Posted by brym!
Let us still thank Steve Jobs for the iPhone, at least other manufacturers have taken the challenge to venture into touch screen UI, while some others have improved their existing device interface and overall performace of their phones/devices.
Nokia launched their S60 touch yesterday. You can see the video in the link below if you have a fast or broadband connection:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.co[....]0_Touch_Interface_Launched.php
Another link:
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia[....]i_for_symbian_s60-news-337.php
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Posted by Demmy
@all dnt think d vid call will be dt xpensive. shld be withing d range Aya said he cud pay.
i can do with mopre debates mates
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Posted by Areafada
@all, you guys should stop painting me like a millionaire i only ave two fones a N95 and a very very useless starcomms handset.
@brym, u are a techno internet wizard. It's just a pity u are on the other side of life, (come over to the west side which is the best side).
@all, i suggest that you should be seriously thinking of buying a phone like Nokia N95 that has global postioning system (GPS) in built, so u can located ur exact location in the bush i.e getting lost in the bush in the worst case scenario, since Madam Etthe has refused to vacate her seat. One reason why Nokia is better.
Brym or anybody what makes SE the fone for u?
Posted by coolapostle
PNF Survey results: Oops! Everyone is ready for the 3G party except moi.
Don't you Guys think there will be some kind of activation/subscription via SMS BEFORE y'all can start using the 3G network like we had to do with GPRS?
I also wonder what kind of license was given to Alheri Engr for 3G. I should think the 3G license should have national coverage with roll-out conditions. But for an operator to offer the service in a few cities seems like a waste. But then, the NCC likes dollars....
Posted by OluYom
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I'm not certain what conditions were given to Alheri, but I do know that the Alheri spokesman specifically said that they would be rolling out with several cities. Unless he was playing with words, that doesn't sound like 'a few cities'.
Here's an ongoing 3G sniffing exercise in Lagos
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Posted by brym!
On 2007-10-17 14:00:34, Areafada wrote:
@brym, u are a techno internet wizard.
Thanks for the upgrade, do we call this Upgrade 1.0?
It's just a pity u are on the other side of life, (come over to the west side which is the best side).
In the past one year I have been in several sides of life O! ...Nokia E50, Nokia 9300, HTC Wizard, SE W950i. And I still have my HTC Wizard so that should make me "Area" of some sort. Just hold your side!
@all, i suggest that you should be seriously thinking of buying a phone like Nokia N95 that has global postioning system (GPS) in built, so u can located ur exact location in the bush i.e getting lost in the bush in the worst case scenario, since Madam Etthe has refused to vacate her seat.
You are a true War Lord, armed with Nokia defence systems.
Brym or anybody what makes SE the fone for u?
As I mentioned earlier: the shape, size, weight and price of the W950i, and ah the big "junk in the trunk" memory, 4GB.
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Posted by Areafada
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Posted by blackgig
Hello forum ,when exactly is 3g comming on board
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Posted by OluYom
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Hello blacky; no-one knows for sure. But official word from the operators can be summarised "next few weeks". Personally, I am not convinced that is feasible.
Posted by ambyzown
Sorry guys, these days I dont get to log in as often as I used to, and there have been so many replies since my last post that I would like to respond to. I'm currently working on a drilling rig in Edo state and only have access to gprs when I get back to the city.
First of all, I've inherited an N70 which is a 3g phone, plus my M600i so I guess that means I'm double ready for 3g. But unfortunately, no 3g tags here in Benin.
@Area, Pxt and Brym: Please tell me what you enjoy most from ur Nokia phone that you cannot do better on a less expensive SE model?
apart from certain installable 3rd party applications, a W810 will stand its own against most of the Nseries smartphones.
My w810 has a wonderful camera, an excellent mp3 player, large memory, and a host of very useful java apps (Dictionary, Bible, instant messenger, wireless print software, photo editor, file encrypter, rss news reader) it also has a bluetooth remote control which I use to control my media player and powerpoint presentations. I've configured my email client to d/l my mails every hour, so feature wise, this phone is loaded. My preference for SE is based on the intuitive nature of the OS, I find what I need where I expect to find it. The phone predicts my next move. for instance when typing text, if I select the 'open bracket' symbol, SE knows that the next thing will be to close the bracket after the required text has ben input, but not nokia. Also when entering names in contacts, SE know that names are proper nouns and so capitalises them after a space, but not nokia. why would I need an application to transfer contacts via bluetooth? do u need one to transfer photos? Yes SE has issues with UIQ3 but that doesn't make its java models any less capable. Aya is happy with his E61i very good, but I will not be caught dead holding a saucer to my ears. He was once this happy with a p910i and will be with a future SE model.
Lets be objective and not sentimental about our judgements. If S60 is stable, well so is Java. UIQ3 hasn't totally failed, Motorola has succeeded with it, and now SE has done the needful by selling part of its stake in UIQ to moto. lets see what they make of it.
I say SE is more innovative than nokia.
Proof:
SE pioneered the smartphone with the R380
SE pioneered the touchscreen UI with the R380
SE pioneered the online software update service
SE pioneered musicphones with the walkman series
I could go on, but I wont.
I don't hate Nokias, I only prefer SE.
Like Angel said, I live on the Sony side of life
Alhieri Engineering is in talks to acquire Intercellular. If that deal sails through, it will settle their carrier problem and instantly give them four cities to launch their 3g services.
Is there a 3g non-smartphone Nokia model available on the market?
Posted by mariwun
erm actualy nokia had an oldskol mp3 "green light" phone way b4 walkman dreamed of starting
Posted by abubakar
VOLLEY OF INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILES FROM AIR MARSHAL AMBY OF THE SE REPUBLICAN GUARD!!!!
2 days absence from here, see as they are firing me! This reply go long! I pray my battery holds out.
@area: how can u talk about painting someone after u painted me with "end of discussion" and P1!! Na so dis kin gist bring armed robbers to my house last yr! Anyhow, in ur pro-nokia monologue u didnt mention the "cheap good" nokia phones. Or in its absence, cheap bad ones. Or in its absence expensive bad ones. Are there any expensive good ones?
@aya: na lie! All that ur gist was ifizi! If u are so practical in ur expenditure, u would know as someone rightly stated earlier (sorry i forgot who!!) that it maybe easier to get some msgs across via video calls. And the fact u rarely use mms which u must still be getting some free ones shows you dont take advantage of the format. Rather than call or text my bro, for example, its easier and cheaper to send a mms video or recording, which he usually replies in kind. A very long text is usually also sent by mms. But still, for clarity sake, if ur the price differential was 3-5 bucks over the normal voice tariff u still wont use it for normal calls, now and then, with no special need for it?Come on! The price difference is small. Most pay much more of a difference when neglecting to make a "on-net" call consciencly. This question goes out to everyone else too.
PS: Was it a mental note u made that 3G registry or did u go thru the thread? (or scarier, do u have ur own record
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@adrusa: dont knock video calls cos they ddnt become a fad elsewhere. Remember, the nigerian is a funny animal! We too like to pose! Elsewhere in the "developed" world, u see dollar millionaires sending text msgs (how britney spears got in trouble textn while driving). But we here have a stigma against textn, like its for the "under class". Isnt that how the whole "mobile phones are not for the masses" came about in the 090 era? The "status symbol" effect of the vid calls should get a good customer base IF its priced and placed well.
With regards to Alheri, unless they are ready to make very heavy long term investments in equipment with very negligible returns in the short term, thier 3G rollout has got to be compact and precise. No putting it up in MDs village on launch!
Posted by OluYom
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Assuming I need to send those kind of messages at all! And I don't. To put it straight again, an email will get those sort of messages across cheaper, and with greater certainty, simply because MMS is billed in blocks i.e. Messages below xkb cost this and messages between x and ykb cost that.
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I don't send MMS at all. I tried it out when it was introduced and have found no real use for it.
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That one na lie!
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You have no access to information on my telephone habits, and so you are just shooting in the dark. This sermon may be needed by others, but believe me when I say its a waste on me.
So you are asking me to spend an extra N3-5 per minute just to see someone's face even if I do not NEED to see that face?
MMS schmit; video calls schmit.
Posted by coolapostle
@All From AYA's 3G sniffing exercise, it seems Glo's 3G will have better coverage in Laogs. It's been awhile since someone shouted... Up Glo!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by abubakar
Forget about a SE NOKIA WAR. AYAhas just launched a QUOTE WAR!!
But in order to keep it simple and keep down download cost i'll refrain from any quotes. But i will say:
- you currently have multiple free MMSs on ur phone that not only give delivery reports but also read reports. I have never sent an MMS that just disappeared without a trace. The only delay i have gotten was either i ddnt have gprs to send it on time or the recipient ddnt have it to receive it on time.
-dont misquote me out of context. Let me rephrase: WHEN I HAVE A LONG TEXT TO SEND TO MY BRO I SOMETIMES SEND IT AS A MMS INSTEAD. If u like still say na lie!!
-i dont know ur phone usage, but unless you have the title of nigeria's most prudent person, u wouldnt mind spending a little now and then. Its human nature. Any how, if they do rollout with and if the differential is small, we shall see who will be the one to eat his words (literally, on the vid call screen!!!)
Think i have exceeded my quota on this thread for this week!
Posted by brym!
This SE v Nokia war is getting interesting, let me supply more ammunition:
Mobile Review seems to be the only site that provides detailed info on proprietary software of these the phone manufacturers.
Warning: These are long reviews with images, so use a PC if you are cost-conscious.
For review of Nokia's new proprietary S40 software features:
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/s405thedition-en.shtml
For review of SE's latest proprietary software called A200:
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/a200-se-en.shtml
For a comparison of the previous editions of both softwares:
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/k800vs6233-en.shtml
So read up, form your opinions and ATTTTTAAAACCCKKKK.
For me, I rest my case.
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Posted by coolapostle
I am beginning to get confused here. Are U Guys arguing whether 3G will be a hit even before the 3G roll-out? Or whether AYA will ever need to send a video call? He says he won't need it. (But I am sure he will try it
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Anyway, the most interesting feature for me IS the video calls. Remember that Glo Fixed will soon bring Broadband to the masses. I expect a rush by Starcomms and Multilinks to protect their markets. So I don't expect my GSM phone to become my primary means of getting really fast internet connections. Except of course for video calls.
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Posted by OluYom
@Cooapostle: You are right on that; I will certainly play with it a little for the first week or two; maybe even call Abubakar to see what he really looks like.
@Angelgirl: I love your blank posts!
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Posted by Areafada
@brym I must say I'm impressed with your research and findings, ok advise me then, i need a fone with standard QWERTY keybord a, very large screen around 640 x 200, multi media & radio player, 5 megapixel or more camera, long battery life this N95 battery life is crap ok advise me. and every standard smart fone thing in between.
Posted by Angelgirl
Oga brym welldone o where u dey go, never rest ur case o, ready to be the referree! @all, was trying to post on my way home but network was messing up, couldnt resist checking the lastest, the house is getting hotter than ETTEH's own, anyway sha i be observer!
Posted by brym!
@Area: I doubt if any phone meets those criteria but take away the 5mp camera requirement and the E90 stands out. We already know that the E90 is the next natural choice for you.
Don't disappoint us O!
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I did not quote you out of context. Don't cry wolf over the fact that you did not express yourself clearly. Saying that a long SMS is usually sent by MMS sounds like the network (not you) sends a concatenated SMS via MMS. Which is bollocks. Your rephrase is much clearer, thank you.
Still on MMS, I wonder what you do if the other fellow does not have an MMS phone, for example?
Anyway, in my case, the only person I send a lot of text messages to (say 5-20 per day), between us we use Cellity, a java app that sends messages via GPRS. A 2048-character message, for example, via Celtel GPRS costs me only - let's see - 20 kobo. A 160-character message costs way less than 2 kobo via Cellity.
Make fun of prudence all you want. How I use my phone is my business. I'm wondering why that gets you uptight. Like I did with MMS, I'll play with the video calls thing a while. Mobility is my line of work, so I need to have at least used it to have some first hand knowledge. But don't hold your breath about me using it for my regular communications.
I am not your average mindless Nigerian. Now, if you have something else more important to do besides mocking (and a poor attempt at that too)someone else's phone usage preferences, please get on with it.
@all: Is that Nokia-SE war still on? My Shawarma's all frozen stiff now!
Posted by pxthomas
@Amby ... Can we honestly compare the versatility of Nokia to SE? You mentioned those java apps you use on your W810i to achieve daily stuff, well my N71 is java capable plus s60 3rd ed apps. There is this apps that i like so much, the name is Interactive voice call master. I don't know if it is available for UIQ's i would have asked you to try it on your M600i.
Posted by Areafada
On 2007-10-18 22:49:04, brym! wrote:
@Area: I doubt if any phone meets those criteria but take away the 5mp camera requirement and the E90 stands out. We already know that the E90 is the next natural choice for you.
@brym & All, That question i asked u was actual a trick question, to show all that when it comes to packaging Nobody comes near to Nokia and Unfortunately that's what most consumer look at for b4 or when buying their fones.
The finished product (i.e packaging) is what makes Nokia a world leader in handset, assuming in a social gathering, i introduce a N93 (multi swivel head) and a better fone SE P990, more people will respect the N93 over the P990 (execpt guys like us who knows what's in the P990) and this is what makes Nokia Stand out, also with larger consumer base equals easier free software which is an added advantage for good fone users, just imagine a software company designing a soft ware and he doesn't consider Microsoft Windows Operating system, your guess is as good as mine where the software is heading.
My Lord (Angel girl) Without mixing words, this is where i rest my case in the SE and Others fones vs Nokia fones.
over to you.
Posted by OluYom
Who's keeping the score? Brym, how far? What's the scoreboard looking like at this point? I'm tempted, but I won't jump in because I'd throw in points for and against both sides of the argument. Not good for a brand war.
Posted by ambyzown
On 2007-10-19 12:12:00, pxthomas wrote:
@Amby ... Can we honestly compare the versatility of Nokia to SE? You mentioned those java apps you use on your W810i to achieve daily stuff, well my N71 is java capable plus s60 3rd ed apps. There is this apps that i like so much, the name is Interactive voice call master. I don't know if it is available for UIQ's i would have asked you to try it on your M600i.
You still haven't told us what this application does and how it increases ur productivity.
@areafada: don't disappoint me. thats a very weak attempt at selling ur brand to me. do u know how much ur e90 costs? don't u realise that pricing is what makes se so appealing? u need 2 see the reaction I get whenever I whip out my sleek white m600i, and it only cost me N30k
Posted by Angelgirl
WOW! i think SE is taking the lead so far, this is getting interesting
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Posted by mariwun
3rd party apps coming to iphone in febuary...hmmmm at the opposition ur major arguement just went down the drain....and honestly..everyone knows nokia is better than SE...the same way microsoft is better than apple(vista vs OSX)...but each camp has fans
Posted by pxthomas
@Amby...The price of Nokia phones is one of the things i have against them. I still have my SE W800i and i am waiting to see how W960 will be b/4 upgrading
Posted by chuksy
I've used both Nokia and SE,but in my opinion i think SE has an edge.Its not about churning out phones every other week,but bringing out top class phones.
Posted by OluYom
Here's some information (cold, hard facts) that may help fuel the SE vs Nokia war: Nokia's global market share climbs to 39%
Posted by ambyzown
This isn't meant to be a war b/w se and nokia. agreed nokia sell better than se, but the majority of their sales are in the low end category. se only just realised that. of course nokia makes some very good phones like the e61 and the n95, but it doesn't take away the fact that there are some excellent se phones out there too. this nokia vs se argument started when I didn't get satisfaction from a nokia phone, a satisfaction se has given me. for this reason I choose se. Aya has found the same satisfaction in a nokia just as Mariwun has with his iphone.
I hope u understand what I'm driving at. everyone is entitled to their opinions about which company makes the better phone.
3g check: got into lag this morning. at the airport, both glo and celtel have the 3g label on my
phone, but only glo shows 3g at gbagada where I live. glo obviously has a wider 3g coverage here in lag. can't wait to try out free 3g browsing.
Posted by OluYom
Finally, Ambyzown joins me! Welcome, my guy. One less gladiator in the war. As I've said, its a pointless war. Yab a brand all you like, and someone out there will give you sound, valid reasons why that brand meets his need.
@amby: I have a warm, fresh shawarma here, and an empty sit in the spectators' box, if you please.
Posted by brym!
@AYA: You want to share sharwama with someone who called your E61i a saucer? Na wa.
Well, if you don't mind, please serve my portion of that sharwama with ...em your saucer!
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Posted by OluYom
@brym: Anyone is free to call any phone by any monicker. It means absolutely nothing to me, so far as the phone does well what it is advertised to do. You deserve a shawarma too anyway. Hop on a stool while I place an order for yours.
Posted by abubakar
@aya: wasnt mocking u, dont be a cry baby.
@ALL: Repeating a point i made during the last nokia SE war(that was about a yr ago) the only real index for measuring the 2 companies' phones is to pair up phones in the same price range then compare specs. If i had pc access to the net, i would have tabled out a few. Im sure amby could do us the honours!
Posted by chuksy
Lets put a stop to all these rantings and ravings about se and nokia and which is better,and lets change the subject-haba.How about the Iphone....has any of u got a glimpse of it over there in Naija?.Its soon to be released here in the uk in about 3 weeks time.
I might play with it but dont have the intention of geting one.
Posted by abubakar
@chuks: believe me, se nokia gist is better than iphone. The iphone had too much hype in the launch and too much flop once it rolled out. But any iphone enthusiasts can post up pointers for it. Maybe they will be able to convince some of us to pick one up.
@ALL: who has an insider in mtn, glo or celtel that can give us real insight in thier 3g ambitions?
Posted by dapsycool
I'm back everyone, just kinda busy, my wives and kids gotta eat(na joke o).
Anyway my celtel is browsing free, why? I dont know. And if you sent me a message concerning the mtn free browsing i'll get back to you today and post other info here cos i'm too lazy typing dis days. I'll post some links here for everyone and tell u what to do with it in pm. For those using an average phone like me(6230i), there is a new opera mini mod 2.05, its cool. Another java browser is ucweb which allows you to upload, java script e.t.c, Also heard of Teashark though i've deleted it on my phone.
Brb with the links
Posted by dapsycool
These are the links..
For football lovers, premiership, transfer gossips
news.bbc.co.uk/mobile/bbc_sport/football/index.wml?
For your rss feeds and yahoo mail, after you've gone to flurry.com to register, i love this one
wap.flurry.com/mobile/login.do;jsessionid=1231ipr07jltb
For esato, though i'll post a better link later, manage this for now
wap.esato.com/board/wap.php#esato
To browse any web address use
wap.google.com/gwt/n
Other info will follow later, i once called free with mtn but the hacker runs a business centre so i couldn't reveal the trick, but it's being blocked anyway but expect more goodies as soon as i find them
Blue is the Colour, Chelsea is the Name...Ciao
Posted by dapsycool
if you also wanna download anything free with mtn just tell me the stuff i'll give u a direct link to download it free, but it mustn't be jad file, jar/mp3/3gp/themes are acceptable, you can tell me where the stuff is to make it easier for me
Posted by OluYom
On 2007-10-22 19:24:30, dapsycool wrote:
Anyway my celtel is browsing free
So's mine since earlier on today - and a Godsend too!
Posted by abubakar
@dapsy: welcome back.... But dont only remember us during awoof periods.
@amby: what is the min usage on celtels post paid? Im considering switching over to them as im getting tired of mtn's erratic and expensive gprs.
P990 UPDATE:
What kind of speeds do SE require for thier update service. Was at a friend's cafe and tapped into his wifi hotspot but i still couldnt make an update after an hour! His system wasnt loaded so it could be local bandwidth. Who has done it and how long did it take?
Posted by brym!
@abu: I updated my W950 firmware earlier this month. It took about 35 to 40 minutes on an average speed broadband connection at the office. After downloading the software I hesitated for about 5 minutes before proceeding with the update proper which lasted 18 to 20 minutes.
As I stated sometime ago the only improvement is this misplaced question mark that shows up everytime I press the return key on the virtual keyboard. Funny thing only shows up after I submit my post.
This is my second experience updating; my first was in 2004 when I updated my K700 firmware in a cyber cafe with very fast broadband connection. Again, improvements were minimal. Not worth the effort put into it. So, abu you may be better off without an update.
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Posted by blackgig
@dapsycool.pls i need direct links to download "Fexplorer 1.16b for 3rd edition nokia.u can find it @gosymbian.com.where can i update d firmware of my nokia 5700 & wat does one need to tap into a wifi hotspot?thnx in advance
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Posted by Angelgirl
I thought i was the only one browsing celtel for free since saturday night.
I dont think their cc knows anything about their gprs connections, i called them to configure a colleague's phone, they said their gprs is down, when i told them that mine is working, they said they will not be held responsible for any charges on my credit, well i didnt tell them that i was browsing for free!
Posted by pxthomas
@dapsy... Oh boy na wah oh. You just appear and disappear at will. Anyway, welcome. Drop any goodies that you have for us. Thanks