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Posted by WirelessMonkey
@ Tahir Ally

Here's the best route to getting Sony Ericsson settings -

1. on a Sony Ericsson cellphone (K700i and on) go to Internet Services
2. Click and scroll to Settings
3. Click and follow the simple procedure to establish the settings that you need

- this services covers all GRPS, CSD and MMS settings for all networks and SPs. You can set up any phone irrespective of the network you're on and sending to. Sony Ericsson will dispatch the settings to your cellphone in seconds - faster and more reliable than the networks deliver. 99% of the time it worked for me.

If you need the settings, just ask a buddy on a Sony Ericsson to send it - off WAP of the internet, or get hold of me and I'll send it to you. (Internet service does not work on Apple Safari).

Internet -

Support >> Set up...


Posted by brix25
Inspired by the Monkey Man(and by jealousy of his brilliant new toys) I thought I'd post some of my favourite pictures from my now dated but still reliable precious aka K700i...the one was taken this afternoon on my way into work when I was caught by a freak rain storm.


This picture of a child and his father was taken outside the Beaufort West Magistrate's Court while I was on assignment in the town following disgraced ANC politician Truman Prince.


And this pic was taken just a couple of days later while in Porterville on a road trip with a couple of friends through the countryside.


Posted by Tahir Ally
I am aware that you can get MMS GPRS settings from manufactures and via *111# for Vodacom.But its frustrating at times when the store is busy and a customer ask us to do it for them.

Posted by Tahir Ally
Cell C will be lauching 3G this year.The best thing is they will be using Vodacom 3G network for coverage.It will give them the upper hand against MTN because Vodacom has better 3G coverage than MTN..........On its way in SOON.......Vodacom will be giving away desktops/laptops on 3G contracts

Posted by brix25
@Tahir: It's good to credit the sources of your information....Business Times.

Posted by Tahir Ally
This week is Nokia 6680 week.I will be receiving stock this week.I can see some smiles on friends and customers.They waited so long for this phone............Busy week ahead.

Posted by WirelessMonkey
Dear dear dear... supporters of Vodacom... "Vodacom has better 3G coverage than MTN" - please be extremely careful about making such clearly unfounded and unsubstantiated remarks. There is no proof yet as to who is better. While I've been experiencing some problems with respect to both, at various locations either could be better, or non-existent. Yes, Vodacom have had their 3G commercially available for a longer period than MTN, but MTN have been testing their network for a longer period than Vodacom, and they've deployed EDGE which gives users a much faster fallback when there is no 3G coverage. EDGE already covers all major centers. MTN's data has historically been better largely because of Vodacom's multi-vendor network. Vodacom failed to even perform soft GPRS hand-overs, and hence why they've rushed their 3G rollout. It replaces a platform that never worked - PERIOD! NOw they want to deliver HSPDA... when? Before the end of the year? Well earlier I recall April 2005 as the date, which has passed, and now they plan to launch it before EU and Japan... hmmm me finds this very difficult to comprehend. And guys... before you get too excited about 2-14.4meganits/sec on Vodacom.... there are still now devices available that support these speeds and there won't be until early 2006. So, coming back to me earlier statement... On data I always back MTN. Those techs usually know what's happening, while Vodacom does deliver much much better customer service.

Posted by mario2002
@Tahir For how much do you intend to sell the 6680?Have you check the eBay prices +import tax and UPS postage fees ? I bet you are more expensive. ;-) Greetings from Jeffreys.

Posted by amawanqa
What do you guys think of the 7 new Nokias? Some interesting looking sliders, but with a strong pseudo-SE flavour re the one side looking very much like a digital camera, on some of them.
Imitation is indeed the sincerest form of flattery, Nokia...


Posted by WirelessMonkey
Nokia 6280: Bringing video sharing and video calls to life
Nokia 6270: Quadband slide phone offers music and megapixels
Nokia 6111: Sophisticated GSM slide phone
Nokia 6060: Familiar technologies, folding design
Nokia 6265: A winning combination of technology and design
Nokia 2255: Compact fold at a compact price
Nokia 2125: Classic style for the entry category
Nokia 6270: Quadband slide phone offers music and megapixels

The versatile Nokia 6270 slide phone features a 2-megapixel camera with flash and landscape mode. With a modern and refined design, the Nokia 6270 merges state of the art photography capabilities and user-friendliness into an enjoyable imaging experience for consumers.
The spacious QVGA, 262,144 color display (320x240 pixels) of the Nokia 6270 helps to manage daily life while a broad set of messaging capabilities enables consumers to easily keep in touch with others. Mobile email is conveniently at hand as the Nokia 6270 phone comes with an integrated email client that supports attachments.

In addition, the Nokia 6270's built-in music player supports a variety of digital sound formats such as MP3 and AAC, making music-on-the-go easily accessible. With stereo speakers supporting 3D sound effects, the Nokia 6270 provides a brilliant sound experience that can be shared with others. A visual radio client rounds out the audio capabilities of the Nokia 6270 phone. A world travel-friendly quadband GSM 850/900/1800/1900 handset, the Nokia 6270 has an estimated retail price of 300 EUR before subsidies or taxes. The Nokia 6270 is expected to begin shipping in the fourth quarter of 2005.

SONY ERICSSON NEW PHONES:
S600i (Ellen)

Triband GSM 900/1800/1900
Exchangeable covers and 3 main body colors (Universal Blue, Orchid White, Radiant Yellow)
TFT 1,8? 176x220 pixel 262k color screen
1.3 megapixel camera with 4x digital zoom and flashlight
Full screen video recording and viewing
Bluetooth
Infrared
USB
MP3/AAC Player
2 integrated stereo speakers with MegaBass and StereoWidening
Stereo headphones included
Radio FM with RDS
40-tone polyphonic ringtones
64mb internal memory
Java MIDP 2.0 and 3D games
OMA DRM phase 1
Preinstalled games: Worms Fronts, Ander Siege 3D, Extreme Air Snowboarding and Midway’s Gauntlet Multiplayer
Access Netfront HTML browser
GPRS class 10
Release date: Q3 2005
Price: 325€



Z520i (Zoe)

Small size clamshell
Quadband GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Excahgeable covers
TFD 1,8? 128x160 65k color internal screen
STN 1? 101x80 4k color external screen
0.3 (VGA) megapixel camera with 4x digital zoom that can be used with phone closed
Bluetooth
Infrared
USB
Integrated handsfree speaker
Included stereo headphones
40-tone polyphonic ringtones
8 external led effects
MP3/ACC player
16mb internal memory
Java MIDP 2.0 and 3D games
OMA DRM phase 1
Release date: Q3 2005
Price: 225€

K608i

Dual UMTS/GSM triband 900/1800/1900
TFT 1,8? 176x220 pixel 262k color screen
1.3 megapixel camera with 4x digital zoom and flashlight
Full screen video recording and viewing
Videocall
Bluetooth
Infrared
USB
MP3/AAC Player
Radio FM with RDS
72-tone polyphonic ringtones
32mb internal memory
Java MIDP 2.0 and 3D games
Macromedia Flash Lite
GPRS class 10
Release date: Q3 2005
Price: 400€

J210i

GSM triband 900/1800/1900
STN 128x128 pixel 65k color screen
Infrared
32-tone polyphonic ringtones
600kb internal memory
Mophun games
OMA DRM phase 1
GPRS 4+1
Release date: Q3 2005
Price: 95€

**K608i**
Dual UMTS/GSM triband 900/1800/1900
TFT 1.8" 176x220 pixel 262k color screen
1.3 megapixel camera with 4x digital zoom and flashlight
Full screen video recording and viewing
Videocall
Bluetooth
Infrared
USB
MP3/AAC Player
Radio FM with RDS
72-tone polyphonic ringtones
32mb internal memory
Java MIDP 2.0 and 3D games
Macromedia Flash Lite
GPRS class 10
Release date: Q3 2005
Price: 400



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Posted by zani_003
I reckon wit da launch of these new phones we wil c a drop in da prices of other SE mobiles! Sounds gud to me ! :-) though i wish they wud bring back the T-series ! I luvd it !

Posted by brix25
Finally got to play with the K600i and the K750 courtesy of my friend the Monkey Man.Was honestly suprised by both models. Especially their displays...all the features I've gotten used to in my precious is still there but with a much better camera and expandable memory(K750). The design of the keypad on the K600 is something to get used to as it's flush with the surface...texting with greasy fingers might prove tricky.

Posted by zani_003
U lucky m8! Wud luv to get my paws on both models! Coz they r super duper!

Posted by brix25
Quote:

On 2005-06-13 22:09:03, bradboy wrote:
U lucky m8! Wud luv to get my paws on both models! Coz they r super duper!



This message was posted from a F500



The K600 takes the candybar shape a bit over the top... It's too square for my liking. The K750 on the other hand fits snug into the hand and means business as it comes loaded with features...found the new activity button above the joystick weird...then again I had the phone for 5 minutes before the WirelessMonkey removed them.

Posted by WirelessMonkey
@ Brix... please don't be upset about me removing the phones. I'll arrange a V800 - this the one you should play with.

1. Brix with the new K600i hard at work last night.



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Posted by brix25
@WM... All is forgiven.

Posted by zani_003
lol man atleast u got 2 play wit them. if only SE wud make another k750i but this tym 3G capable! u rite the k600i takes da candy bar form over da top but i stil lyk it

Posted by WirelessMonkey
Dudes... if there is anyone else in the immediate city area of Cape Town who'd also like to play with the phones albeit for a few minutes, please get a hold of me.

Posted by zani_003
sh*t! now i wish i lived in cape town ! monkeyman do u work 4 se or sumthing ?:-)

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Posted by brix25
Have to say nice pics.

Posted by Mohil
I just received my 6680 now. It's currently on charge.

Posted by CodeMaster
@ Mohil, how about a mini-review when it's done

What site do you guys use to test GPRS? Preferable looking for a WAP site locally, not international.
Thanx

Posted by WirelessMonkey
@ bradboy

Nope... I work for an agency to a network - I'd of course not be disclosing my exact position but suffice to say I get to talk a lot of crap about cellphones to millions of South Africans... monthly. Brix... I'm trying to tune the boys to fit you out. Stay tuned bro

Posted by Rhino8
I may get to play wiv a vodafone v800i later on. Not too optimistic bout the operating system..... Am kinda wiv brix on that, but be sure a full review on the phone will follow soon. Cant wait.




Posted by WirelessMonkey
&zoneOkay here's one for the lonely Akon players -



http://www.sonyericsson.com/s[....]1_1_1&zone=pp&lm=pp1&pid=10296
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Posted by brix25
Ok, have to publicly thank the Monkey Man for organising the V800...if there's one phone that would make me cross the line over to the darkside it would have to be the 6680... Ah...think I'll save up some pennies for it...maybe a good Christmas present for myself.


Posted by WirelessMonkey
Okay boys... here are some more did you geweet:

Sub-Saharan Africa
Hitherto, the region’s sales have been heavily focused on South Africa, but demand in Nigeria and Kenya is developing. Nokia believes that the market will grow by 40% in volume terms after a 47% expansion in FY-04E, but sees market value growth at just 26% after 31% as pricing pressure remains strong particularly in the growing entry level segment. However, despite Nokia having an over 55% market share in the subregion, with a market volume of just 14m units expected in FY-05 (just 2% of the world total), the region remains a prospect for growth rather than a major driver. (Source - Nokia Nov. 8th 2004)

Ever wonder what those cellphone brand tech terminology means?:

NEW - Different color from previous design.
ALL NEW - Parts are not interchangeable with previous design.
FOOLPROOF OPERATION - No provision for adjustments.
ADVANCED DESIGN - The network doesn't understand it.
REDESIGNED - Previous flaws fixed - we hope.
YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT - We finally got one to work.
MAINTENANCE FREE - Impossible to fix.
MEETS ALL STANDARDS - Ours, not yours.
SOLID-STATE - Heavy as hell.
CUTTING-EDGE - incompatible with everything else.
INNOVATIVE - still serves no purpose.
WORLD FIRST - standby for 101 software patches.

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Posted by zani_003
@brix : oh no dont cross over to do dark side! im sure SE wil cum up wit somethin equally gud too or even better

Posted by brix25
@bradboy: Thing is SE is not releasing a EDGE/3G phone anytime soon...and the 6680 is a smartphone...talking of smartphones, my colleague had a trojan virus sent to her the other day through an MMS which in turn sent out SMS's to various people in her phone book with links to porn sites...BTW she's using a 6600...that's one thing about the Series 60 platform that has me in doubt.

Posted by WirelessMonkey
@ Brix

Tell here to hose it off with some Doom or Target and then to switch it back on. If it still keeps sending out links to porn sites - ask her to add me to her phone book as well

Seriously - f-secure offers a free anti-virus for all Series 60 cellphone users. Pity there wasn't a need to develop one for Sony Ericsson - I'd have loved to have seen how it works... ha ha

Posted by brix25
@WirelessMonkey...Fatima is totally clueless about the inner workings of her phone, like most South Africans she got the phone as an upgrade and never bothered researching it's capabilities. Check the story tommorrow in the Cape Times about viruses, affecting Series 60 phones.

Here's a panoramic picture of the office...just before 9pm...I guess I'm bored


Posted by WirelessMonkey
@ Brix... then the Doom should work just fine

Posted by Rhino8
I have given this alot of thought, and the nokia 6680 seems to be my new phone. I need a symbian 3G and it does not look like sony will launch one soon.

Posted by brix25
Last night I was castigated for even mentioning my desire for the 6680. But it's a good phone feature-wise, perhaps the only drawback is the 1,3mp camera.

Posted by mario2002
@Brix Please buddy ,give me more info about the S60 virus :-) I am collecting all viruses ever written for the S60 (there are only 4 + their derivations) I am a programing c++ and enjoy fooling around with this 'viruses'.Do you need a memory card or can I install it directly to the internal memory ? Please email it to gomario@bluebottle.com Thanks buddy :-)

Posted by brix25
@mario: Unfortunately can't help you there mate... She's told us about the virus but more than that I don't know... Wirelessmonkey should know more about it has he's always playing around with phones. Thank God I own an SE:-)

Posted by mario2002
Brix not buying a particular cellphone because you are afraid of getting a virus is like not buying a cabriole because you are afraid the lightning may strike you while driving on a sunny day :-) the problem with the cellphones and viruses is the way how/where the operating system is stored.Mind you ,nokia will bring a hard drive cellphone in a few months.;-)

Posted by brix25
It's the same reason why some people prefer Macs over PC's...it's matter of choice. Right now at this moment, S60 is more susceptible to attacks than any other platform. All of that said I still want the 6680.

Posted by mario2002
Oh buddy you've got it a bit 'wrong'. To catch a s60'virus', it means you must actively want to install and start it.Also you can delete it whenever you want in a two step process without any antivirus program althou you get at least three of them too. I had two viruses on my cell just to impress my buddies but had to remove them to free some memory :-(

Posted by WirelessMonkey
Unfortunately the last Nokia I had was a 3650 - the one with the round dial pad. Loved it. That was before the virus era when I was still one of the lone voices predicting the arrival of these menaces. Since then I've only used Sony Ericsson and the one Moto V3 (snazzy little toy). So, as you may deduce that I've been relatively immune from receiving these babies. I've tried the Symantec AV for PDAs - there again this only applies to MS Windows for Mobiles Edition and not Palm or other OS. Dudes - the solution is simple - avoid devices that attract nasties. Hence, when I went shopping for a laptop my choice was very simply to go with Apple. Apple's don't even need AV as Apple themselves protect their OS with a built-in firewall and frequent security updates. I do pity the Finns, I like their phones to, I do openly confess, as they are popular and popularity does equate with compatibility and app availability.

Posted by bdcol
Does anyone know if its possible to setup a P910i to access the Vodafone live portal? Or do I need a Vodafone branded phone like the Vodacom site says?

Posted by WirelessMonkey
@ bdcol

Again - Vodafone live! is designed to only be accessed from a live! cellphone. The reason is, amongst other, easier one-click functionality that is integrated with a wide variety of online services. Don't go messing with hacks either - it'll just make life more complicated for other users.

Posted by WirelessMonkey
Here is a better representation of the Vodacom results. Again note the small data revenue slice - 4.7%



Posted by brix25
@WirelessMonkey: I thought the idea would be to increase their data revenues in the future.

Posted by WirelessMonkey
@ Brix

Okay here's the expert opinion on why data in the South African context is important:
With fewer new subscribers to sign up, and voice ARPU (avergae rev per user) falling, operators now have two main goals relating to their subscriber bases:
– Drive revenue growth through increasing adoption and usage of data services
– Reduce churn and increase subscriber acquisition by differentiating the service offerings (but not on cost)

Churn is high in South Africa - prepaid is down but still high with both MTN and Vodacom reporting 2005 churn at above 30% (down from just under 50% last year). Amongst contract this is much lower (under 10%). So, the idea I guess is to get people to log on and settle in. Data users are less likely to move across to other networks than pure voice users.

Mobile Data is Critical For:
– Service Differentiation
– Brand Enhancement
– Customer Segmentation
– Customer Retention
– Market Share Gains
– ARPU Preservation (at least) and Uplift (at best)
– Improved Bottom Line

On another note:

A sunny day in Cape Town... captured with the K750i panorama function that's kick ass - instead of reducing a single shot by cropping it to look panoramic, the K750 actually takes three individual shots: first shot is stored.. a grayed overlap of the end of the previous shot covers part of your next picture so that you can join it, and the same with a third shot. The camera then joins these three pictures into a high resolution panorama picture... okay so my overlapping isn't that great




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Posted by brix25
Quote:

the K750 actually takes three individual shots: first shot is stored.. a grayed overlap of the end of the previous shot covers part of your next picture so that you can join it, and the same with a third shot. The camera then joins these three pictures into a high resolution panorama picture



The same as with the K700, just an overall improvement in the quality of the pictures...BTW have you tried developing any of the pics?

Posted by OluYom
Quote:

On 2005-06-15 20:16:26, WirelessMonkey wrote:
Ever wonder what those cellphone brand tech terminology means?:

NEW - Different color from previous design.
ALL NEW - Parts are not interchangeable with previous design.
FOOLPROOF OPERATION - No provision for adjustments.
ADVANCED DESIGN - The network doesn't understand it.
REDESIGNED - Previous flaws fixed - we hope.
YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT - We finally got one to work.
MAINTENANCE FREE - Impossible to fix.
MEETS ALL STANDARDS - Ours, not yours.
SOLID-STATE - Heavy as hell.
CUTTING-EDGE - incompatible with everything else.
INNOVATIVE - still serves no purpose.
WORLD FIRST - standby for 101 software patches.

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Sorry to break in this way guys, but @Wireless Monkey: Can I have permission to use the above post of yours on my site? I love it!!

And yes, I do agree that subscribers who use data tend to settle down and stay with one network over time than those just limiting their usage to voice.

The South African market is clearly more advanced than ours, but we are beginning to witness a surge in demand for data in Nigeria as well.

Posted by brix25
@AYA: I think you can use it as long as you credit it. Any word on MTN-Nigeria have launched GPRS.

Posted by WirelessMonkey
@ AYA

If it's said in public then it shared to all. You have my permission. As for the comment on data - DUDES I JUST WATCHED A MOVIE ON DSTV ON MY SE K600i OVER MTN 3G!!! Yeppppppeeee!!! *jumping for join*

Oh yeah... too all my webbed peeps from SA on Esato... dudes wait and see what MTN delivers before jumping the 3G train to join. I think that MTN may just deliver a kick ass package after experiencing their DSTV feed. Also, I noticed that eXactmobile also delivers 3G content. No news service but there is full track music.
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Posted by brix25
@monkeyman: Think MTN and Multichoice have a common shareholder namely Johnnic. Good to hear about your experience with 3G'el lo.


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