Posted by brym!
Following this report by Punch newspaper, 3G roll out is not far off, probably this quarter.
?http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art200710110555117
Posted by mariwun
@ AYA i have to fault you on 2 things..the entry is in no way cramped..touchscreen qwerty with large buttons is much better than p990i tiny qwerty buttons. and about the compressing of data..the iphone was not made with nigerua in mind...its not apples fault that mere gprs cost a fortune..for thier wider mkt(wich i doubt countries like nigeria with poor services will make up to 1%)...they dont have rip off gprs cost..most have unlimited data plans available so technically lack of opera is not a problem...for those without gprs or egde is still very available..so the 2 points really dont knock the iphone from bein a smartphone...bout the 3rd party apps..ur spot on for that..but no phone is perfect...and apparently something is in the works officialy by apple..although u can hack(which is not that hard) your iphone to put 3rd party apps on it(limited to a few)
Posted by ambyzown
I am directing this post at the diehard Nokia loyalists on this forum.
My boss's wife just got an E65 and I had to transfer contacts from her old N70. She had no computer and no data cables so backing up via pc was not an option. I proceeded to mark all entries in the phonebook and send via BT. I couldn't believe my eyes as the Nokia connection began to send the contacts one by one via 736 text messages. I was thus forced to open each one in order 2 save them. Each text took approx 7seconds to open & 2secs 2 save. this same operation on an SE would take 1mim & 1 text. someone pls tell me what makes these phones smart?
Posted by brym!
@amby: Haba! New nokia phones including the E and N series have an advanced data tranfer facility that tranfers contacts through bluetooth. I've used it several times to move contacts en bloc ftom one nokia phone to another. And it is fast. Read the E65 manual.
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Posted by abubakar
@mariwun: knowing how clumsy a touchscreen is when using ur hand (not a stylus) im wondering how "big" the qwerty keyboard would be on the iphone. I have no problems using rhe P990's keyboard. Its way faster than any other method of text input i have ever used. I gotta go online and see if there is any footage of someone typing on the iphone. The curvature on the p990's keyboard makes it small but less clumsy.
I tried out the gdesk but wasnt too wowwed over it. Maybe if i try out some of the add-ons i'd be more impressed.
Barka da Sallah every1!
Posted by brym!
On 2007-10-12 01:28:49, abubakar wrote:
I tried out the gdesk but wasnt too wowwed over it. Maybe if i try out some of the add-ons i'd be more impressed.
?Don't mind me, I am a freak for themes and UI enhancements. That is how I discovered Esato in 2003...looking for themes and screensavers for my SE T310.
Posted by OluYom
@mariwun: As Abubakar has said, typing on the iPhone is not the best. Many users and reviewers have compared text input on the iPhone with other proper smartphones, and if fell short consistently.
For example, between the iPhone, the W950 and the E61i, the iPhone returned the slowest times, and the E61i the fastest. The hen-pecking style text input on the iPhone cannot return any better results.
As for the iPhone being a smartphone; no it is not. It is a very good feature phone, but certainly not a smartphone. Installable 3rd party applications is a core characteristic of smartphones. The iPhone fails there.
The iPhone is good as a mass market device with appeal and does well in that department. It is good for accessing data e.g. Web browsing. A proper smartphone does far more than that and is more for creating/producing.
I am typing this rather long post on my E61i and in just a few moments. Try typing it on the iPhone and you get the idea. I have applications installed on the E61i that makes it a computing powerhouse that the iPhone can only pretend to be in its dreams but will never be, simply because its extensibility is next to zero.
The iPhone may meet your personal needs, and I have no foundation on which to say that it does not. The iPhone may have a great user-interface, and I daresay that only a pretender will say it does not. But the iPhone is not a smartphone and delivers less productivity than ANY true smartphone does.
Posted by pxthomas
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Posted by mariwun
there a tranfer application that does it in the tools folder..dont know if n70 has it though..but u can mark what you want to tranfer and it tranfers it to the new fone and automatically stores it
Posted by abubakar
@brym: thats what brought me here too. For my T630. I was stumped (an still am) that no themes for S700 wasnt (and i think still isnt) available on esato. Nearly finished a few that i was gonna post up but then issues of copyright stopped me. (it was football club logos)
Eid Mubarack!
Posted by 234hay
@ all: Does anyone know any other Java apps I can install on my w950 besides Opera mini (obviously)?
Posted by chuksy
There are over a hundred applications out there for ur phone.....shine ur eye
Posted by coolapostle
@all From the Punch article, it seems Dangote's Alheri Engineering will also roll out 3G. Are they going to be a Virtual Operator? Can a network start from scratch and build a 3G network? Only in 9ja!
Posted by 234hay
Like I said,does anyone know useful java apps I can install on my W950i.
Posted by OluYom
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Nothing new, really. 3 (a pure 3G network) did it in the UK. Abeg make Alheri hurry up! I'll pick a SIM if the price is right. I've been so hungry for mobile broadband....
Posted by abubakar
@234h: it really depends on ur interests and how much u r willing to drop from ur wallet in gprs charges (in cases of its need for linking online) in the days of awoof gprs one of my favs were bluepulse. Since then i have seen quite a few good IM apps but lack of awoof gprs+ high gprs rates do not allow me to check them out thoroughly. Go to getjar.com when u are online with a pc and see what picks ur interest.
@coola: there is everychance they would just pickout high density areas in abj, port and lag to offer thier services. If they do rollout to anywhere outside that range they'll have to give good enough tariffs to make us buy a new phone for it (or at least drop a sim card in its stead!) to ay's delight.
@aya: what is ur make or break prices for simcard, tariffs etc u'd be willing to pay for the 3g experience?
Posted by OluYom
Abubakar: I prefer a flat monthly data plan and I'm willing to pay up to N15,000 per month for unlimited access e.g. Eat-all-you-can.
Voice tariffs, of course, shouldn't differ from what obtains on ground with the others.
Posted by ambyzown
On 2007-10-12 18:39:55, mariwun wrote:
there a tranfer application that does it in the tools folder..
I already tried that, but after pairing both devices, the E65 could not accept the transfer. Error message was 'Datamover.sis not supported.' You would think that the E65 being a business phone would be easy to use, but no. nokia is way behind SE when it comes to innovation, and functionality, Period.
Posted by brym!
On 2007-10-14 09:24:48, ambyzown wrote:
You would think that the E65 being a business phone would be easy to use, but no. nokia is way behind SE when it comes to innovation, and functionality, Period.
?The die is cast. Nokia War Lords, will this yabis go without reply?
Posted by OluYom
Engaging in this sort of war is fruitless. There are more than enough points each side could throw at the other in an endless exchange of jibes.
Not worth it.
Posted by brym!
That was a quick and mature reply from the Chief of Staff of E series. Can we hear from the Chief of Staff of N series(Area) and his 2IC(pxt)?
Posted by pxthomas
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i am still a sony ericsson man anyway and just as you mentioned i stumbled onto esato looking for themes for my k700i
@Amby...I think the problem you are having with the transfer is as result of a difference in platform. I will give NOKIA a call maybe they can get a small java app to do the trick.
@234hay... Oh boy there are more than enough java apps. Just google the internet. One good java app is Go-Bible Kjv. There are also Gmail, migg33plus, flurrymail etc. Wait, here is a good site: www.getjar.com.
Posted by OluYom
@brym!: Until tonight, I wasn't aware that I was Chief of Staff of anything! What happened to the perks of the office?
Posted by brym!
@pxt: You are a true niger-delta war lord (sorry, I meant nokia war lord).
. About time you overthrow Area, he's always AWOL.
@AYA: perks ko, pecks ni!
@amby: I'm surprised you got that response from the E65 because I've used that feature to move contacts from an N73 smartphone to a 8800 sirocco(a s40 phone). Why would Nokia remove the feature from the E65 beats me.
?My two cents: Nokia has since caught up with SE and gone beyond...just look at the variety and stability of s60 smartphones. Even SE diehards are admiting that SE's UIQ is dying and are writing a letter to the new CEO of SE to save the platform.
In regular phones Nokia S40 phones are into their 4th interface review, SE is going to their third.
Boy! SE has lost it, they slept!
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Posted by OluYom
Probably time to grab a Coke and a Shawarma and enjoy the duel....
Posted by adrusa
I think MTN's 3G network is live in some cities only waiting for activation. In Ibadan where I live, I have connected to the 3G network over the past few days and I can say it is more stable than their 2g network, though video phone and internet are not working yet, but my p990i, nokia 6630 and e90 clearly showed that I'm connected to a 3G network.
How to know? Go to your phone network selection and select manual instaed of automatic. Your phone should indicate the presence of MTN-NG 3G in addition to MTN-NG and other networks. Please, let us know where and where the 3G networks are ready.
For Ibadan, MTN ready, Glo, Celtel, Mtel, Al-Heri, not ready.
Posted by OluYom
Adrusa: You may be mistaken there. Simply selecting 3G in network settings displays the '3G' icon on the standby display. This does not indicate a 3G presence, but simply that the phone is in 3G mode.
That you have not been able to connect with it also reinforces this.
I just popped in my MTN SIM and left my E61i in dual mode i.e. active on both GSM & UMTS networks - no indication of a 3G signal, yet it should indicate if indeed a 3G signal is present. When I manually selected 3G/UMTS instead of GSM, the '3G' icon showed up. I couldn't connect either.
This same scenario is what plays when I have a Celtel or Glo SIM too.
Posted by coolapostle
On 2007-10-15 14:11:51, adrusa wrote:
Your phone should indicate the presence of MTN-NG 3G in addition to MTN-NG and other networks.
Wait o! Will the 3G network be a SEPERATE network???
Posted by Areafada
On 2007-10-14 09:24:48, ambyzown wrote:
On 2007-10-12 18:39:55, mariwun wrote:
there a tranfer application that does it in the tools folder..
I already tried that, but after pairing both devices, the E65 could not accept the transfer. Error message was 'Datamover.sis not supported.' You would think that the E65 being a business phone would be easy to use, but no. nokia is way behind SE when it comes to innovation, and functionality, Period.
BAD BELLE
Posted by Areafada
On 2007-10-15 02:57:06, brym! wrote:
@pxt: You are a true niger-delta war lord (sorry, I meant nokia war lord).
. About time you overthrow Area, he's always AWOL.
[ This Message was edited by: brym! on 2007-10-15 02:14 ]
@brym, all my posts are always on week day when i'm less busy at work if u aven't noticed. so that's why i only response on week days. sorry I'm not AWOL o
Can u imagine ambyz comparing Nokia with SE, unequal comparison. end of discussion.
Posted by adrusa
On 2007-10-15 17:08:00, AYA wrote:
Adrusa: You may be mistaken there. Simply selecting 3G in network settings displays the '3G' icon on the standby display. This does not indicate a 3G presence, but simply that the phone is in 3G mode.
That you have not been able to connect with it also reinforces this.
I just popped in my MTN SIM and left my E61i in dual mode i.e. active on both GSM & UMTS networks - no indication of a 3G signal, yet it should indicate if indeed a 3G signal is present. When I manually selected 3G/UMTS instead of GSM, the '3G' icon showed up. I couldn't connect either.
This same scenario is what plays when I have a Celtel or Glo SIM too.
I think you are wrong. I saw 2 separate networks. Look at the attached images. In the fisrt picture of nokia e90, you can clearly see that the mtn is labelled 3G while the other networks appear as usual.
In the second picture of p990i, you can see 2 MTN-NG networks. The lower one has a mark to indicate 3G. And in the 3rd picture, you can see that my p990 is connected to the 3G network instead of the 2.5G in the previous picture. You can see that the signal is weaker than before.
Indeed they will be two networks. While some will have both and you can chose which one you want, some will continue to be only 2 or 2.5G. Now lets see where else there is 3G, wipe out your phone and test!
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Posted by OluYom
Adrusa: the pictures certainly validate your claims. No arguments there.
Posted by abubakar
This last few pages have been hilarious! My wife is wondering what is so funny on my phone. Brym, pls list out the whole nokia empire hierarchy!
@aya: u ddnt mention how much u'd pay for video calls! I disagree abt the nokia vs se debate being fruitless. Agreed the debaters remain unflinched in thier stance but others reading it get lots of info about thier choices. Im sure a few of our nondebating pnfers have made phone purchases from info they got from a debate.
@adrusa: too bad i set my phone not to download pix, until i go online wifi or on a pc. What kind of boredom got u to look for the 3g signal anyhow? Checked for it in maiduguri. NADA!!! People in other towns should shout out thier results.
@coola: the frequency range is different but dont think of it as a different "network".
Posted by OluYom
@Abubakar: I am not interested in video calls; the operators may charge whatever pleases them
On the issue of 3G being a different network or not, if the frequency is different (and it is), it is a different network. It may use most of the hardware of the existing 2/2.5G network, but its different. That's why phones with both 2G and 3G capabilities are called dual-mode phones. And that is why separate licencees had to be issued. Note, for example, that Alheri - without a GSM network on ground - can offer 3G services. Unlike GPRS which is merely a layer over 2G for maximising data (hence the term 2.5G), 3G is a proper standalone network and can replace an existing 2G network in its entirety where necessary.
I did some 3G sniffing this morning, and found that MTN has 3G presence in Alausa and Ojota areas, while Celtel and Glo have a 3G presence in Ojota. None of the operators have a 3G network in Ojodu yet. In all cases, none of the available 3G networks is active yet, as I could not logon to any of them for either voice or data.
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Posted by Angelgirl
Abu you are right about non-debater members like me, i learn about phones and get a better idea of the phone i want to buy from your debates. I think its high time Angelgirl upgrades to 3G phone so i can be among the pioneers to enjoy some freebies,
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Can someone advice me the lowest priced 3G phone i can get, which i can also use to connect with my PC.
Posted by abubakar
@aya: i dont know u personally but I KNOW U! If video calls can be made for, say, N3 - 5 more than ordinary calls I KNOW u will have a register of all your 3g contacts to call!
As regards to the 3g sightings, just because 3g is in the transmission insignia it doesnt mean a thing. They could just be marking out the masts in high density areas that they "intend" to roll it out, in a bid to feild test the coverage area.
Posted by Demmy
On 2007-10-15 00:46:00, AYA wrote:
@brym!: Until tonight, I wasn't aware that I was Chief of Staff of anything! What happened to the perks of the office?
@AYA, dnt worry d pecks r on d way
@all does any1 know if the apple iphones have really rolled out downhere?
me think the fone's good but there was an issue with d bluetooth settings.
who has more info?
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Posted by Areafada
On 2007-10-16 09:40:08, Angelgirl wrote:
Abu you are right about non-debater members like me, i learn about phones and get a better idea of the phone i want to buy from your debates. I think its high time Angelgirl upgrades to 3G phone so i can be among the pioneers to enjoy some freebies,
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Can someone advice me the lowest priced 3G phone i can get, which i can also use to connect with my PC.
@Angelgirl, let me advise u candidly, cheap doesn't necessarily mean good quality, fast access on 3g networks and access to installable n relevant variety of 3rd party applications, for Instance Sony Ericsson is cheap without good functions, but cheap and good quality are most model of Nokia N and E series it will give u good quality product.
Angel girl by the way u didn't give us what ur idea of cheapest or lowest priced is without compromising quality ie ur budget, since the word cheap is relative, for instance abu's defination of cheap is Honda end of discussion with SE P1 (I like being Oga) sill advert, advertising SE P1 on the print and electronic media !!!
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Posted by brym!
On 2007-10-16 15:42:43, Demmy wrote:
@all does any1 know is the apple i phones have really rolled out downhere?
me think the fone's good but there was any issue with d bluetooth settings.
who has more info?
...Not many profiles here: handsfree and headset. No A2DP , no file transfer, no HID for Bluetooth keyboards...there's no way to Bluetooth a camera photo to your buddie's phone or PC or share an unprotected music or video file. (mobiletech review)
See full review here: http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/iPhone.htm
Posted by brym!
Angel, don't mind Areafada...plenty grammmar for simple question!
My sister since you dey the "sony" side of life I recommend K600. It sells for around 16k. It is a fair upgrade to your T610.
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Posted by OluYom
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Abu: sorry o; but you don't know me enough. I'm a practical, utilitarian. Interpretation: if I find no real use for something, I put it aside. MMS is a case in point: it has no real use. Either of email or SMS do what it does better. I do not remember the last time I sent an MMS.
Video call will be the same. It is a novelty that will wear off, especially considering that one has to pay for it. I can envisage one scenario, though, in which I may use it: if I'm on a long trip away from home and really start missing my wife. Even that will be dependent on her having a 3G phone too, and all she does really is just voice at the moment, so I'm not holding my breathe.
Posted by Angelgirl
Na waooo i don laugh die for here, thanks brym, you know i have always being on the 'sony side of life' but its like nokia holds this our nigeria networks better especially mtn with its appear and dissappear acts in the past few weeks.
Posted by brym!
If na nokia, E go hard bicos most of dem 3G phones na smartphones sha, very few regular 3G phones. Some of them are 7900, 6151, 6280, 7390, 6233 and maybe 3 others.
Posted by Demmy
@ brym thx pal
@ AYA i agree with ur philosophy on only buying stuff if required.
Posted by coolapostle
Angelgirl, that was my next post...
PnF Survey: Who is 3G ready?
It seems three ppl already are. I am not
Posted by pxthomas
On 2007-10-16 19:08:01, coolapostle wrote:
Angelgirl, that was my next post...
PnF Survey: Who is 3G ready?
It seems three ppl already are. I am not
@COOLA...are you ready for 3G?
Posted by OluYom
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1. Areafada N95
2. Adrusa 6630, P990i, E90
3. Egunjespoilagos N95
4. Brym! W950i
5. 234hay W950i
6. Aya E61i
7. Ambyzown:M600i
8. Abubakar: P990i
9. Mamba: K600i
Next!! Did I miss anyone else out?
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Posted by adrusa
I actually stopped by non umts compliant phones since 3g licences were awarded. Though I do not think that video call will be so much of a hit (it really hasnt been anywhere!) and I know the data may be well unaffordable, I'm the kind of guy who hate to think there are things I cant do but others can.
I also believe that you acquire things not exactly because you need it everyday, but because of the diificulty you may encounter on the one unpredictable day you may need it in 3 months.
How will you feel if your friend who doesnt care about the cost wants to make a video call to you? "Sorry, the other party can not recieve video calls!"
Finally, in my line of work "clients" may wish to show me something and which better way is there to show it than with a video call, rather than asking them to travel down from a corner of Nigeria.
Posted by brym!
On 2007-10-16 19:56:00, AYA wrote:
1. Areafada ---
2. Adrusa 6630, P990i, E90
3. Egunjespoilagos N95
4. Brym! M600i
5. 234hay W950i
6. Aya E61i
Next!! Did I miss anyone out?
Amby:M600i
Abu: P990i
Mamba: K600i
?Corrections:
Area: N93,N95 & other Ns
brym: W950i
?@all:?Em if you guys see misplaced question marks in my posts, thank SE for me because the question marks are extra "awoof" that SE dashed me for updating my software 2 weeks ago.
...I call it "complimentary bug"
and it is the only improvement to the phone.
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Posted by OluYom
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You've got me all cracked up here! Oh boy! Hey! What happened to the SE versus Nokia war? My bottle of coke is unfinnished yet, and the Shawarma's gone cold already 
PS: Thanks for the corrections and additions to my list