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Posted by HOBBS
Animator works fine on the P990i except for one really important function.Accessing the Menu Screen.It doesnt exist.So got a tip from Ipmart on how to work around the problem.When you finished your animation and want to save it,press down the jog-dial and close the flip at the same time.At first you'll think nothing has happened but after about 5 second Animator appears back on your screen with a MORE button on the bottom right hand side of the screen where you access the menu and 'save as' ect. Pain in the ass if you ask me. (how do these people figure out these things.Its quite amazing)


Posted by HOBBS
Wangs head on over to uiqblog.com and download the G700 and G900 theme packs (4themes in each that were extracted from those two handsets) Ive just installed them and they nice,clean and simple.I like

Posted by amawanqa
Shot for that, Hobbster.

I see Linkboy has also been updated. (version 1.50)

Seriously thinking of getting the G900 towards the end of the year. Prefer the look of the P1i, though.



Posted by Kryptik
Hey, damn nice telescopic pic, Wanqa! Just what i needed after the day i've had Eish, Mondays hey...

Posted by amawanqa
Thanks, boet.
Ja nee, Mondays...

Apart from the ice on everything this morning, it was yet another bril, cloudless day here.

(Another) sunset P1i pic:



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[ This Message was edited by: amawanqa on 2008-02-18 18:54 ]

Posted by JC08
@ Krypts shame bro, but hopefully things only get better from here...
@ ama, man I like the g900 coz of the multiple input choices, but it would have been great if it was a walkman version!

Posted by Kryptik
So my sis and swaer arrived in London on Friday. They'll be there for two weeks initially, sorting themselves out. They've taken up residency in one of the company's flats close to swaer's office, and are spending some time sightseeing. Had to laugh when she told me about the flat having heaters all over the place, even in the loo! I just can't picture that kinda weather...

Posted by amawanqa
@ JC,
Yeah, a Walkman version of the G900 would be cool indeed, particularly with those specs.
Honestly, it's got pretty much the specs that I'm after, just a pity it doesn't come armed with HSDPA. But I could happily live without it at this stage.
I'm very keen to see what touch-screen offerings The Dark Side comes up with later this year too...

@ Kryptik,
Tell 'em that those heaters are referred to as radiators.
They work so lekker. Yup, there's one in our bathroom too an' all. You can literally walk around the house kaal in Winter and not freeze the proverbials off, if one has got efficient central heating switched on.

Posted by GUCCI.011
Dam it mid-term is over,back to the traffic and school tomorrow! ah wel. . .
@ JC and Wanqa
Yah the G900 is a beaut.
@ all
Im not sure if i still want to upgrade this year, keep thinking what more do i need my N81 has everything i want jus gota get a 4GB or 8GB mem card for it and the new handsets announced aren't that different except N96 with the DVB-H and 16GB and it has also proven that a GPU is not necessary. Think i must wait til December after my Matric Vac to upgrade maybe N96 will even be cheaper by then. . . .???

Posted by amawanqa
@ Gucci,
Yeah I reckon it makes sense to hold onto the N81 until then. A lot will depend when the N96 hits the shelves. If it's available by late May/June, it's bound to be slightly more affordable by the end of the year.
I say slightly, 'cos the N95, for example, has held its value so well, much better than any other phone I care to think of.
The N96 is bound to follow suit.
But if Nokia release even higher spec models later this year, it could count in your favour, as demand will then shift towards this and perhaps less on the N96 come late December...

At this stage though, methinks that N96 is still gonna be pretty pricey for quite some time after its launch..

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[ This Message was edited by: amawanqa on 2008-02-18 21:29 ]

Posted by Muhammad-Oli

On 2008-02-18 10:48:19, amawanqa wrote:
Hi M-O, and welcome to the SA thread.
You're the second Kiwi to visit us (after carkitter), and it's great having some more Southern Hemisphere esato members around here.

M-O, yeah I think it's safe to say that we all know you weren't in particular. You've become quite a prominent and valued member and contributor on esato and there's never been any deliberate malice from you directed at any member.
Having a bit of a joke at his style of posting etc was all in good humour; I even had a smile, but it's some of the others in there that have repeatedly knocked and derided him through the years, specifically creating threads calling for him to be banned etc.

I also don't want this to become an all-out pro-Jojo thread which may lead to further friction between various parties (and would be detrimental to this thread) as I do not pretend to know all the facts and therefore can only go by what I know to be true.

To that extent, I feel we have said what was needed to, from our perspective, and hopefully we'll leave it at that.

Totally off-topic, that V630i pic of yours, of the 'Doubtful Sound', is keeewwwl!
Wow, the natural beauty of that area looks stunning.


Hehe, always a few steps behind carkitter!

Thanks mate! Yeah now that you mention it, I do remember those threads calling for Jojo to be banned. As you stated, enough has been said in that regard, and I think Jojo's position at Esato is quite safe due to the respect of people like Masseur, so we will leave it at that.

Wow thanks for the compliment! It's funny though, that picture is actually doing worse in the Esato photo gallery top-list than one of my other photos of that area of New Zealand which has made it as high as number 4, and currently sits at about number 6! I wonder what people would have thought, had I entered that photo to the competition... If you ever get the chance to visit New Zealand, I really recommend Doubtful Sound. It seems that the further south you go in New Zealand, the better it gets!

Cheers!

Posted by amawanqa

On 2008-02-18 23:15:02, Muhummad-Oli wrote:
It seems that the further south you go in New Zealand, the better it gets!


...and colder too, I believe!

Yeah, just look how any other rugby team suffers when they get down to The House Of Pain in Dunedin...

How many networks are in EnZed? Vodafone seems to have a strong presence there too..

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Haha oh yes. Due to the huge support from the University students down in Otago I believe. They'd rather go out and do something rather than freeze in their dingy student flats, so they all go watch the rugby and get drunk, etc. So theres always a very loud, supportive crowd in The House of Pain!

We have just two networks here in NZ, but just the one GSM network (Vodafone), the other (Telecom) is a CDMA network with terrible phones, etc. So people don't have much choice when they come here from other countries, you either go with Vodafone or buy a really bad Sanyo phone on CDMA.

I don't really know as I haven't experienced overseas networks, but apparently both our networks are quite behind too, in terms of customer service, pricing, coverage, etc.

Posted by Rishone
Good Morning/Afternoon/Night to my Fellow South African Esatonians.

Posted by HOBBS
Most of these G-series themes seem to have a strong feminine feel to them.Maybe its going to be marketed as a 'chick' phone.New Linkboy,going to check it out.

@ GUCCI Im skipping this upgrade in June.I'm going to do the same thing and just wait for a 8gb memory card to hit the market at a reasonable price and then get one and leave it at that.Will upgrade on my second contract due in a year from now.I've gotta step off the cell-phone treadmill sometime and keep a phone longer than I have in the past.P990 sufficient for me at this moment in time.Played on your 4th generation N81 and without that touchscreen I would be lost.I need my touchscreen.Just gotten so used to it.And lets not forget the price of these phones which is another deterent.With the advance of cellphone technology,phones are bordering on R9000-R10000 (at least the ones that I want).Thats like two not so hot laptops or one really nice laptop.Contracts of R800 a month with R2000 pay ins or R132 a month with R7000 pay ins.Somebody out there is getting stinking rich while we just fork out our pennies to make them richer.



Posted by HOBBS
And by the way hello to Muhummad-Oli (my Super 14 enemy) and Rishone.Nice to meet you guys.Put your feet up and make yourselves at home.Your host Brix will be with you shortly lol

Posted by HOBBS
For the Wangs.

From P1iblog.com

'During my short term absence, I'll be inviting bloggers to guest blog on my behalf about the Sony Ericsson P1i and the UIQ platform, so stay tuned on the blog this week!

If you're interested in being a long term guest blogger, don't hesitate to contact me at xtream [at] p1iblog [dot] com '

Give it a bash.Would love to hear your thoughts on the P1i.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli

On 2008-02-19 08:23:33, HOBBS wrote:
And by the way hello to Muhummad-Oli (my Super 14 enemy) and Rishone.Nice to meet you guys.Put your feet up and make yourselves at home.Your host Brix will be with you shortly lol



Cheers mate! Which of the South African teams might you support? I am from Canterbury, so naturally, I support the Crusaders. Hehe. How many times have we won???

Posted by Kryptik
Hobbs, i second your motion of welcome Howzit going, Muhummad and Rish? Good to see you guys here.

Muhummad, your mention of two networks reminds me of a similar time here a few years ago, when we had to choose between Vodacom and MTN. To think, back then one had to pay to listen to voicemail! We've certainly come quite a way since then.

Posted by HOBBS
Muhummud that would be the Stormers cause Im from Cape Town but usually half way through the tournament I switch alianses to The Bulls from Pretoria cause The Stormers are usually sitting somewhere at the bottom of the log by that stage with no hope in hell of making the play-offs.

Ok Wangs,got the new Linkboy.Will let you know what I think of it as soon as I give it a test drive.

Hey Kryps.Hope you not working to hard dude.

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[ This Message was edited by: HOBBS on 2008-02-19 13:41 ]

Posted by Rhino8

On 2008-02-19 13:56:08, Muhummad-Oli wrote:

On 2008-02-19 08:23:33, HOBBS wrote:
And by the way hello to Muhummad-Oli (my Super 14 enemy) and Rishone.Nice to meet you guys.Put your feet up and make yourselves at home.Your host Brix will be with you shortly lol



Cheers mate! Which of the South African teams might you support? I am from Canterbury, so naturally, I support the Crusaders. Hehe. How many times have we won???



I support the cheetahs, i know they aint too good in the super 14 at the moment, but thats who i support

Posted by GUCCI.011
@ Wanqa
Eish so true,im afraid of that, agh well theres always next year lol! Still enjoing this baby.
Hows the P1 treating you?
@ Hobbs
Thats a great idea P990 still quite a phone,especialy for the price. On my side i can't stand touchscreen and jogdial navigation i found it annoying.

Posted by Kryptik
Work was a breeze today, Hobbs. Spent an hour at a union meeting this afternoon, sipping Fanta Apple and reading ebooks, pretending to be very interested in a lot of gobbledegook which had no real bearing on work-related matters.

Posted by HOBBS
Cool Kryps. Do you have a nice link for me to find ebooks for my Mobipocket Reader.

Posted by brix25
Although I saw Muhammad-Oli's post this morning I couldn't reply because I was rushing off to a breakfast meeting.

What happened to the 3rd network that our friend from Zim was supposed to have launched in ENZED? Any word on when Telecom will ditch CDMA?

Like HOBBS I also support the Stormers but to say they're disappointing is an understatement. They always promise a breakthrough during the off season but halfway through the competition they have a collective brain explosion. All that said I might go to Newlands to watch them this Friday.

Posted by JC08
Lol I also support the Stormers, although I was born in 'Vrystaat' haha and now live in Cowteng...lol


Posted by amawanqa
Welcome to the SA Mobile Discussion, Rishone.

@ Hobbster,

Boet, methinks you're worthy of my vote for African esato member of the year, when Whizkidd gets the 2008 awards underway in the months to come. The info, links, UIQ stuff and contributions in general to this thread warrant that.
I'll have a think about the P1i blog involvement though. Really not sure I can commit to another forum/blog at this stage..

Been painting the 3rd bedroom today. Getting goefed on the fumes. One more coat of Dulux 'Timeless' and that'll be that.
Will check in later again.

Posted by HOBBS
Hey Gucci.Didnt you say your touchscreen experience was on a Windows Mobile phone.My first encounter on a touchscreen was a PDA running Windows Mobile and I hated it.Have you played around on a UIQ3 device?

Posted by HOBBS
Go Liverpool.

Posted by brix25
@HOBBS: I'm also watching the game but TBH I couldn't give a toss about either team...still dealing with Saturday's thrashing of the Gunners by Manure...I can't believe they were that awful.

PS: Seems like Liverpool want to take this game to the wire in second leg. Despite heaps of possession/chances they can't seem to put the ball between the sticks.

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Posted by amawanqa
2 goals in the last 5 minutes. There'll be loads of happy Scousers tonight...and a relieved Benitez...

Posted by HOBBS
In the end there Brix a well deserved win by one of those teams you couldnt give a toss about.lol Love that last goal.Bloody awesome sharpshooting of the highest standard.

Posted by brix25
@HOBBS: Indeed some fat scouse lass is singing somewhere along the Merseyside. I take back everything I said in my earlier post. Indeed, that last goal was a masterclass.

[ This Message was edited by: brix25 on 2008-02-19 22:54 ]

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Wow your discussion goes by so much quicker than my NZ thread. At the moment theres only me and carkitter holding our one up!


On 2008-02-19 14:34:00, Kryptik wrote:
Hobbs, i second your motion of welcome Howzit going, Muhummad and Rish? Good to see you guys here.



Muhummad, your mention of two networks reminds me of a similar time here a few years ago, when we had to choose between Vodacom and MTN. To think, back then one had to pay to listen to voicemail! We've certainly come quite a way since then.



Thanks for the warm welcome guys!

You are lucky you don't have to pay to listen to voicemail! We have to pay 30c which is more here than the standard cost of a text message (20c). NZ has a looong way to go! Vodafone has a bit of a monopoly here, so they can charge whatever they like. The government is starting to force their prices down though, so hopefully we'll see the effects of that soon!


On 2008-02-19 14:40:33, HOBBS wrote:
Muhummud that would be the Stormers cause Im from Cape Town but usually half way through the tournament I switch alianses to The Bulls from Pretoria cause The Stormers are usually sitting somewhere at the bottom of the log by that stage with no hope in hell of making the play-offs.



The Stormers don't seem too bad. Unlucky to start the season off with a loss! Hopefully they'll find some good form this season and start winning some games! Good luck to you!


On 2008-02-19 18:58:00, brix25 wrote:
Although I saw Muhammad-Oli's post this morning I couldn't reply because I was rushing off to a breakfast meeting.



What happened to the 3rd network that our friend from Zim was supposed to have launched in ENZED? Any word on when Telecom will ditch CDMA?



Like HOBBS I also support the Stormers but to say they're disappointing is an understatement. They always promise a breakthrough during the off season but halfway through the competition they have a collective brain explosion. All that said I might go to Newlands to watch them this Friday.



There has never really been a 3rd network, though Telstra has been around, but originally they just leached off Vodafone's network. Then they disappeared and came back to leach off Telecom's network. So they are hardly a 3rd network! Maybe that's what Zim was doing?

Ah, you've always got to support your favourite team! You're not bottom of the table yet!

Posted by Kryptik
Hobbs, plenty of ebooks to be had, mate Ipmart is currently one of the best sources for the latest releases.

Muhummad, you have my sympathies, that voicemail situation brings back painful memories, lol. In time i'm sure it'll change though. It's like the networks develop according to a set pattern, i.e. first fleece the populace, then phase in improvements like "free voicemail", etc. Their ripoffs are nearly as bad as the fly-by-night traditional doctors performing botched circumcisions.

Posted by amawanqa
@ M-O,
Fantastic ODI cricket game in your neck of the woods at the mo, between NZ and England. Some serious 'fireworks' from both teams!
Oh crap, and as I type this, Ryder is out...

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[ This Message was edited by: amawanqa on 2008-02-20 03:10 ]

Posted by Kryptik
roflmao!!! If you're in need of a quick pick-me-up, read the article found at http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/715

Posted by amawanqa


ROLMAO, Kryptik! I'll have to now add 'Lamtietie' (LOL) on our 'places to visit' list for when we're in SA in August... .

Posted by Kryptik
hehehe, the article about the school pledge is just as hilarious! What a way to start a Wednesday! LOL, i love it!

Posted by HOBBS
@ M-0 No wonder its just you and Carkitter holding up the fort if you still paying for voicemail,what are your GPRS/3G charges per megabyte.?
Thanks Krypts,Ipmart it is then.

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Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Yeah its pretty bad! I mean, why should I pay to hear the message from someone who called me?! I am only on a prepaid account, so data rates are extremely high (I tend not to use it at all) at a rate of about $10/Megabyte (way, way, way overpriced). But carkitter is more into the data side, having set himself up so that his home-phone, cellphone, home internet connection, etc., are all incorporated into one Vodafone plan which I believe he gets at a decent cost. He probably gets some discount for that though!

I seem to remember a year ago there was a report that NZ call pricing was among the highest in the world! And one person on Esato (who I believe was South African) who moved to New Zealand recently told me that Vodafone actually told him that they just charge whatever they want to charge, just because they can! It's a bit of an insult to us New Zealanders really, but what can we do?!

@amawanqa: Yeah I've watched a bit of the cricket recently. It's been great! But I missed today's game, I'll look forward to catching some highlights hopefully tonight! I wouldn't have thought you'd get coverage of a NZ vs. England cricket match!

Posted by HOBBS
@M-O 1.00NZD=6.3ZAR So what you saying is if I do a conversion in my money you paying around R63/mb.No way dude.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Yeah, exactly why I don't use it! Like I said, that is only on prepay where they don't expect anyone to use data anyway. If anyone were to use data in NZ with their phone, I think they'd know to go on a plan!

Plans make it a lot cheaper, but still more expensive than most other data providers I think. I am not sure of the costs on a plan so I couldn't say for sure what its like!

Posted by amawanqa
@ M-O,
I now live in the UK, hence the coverage. My 'roots' are still very much in SA, though. You wanna check out that highlights package; that was one of the most thrilling ODI games for quite some time.

BTW, congrats on your new Havana Gold W910i! Love that exclusive colour on the new Vodafone handsets.

Posted by amawanqa
Looks like Blu-Ray is winning the HD War...

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=165315

Sony must be relieved that the pendulum's not swinging the same way as the VHS-Beta war a few decades ago.

Posted by HOBBS
My congrats on that W910i as well.Very funny story how your first one you recieved had already been used and abused.You quite a storyteller buddy.And then your unboxing photo's and those humorous taglines explaining each photo.Good one.Hope you enjoy.Those data cost are hilariously insane dude.Thank goodness I aint living in NZ.That would be enough to put me on a plane out of there.lol

Posted by amawanqa
Wow, the Xperia X1 runs on the new, yet-to-be-announced WindowsMobile 6.1.
Pics and article in here:

http://www.gsmarena.com/xperia_x1_runs_on_windows_61-news-441.php

This should get Gucci's attention:

'520 MHz CPU used along with the Qualcomm 7200 chipset, the 128MB of available RAM and the 1500 mAh battery.'

Those specs were mentioned when the phone was announced, but it's great to see them verified on this live prototype. Finally a bril CPU; should keep Dogmann quieter for a while.. and that battery capacity seems impressive, unlike the N96's offering...

Still, the N96 and new iPhone lead the way in the on-board memory specs wars. (16 gig).


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Posted by Rhino8

On 2008-02-20 13:01:42, amawanqa wrote:
Looks like Blu-Ray is winning the HD War...

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=165315

Sony must be relieved that the pendulum's not swinging the same way as the VHS-Beta war a few decades ago.



Whe war was over when warner bros studios jumped ship tp blu-ray exclusivity. I have neen following the whole war very closely

Posted by Muhammad-Oli

On 2008-02-20 12:51:09, amawanqa wrote:
@ M-O,
I now live in the UK, hence the coverage. My 'roots' are still very much in SA, though. You wanna check out that highlights package; that was one of the most thrilling ODI games for quite some time.

BTW, congrats on your new Havana Gold W910i! Love that exclusive colour on the new Vodafone handsets.




On 2008-02-20 13:30:05, HOBBS wrote:
My congrats on that W910i as well.Very funny story how your first one you recieved had already been used and abused.You quite a storyteller buddy.And then your unboxing photo's and those humorous taglines explaining each photo.Good one.Hope you enjoy.Those data cost are hilariously insane dude.Thank goodness I aint living in NZ.That would be enough to put me on a plane out of there.lol



Yeah I guess I am going to have to catch the highlights of that game on the news tomorrow! I missed it and it's now very early Thursday morning here! So I guess proper highlights are over by now. So you'd still support South Africa if they played England?

Thanks for the compliments guys, I'm really enjoying the new phone and I love the colour too. It's something a bit different to the usual black or silver! And a lot different to my previous V630i. I've just found out its not so flash for gaming though. World Rally Championship (3D) has such a bad frame-rate that it's not even worth playing. It's frustrating! Otherwise, it's a great phone. What phones do you guys use?

Just found the rates for data on the NZ Vodafone website! They're a little WORSE than I had said!

All prices are NZ$ sorry! But HOBBS said 1.00NZD=6.3ZAR, so you'll get the idea.

Prepay - $11.25/MB (no, that's not a typo!).

Plans:
3MB for $11.25 + extra MBs cost $2.25 (This is on a plan!).
15MB for $21.38 + extra MBs cost $1.69.
200MB for $39.95 + extra MBs cost 50 cents.
1GB for $59.95 + extra MBs cost 50 cents.
3GB for $79.95 + extra MBs cost 50 cents.

To put this into perspective a bit, on the main NZ home broadband provider, my family get 3GB/month for about NZ $30.

The pricing above is mobile data pricing for non-business customers on plans, so business customers will get cheaper deals. But as you can see, you'd have to be very stupid to use data in New Zealand using Vodafone (and I believe Telecom is just as bad)!

I think either carkitter is phenomenally rich, or he's getting a very very good deal on his Vodafone plans. I suspect he has some contacts quite high up in Vodafone management.

I'd advise that if you come to NZ, either sort out a rate with your current service provider for roaming, or do all your internet usage at a computer, not a phone!

It's funny, I think I write the longest posts in your thread than anywhere else on Esato! So sorry about the long-winded replies guys!


Posted by GUCCI.011
@ Hobbs
Ive played on UIQ phones. Ive had a go at the P910 and i was fortunate enough to play with the P1 and W960 in October last year. I liked them but i prefer to have a Dpad, also don't like the idea of touching the screen and using a jogdial all just seems unecessary to me.
@ Wanqa
WOW! 520mhz!!? Not bad AT ALL boet, thats 120mhz more than the current WM Flagship device HTC TyTN-II. The battery yah is much better than N96, im still not sure what CPU N96 is using AND it looks like im not alone judging by the N96 Thread at Symbian Freak, NOKIA are keeping the CPU a secret.

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