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Posted by Hobbs
Nice flames Wangs.


Posted by amawanqa
Thanks Hobbster.

Have a good week ahead, y'all.


Posted by Hobbs
If I never had my X10 and walked into a MTN store today on a impulse buy,I would walk out with one of these.The Milestone gets a minus for the QWERTY keyboard and the HTCHD2 gets a minus for running Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.5 Profession but I would still walk out with one of them never-the-less.Coming down to a winner the HTC would get my vote.That 4.3 inch screen is f-inch gigantic.




Posted by Hobbs
This is whats going to be on the shelves when human eating aliens take over planet Earth.


Posted by Rhino8
So looking at that price tag for whole human, we are rated at about R4000/kg (260 pound sterling)

Posted by Hobbs
lol

Posted by Hobbs
How sweet is this Tsepz.That HD2 screen has really gotten to me and to be able to do this is quite cool.

http://www.xda-developers.com[....]one-more-devices-to-come-soon/

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Hobbs
I still really like the Milestone, something about its design really gets me ,and that HD2 is an absolute monster, seeing phones with displays of over 4inch scares me as i fear i would not be able to go back to my X10
Those guys at XDA are forever porting SW lol, gota love em, they even ported Android2.1 to the originally WM6.1 SE X1.
Talking about XDA, the X10 hackers are nearly done cracking its bootloader

Posted by Hobbs
Tsepz Thats fantastic news regarding cracking the Bootloader.Where on XDA do you find out this stuff? I get lost in there.So much threads going on.Gives me a headache.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Hobbs
Either my eyes are fooling me or the topic was hidden after the announcement of the delay of Eclair, it should be here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=617 it should be there, i was reading through it just a few days ago, they probably hid or temporarily closed it to avoid spam.

Posted by Dups!
Guys, I just realized that I have gone for a week (yes, 7 full days) without making or receiving a call- some sort of a personal record lol.

I guess I can live without a mobile... for a short while
[ This Message was edited by: Dups! on 2010-09-26 18:57 ]


Posted by Mr-s
Somebody with a vodacom freesite besides live.vodafone and m.youtube, pliz pm me

Posted by amawanqa
14MP Android phone on the way, with optical zoom, Xenon flash, and it'll hit Western shores early next year, according to this article:

http://www.gsmarena.com/14mp_[....]n_android_outfit-news-1964.php

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Nice one Dups, did you hear about the BMW car recall? something like 3000 Beemers including the Rolls-Royce Phantom that they build, due to some break booster problem.
Congrats on pic of the day with that fire pic Wanqs

Posted by amawanqa
Thanks Tsepz. I enjoy taking these pics with the P1i when starting the braai fire on most weekends, especially as it's pot luck as to how the flames are going to be captured.
[ This Message was edited by: amawanqa on 2010-10-02 07:43 ]


Posted by amawanqa
P1i pic taken this afternoon:



Have a good week ahead, y'all.

Posted by Dups!
@wanqs

That picure was interesting I must say.

Congratulations on it.

@Tsepz_GP

No I haven't heard or read about my favourite car manufacturer's problems.
To be honest though, I'm not that surprised that they also have recalls. Seems almost everyone has some sort of recalls recently.

My favourite supercar manufacturer (Porsche) suffered the same fate not long ago recalling the butt ugly Panamera for breaks problems.

Something tells me these recalls (from all the affected manufacturers) are 70 percent cost cutting related than mechanical.
[ This Message was edited by: Dups! on 2010-10-04 12:13 ]


Posted by Dups!
By the way guys, I installed Opera 5.01 four days ago on my P1 after I was highly disappointed by version 5 and I must say this new version is a mighty huge improvement, it's almost as if it is a complete overhaul. No slowdowns, only occassional (very minor and negligible) lags here and there.

All I can say is it is truly brilliant now and I'm happy and satisfied.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Wanqs
Ya they seem to require quite a bit of patience and luck lol, i attempted a few with the K850 when i was in CPT last december and they were all a disaster lol, th X10 has made me want to expirament more with the camera, it takes some stunning macro shots, so far they are boring though lol, gona attempt to take more "lively" ones when im on holiday.
Dups
We share the same fav car and supercar manufacturers. That makes sense, they all trying to take shortcuts to cut costs and now its comeback to bite them. Im starting to warm up to the Panamera, there are so many of them around Jhb, pretty sure i spotted atleast 5 last week, seems to be quite an expected success for Porsche, what i REALY hate is their new Cayenne, it looks awful,looks like something built by Lexus at the back and yet it also seems to be popular spotted quitd a lot of them as well, think if i had the cash i'd pick the BMW X5-M over the new Cayenne Turbo and save myself the grief of walking into the garage everyday and realising i blew over 1mill on something that looks like it rolled off Toyota's production line.
Yep, Opera Mini5.01 is awesome, i just hate how it always this tendency to run of memory and make me reload a page, why cant it use the phones RAM instead of its own limited mem? Its a bit frustrating as ill load Engadget, RickyCadden's blog and maybe HowardForums, the phone will have well over 130mb RAM but Opera will run out of its own mem.

Posted by Dups!

On 2010-10-04 15:22:21, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Dups
We share the same fav car and supercar manufacturers. That makes sense, they all trying to take shortcuts to cut costs and now its comeback to bite them. Im starting to warm up to the Panamera, there are so many of them around Jhb, pretty sure i spotted atleast 5 last week, seems to be quite an expected success for Porsche, what i REALY hate is their new Cayenne, it looks awful,looks like something built by Lexus at the back and yet it also seems to be popular spotted quitd a lot of them as well, think if i had the cash i'd pick the BMW X5-M over the new Cayenne Turbo and save myself the grief of walking into the garage everyday and realising i blew over 1mill on something that looks like it rolled off Toyota's production line.
Yep, Opera Mini5.01 is awesome, i just hate how it always this tendency to run of memory and make me reload a page, why cant it use the phones RAM instead of its own limited mem? Its a bit frustrating as ill load Engadget, RickyCadden's blog and maybe HowardForums, the phone will have well over 130mb RAM but Opera will run out of its own mem.



You cracked me up on the Cayenne. I agree, it is the ugliest SUV ever! I don't like the Panamera at all, if it wasn't for the Cayenne I'd rate it as the ugliest Porsche. The car I've warmed up to is the X6- I used to hate the back of this car! It made me think of the infamous Bangle butt. Now, however, I like the car.

I always tell my brother that if I was rich my garages would consist of the following cars: Porsche GT3 RS for
my supercar thrill, 2011 Range Rover (not the Sport/Supercharged) for special occassions, 2011 BMW M5 for irritating the owners of the AUDI A6 RS and Merc E 63 AMG, BMW X6 M just to be brash, Toyota Corrola 1.6 just for petrol saving or maybe that other electric/hybrid Toyota (forgot the name) and lastly the Nissan Navara Double Cab for those days when you need a solid workhorse.

I would add the Bugatti Veryon in there but that would be pushing it too far and proclaiming 'Look at me, I'm super rich!'. The Porsche GT3 RS says that in a nice and subdued manner.

I don't like Ferraris or Lambos, they are just too much in your face for me.

Ditto on Opera's RAM issues, I also hate when I have to reload a page.
[ This Message was edited by: Dups! on 2010-10-04 16:23 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP
Ah yes the ol' Bangle butt took some to get used to but i eventualy loved the styling of the old 7series and 6series, they have such a big presence about them lol.
Lol thought you'd eventualy like it, its one mean looking thing, and that engine *drools*.
That would be one hell of a garage i'd have 4cars: the Porsche 911 GT2 for track days, BMW M3 for everyday, Mini John Cooper Works for those days when i just want to drive like a lunatic, and a BMW X6-M for the days where i want to just be a manice to anyone in my way, my X6-M would be black, with black rims, tinted windows and numberplate: TRY ME-GP.
Yah, the Ferraris and Lambos are way too flashy, they look great but meh...Although i do have a lil thing for front engined Ferraris, it all started with that gorgeous 550 Maranello, then the 612 Scaglietti and now the California, they are just so beautiful yet not too in-your-face.
Oh yah,that 2011 Range Rover you mentioned in your list is a stunner, amazing how they've kept that design looking good amongst all these curvy newbies, i wish the Q7 would vanish off this planet...

Posted by Dups!
A black X6 M with black rims and tinted windows sounds menacing already. Adding the TRY ME GP is enough to scare any challenge. There's a lady around my area driving a white X6 with black rims and it looks stunning. I've never liked a white but a white X6 M with black rims and tinted windows would be my ideal SAV or SUV if you prefer.

The Scaglietti is the pick of the bunch for me in the Ferraris you mentioned. That is a beauty.

By the way, I read a comparison among the following cars Mercedes SLS AMG, Ferrari 458, Porsche 911 Turbo S, Aston Martin and the Audi R8 on Car and Driver. I won't spoil the fun for you by revealing the results but if you have time go read it. There is also the upcoming BMW 6 in there and it looks unbelievable. The new BMW design language is to my liking. I'm also loving the BMW Grand Coupe Concept that is also to be put into production next year.



Posted by Tsepz_GP
I will definetly keep an eye out for that mag! Im pretty sure the Porsche owned them all in terms of handling lol, hope im right
That reminds me, Top Gear did a shoot-out between the Merc S65 AMG and the new BMW 760Li, lets just say "Joy" owned cant remember much as i saw like a month ago, but that nem 760 is a beast.
Loving that Grand Coupe to, looking forward to the new 6, i wish they would make an M-Division of the 5series GT lol, its one nasty looking thing but with a good body kit, 4exhaust pipes at the back coupled with that 4L twin-turbo V8 from the X6, it would be one sweet station wagon lol.

Posted by Dups!
My bad, the 'Car and Driver' is the web version.

If there is one area I will hand to Merc is in the S-class, they are giving BMW a run for their money and often come out tops in pure luxury.

I also think the GT is ugly but a well made car.

I like the Alpina tuned 7s, they are monsters. The 2011 BMW B7 completely trashes the S65 AMG. I wonder why the M division don't make an M7 since they broke their own rule of not making an M version of the SAV/SUVs with the X6 M and X5 M.

Posted by amawanqa
Firefox cometh to Android:

http://www.gsmarena.com/mozil[....]nd_maemo_devices-news-1984.php

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Dups!
Yah gee Alpina make some beasts, what will ALWAYS stun me without a doubt is Brabus, just when you think AMG have gone bonkers and put ridiculous amounts of power in a Merc, Brabus take it even further, i cant even begin to imagine what they could possibly do to the SLS lol.
Maybe the M division dont want to take that classy look the 7series has, i wish they would make a M7 to, throw in twin turbos in that 6.0l V12, and a mean body kit.
Was at the tiny Engen petrol garage along Main RD yesterday when i had heard one loud roaring engine, looked at the rear-view and what seems to be the previous M5 is actualy a heavily modded 540i, you should have heard this thing,it sounded like some American Muscle car, and it was being driven by this lil blonde woman, all of us were just like and when she pulled out she revved it up and pulled off with a bit of wheel spin, it was absolutely jaw dropping lol, it just had the M5 bodykit and thick Pirellis,didnt look like it was that modified until you hear that engine.
Wanqs
Eish, got to wait a month before us X10 users can have it, no thanks to SE delaying that update cant wait to try it out, as Opera Mini is starting to annoy me a little.


Posted by Dups!
Brabus are scary tuners and I mean that literally. Those guys can kill you with their tuning. They remind me of Merc's Black series AMG cars- absolutely absurd! As long as Brabus and AMG don't strike a balance between pure power and finesse I will not be impressed. I'll take Audi anytime over Merc if I had to exclude BMW.

Yeah, some women drive 'manly' cars, I am actually wondering what was done to that 5 series' engine she drove.

Hmmm... 6l, V12 on the M7 sounds like something I would buy, if I had over a mil sitting around

Watching Ignition and saw the upcoming 6 and I still think it is a beauty. Also saw the old BMW 3.0 CSL, I think it was a late 70's model and it looked so hot in that retro look, if it was a woman it would be Beyonce, Halle Berry, Naomi Campbell all rolled into one. Loved it!

Posted by amawanqa
@ gola:
Congrats on getting Photo of the Day, boet.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Exclude BMW? Take Audi? dont say such things Dups im gona have nightmares lol, i must say Audi have got me with the S3, i simply love it, one of my classmates had a white one before he failed 1st semester never got a ride in it but just hearing it was good enough, and that R8 V12
Will try catch Ignition tomorrow, was studying most of today and when i did take a break to watch tv i only caught Auto Mundial, so JUST missed it. Beyonce, Halle and Naomi in one? Im drooling at the thought, it must have some sweet wheels cause Naomi's legs are like WOW 8D:.
Nice one Gola! dude, cant wait for Kanye's new album.

Posted by gola
Hi guys hope everyone is good

Wanqs, Tsepz, thanks Got a lil help from photoshop, been playing around with it lately...

Tsepz, Can't wait either, he changed the album title to "My dark twisted fantasy", weird...
Right now I'm enjoying Weezy's "I'm not a human being" mix tape, great stuff there.
Did you have a look at Drake's "Better than good enough" mtv documentary, this guy is legendary...

Posted by Tsepz_GP
lol Gola, yeah that "I'm Not a human being" track itself is pretty cool to, ive only got Track6 and 15 from that album, gona get more when im not lazy lol. Nah, havent seen that doc yet hey. I saw Lil Wayne's "MTV behind the music" doc though, dude drinks cough mixture out of a cup cause he's addicted to it pretty messed up, i'll look out for Drake's one though for sure.
All
Got use a iPhone4 today as one of my aunts got herself one. Its one gorgeous thing in real life, and it looks and feels so classy due to the glass and metal combo, had my X10 and the 3GS side by side with it. The "Retina Display" is simply magnificent, not that much better than the X10's display though, but lots better than the 3GS display. The camera is so fast and smooth and takes some great pics, the camera UI of my X10 felt so sluggish compared to the iP4's. its just amazing how Apple manage to get the software and hardware to work so well together as it makes the whole experience wonderful. What i didnt like was the lack of "palm friendliness" the sharp edges and weight of the iPhone4 make it quite difficult to hold for long periods of time especially if you do a lot of web browsing and texting, 3GS feels alot better in hand. Overall though a sweet device, i prefer my X10, but i wouldn't mind a iP4 at all.
Here some pics:

Taken by X10:

Taken by 3GS:

Taken by iPhone4:





Posted by Dups!
@Tsepz_GP

Nah, I'm BMW and Porsche for life. Unless the guys at BMW lose their marbles, which won't happen, and drive the brand to ground then Audi would be my second choice.

Well, the honeymoon phase with Opera 5.01 is over and it is irritating me too often. I keep reloading pages so much and at time there is an equally irritating lag that it is driving me nuts

To think that I uninstalled Bolt cause I found it unusable after trying this new Opera. I'm considering re-installing Bolt again or maybe use Opera mobile that I last used ages ago.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Yep, indeed Dups,Opera Mini realy can be frustrating to use, i hoped the Android version would be better but no, neither is the iOS nor the WM versions, all share the same annoying issues.
Lately it has stopped loading topics in HowardForums for me, if i do HTTP it doesnt load the topics, set it to Socket and it will load them for a second then give me this white page with "OOPS!" written at the top, it does this with a few other pages to, on both X10 and 5800.
Bolt must be the best 3rd party browser ive ever come across, i cant wait til theres an Android version, its UI sux but it loads pages so well and is so stable.
I swear, everytime Opera make a new version it gets worse, i miss good ol' 3.1.2.
Is Opera Mobile10 available for UIQ Dups? I think Mobile is better but it can be slow and is such a resource hog, my 5800 never like OM10, would use it for like 15mins and would already be fed up lol.

Posted by Dups!
Absolutely Tsepz_GP, Opera is getting worse with each new version. I also miss the old versions that were more stable and better at usability.

No, Opera mobile 10 was never released for UIQ, I installed the 9.5 when it was released back then and hardly ever used it. I found it to be somewhat slower and too much of a resource hog but right now I'd rather have a browser that works properly even if it means it will be slower than the Mini.

I agree on Bolt having one ugly UI but I'm going to reinstall it again and see if I can get used to it or maybe alternate between it and Opera Mobile.

Posted by Hobbs
http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/8[....]p-ten-phones-in-the-uk-october

Not bad hey Tsepz.The X10 comes in at no 6.That beautiful iPhone 4 takes no 1.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Dups!
I'd also recommend UCWeb, thats what i use when im sick of OM and its crap, you can get it here: wap.ucweb.com ,it does Fit-to-screen browsing pretty well, what i suggest though is if it seems slow you must erase the Proxy and port numbers in the access point you use.
Hobbs
It realy isn't bad at all, considering its price, SE's rep which was almost completely ruined last year with the Satio's early FW, the X2 being a flop, X10 running 1.6 etc... Im suprised it even managed to make the top10, it makes you realise the high contrast between what we "the geeks" and "the average user" think, most wont even care about the OS version is, and if you forget about the OS version you realise the X10 is up there with the best of them.

Posted by Dups!

On 2010-10-13 21:00:59, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Dups!
I'd also recommend UCWeb, thats what i use when im sick of OM and its crap, you can get it here: wap.ucweb.com ,it does Fit-to-screen browsing pretty well, what i suggest though is if it seems slow you must erase the Proxy and port numbers in the access point you use.




Just tried UcWeb and I honestly don't know what to think. I am adjusting to Opera mobile which is actaually not bad if you overlook its slowness.

Oh, what's up with all the spelling mistakes on UcWeb? One thing about is it is relatively fast.

Posted by gola
Tsepz
Lol, I didn't know there were 16 tracks, I only have the first 10. Kewl track there.
Nah, haven't seen the weezy one, but I heard about his syrup addiction, lol, wonder how he is doing in jail...
Sweet IP4 pics there, as much as I don't like the Iphones, the Samsungs, the Motorolas and the Blackberries, I'd still like to poke the IP4 about...

Posted by Dups!
@Tsepz_GP

I'm having trouble with Bolt, since you've used it for quite a while I hope you can help. I re-installed it again and it is working fine except for one thing, it doesn't switch to mobile view. I select the option and it accepts but it just doesn't switch to mobile view on my P1i. Do you have any ideas? Thanks.



Posted by Tsepz_GP
Gola
Thanx bro, yeah, same here, too bad about the antenna issues though.
Dups
Im not too sure, when you finish setting it up do you click Save? If so then i suggest clearing the Cache and History, and restart the app. Which version are you using? Java?
All
Had a close call, im at my dad's for the weekend, i was playing with my 3yrld baby sis, shes at that point where they press every button and throw anything and everything, my poor X10 became a victim of her sudden craze, i was setting up the wii so she can leave me alone, like an idiot i left my phone sitting alone on the table, she went straight for it, it was like a horror movie, she picked it up and with all her might threw my X10 against the wall, i swear i died the moment i saw it hit the wall battery cover flew off, at 1st i was too scared to pick it up, fearing the worst, had this image of that beautiful screen cracked, i then picked it up to see what might have broken, luckily the screen was fine, it seems that it hit the wall with its back, and because of that the metal/chrome rim has snapped on the top right at the back, its hardly noticeable, but i can see the part of it, where it curves has risen a bit, and with a crack in the middle, but like i said, hardly noticeable, good to know its a well built phone, but wow, that has realy tought me to be more careful, nothing would be worse than a phone breaking due to negligence just a few months after getting it.

Posted by Dups!
Sorry about your X10, at least it is still functioning and the damage wasn't that extensive. I have a niece who's over a year old and I know exactly how these little ones are. I never left my phone near my daughter when she was still a baby either.

Tried your suggestion on the browser and nothing changed. Yes, I am using the Java version. I am currently using UCWeb and am starting to like it. The bloody Opera 5.01 decided it didn't want to load any pages instead telling me to check my network settings. It's the second time it does this.



Posted by Tsepz_GP
Dups
Ya i think im going to keep it in my pocket whenever im not charging or using it, im hardly ever near little kids so its quite an adjustment when i come here, you realise you simply cant leave things lying around at all, lol.

Im glad you're starting to like UCWeb, its a good browser, still rough around the edges but its getting there slowly. Its made by some Chinese guys, who always make the Chinese version 1st then translate it (not always so well) to English.
Im going to have to wait until im at home (tomorrow) to try the java version on the 5800, and then i'll let you know what could be wrong, it should be showing pages in Mobile, Mobile view in UCWeb is named Adaptive mode/or view, so just make sure its set to that, unless they changed its name to Mobile?
Yep, i get the same annoying message with Opera Mini, it will do it even if the signal and connection are fine sometimes, restarting is the only way i found to get around that.

Posted by Dups!
Thanks, I'd appreciate that.

I think, however, we've got our lines crossed or I didn't quite explain myself clearly, the UCWeb browser is 100 percent okay but Bolt isn't. Bolt is the one that doesn't allow me mobile view.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
woah, how on earth did i read that as ucweb? Sorry about that Dups, lol. I found the same issue in Bolt, what i did notice is that when set to Mobile it doesnt display website ads, and thats about it, so i guess it simply loads less data in the same view when set to Mobile.

Posted by Dups!
It's okay Tsepz, I suppose I'll have to get used to the way Bolt handles sites.

So, what are you all thinking of 8ta from Telkom?

Personally, I think more competition is good. I think they have great pre-paid call and sms rates. Their data rates are competitve but on lower priced bundles whereas on higher ones they lag slightly behind the Voadcom and MTN.

I'm looking to see what their post-paid rates are like. I have a feeling they will deliver extremely competitive rates. Four mobile networks are the maximum IMO, South Africa's market is a little saturated and 8ta will have to work very hard to try and catch up to Cell C.

I also like their name, something completely unique and South African in the mobile arena. Good luck to them as a new entrant in a tough market.

Posted by amawanqa
Nice to see (re)building on another successful quarter:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]s_drive_sales_up-news-2001.php

@ Hobbster and Tsepz:

Looking forward to some Eclairs?:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]_with_720p_video-news-2003.php

Posted by Hobbs
You better believe it Wangs.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Dups
I havent read much about 8ta yet, it is great to have another competitor though, so we now have 5 networks dont we? Or did Virgin eventualy pull out? Havent seen much of them lately, im going to check 8ta out for sure though. Our networks realy have to get with the times, Vodacom i see were offering the X10mini with 30mb free data, i was like WTF? Do they even have a clue of how much data an Android can go through in a month? I feel sorry for many people here who are pushed to get a Desire, Galaxy-S or X10, who havent a clue about Android as they are in for a suprise in terms of data use when they get their monthly bill as these phones dont come with data bundles in contract unlike in the US or UK, yet they chow data like there's no tomorrow, our networks realy need to jack up.
Wanqs
Oh yeah

Posted by Dups!
You're so right Tsepz!

We are being ripped off at every turn! I was hoping since Vodafone is now the major shareholder in Vodacom they would bring us closer to the UK with much better rates.

Virgin is still around but I don't regard them as a real mobile network. They are too much of a virtual one to be taken seriously.

I'm really hoping 8ta shakes up the post-paid market so that we could benefit from Vodacom. I know quite a few people who hate Telkom because of the issues they've had with them but I'm waiting to see what they have to offer with 8ta. If they have good post-paid rates then one of my contracts goes to them.

I love Vodacom mainly for its wonderful coverage but if 8ta offers me something great then they will lose one of my contracts that's for sure.
[ This Message was edited by: Dups! on 2010-10-18 10:30 ]


Posted by gola
lol, so Is virgin still around in SA? It didn't quite materialise...
I'm hating Vodacom so much right now, I'd load airtime and receive a message from them saying I can call for free after midnight. So I did that and my airtime still finished, on top of that, it was about "90%" off call discount...

Tsepz
Hard luck bro, but then again, you screen is not cracked so it's all good.
[ This Message was edited by: gola on 2010-10-18 15:31 ]



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