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Posted by brix25
@mamba: That was not a good answer. Why aren't things working?


Posted by Demmy
yes oh! why are things not working? Guys that's food for thought, so contribution pls....

Posted by mamba
Quote:

On 2007-01-29 19:30:00, brix25 wrote:
@mamba: That was not a good answer. Why aren't things working?

Nothing seems to work in Nigeria because the necessary infrastructure, institutions and social amenities that should aid other things to work properly are missing..

Electricity
Fuel
health care
water
Education
security
politics
leadership
Employment
transportation
judiciary

Every sector is in chaos so therefore, even if Tmobile, Orange or vodafone comes to Nigeria, i bet you things will never still work the way they do in advanced countries.. As long as they employ Nigerians in customer service, marketing, maintenance e.g. things will never work.. bureaucracy is the order of the day.


Posted by ambyzown
Ah ah mamba, thats a bit extreme. Some things do work in Nigeria. Despite the chaos is the public sector, the private sector aint doing badly.
Glo gprs has been stable since commercial launch, MTN hasn't been all that bad. The major problem is within the nation's administrative circles that creates bureaucratic bottlenecks which hinder the smooth flow of activities in the private sector. Remember also that gsm is barely 5yrs old in Nigeria.

Posted by abubakar
ambyz: come on! i'm tired of people saying its only been XX yrs so we shouldnt expect more. 5yrs is more than enough to get the ball rolling.
with regards to the private sector, they have done a woeful job also, but thats due to lack of govt regulation, absence of any consumer advocacy and the weakness of our judiciary. even banks which give the best service dont match up with any global standard

Posted by abubakar
234hay: IBB has no good intentions. he had 8yrs and put us where we are now. he can only bury us deeper in the grave.

who on this thread recommended flurry?

angel: too bad about the book. was hoping to come to lag for the launching!



Posted by ambyzown
Guys lets be realistic. The developed countries you talk about took years to develop the robust telecoms service they have today, & all this occured under the right conditions. Nigeria does not have the enabling infrastructure for industrial growth, yet in 5yrs our telecoms sector has become virile.
Remember guys, less than 5yrs ago we were buying Nitel cards & queueing to make calls at phone booths, while acquiring phone lines cost 150k minimum

Posted by coolapostle
Celtel has no excuse for running a "trial" for over one year. Though we all love them for it. I would love to see amby's TOTAL upload/download count. Boy! Imagine if he paid Celtel for it.

I think we also have to clarify what "working well" is. The networks are making a lot of money... so things are working well for them. We pay for the services with our blood... so things are NOT working for us. We don't have the same Promised Land!

Posted by brix25


So we've moved slightly away from my initial question on the availability of GPRS.

Now the question is how do you guys suppose all this nonsense gets remedied?

I think there's two ways...either government can pour all it's resources into building capital infrastructure or out-source this job to foreign company.
For a complex country like Nigeria I prefer that government play a stronger role in the econnomy but within a clear legal framework.

Also I dunno much about the management of the economy but government needs to set itself targets within time frames.

Posted by coolapostle
After 8 years, OBJ has failed to put any major telecoms infrastructure. They squandered the money from the GSM licenses. The latest 400 million USD will go the same way.

The fuel queues are back. We are importing 100% of our petrol/diesel. Power is down by 50% because they are maintaining some plants.

My boet, we are in trouble here o! When did U say u were planning to visit us again?

Posted by mamba
Quote:

On 2007-02-01 13:57:46, brix25 wrote:
I think there's two ways...either government can pour all it's resources into building capital infrastructure or out-source this job to foreign company.



That's exactly what we need.. But from the way things happen in this country, 80% of the monies awarded for capital infrastructure is pocketed by some pot bellied old men that refuse to die after wrecking our country.

The major problem I believe is corruption.

Posted by brix25
@coola: I'd love to visit Naija and witness for myself the developments in your country...but first I need to get time off from work.

Posted by coolapostle
@brix, Two places you must visit: Ajegunle and the Niger Delta creeks. Thank God u are as black as us... or else those ND boys may make some cool millions on ur neck. U may even get some cool publicity when they release u and u visit OBJ in Aso Villa. Lucky u!

I am hoping to visit Bonny Island in Rivers State sometime this month or in March when I am free-er. I have two old-classmates there... one of whom is a Naval Officer, so I think I am in good hands.




Posted by coolapostle
If Adam and Eve were Chinese we would still be in paradise because they would have ignored the apple and eaten the snake. lol

Got this from a bud!

Posted by brix25
LOL @ coola...One place I'll certainly visit is Abuja and Onitsha(sp?) when I eventually get to Naija since I've got a lot of Igbo peeps in Cape Town.

Posted by abubakar
amby amby! in someareas that dont need massive infrastructure dev regulation is the tipping point btwn success and failure. comparing us with other developing countries with less resources, we are lagging. badly! for how many years has gsm services been in cameroun? MTN services are better and cheaper there.


Posted by abubakar
brix: everything needed for gprs or any other data is already on ground. the only thing needed is for the govt to regulate the services properly. MTN makes claims on mms and gprs services nationwide while in reality its sporadic at best. it has nothing to do with thier capabilities, just that there is no regulation.


Posted by abubakar
coola: isnt it a shame with the (disappearing) middle class in naija, things are so hard we cant cultivate a vacationing trend. at best we go to the village for the hols. its this inability that makes it hard to attract foreign tourists. we cant attract domestic!

btw if i was chinese i'd be offended by your last joke. any how, someone in china is making a joke about africans being cannibals!

Posted by artwales
Brix25: Onitsha! I can bet u'll have a lot of sorry tales to tell when u return

Posted by brym!
And Nigeria got whipped by Ghana. Haba, 4 - 1! This Fifa ranking must have gotten to our head.

Posted by ambyzown
Brym na so we see am o! We have a bunch of talented players, but no TEAM. Ghana just taught our boys a valuable lesson on teamwork. Lets see what Mr. Vogts can do. How about my question on windows mobile? You didn't give me an answer.

Posted by mamba
amby, what version of windows is that you have? i'm very sure it's an outdated version.

Posted by brym!
Quote:

On 2007-01-17 04:20:48, ambyzown wrote:
@Brym: can u please tell me why I cant enter a number to dial for an infrared modem without the os inputing the country and area codes for me?



I am not so familiar with pda ir or bluetooth modem connections since both devices I own have built-in phones but see link below; step 13 may address your problem.

http://www.filesaveas.com/pocketpcwap.html

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Always Exploring Possibilities

[ This Message was edited by: brym! on 2007-02-07 16:27 ]

Posted by ambyzown
Quote:

On 2007-02-07 09:58:00, mamba wrote:
amby, what version of windows is that you have? i'm very sure it's an outdated version.


Mamba no find my trouble o! Not too long ago that was one of the most sought after gadget. State-of-art & a must have. Anyway sha na wm2002 o/s

Posted by 234hay
Hallo every1,its been a while.For some rerason i check esato regional forums and Nigeria seems to be missing for two days or so coupled with the fact that PHCN has ben doing what they are most efficient for...POWER OUTAGES.
Anyhow,whats your take on the Globacom's announcement to introduce tripple play; a service that offers high speed internet, television and telephony over a single broadband connection,into the Nigerian market(c THISDAY Newspapers,Thursday issue or just visit http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=69971)...

Posted by abubakar
at the cost of....

when we see a price tag and coverage area, then we can comment. but since glo hasnt given M'guri even gprs, i wont hold my breath quite yet.
@all: efcc "indicted" my gov! thank GOD! but what next? even if he cant run for 2nd term, he can still run the state further into the ground with his ineptness and thievery (is that a real word?). what kinda constitution do we have that allows this to happen. we need amendments!


[ This Message was edited by: abubakar on 2007-02-08 15:36 ]


Posted by abubakar
another quiet day!
coola, have you tried out hi5? things appear to be more positive there.

Posted by abubakar
uuh.... hello? anyone there?

got a closer look at this iphone. the features aren't as appealling as i thot. still trip for the no button large screen tho.

how much does a p990 go for now?

Posted by abubakar
uuh.... hello? anyone there?

got a closer look at this iphone. the features aren't as appealling as i thot. still trip for the no button large screen tho.

how much does a p990 go for now?

Posted by brym!
Quote:

On 2007-02-10 15:39:32, abubakar wrote:
uuh.... hello? anyone there?


how much does a p990 go for now?


just passing by... P990 sells for just under 70k. Watch out for P990 'Bugs R Us' ALERT in symbian sites.

Posted by 234hay
@ Abubakar; every1 knows we need amendments to the constitution.However such amendments will come when the "powers that be" think they need to have such amendments as it suits them,not necessarily because they think its expedient that such amendments be made.Thats the "Niger-area" for you!
Also,if you are really keen about getting the P990,go for it as long as you'll be able to update it and know how to work around its bugs.Very unbecoming of SE. The iPhone in my opinion is really a video ipod will happen to hold a SIM card,it really is eye candy.But will have to wait and see...

Posted by abubakar
234hay: the people need to make a move. we cant wait for the thieves to put themselves in prison.
last year i read so much about p990 firmware coming out by dec to fix the bugs, i'm suprised that in feb its not out. the m600 firmware came out in good time. maybe its fewer functions aided that. maybe i'll wait for the next p series phone or at least 4 a few versions of firmware to iron things out.

Posted by ambyzown
After one week me gprs blackout by MTN, I'm able to log in again. I really miss my Celtel connection.
I was in PH last week, and the security situation there gives one cause 4 concern. Bank robberies & kidnapping are the order of the day. The shocking aspect is that people stand by & watch as robberies take place & applaud when the bad guys shoot.
I'll welcome glo's 3ple play if its affordable.

Posted by mamba

This is crazy!!

[ This Message was edited by: mamba on 2007-02-12 10:39 ]

Posted by brix25
@mamba: What's crazy? God, I miss the good old days of this thread.

Soon I'll start a collection of quotes from previous posts from about two years ago.
We had some good people posting here who were quite informative...not that the thread ain't as informative, it just seems like politics and pending elections have overtaken all other conversations///

Posted by artwales
true talk Brix25

[ This Message was edited by: artwales on 2007-02-13 07:20 ]

Posted by brym!
3G Licence for sale!
Price: $150m
Contact: NCC
Pls enquire from your network operators if they are STILL interested.

Posted by brix25
Isn't that less than the Dubai-based company paid for their GSM licence?



Posted by adrusa
Quote:

On 2007-02-11 22:41:59, ambyzown wrote:

I was in PH last week, and the security situation there gives one cause 4 concern. Bank robberies & kidnapping are the order of the day. The shocking aspect is that people stand by & watch as robberies take place & applaud when the bad guys shoot.
I'll welcome glo's 3ple play if its affordable.




Isn't this what Mr. Nweke, our (dis)Honourable Minister of (mis)Information was splitting his hairs on on CNN about? Why is it that the Nigerian government under OBJ always want to sell dummies to people?

Isn't it a well known fact that there is an insurrection going on in the Niger Delta? So why denying the obvious? Why describing a place where foreigners are kidnapped or killed almost on a daily basis as a peaceful area? Shouldn't there be a decorum about the lies that we tell?



Posted by brym!
@brix25: Mubadala Devt. Co. of UAE was offered a unified access service licence for $400m.
The issue is that the COO of one of the GSM networks( speaking the mind of his competitors) was expecting the 3G licence to be given to the existing networks at little or no cost to compensate them for their ''heavy investment'' in the communications sector. Let's see how this plays out.

[ This Message was edited by: brym! on 2007-02-13 15:48 ]

Posted by abubakar
ambyz: why wouldnt people stand around when there is less chance of gettn shot accidentally from them than a police man's "accidental misfire"!

brix: technogist dried up cos of 2 seasons
1 there hasnt been any new innovations in a long time
2 switchfrom free gprs to costly gprs has hindered most froz trying out any apps which we'd be fallin over ourselves to comment and debate over. SAD AINT IT

Posted by brix25
It's going to be ridiculous if the existing players have to say exorbitant fees for 3G licences when it's in Nigeria's interest to ease access to information technology...they're looking for a quick buck in the short term but better technologies will improve Nigeria's competitiveness in the long run.

Posted by abubakar
adrusa: gone are the days of effective spin doctors in our govt that could tell us the sky is red and we'd agree. in the past, harsh action would have been taken on the insurgency in the delta and the bad news would be covered up. now inaction is followed by acclaims of peace and tranquility. its a shame. we dont see any diplomacy happening. we dont see any development.


Posted by abubakar
brix: the initial money the collected for gsm licences went into thin airand it gave the companies carte blanche to make us pay thru the nose. any company coming in now really must of had its feasibility studies checked out.

Posted by pxthomas
Brix nothing good will ever come out of corrupt officials. Their agenda is to fatten their wallets and suck us dry. We will always remain technologically behind. But nigeria will be great again.

Posted by abubakar
pxth: spoken like a true patriot! the real question is will we see it in our lifetimes?

has anyone seen coola? or has he been kidnaped

Posted by pxthomas
I don't see any reason why govt should deny d CNN report and not wake up to d niger delta problem. How long can we go on like this? Should this niger delta people be deny their fundamental rights? We have not seen anything cos they mean business. I hope they don't start killing these Oyibo people soon

Posted by pxthomas
Quote:

On 2007-02-14 09:34:31, abubakar wrote:
pxth: spoken like a true patriot! the real question is will we see it in our lifetimes?

has anyone seen coola? or has he been kidnaped

It is just a matter of time. VICTORY IS CERTAIN

Posted by adrusa
I'm wondering why we are all so excited about 3g. Even gprs most of us could not afford. Wont we need an arm and a leg to use 3g?

Posted by brym!
Quote:

On 2007-02-13 18:26:00, brix25 wrote:
It's going to be ridiculous if the existing players have to pay exorbitant fees for 3G licences when it's in Nigeria's interest to ease access to information technology...they're looking for a quick buck in the short term but better technologies will improve Nigeria's competitiveness in the long run.



I agree with you brix25!
I just read this bbc report that said SA networks paid only 6million rand(under $1m) for a 3G licence, how true is that?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3576260.stm

[ This Message was edited by: brym! on 2007-02-14 15:23 ]


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