Posted by OluYom
While I have only ever played with one WM device, I have seen enough specs and reviews to say that there is a wide range of differentiation in features, performance and capabilities. No, they are not all the same. I bet that someone not used to Symbian s60 can also easilly say that all s60 devices are essentially the same - and be right in a sense, and absolutely wrong in another.
Unfortunately, the often absurd pricing of WM and Palm products will likely keep me from ever purchasing one of them. For much less, I can always pick a Symbian device that is just as (if not more) capable as any WM/Palm device.
Posted by brym!
Concerning BlackBerries, I browsed the net with one for about an hour today. I observed that it often went for mobile versions of most sites. The owner believes it is an MTN restriction to reduce data traffic since subcribers have unlimited data ceiling after paying the N5,000 monthly rental.
So this confirms that while Glo BB has a data traffic ceiling of 10 MB, MTN doesn't. But can Glo's BB browser access all sites? That's research for another day.
Happy weekend, all.
Posted by abubakar
@ adrusa: the adobe photoshop on my computer is ripping at the seams with photos. There is hardly a day that i dont take a photo or a video of my son doing something crazy. Other times if i see a good nature shot like the sun rise i posted a few months back i snap away. I should have at least 3000 phone pics on my pc and backed up on discs. This ranges from photos taken with my t68i, t630, s700, p900 and my p990.
Posted by ambyzown
Talking about WM phones, if rumours are anything to go by, SonyEricsson plan to announce a WM device in Q1 of 2008. Maybe that way, prices of WM based phones will become affordable.
Plus there's quite an array of phones to be announced on November 15th including the P3i
Yummy!!!
Posted by OluYom
A WM-based Sony Ericsson? That sounds like treason against Symbian. And can we be sure the result will be lower prices? Moto played with WM and I am not sure the Qs are as affordable as the average Symbian device.
Posted by adrusa
I have what i could say was a long time relationship with windows mobile. I owned in order xda (the first wm phone), xda 2, xda 2i, pda2k, hp 1615 (first ipaq with phone), imate k-jam. They often have hardware specs that truly look different and sound exciting to tech loving newbies.
I maintain my assertion about their being good pda and lousy phones. And about the interface, I maintain that there are no brand specific differentiation between say HTC, E-ten or Asus devices. Even icons are the same!
I know it is difficult to persuade people to stop loving their gadgets, but when I shelled out 140k to buy e90 knowing fully well that I can buy 2 or 3 good wm devices with this money, I was drawing on my long time experience and association with wm. Trust me on this, one day, the wow factor will wear off and if you really need a good converged device (as opposed to a toy to thrill your friends), you will move away from wm to more serious things.
SE and even Nokia can and probably should do wm to satisfy people who want it. One problem with wm is that it is not supported by people who have real experience and expertise in phone making. Maybe Nokia's incursion into wm realm can bring a good phone out of this good pda os.
Posted by brym!
Earlier this year, the rumour was that SE and HTC may merge. A couple of months back, a trusted Chinese newspaper hinted that SE asked HTC to build it one million OEM units of an unspecified model.
It seems so unlikely that SE will partner with HTC (WM largest licensee) not after SE and Nokia snubbed Microsoft years ago when MS was learning the ropes of cell phone business. The fear of Nokia, SE and a couple of other manufacturers was that given the financial base of MS, it might later monopolise smartphone OS market as it did PCs.
MS partnered Sendo to learn the business, dumped Sendo and gave an uprising HTC its first major license.
SE going WM will be like SE punching Nokia below the belt and that will be a major victory for MS. Well, time will tell if all these are rumours, Q1 is not far off.
Posted by brym!
@adrusa: Generally, brand customizations to core OS interface are little and this not particular to WM devices alone. Check other platforms and you'll agree that relatively, WM customizations are more.
If you are saying WM interface has not changed significantly from PPC 2002 to WM6, I agree with you. This is glaring when compared to improvements in Symbian devices. But have you observed that other platforms are adopting the "dull" WM Today(stanby) screen where messages, appointments,tasks are easily accessed?
Today, the iPhone interface is currently influencing improvements in interface in all platforms. New HTC devices now have Touchflo running on WM interface. UIQ users now have Gdesk, a free UI app that has spiced up the UIQ interface. Even Nokia does not want to be left out. So I already see MS reworking WM6 for full touch experience.
This may interest you.
http://blogs.msdn.com/windows[....]7/11/01/shadow-homescreen.aspx
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Posted by OluYom
Adrusa: I agree completely that WM devices are good PDAs and lousy phones (generic-speaking). However, like brym! said, user interfacee differences - even in Symbian or Palm devices - are just as minimal across a wide range of models.
Posted by pxthomas
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Posted by Areafada
On 2007-11-04 21:34:00, pxthomas wrote:
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Let us take chelsea FC for a good Analogy, we ave Micheal Balack, Michel Obi, wright philips, joe cole, Drogba etc on paper It's a match made in heaven but in the field of play they sit 6th on the preimership table the last time i saw the table, conclusion it's not all big bangs on paper that comes out very good in real life.
i want to buy a fone for my wife a SE fone, i'm very sure the SE loyalist will b surprised but i'm beginning to b a SE convert!!!!! Lie Lie Nokia 4 life, it's just that i need a cheap fone that has all the following without tearing a hole in my pocket and that's what SE is very Good for, thumps up for SE on that.
Camera
Bluetooth
speaker function
Infra Red (optional not necessity)
Radio
Music player
flip/slide (Women love this so much)
And the most important very cheap N10-N14k (so when it's misplace or damaged i'll just get another one, the last fone was her 6th fone, yesterday my first daughter poured water on it (R.I.P.), our children drooling colaborated to damage the 5th etc well that what she told me sha,i no fit shout, what can i do i need to get another one now, the life of a man, na wao, God sabi how hin arrange am like that o.
Please Kindly come to my rescue intelligent members of PNF, thank you
Posted by abubakar
@area: what line of salvation are you looking for? If it is from the clutches of nokia fever, then buying the phone for your wife is a good first step. But if its salvation from ur kids slobbering on ur phones, the only solution to that is to pack out of the house until they are of university age! My son's slob killed my adored T630i charging point yday. why kids love the metallic taste of the charging point, i dont know. Its about time they release a portless phone with wireless charging! Read about some prototype ideas on it a few years back.
Posted by OluYom
I escaped the scourge of kids killing phones by making sure that my phones were always out of reach. While they were younger, my phone stayed on shelves and high tables whenever I wasn't using them. And I drummed the message into their ears that dad's phones were out of bounds.
Now, they are a little older, but they stay away from my phones. The brainwashing worked
Why? While they have enough sense not to touch my phone, they are often caught fingering my wife's phones.
Posted by ambyzown
@Area: for the specs you've listed, your best bet will be the K320. Though limited memory may be a minus.
W200 has all u want apart from bluetooth, but has expandable memory.
If you are willing to spend upto 20k you could get the the K750 or W700. But these are all monoblock designs.
For 19k you could also get the Nokia 5200 express music phone, which is a slide phone. 17k will get u a Nokia 6085 flip phone.
Posted by Areafada
@Abu, the salvation or the Solution i'm looking is a CHEAP SE fone btw N10 -14k
Posted by abubakar
@area: LOL! seriously if u want a new release then the phones amby mentioned are best but if you dont mind a 2006 or 2005 release there are a lot to choose from.
Posted by abubakar
@area: LOL! seriously if u want a new release then the phones amby mentioned are best but if you dont mind a 2006 or 2005 release there are a lot to choose from.
@AYA: once my son got to walking there is hardly anywhere he cant reach. Unless i place the phone in my bedroom on top of a wardobe where there isnt anything to use to climb it. recharging the phones are the hard. he'll just yank out the wire and run off laughing!
Posted by Areafada
@Abu "Like Father Like son"
Posted by Areafada
On 2007-11-06 11:03:25, ambyzown wrote:
@Area: for the specs you've listed, your best bet will be the K320. Though limited memory may be a minus.
W200 has all u want apart from bluetooth, but has expandable memory.
If you are willing to spend upto 20k you could get the the K750 or W700. But these are all monoblock designs.
For 19k you could also get the Nokia 5200 express music phone, which is a slide phone. 17k will get u a Nokia 6085 flip phone.
@Ambyzone, Thanks For the advise I'm off to Slot to Buy the E90 (I couldn't wait 4 christmas price slash) and the fones u advised me on
Posted by abubakar
@area: so quick? you can get a k520 (think i got the number right) around ur price range. It has all the prereqs u listed. My wife uses one.
Posted by abubakar
@amby: was online earlier and was looking up ur nokia 5700 vs w910 on the esato site and couldnt find the 5700 in its compare phone section. What is its equivalent?
Posted by ambyzown
@Abu: The closest to the 5700 is the 5300.
Esato isn't very current on phones other than SE. You can also try http://www.gsmarena.com/
Posted by pxthomas
@area. ..my friend take your time oh. You want to acquire E90 and you are buying a cheap phone for madam. Just go and buy Nokia N76 for her. The design is spectacular. Spec is more than average.
Posted by brym!
On 2007-11-06 18:48:00, pxthomas wrote:
@area. ... Nokia N76... The design is spectacular. Spec is more than average.
Spectacular design? haba! I think this is a poor imitation of the Motorola V3 design.
My boss (world's no.1 Nokia 8800 lover) bought the N76 two days ago. It is first N series that didn't thrill me, not worth the 74k he paid.
So I played with it for one more day and I am begining appreciate some subtle finishing that only Nokia can deliver. Nothing innovative though.
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Posted by abubakar
For the past few weeks while watching a few foreign tv shows (NCIS, 24, CSI to mention a few) i keep noticing use of push to talk. That started me thinking will any of our service providers give us this alternative or will they just keep milking us for all we got? On the dubai stations, commercials for 3.5G services keep breaking my heart. When are things going to 180?
Posted by OluYom
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You are not alone on that. I've wondered the same several times. By the time our networks deliver 3G, the rest of the world will once again have moved on about 2 or 3 steps ahead.
Imagine that as I type this, Celtel officially does not have an active GPRS (2.5G!) network in place. Haba.
Did I hear you say 'push-to-talk'? Where? Please forget that one. We'll probably have it only in our dreams - at least for another 4 or 5 years.
Posted by Areafada
Introducing Areafada's E90 i bought it for N120k i took the picture with a N95's camera, also i Bought SE R320 for N12,300 for My wife n I gave her my N95, for her 2nd gsm line i couldn't get a serious buyer for the fone.(with a sticker on the fone "DONT ALLOW OUR CHILDREN TOUCH IT" I doubt if the instruction will b adhered to, but it's better than not telling her, abi?)
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Posted by brym!
Introducing brym!'s N95 8GB...em actually my colleague's. She bought it for 103k and of course techy boy gets to play it. Great features; Nokia at its best! More gist tomorrow when I configure the gprs and try out other features.
@AYA: Better the networks take their time to roll out 3G, so they don't give us some sub standard service. We'll get there! Always 2 steps behind.
Posted by OluYom
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All the other services they took their time to roll out, did we still not end up with sub-standard services? Abeg, talk another one.
Posted by abubakar
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