Posted by ambyzown
On 2007-03-03 20:01:28, coolapostle wrote:
Hit me again: I CAN CALL ON MY CELTEL FOR FREE ALL WEEKEND?
@Amby: I will dust off my Celtel SIM and you can tell me the story of your life ALL DAY tomorrow.
You also need to dust off your glasses, my post read: HALF PRICE CALLS CELTEL TO CELTEL, not FREE
Posted by mamba
celtel i believe must have lost many valuable customers to glo & mtn for refusing to lower their on-net tariff. i have a celel line & never even use it to call my celtel contacts because it costs same thing calling from mtn to celtel. really bad strategy from celtel i must say.
Posted by OluYom
I have gripes with Celtel because they made a lot of noise when coming in, but have done NOTHING. Tariffs are not everything; there's innovativeness and unique service offerings. There are services that a company like Celtel can run - even if the fees do not appeal to everyone - that will stand it out, and give it a niche market.
But Celtel offers NOTHING at all to differentiate itself (to the best of my knowledge). No special tariffs, no special value added services. Nothing. Its just an unattractive plain Jane charging the highest tariffs.
Let me pay them the worst compliment anyone can pay a GSM company on this planet: right now, Celtel is very much like Mtel.
Posted by pxthomas
Celtel is digging its own grave. Believe you me they have gone past the 6 feet mark the last time i looked
Posted by mamba
ever since mtn took the bold step to champion reduction in tariff, their bad reputation of "Milk These Nigerians" started fading despite the fact that their service is crap. it seems celtel is gradually taking up that rep now. vmobile was much better with advertising, promotions, VAS, tariff & customer service. if celtel is not careful, it will end up struggling with transcorp & mubadala when they start trying to grab market share
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Good morning all, greetings and blessings. Odd, i'm finding that via Opera Mini on my phone Esato Lite looks the same, quite unchanged in fact. Maybe i'm wearing rose-tinted spex though, lol. Hope everybody's having a good weekend.
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Posted by 2tek
hi all,i'm in ibadan we r supposed to go on strike but work to rule still continues. was thinkin up pickin up a starcom table box,saw speeds of about 230kbps on it. but there is this other network onet,it claims it has broadband services.
will want to check em out,there website wasn't helpfull.
later folks.
Posted by abubakar
@2tek: let me know if you are going for starcomms. I'll link you to someone who'd get you the package at the best price possible.
@coola: you havnt said anything about my move to Abuja? Abi you dont want to make money?
Posted by mamba
@Abu, do you work for starcomms?
Posted by ambyzown
On 2007-03-05 17:55:53, mamba wrote:
@Abu, do you work for starcomms?
Mamba You no know before? Abu na big time Starcomms distributor
@2tek: The 230kbps you heard of cannot be true, none of the 1xRTT service providers in Nigeria are able to deliver such speeds. Even starcomms 3G broadband service does not deliver that speed. I've used a friend's connection, and it wasn't as fast as I thought it would be.
I advice you not to pay more than 10k/month for any internet connection, otherwise it wouldn't be worth it.
Even my netcom offers 3G broadband for N6k per month for a 1Gb total download, how you use it is left to you, but its slightly faster than Starcomms 3G broadband.
Posted by mamba
what sort of hardware do you need for mynetcom and how much does it cost?
Posted by Areafada
@brix25 thanks for you insight on the N95, in other words N95 is not yet ready for the market, then why so much noise on the product that is not ready? well mayb that's Nokia marketing strategy for it's products. ie delays and expectations from willing customers.
cause my N93 is messing up, if i close the flip with some considerable force the battery will jilt from it's position and will disconnect, thereby switching off my fone always, so now i close the flip with care, does warranty cover this faulty or is it nokia factory design fault? anybody with some insght to this?
@Aya ,How low can you discribe celtel? as low as Mtel that's bad men, if i was celtel after reading that post i will leave Nigerian market for good. ie consumer confidence is not low but lost.
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Posted by coolapostle
On 2007-03-05 14:12:06, abubakar wrote:
@coola: you havnt said anything about my move to Abuja? Abi you dont want to make money?
The Marketing guru hard at work. I just bought a Reltel and will be buying one for my gf next week. I like the Friends and Family package that allows me to CALL ANY RELTEL LINE FOR FREE. Can Starcomms beat that?
Posted by 2tek
wat is d speed for starcom 3g,starcom regular and my netcom 3g .
@abubakar,who is d person that will give me the great deal. i've been to starcom's office and they gave me a quote.
heard yaradua is dead,how far?
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Posted by 234hay
@2tek: You must have heard wrong 'cos it was reported on The Guardian's website that he was flown out of the country yesterday.Guardian said he collapsed,he(Yaradua) said went for medical checkup...
@ all:Does any1 have any idea as to when the Dubai boys(Mudabala) will begin operations or they want to take the Vodacom route...
Posted by ambyzown
These rumours about Yar'adua's health, cant be good for his political ambition. Well, back to the business of Phone and Telecoms.
@Mamba: All you need for the "My Netcom" broadband is a wireless broadband modem that looks like a cigarette pack, and a monthly subscription.
I cannot tell what the actual speeds were like, because I was browsing as a guest, and could not monitor the DL/UL speeds, but it wasn't as fast as you get at most cybercafes.
@Mamba: how can u say the N93 and N95 are basically the same phone?
Posted by mamba
@amby, i really dont see much difference in both devices especially when you already have n93. is it really worth moving from n93 to n95? they both can do the same thing, except you are looking at the design.
Posted by ambyzown
Yes I am looking at the design, I'm also looking at the display quality, the N95 has 16million colours. I'm also looking at internal memory.
These are enough factors to make me want to upgrade if I had a N93, but not at any cost.
Posted by coolapostle
On 2007-03-07 18:20:00, mamba wrote:
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I heard this at the Vendor stand as I was buying my paper a few minutes ago: "Na catarrh make Yar'adua fly go Germany. Where e go go if he get stomach problems?"
Had me in stitches!
@Brix: e(vi)l Rufai's Bulldozers at still doing a few high-profile demolisions like the one of Senator Zwingina the other day. He is more pre-occupied with leading the attack dogs agaisnt VP Atiku these days. The battel has moved to the International Scene. I heard hush-hush info that he has been doing the VP's duties for Baba. Here I go "politica" again....
Phone Talk: With the entry of Multi-links and Starcomms, Abuja will have 5 CDMA boys jostling for the action: Intercellular, Cellcom, Reltel, Multi-links and Starcomms. I think my year of having internet access @ home has finally arrived. But there seems to be a major difference between the quoted speeds and reality.
I will like Amby/AYA to tell me if VOIP apps like Skype work with ur Starcomms/Multi-links connections. That is something I really desire since my Sis has just joined my Bro in the UK.
Posted by abubakar
The death of political gist on PNF.........
@mamba: I used to. Im a dealer of thiers now.
@amby: Dont attract armed robbers to my house o!!! You dont know who is reading this thread!!!!! Clarify this netcom thing for me. what do you mean by 1Gb? Is that a data cap?
@coola: Starcomms gave Maiduguri and Kano free local on-net calls for a year and a half! (not limited to friends and family). Can you beat that? I dont know what offer they intend on lauching but it has too be something!!
@2tek: let me know when you are ready and i'll give him a call to tell me what he can do.
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Posted by OluYom
@coola: Yes; you can run VOIP services on Starcomms' CDMA 1x. I have an associate who even does VOIP over the significantly slower Glo GPRS. But obviously, there will be times when the connection is so slow that attempting VOIP would be tomfoolery.
@abubakar: the MyNetcom 1GB is a pseudo-cap of sorts. According to MyNetcom, once you reach that limit ina given month, your browsing speed will be drastically reduced for the rest of that month.
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Posted by ambyzown
he he he, Abu why you dey fear na? Armed robbers no get time to read post for here, and person wey get time to read our post finish, go don dey too tired to go out for robbery operation.
Heard from the grapevine that Celtel is planning a major drop in its tariffs pretty soon. I cant wait for that to happen.
Meanwhile, I'm migrating to post paid plan on Celtel because of GPRS.
Posted by OluYom
@amby: When Celtel finally walk their talk (why does that sound familiar? - yes! Mtel!!), I'll say something positive about them. So far, they have been a major disappointment.
Posted by coolapostle
On 2007-03-08 15:02:36, abubakar wrote:
@coola: Starcomms gave Maiduguri and Kano free local on-net calls for a year and a half! (not limited to friends and family). Can you beat that? I dont know what offer they intend on lauching but it has too be something!!
Boy! I will halt the next Reltel purchase to see what Starcomms has to offer. One year free on-net is an incredible offer. I will get all my pals into Starcomms, I promise.
Thanks AYA. From my trials during the free GPRS days, I know speed was the major reason Skype and Google Talk didn't perform as expected. I sure hope the CDMA networks deliver.
@Abu... maybe we can start a Naija Polical Talk thread somewhere here in Esato... or find another forum...except Nairaland (no offense to Seun)
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Seems like pxthomas is trying to remind us of Demmy's 1st post:D
Or pxt: are you still battling with Esato's new format?
Posted by coolapostle
hehehe good one! This new format sure takes some getting used to.
@all I am having trouble getting my pictures out of my Moto c261 (that some of u yabbed me for buying). I don't know if it is the phone or cable or the software. Normal it should show the pictures and allow me to download. These days, it keeps saying "Download fail" if it ever connects at all.
The picutures were taken durin my Clan's annual Boxing Day re-union and so contains some precious shots of Unc's, Aunts', Coz's, Nieces and Neph's. Deleting them is -pardon my pun- out of the picture.
Anyone used a Moto here? Any suggestions?
Posted by ambyzown
@Coola: Try uninstalling and re-installing the communications software, or if it is flash based, uninstall and re-install the device. This you can do by going to device manager under system.
Hope this helps.
Posted by pxthomas
The new Esato format did not confuse me. The quote was a reminder that other gist can take place besides tech and gsm. Abi here nor b meeting point for nigerians home and away.
@coola... I support your idea of a new thread. What are we going to call this thread?
Posted by OluYom
On 2007-02-27 22:18:11, ambyzown wrote:
I went to Celtel on Monday, and confirmed that gprs was exclusively reserved for contract lines and would cost 10k/kb download, which so far is the cheapest in the market.
Is this already available/active? The 10 kobo per kb is good.
How about news of this:
On 2007-02-27 22:18:11, ambyzown wrote:However, they have a package to be launched within the next two weeks that costs N20k for 1month unlimited gprs usage, a provisioned and dedicated gprs SIM and a pcmcia gprs card.
Posted by coolapostle
On 2007-03-11 21:41:00, pxthomas wrote:
@coola... I support your idea of a new thread. What are we going to call this thread?
Great observation on Demmy's post. I really doubt if we can get such space here in Esato tho. Too many nosey ppl. And to get a forum with WAP access? I have decided to always chip in my political observations everytime I have one. Todays installment: Do u think INEC can finish printing 100 million voting slips with embossments in time for the elections one month away? No Voters Registers have even been displayed yet as at today!
On the issue of phones, CDMA is at the top of my list. If I hit a jackpot today, I will get a Walkman phone to celebrate. Right now, they are too expensive for my pocket.
Posted by ambyzown
Yes Aya, the gprs on contract lines is working, and the speed is good, but I do not have info on the "bundle gprs offer" I'll inquire about it when I go to submit my forms on Thursday.
Posted by abubakar
@aya: 1gb isnt that much if you do serious browsing. Did some one say Oliver Twist?
@coola: lets leave the political gist here..... but like you said keep it to a minimum. I might be getting an awoof P910 so my dreams of P990 is squashed. Get a long list of interested parties in Starcomms!! I'll call you when i come to town.
Im not holding my breath for successful elections.
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Posted by coolapostle
On 2007-03-12 20:09:21, ambyzown wrote:
Yes Aya, the gprs on contract lines is working, and the speed is good,
@amby Are u planning to use it for only WAP or u wanna venture to web browsing? Can't remember when last I used WAP.
@All Would you consider WAP and MMS a success or failure in the Nigerian GSM space. What does that say about 3G when it arrives? The Telcos are being asked to cough out $150 million USD....
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Posted by 234hay
@coolapostle:Like we've heard,the new 3G licences will cost nothing less than $150m.Strange,considering the fact that:
1.A lot of people have WAP and MMS capable handsets but are not even aware of this fact
2.Those who probably know,only use it when the occasional ad runs on tv about each network capability of such services.Also,even when do do want to use it,you have be sure the person you are sending it to has a WAp/MMS phone.
3.At the moment,I think the lowest cost per MMS is N50,Of course,u might want to say that MTN gives free MMS but how many people do use it due to point 1.
4.Setting up WAP/MMS services on your phone could sometime be a hassle with a network such as Glo who for some reason,think every1 use's a Nokia phone.And even when you call for a manual setup,you are told to come to visit one of their "worlds"
5.The service is quite expensive if you browse frequently on your phone,so one can only imagine how much such service will cost on 3G when or if they do acquire it.
A lot of commentators have voiced out on the cost of the 3G licences remindind the NCC of how pornographic costs made a not so lucrative bargain in Europe afterall.I read somewhere that madness is: doing the same thing then same way over and over and expecting a different result...
Posted by Areafada
234hay nice piont there, my view on mms and wap success in Nigeria, is that even the free glo to glo text message promo that glo did, how many subscriber used the free txt message. takeless of mms not to mention 3G, 3what? 3Gee O.K.
i think NCC is pushing the envelope unneccesarily
Posted by OluYom
On 2007-03-13 20:13:54, coolapostle wrote:
@All Would you consider WAP and MMS a success or failure in the Nigerian GSM space.
MMS has been a dismal failure (and that's not only in Nigeria). WAP (more accurately mobile internet generally), however, has a fairly stable following. Again, like in almost all other countries, the percentage of WAP users to the total mobile subscriber population is small. Notwithstanding that, there is a significant portion of our population using WAP regularly (even after the freebies were over).
Related links:
Nigerian Content for the Mobile Web
DomainStandard.net Traffic Volume
There are a few websites out there with WAP/mobile access (Nigerian and non-Nigerian) that Nigerians frequent. As long as those sites offer them a useful service, they'll visit. I'll bet that any site with a WAP/mobile version will record a significant increase in traffic. Very few things beat the convenience of being able to whip out one's mobile phones for a quick update.
As for 3G, I see trouble. European 3G licencees have been suing the respective governments for refunds. Most have been recording losses attributable to the fees they paid for 3G. The auction fees were just too high for them to make profit.
I understand the NCC's position too. 17 contenders for 3/4 slots. How do you determine who to give the slots to in a way that appears to be fair to all? A public auction.
But what is our care? Like I have said in many places, if GSM 3G is too expensive, CDMA 3G is very affordable and is already functional! Plus, now the CDMA guys are rolling out across the country and have new national roaming numbers. I'm having my 01 Starcomms line converted to 07028 shortly. And tariff stays the same! National roaming at old prices! Expect on-net GSM tariffs to crash soon.
While falling behind GSM coverage by far, but the gap is being closed. If Glo could close the gap that fast, I see no reason why Starcomms and Multilinks cannot. At least it is clear that Starcomms has the financial backing to pull that off. In the last few months alone, both PTOs have covered about 4 cities each.
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Posted by abubakar
not to mention Starcomms' roll out in Abuja, aba, asaba, and onitsha by april/may. is anyone in onitsha interested in the biz? i need subdealers!
on the mms/wap question, if the new 3g companies follows the rest with a high skimming, low penetration marketing strategy, they will surely fail. but if its vica versa, with ingenious add on services, they might do well
Posted by 2tek
saw d ad of d sim based starcom 2day,does it come wit d same tarif & sale.
pls can someone explain d difference btw a celeron,centrino,amd,core duo processor.i'm about 2 pick up a laptop & d processors r really confusing me,which speed is adequate 4 someone that is not interested in rocket science,just browsin,media,wifi,etc. also 512,1gig or 2 gig ram whats that about.
i'm lookin 4 somethin neat in d 100-120 range. thanks.
Posted by OluYom
On 2007-03-15 16:43:39, 2tek wrote:
saw d ad of d sim based starcom 2day,does it come wit d same tarif & sale.
My wife picked one up today. Tariffs:
to GSM: 58k per sec
to national: 54 k per sec
to local: 20k per sec
on net local: 16k per sec
on net national: 50k per sec
On 2007-03-15 16:43:39, 2tek wrote:pls can someone explain d difference btw a celeron,centrino,amd,core duo processor.i'm about 2 pick up a laptop & d processors r really confusing me,which speed is adequate 4 someone that is not interested in rocket science,just browsin,media,wifi,etc. also 512,1gig or 2 gig ram whats that about.
i'm lookin 4 somethin neat in d 100-120 range. thanks.
Intel Pentium and Centrino are Intel's premium processors
Intel Celeron: these processors are less powerful than Pentiums and Centrinos, but also less battery intensive. If battery life is important to you, you may want to consider a Celeron-powered laptop. Preferably, make sure its a Celeron M - that's the top-range Celeron.
AMD is a rival processor manufacturing company, producing Athlon and Duron processors, both sort of in the same category as Intel's Celeron processors
Intel's core duo processors basically mean your laptop runs on 2 parallel processors. It does not necessarily make it run faster, but it definitely kicks in when the going gets rough. Its like the difference between a 1.6cc engine car and a 2.4cc engine car. The latter may not necessarily be the faster car on a level road (size, weight, wheel ratio etc being other factors) but when you get to hilly area or rough terrain, you will appreciate the extra power.
RAM is a decisive factor in how fast your PC runs. If you are not going to use your unit for heavy work, minimum recommended RAM is 256MB, but 512mb is safest.
For the price you are looking for, you are likely to get a Toshiba Celeron M, 256MB RAM, plus other features. Toshibas are rugged and are usually also relatively cheaper.
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Posted by OluYom
On 2007-03-15 09:21:49, abubakar wrote:
on the mms/wap question, if the new 3g companies follows the rest with a high skimming, low penetration marketing strategy, they will surely fail. but if its vica versa, with ingenious add on services, they might do well
Since its mostly the same companies running the high skimming, low penetration strategy that are gunning for the available 3G licences, on what basis should we expect anything different? In the last so many years, it does not seem that they have learnt any other strategy besides this.
Or am I being too pessimistic?
Posted by abubakar
@AYA: i dont think they can find any space in the voice market. data is the last frontier. and the data battle has already started. they have to give widely accessable services. or can the elite alone aid them in recouping thier investment? its not like they can go back to the days of 20k sims.
Posted by OluYom
On 2007-03-15 19:12:35, abubakar wrote:
@AYA: i dont think they can find any space in the voice market. data is the last frontier. and the data battle has already started. they have to give widely accessable services. or can the elite alone aid them in recouping thier investment? its not like they can go back to the days of 20k sims.
That is their business o. Whatever they want to do with their 3G licences, one thing is sure: there is enough competition to ensure that the consumers will always have choices. Any operator thinking voice only over 3G must be deranged. That would be a tremendous waste of resources.
Posted by 234hay
"... I'm having my 01 Starcomms line converted to 07028 shortly..."
@ AYA:Does that mean I won't have to buy another Starcomms line with the new number scheme but can continue with the old number I have?
@ All:With all the bad press and glitches Windows Vista Seems to be getting and experiencing,do you think Windows will evetually loose its stranglehold on the OS market and actually convince more people to give Linux a try(the French parliament is doing just that).Particularly as Linux variants such as Ubuntu(financed by SA's Mark Shuttleworth) are coming up really fast(www.ubuntu.com)...
Posted by OluYom
On 2007-03-15 22:39:50, 234hay wrote:
"... I'm having my 01 Starcomms line converted to 07028 shortly..."
@ AYA:Does that mean I won't have to buy another Starcomms line with the new number scheme but can continue with the old number I have?
According to Starcomms, you will lose your old line and be given an entirely new number. We opted out of the upgrade, since my wife and I were really using our Starcomms mobile as a home line. We chose the mobile line because the battery lasts longer than that of desktop units (imagine!).
But my wife did purchase an 07028 line for her personal use - her first brand new phone. Usually, I just passed on an older phone when upgrading to a new one.
Finally, SIM-enabled CDMA mobile service is here in the country (the new Starcomms service uses a SIM card!)
Posted by abubakar
@234hay: Most people are too lazy to work with Linux and appreciate its diversity. I dont see Microsofts burrly hands lossening its grip anytime soon.
@aya: i didnt mean voice only, but to rely on voice to augment the revenue they expect to make. The current guys paid nearly twice for thier licenses but there was lots to reap from voice. Now its lean pickings.
@all: havent seen any photos here for a while. No one hs gone anywhere exotic to show us? All these stories of coola the traveler and we dont get it documented here!!!!!
Posted by abubakar
@all: I was checking for the memory card capacity for the P910i when I bumped into the MBW-100, a bluetooth watch accessory for your phone. Pretty nice!!! Too bad its not compatible with any SE i own!!!
This kinda stuff can make me go out to buy a W880i (or at least a K750i!!)