Posted by DSF
Conditions: battery must have 5-6 hours talk time, mmc or other memory stick support, a browser that support xhtml atleast, ir, bluetooth, windows or symbian. Nokia 3650 and 3660 are excluded. Please write what u reccomend me, and what u think about the recommanded phone. Also write the aprox. price of the smartphone (in EU or US). Thanks
This message was posted from a Nokia 7650
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Posted by methylated_spirit
p910i
Posted by DSF
P910i it's too expensive. And guys pls write a short opinion, description about the adviced phone, not only the name...
Posted by vineet_d
goto gsmarena.com and findout urself
Posted by methylated_spirit
p800, and
to find all the info you will evr need on it!
Posted by david1975
Try the sendo x cheaper than the p910 has all the features your looking for plus a few more
Posted by marlonski
I find 'mobileburn' another good starting point for information. (some good links too)
http://www.mobileburn.com/
Arima's U300 looks interesting, you got plenty of reading to do me thinks !!
http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=887&source=SIDEBARHOME
Good luck
Posted by tonyitalian
try the motorola x220 ...there is a link of it on Esato's main page for more info...good luck
btw im trying to find a good smartphone myself ..... but i am taking linux os into consideration aswell as i am not a big an of windows...
so the phones i have narrowed down to are
nokia 6630, nokia 6260, motorola a780, motorola, x220, motorola MPx and nokia 9300.....ofcourse i already got he p910i!
Posted by DSF
Tony how is the n6260? Vineet i need subjective opinions... Thanx guys for the links, i'll try them when i connect to internet. I like mpx220 but it's expensive at 500eu. SendoX is on my list but i havent seen it on a gsm shop, how much cost this one now?
Posted by tonyitalian
@DSF
The nokia 6260 is a great clamshell smartphone with Symbian Series 60. The thing that is different about this phone from the rest is that it has a revolving high resolution display! On the other hand the 2 things i dont like about this phone is that number 1 it is a Nokia and i hate nokia's, i am a SE user! and number 2 it is not touchscreen, but i might just overlook these 2 things!
So far the Motorola A780 is winning the race for me because it is linux based and has touchscreen! But i am not sure about any 3rd part applications of this phone....as it is linux based. This was pointed out to me by another Esato.com member.
Keep us posted on what you're thinking or about any useful links you might find while doing your research!
Good luck!
Posted by DSF
I think it's hard to find a 3rd party software for linux mobiles because developers develope java, symbian and windows apps. Offcourse linux mobiles have support for java but those java apps are not that evolved like symbian/windows apps... Nokia 7610 it's a good deal? I've heard that a samsung model with 1.3mp camera is based on symbian s60. Is it true?What do you think about siemens sx1?
Posted by DSF
And the smartphone needs to have a ergonomic joystic or navigation keys. My joystick make pains to my finger(s)
Posted by scotsboyuk
@DSF
I would also recommend the Sendo X, all the reviews I have seen of it give it high praise and it has a good set of features. I would also recommend the P800, if you are on a budget this is a good option over the P910 as the P800 has almost all the same features, just toned down a little. The P900 might also be a vialble option, it has come down in price quite significantly lately, especially if you are looking to get it with a contract.
Posted by DSF
@scotsboyuk i like sendo x. I was thought to buy the p800 but many users said that the display is sensitive and can be broken by a fall..and the stylus is not that resistent. Apart of this and the memory stick limit this is a great smartphone by performance/price
Posted by scotsboyuk
@DSF
If you drop any mobile you are likely to damage it! The P800 stylus is plastic, but I can't say that I eve rbroke mine, although I did loose one or two. The P800 is a very good choice, but if you can afford to get a P900 then I would suggest you do so.
The Sendo X looks to be a very good device and I have to admit to being rather interested in it myself. I don't know anyone with one so I can't offer you any first hand experience of using it, but it certainly appears to offer a lot of features. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it is the only British smartphone on the market.
Posted by DSF
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wow! it really looks good and it's a realy gadget
But i think this phone will be expensive...
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Posted by marlonski
Yes it does look 'gadget' !
Like the sound of 30 frames per second video as well.....
Will be interesting to see how it compares pricewise with its rivals.
Posted by DSF
So no one did hold a sendox in hands to share us the first impresion...?
Posted by DSF
Did someone got siemens sx1? What do you think about this one? The speaker generates hi-quality audio? (since nokia 7650/3650/6600 plays audio files worse..). What's the prince for this phone?
Posted by DSF
Have you seen this review ?
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/reviews/review2.php?id=105
Posted by DSF
I think i am going for 6600, it has symbian 7.0, mmc, but awfull audio (?). What do you think? Anyone who got this phone wanna share impresions/points of wiews? How much RAM does it have? Because i dont want to see 'memory low' (ram memory) message as i see it on 7650 when try to open some 'sophisticated' webpages...
Posted by plasmadog
dsf...
for the time being, i'd suggest u stay away from linux smartphones. they aren't as developed at the symbian/windows os ones.
but if u are a linux developer, u can make the software urself.. which is great!!
Posted by k700nut
Why dont you save and buy a p9..?imo,the 6600 is a cheap dull smartphone.like you stated;the audio is horrific and distorted,half off apps crash when opened,boring grid menu,cosmetically ugly,unresponsive joystick,regular crashes on wap,etc.the only way it outperforms the p9,is in the imaging department.however,only you can ultimately decide here!
Posted by DSF
@plasmadog i dont want a linux smartphone.. @k700nut the p900 is nice but i cant use it pub places with the stylus, just with flip on but not all apps runs in this mode. P900 display is very sensitive, and i drop often mobiles.. How about p900, 6600's ram memory? How much is it?
Posted by k700nut
The 6600 has 6mb phone memory,and is supplied with a 32mb rs mmc when bought brand new.
Posted by DSF
K700nut i was asking about RAM (temporary memory, for executing and working with current apps) memory and not flash (stacable) memory
Posted by k700nut
Not sure on that.only kept the phone for 2days, before returning it,and requestin a full refund.
Posted by DSF
7610 & 6670 are other nice Series 60 7.0 smartphones... all standard s60 features + 1mp camera
But the battery talk time is still worse, just 3 hours.
Same with the audio, is still like other nokias
"Also I would like to point out that polyphony still remains a weak point of phones made by Nokia, in this parameter the device loses greatly to Korean phones and models made by Siemens and Motorola. The only way out is to set mp3 melody as a call signal, all the other versions do not seem appropriate (the quality of the sound is acceptable, but not more, mp3 is better). Another weak point is that the device has mono output, this means that it is impossible to use it as mp3 player. Such files can be used only as call signals.
Here are some links:
7610 review
7610 specifications
6670 review
6670 specifications
What do you think guys?
Posted by DSF
What do you think about Motorola MPX100?
I think it's great. I really really like it very much!
Specifications:
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Model: Motorola MPx100
Price: Middle price segment
Color: Silver with black elements
Weight: 130 g
Dimensions (HxBxT in mm): 114 x 50 x 22
Standby time: up to 200 hours
Talk time: up to 450 minutes
Band support: Tri band GSM 900/1800/1900, GPRS
Browser: MSN, Pocket Internet Explorer (Java, XHMTL basic, WAP 2.0)
GPRS connection: (2+4)
Display: Color display, 176 x 220 pixels
Integrated digital camera: Yes, 1.3 megapixels and three-phase super bright flash
Data interface: Bluetooth, USB, IrDA, ActiveSync
Voice Dialing: Yes
Vibration alarm: Yes
Messaging: Instant Messaging via MSN Messenger, MMS, E-Mail and PIMSync
Storage capacity: 64 MB Flash ROM, 32 MB SD RAM + mini SD slot (up to 512 MB)
Multimedia: MP3, MP4, WMA
Directory entries in the equipment: Dynamic memory
Characteristics:
- Windows Mobile Smartphone 2003
- Microsoft Pocket Outlook
- Windows Media Player
- integrated antenna
- supports VPN
Resources @ Motorola:
http://www.motorola.com/mot/doc/1/1055_MotDoc.pdf
http://www.motorola.com/media[....]raphics/list/0,,4322-2,00.html
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Posted by DSF
Here is a SendoX review. It doesn't seems like i'd expect..
Visit here:
Sendo X review (56k warning)
I think that the Motorola MPX100 is the best choice for a non-touchscreen smartphone... great design, great features
Posted by DSF
I think MPX100 was discontinued
http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page925.html
http://www.howardforums.com/s[....]did=425690&highlight=%2Bmpx100
I really liked that phone, the design, since i don't like clamshell phones that much...
Posted by DSF
Other nice Windows Smartphones:
- Sagem MyS7 (too bad that it doesn't have bluetooth)
http://www.gsmarena.com/sagem_my_s_7-722.php
http://www.sagem.com/mobiles/[....]x_niveau3.php?modeleType=mob12
http://www.msmobilenews.com/?cid=588
- Orange SPV C500
http://www.phoneyworld.com/ha[....]ecs.aspx?phone=orange_SPV_C500
http://www.coolsmartphone.com[....]les&task=viewarticle&artid=339
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/handset/orange_spv_c500/detail (the UK users can get it for free with contract, too bad that, in my country, Orange, doesnt even provide this phone..)
Please post your opinions
Posted by DSF
Another cool PDAPhone with Microsoft Pocket PC 2003 Phone Edition, but unfortunately no bluetooth incorporated...
DP900 PDA Phone
- Communication: GSM 900/1800/1900MHz GPRS Class 10
- Processor: Intel PXA255 300MHz
- Operating System: Microsoft Pocket PC 2003 Phone Edition
- Weight: ~150g
- Flash Memory: 64MB NAND Flash on board
- Main Memory: 64MB SDRAM on board
- Display: 3” 240 x 320 resolution, 262K color TFT LCD
- Battery: 1100 mAh Li-ion Polymer
- Talk Time: >3 Hrs*
- Standby Time: Minimum 100 hrs*
- Antenna: Flip Type
- Rotatable CMOS Camera VGA type(180°)
- External Storage: Support SD/MMC Card
- IrDA Support: SIR support
- Hands free/Loud Speaker Function
- Vocoder: HR/FR/EFR/AMR
- Message Service: SMS/MMS
- WAP Support: WAP V2.0
- Camera/Image Editing Software, Phone Caller ID
- Video Capability: Software MPEG4 encode/decode
- I/O Port/Internal Slot: I/O Connector (USB Client/DC-In)
- SDIO Slot (SDIO Now! compliance)
* Subjects to application usage and battery state
More at http://www.dallab.com/DP900.htm
Posted by DSF
I've found out that Orange SPV C500 is just a rebranded version of QTek 8010.
http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page943.html
PICS: http://www.mysmartphone.no/mo[....]46&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
SPECS: http://www.mobile-review.com/forum2/showthread.php?t=15815
I like this phone!
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Posted by DSF
Is there someone who own QTek 8010? If so, please share your opinions.
Also, i found out that the QTek 8010's software is a bit different from Orange SPV c500. Expecially the welcome screen, which is better IMO.
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Posted by DSF
Hmm.. i've founded 2 new C500 clones... now there are 4 phones with identical aspect.. just diferent brand ???
I-mate SP3:
- http://eatay.com/viewbyproduct.php?product_id=1060
- http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=SMARTPHONE_3
Audiovox SMT5600:
- http://www.audiovox.com/webap[....]0001&productId=13758&langId=-1
- http://www.attwireless.com/ce[....]html?id=3100064&titleNumber=21
Another interesting topics:
- http://weblogs.asp.net/pleloup/archive/2004/10/25/247186.aspx
- http://mpx200.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=5405
Buy an unlocked SPV C500 for Development: http://ora.co.uk/orangeSPV/
Now the big question: which one to choose?
Posted by DSF
OK, i found on this site that HTC Typhoon is branded as Audiovox STM5600, T-Mobile SDA, Orange SPV C500, i-mate SP3.
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I found another cool phone, Qtek 8020 Smartphone.. it's a C500 but with a joystick and other design..
http://www.qtek.fi/qtek8020.htm
Improvements of 8020 over 8010:
- Modified camera AP to adapt to slow SD cards brands.
- Improved SD card writing issue due to slow clock speed of some SD card manufacturers.
- Updated T9 text input application.
- Improved MP3 playback from SD card.
- Updated some network operator names.
- Updated Microsoft Windows Mobile 2003 for Smartphone operating system build (AKU3).
- New MMS composer: 1.5.0.16
- Enhanced user interface and integrated file browser to attach files.
- Able to receive, playback and forward video MMS but cannot capture video and send directly as the camcorder cannot support .3gp video encoding.
- Solved MMS issue sent from SingTel network.
- Solved MMS issue sent from Nokia 6230 phone.
- Launch camera function added.
- GPRS will automatically disconnect after sending and receiving MMS.
- Improved standby time. The amount of improvement is dependant on network conditions, SIM card and usage pattern. Talk time and Bluetooth are not affected.
- Updated a number of network operator names.
- Added Bluetooth serial port support.
- Added ClearType font enhancement.
- Improved T9 text input performance.
- Improved USSD and Cell Broadcast performance.
- Clearer audio quality.
- Price:450-465 E
Source: http://www.mobile-review.com/forum2/showthread.php?t=15815
(i hope i'm not talking alone here...)
EDIT: I've found the smarthpone that i was looking for, now i have to get it. The smartphones that i like very much are HTC Typhoon and HTC Feeler
[ This Message was edited by: DSF on 2004-11-19 12:21 ]