Posted by dannykipling
the 8310 is the same as the 6510, (except for a wallet) but they are different styles, this is the same as the 6610 and 7210, they have the same features but different designs.
Posted by dondori
man Nokia is trying soooo hard.....and where abouts is the 7650????
Posted by Eamonn
the 6610 doesn't look that bad actually...
Posted by dazmcc
do you have any pics of the 6610?
Posted by dannykipling
www.nokia.com/6610
Posted by decoy7
http://www.nokia.com/phones/6610/index.html
Posted by mhorton
Posted by 3.1415926
I think the 6610 looks better than the 7210 somehow.
Posted by mhorton
Yeah so do I.
Posted by br.
Nice...eh..well, Nokia is Nokia, not very much news..
Posted by riflogic
Nokia is just trying too hard. They have always done the same in the past as well. They bring out handsets that are almost identical in features and the only thing they differ in is the looks. Classic examples can be of Nokia 6310 and 6310i, 6510 and 8310 and now 6610 and the 7210.
6610 looks a lot better than the 7210. Nokia is trying very hard indeed but they just do not seem to have the edge over the others any more. They have been the last ones to come out with a Tri-band phone. 6310i is the first Nokia to utilise all three GSM bands. Also I cannot help feel that they (Nokia) are providing these phones (7210 and 6610) with FM-Radio rather than Bluetooth module. Whats the point of taking the phone with a laptop and trying to connect cables and line infra red. Surely Nokia should pick a leaf out of SonyEricsson and have the Bluetooth module installed and have an option of an FM-Radio handsfree kit. I think because of this Nokia are losing it big time.
Posted by Jowi
hmm...6610 is ok
Posted by jh67
Yes it does look okay,..but still lacks email, voice-commands and of course bluetooth. its really too bad, because its a nice phone.
Think it must be the "classic version" of 7210.
Jan
Posted by sonyericsson
I found out from my friend that nokai 6610 is actually to cater content provider in turn make us consumer like stupid people.!!!!!
Nokia 6610 have background pictures like T68i but cannot use the computer to send background pictures to the phone!!
Nokia 6610 have infrared to use with computer to connect to GPRS but IR from nokia 6610 does not support!!!! you only can download throught WAP or NOKIA CLUB!! which will cost you every picture you download!!!
wow... we are paying for everything!
NOKIA USERs are really rich!
Posted by billy
Nokia will release 7210i and 6610i soon with bluetooth module soon. This is another nokia strategy. Hahaha...
Posted by Johan
Where have you heard these rumors?
Posted by billy
Nothing impossible with NOKIA!
Posted by DmX
i noticed that the 6610 have four way joystick which the 7210 dont!!
Posted by orange
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Either of these phones don't have joystick. However both of these phones have four-way navigation.
Posted by Johan
It doesnt have any joystick at all .. but it has a four way keypad, wich the 7210 has also, with the differance that they dont look the same!
Posted by johnnie
Nokia has only the brand the best is
Posted by caff
Hate the nokia when they change the cover and call it a new model !!!!!!!!! Come on.........its so boring !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Johan
What about T68 and T68I then? .. same shit different cover!!
Posted by caff
The reason for T68m and T68i is beacause when they release the T68m last October, the MMS service still no operator support, so they come out with the software without MMS and other features, then this March, after MMS is commercially released, Sony Ericsson instead of upgrade all the esiting T68m phones, they launching a new T68i with MMS and other cool features ...........with sure will help with the sales as well. But if you look at nokia, 8310, 6510 are almost the same except the cover, 7210 and 6610 are same except cover , and this 6100 also look the much the same as their 3G phone (can't remember their model name as they are so confusing )..............Nokia, no innovation at all !!!!!!!!
Posted by Johan
"Nokia, no innovation at all !!!!!!!!"
Why not make a comparison between Nokia and Ericsson when it comes to number of relased phones in different target groups..
How much is happening at the Ericsson front now?.. Nothing!, everybody is waiting for the P800
Nokia has released a lot more phones and still has more to come.. thats what i call innovative!
And what about R600 - T200?
T66 - T600??, i would call these practicly the same phones!!
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T200 != R600. Not the same at all. T200 shares more similarities with T65 but it's smaller.
Posted by kenski
Which öf the 2 is more expensive?
Posted by kenski
@johan, yup nokia realeses so many fones! And they have duped many w their strategy, if you analyze a little most of their fones differ only on the outside and the worst thing is they like removing some features the next time they release a new mode!take a look at the 7210!no bluetooth at all.
Posted by Johan
Well .. how many acyually uses bluetooth?
I would bet that about 5 percent MAX!, really utilises the bluetoothfunction.
Posted by orange
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Actually the reason was that they didn't get the MMS software ready when they were supposed to release the phone. MMS software wasn't even ready when they released it. All this crap that there wasn't any services ready was just a cover story.
Posted by NokiaKilla
6610 is 7210
Then:
3310 is 3315
3330 is 3350
5110 is 5110i
6110 is 6150
6210 is 6250
8210 is 8250
6510 is 8310
8850 is 8890
what else :?
I agree they release a lot of phone. A lot of S@#$^d phone
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Posted by Informer
Jahan, the thing about Nokia and SE is brand image.
If you have any friends you probably have had the chance to mingle with other people and you may have noticed that almost all stupid people have nokia. Nokia probably have a 90% marketshare in the "stupid people" segment.
Check out yourself, list the 10 most stupid persons you know and you'll find that the majority of them have nokia, at least more than 40% of them.
Naturally, intelligent people who wants to differ them selfs chooses another brand, such as SE.
Same thing applies on e.g. music, stupid people tend to check out MTV in order to learn what music and artists they should like, because they can't decide for themselfs.
I call these people stupid because they are unable to have an oppinion of their own. There may be a better label for them.
If everyone was arguing like you, there wouldn't be any development at all. "How many uses Bluetooth.. 5% max.." etc. You probably said the same thing 10 years ago about mobile phones; "mobiles are just for businessmen and such professionals.. normal everyday people will never buy or have any use of them..".
From the very firts mobile phone to 1997, Ericsson was the marketshare leader then Nokia took over the position. Let me tell you, Nokia wouldn't even exist without Ericsson.
So, luckily there are pioneers and frontrunners, like most of the esato visitors, and there are companies like Ericsson and SE, who drives development of things you can't understand, today it's Bluetooth, 10 years ago it was mobile phones. Then a couple of years from now, "stupid" people can (while watching MTV) utilize the inventions that are developed today, and other companies without technology creativeness can "steal" the technology and make their own products.
But we don't mind, companies like SE will come up with some new invention (an invention you won't understand) which we pioneers can buy and use, and the procedure will go on.
Posted by pooass
Informer:
Talking about stupid people...
YOU are so stupid that you don't realise that 40% YOUR stupid friedns have nokia, because nokia has almost that high market share of mobiles.
YOU seem to be even so stupid that you think SE has invented bluetooth...or any other major mobile industry invetion. Please, name even one major invention by SE.
And the stupidest of all, SE isn't pioneering anything. They even are copying their design from Nokia. ( as are most other manufacturers ).
You must have done very extensive study about correlation of stupidness, mobile phones and TV watching. I'm eagerly waiting for you to publish your results in some scientific publication...
...like that would ever happen with your IQ.
Posted by Informer
pooass, I suspected that Nokia was overrepresented amongst stupid people.
So I listed (just for fun) the 10 most stupid people I know and 8 of them had Nokia.
I asked some of my friends to do the same thing, and they all got simular result.
I find it quite interesting, that Nokia have 40% marketshare, but seems to have 80% in the "stupid people" segment.
That means that they must have much less than 40% in other comparable segments such as "intelligent people" segment.
I don't say that people who have nokia are stupid, but that stupid people have nokia. That's a big and important difference!
Ericsson is the inventor of Bluetooth and owns the trademark. This was settled before the joint venture with Sony.
Approx. 2/3 of SE employees are former Ericsson employees.
Since SE is 50% owned by Ericsson, they still are partly Ericsson emplyees. Hence the spirit of Ericsson and the heritage of its inventions are transformed into SE.
The world's first commercial mobile system network was built in Saudi Arabia by Ericsson in 1981.
If you have any knowledge of telecom companies histories and are able to compare their histories, you'll find that Ericsson has a very impressive, rich and valueable history and culture based upon technology and inventions, a pure telecom history that's more than 125 years old.
You ought to get the "The Ericsson Chronicle: 125 Years in Telecommunications", its a 479 pages book available at amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/9177364643/qid%3D1034246136/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-3160035-6060744#product-details
Regarding design, you're the first one the say that SE is copying Nokia design! The T300 and T100 (which are the first "real" SE phones) have a very unique design, there's been a lot of discussions regarding this new SE design here on esato, some like it some hate it, but one thing is for sure: it's definitely not a copy of any competitor's design!
Nokia is very good at commercialise what they do, but Ericsson stands for technology and invention, just face it.
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Posted by sonyericsson
Nokia helpdesk themselves!
I am so shock but at their business point of view, they have the right to do that because this type of IRDA can really make network operator happy
for we will have to use their GPRS more often.
hm...I wonder...
Posted by orange
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How many times we have to say that both, 6610 & 7210, has irDA and are capable of receiving images and ringingtones via irDA. Am I clear enough??
Posted by Johan
I must admit that it was a real laugh, reading Informers "scientific study"
Very interesting!. please tell me when you get these numbers and data officially confirmed. LOL!
Posted by andyme
Hello alll,
This is andy from CYPRUS, i need to know where i can get the bets price for the nokia 7650 and 7210 new unlocked.
Posted by jb
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That's rather harsh to say but I fear you might be on to something. I'm studying at a technical college, and actually ericsson/sony ericsson is more common there than anything else.
Btw, I like your way of wording things.
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Let's stop and think shall we?
What is the reason bluetooth is not being used?
- There aren't enough devices!
Having bluetooth is like being able to speak chinese when no one else is, there's not much use for it. You can think of it as having a GSM-phone in japan. Conclusion: there needs to be more bluetooth devices in the world.
There are two choices for the handset-maker:
1) Do the right thing for the industry, i.e. make/promote new technology
2) Do the right thing for the company, i.e. maximize profits - nokia's strategy. In their case this means make new cover-designs and trim costs
If I were a business manager I'd choose 2.
But I am a consumer and I try act rationally, so I buy the phone that gives me the most utility/price. Hence, I don't use nokia.
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