Posted by kimcheeboi
edit: now that the right-wing fascist mofos have control of all 3 branches of the government (remember that at least 1 democratic justice will retire in the next few years, leaving an opening for another conservative justice creating a 5-4 republican majority in the Supreme Court), I will now proceed to banish myself from the sh*thole called the United States of America
Any ideas on where i should go, peeps?
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Posted by Jake Blues
youre gonna come to the 51st state? what do you think its gonna be like here after another 4 years of bush and blair. i would go to mars
Posted by kimcheeboi
hmmmm im feeling very axxxr~y right now!
anyhoo its time to break out the old 70's music, my rage against the machine, metallica, eminem...
my draft card for world war 3 will be burnin!
Posted by absinthebri
The only Americans I meet are the ones who come to the UK and they seem to be pleasant liberal-minded people with a deep concern for the effects of US foreign policy. Americans seem to be NICE people. So where do all these fascist morons come from?
Posted by Vlammetje
they are the ones who stay in America
people who travel generally tend to see a broader perspective than those who don't.
Having said that..... today is one of the very few moments where i am actually thanking my good fortune years ago when I could no longer extend my work permit and visa for the USA
Posted by Jake Blues
i think its only the nice ones who travel. all the fascist morons cant get out of their sisters bed to do any travelling.
Posted by kimcheeboi
yeah its too bad that plenty of americans dont give a flying f**k what happens to others, as long as 'we' benefit.
once i played this game called the 'game of life'--we had two teams of about 50 people each, and we had to decide whether we would pick red or black. If one team picked red and the other picked black, then the team that picked red would get 2 points and the black team would get -1 points. If both teams picked black, we would both get 3 points. And if both teams picked red, we would lose 2 points.
Well we ended up trying to make our selves win by picking what we thought was best for US, but the point of the game was to have the two teams both pick so we would all win. Kinda showed me how selfish we as people are
It's really quite sad how even our leaders fail to recognize that we are part of an international community and we havea great responsibility as the most powerful nation to lead the world. Somehow we're always dragging the world back.
Look at the situation in the Middle east! If we follow through with out Iran threats, we could end up losing the middle east. Pakistan is on the verge of erupting, and whoop diddly do, we arent doing anything about it.
Yeah so here we come, 4 more years of isolationism and arrogance.
Just remember, people, lots of americans don't think like this. Please try to continue and respect the people for what they are, and there's a lot of extremely pissed-off and disappointed people tonight.
Posted by Vlammetje
there's a lot of pissed off and diappointed people no matter what the result. Around 50% of your nation will hate the newxt president no matter which one it is.
The whole problem with the american so called democracy is that most people choose on basis of slogans+face of one guy partially and their neighbours/parents/friends/ancestors choices mostly.
Unlike over here, to make a balanced choice here you'd have to know what each party (and we have a lot more than 2) stands for. Americans choose based on the party of the guy and his appearance on tv more than on his real election promises and his plans for the future. I dare say over 60% of the americans do not know more than 10% of either candidates' program and promises.
And then there is the 'minor issue' that in 'worlds greatest democracy' (
) it is possible for reguistered voters to be refused entrance to the voting booth. This happened to friends of mine in Florida 4 years ago, the news reports said this year it happened again in Ohio. Ooooh the power of true democracy is that EVERYBODY gets to cast their own vote 
Worlds greatest democracy (run by the republicans) also have managed to delete eligible voters off the voters list under the pretext that they have a criminal record. Incidentally they did not have a criminal record (I understand when you do you can never ever vote again?) but they had something else, something potentially equally bad apparently: a non-white skin colour.
So in the nation that thinks they are to lead this world to... -what exactly??- it is possible for registered voters to get deleted...... for people to get barred from entering the voting booth (we're talking physical aggression here), it is possible for a possible 100000 (according to the news this morning) votes to be cast of people that are NOT registered and may not even exist, may have moved, may have died or may have been arrested, to be accepted and taken in to the count.
I can't begin to think what else may 'gone wrong'
It sounds like a bad movie doesn't it? It sounds like a scenario for elections in Zimbabwe, doesn't it?
Does anybody else feel the need to send UN staff round to make sure the elections are done in a fair and democratic manner? Like we did in places like Kosovo?
Posted by absinthebri
Absolutely, Marga. If the US election took place anywhere in Africa or the countries of the former Soviet Union it would have been denounced by international observers.
Posted by blackspot
Tranquility bay
Posted by kimcheeboi
its too bad the parties have to resort to name-calling and dirty tricks to win the world's most powerful position. It's really quite a pity.
Posted by methylated_spirit
Theres nowhere 100% free from corruption and bullshit kim, i would suggest a caribbean island.
Posted by plasmadog
India is good, elections are noisy affairs but they're over fast and booze is cheap! ;-)
Posted by methylated_spirit
Sweet home Americana,
Where the skies are smooth
Kimcheeboi is my name-oh
And hatin' Bush is what i doooo
Posted by shithappens
u r alwiz welcomed at Lumpaland mate
Posted by blackspot
oooh a Wonka fan. I have a perfect puzzle for you...
Posted by Sir-SonyEricsson-man
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Come to norway.. you would love it her
Posted by kimcheeboi
hmmm you all have got me thinking!
Posted by Sir-SonyEricsson-man
you can rent a apartment in my house..
Posted by kimcheeboi
oooo maybe i actually will visit norway sometime!
Posted by tranquil
Everything is really cheap here...
Posted by Vlammetje
....especially booze?
*hiccup*
Posted by kimcheeboi
wow! i'm actually considering visiting Norway next summer!
@tranquil-i'll bring the booze
Posted by Krubach
Will you get through customs?
I could recommend Portugal.
It has all the bad things from a 3rd world country, and all the bad things from industrialized countries.
Just PERFECT!
But as long as the sun shines...
Posted by kimcheeboi
hey! As long as Bush ain't the president!
Posted by Krubach
Uh-oh! This is getting hot now...
Posted by kimcheeboi
chill ya'll.
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Posted by ADT0079
yeah like i said kerry would contend some state and he did ohio so it's pretty good to say bush has won the election
kerry cant just take it like a man
Posted by 50Cent
yeah
its a debate not a fight
Posted by kimcheeboi
hey! THIS IS NOT A DEBATE!
NO THREADJACKING!
its about me trying to find a place to live outside of the USA
Posted by 50Cent
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ok, where u off to then?
me=non-threadjacker
Posted by kimcheeboi
@adt-shut up and stop threadjacking!
theres like 3 election threads, and unless you have a place for me to live outside of the u.s., quiete, por favor!
Posted by 50Cent
r u DEBATING about leaving US for good?
Posted by kimcheeboi
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naaahhhh not really i dont have the money or education to go anywhere else right now
but if things dont improve im definitely moving to another country!
@adt-
thought you would have learned the first time around
edit: oh lookie lookie you edited your post! well i can too
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Posted by 50Cent
@adt-
thought you would have learned the first time around
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lol
I would move to india or summin
but that aint gonna happen for a looooooong time!
Posted by ADT0079
Every1 have fun this was great we have come to see kim is not leaving the US just talking smack because like it or not this is the best country to live in ........
So be happy you aleast have a place to stay
Some people dont..
Posted by kimcheeboi
hmmm where is masseur?
i thought he said something like he would loooooovve to have me in australia, someting about i make the toilet water go the other direction!
Posted by masseur
I think what I actually said (earlier in the UK thread) was...
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Posted by kimcheeboi
ooohhhh it sounds like ill be going to australia, then!
Posted by 50Cent
Australia! nice place, nice climate...but those damn spiders !
Posted by kimcheeboi
i really do want to visit italy and france though
just travel, try to become more open-minded, that's what it's all about!
Posted by 50Cent
italy and spain are on my list.
Posted by kimcheeboi
hmmm it seems as if i gonna have to save some money!
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The following statement is usually only ever used in reply to jojo posts, but since this definitely warrants it, hmmm ...
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Posted by methylated_spirit
Perhaps if you left America, or even bothered seeing what other countries have to offer, you wouldnt be making such a blanket statemenmt. hmmmm
Posted by scotsboyuk
Of course many people will say that their own country is the best place to live, but being objective I would really have a hard time saying that America is the best place to live; unless one is very rich of course.
@kim
Move to Europe; we may not be perfect, but we have a good standard of living and you can't buy guns in supermarkets.
Posted by Vlammetje
America definitely IS the best place to live in!!!! (for a limited number of privileged people it is)
For all other slobs america is hard work, no guarantees.
Having that said.... my won country isn't so great either
And once I know where Kim is settling I might consider moving someplace else
masseur can i come to australia?
Posted by methylated_spirit
I want to to NZ, my sister lives there, its fabulous. But I may have to kick switchbitch's ass.
Posted by masseur
although I have worked in many many countries and travelled to many other, USA has never much appealed despite being offered work and visas and stuff. been a few times to the usual places, LA, SF, Boston, NY but really had no feeling of wanting to stay
@vlammetje, you'd be welcome in Australia I am sure
I'm going home for a week in March and I think MixiN is going in May and there's plenty of others that will welcome you!
Posted by scotsboyuk
I actually rather like in Britain. The weather may be awful, trains are frequently late, the hospitals are falling to bits, more and more people are increasingly disillusioned by the political process and we are taxed ever more, but then again there is no other place like it.
Having said all that, I wouldn't mind living in Japan.