Posted by Laykay
Hey guys good job there.I must say its been wonderful workin wit u guys.
@aya: your E61 guess its a cool phone also i think those Nec phones that have 2 cameras one in front n back.Had one but sold it.Need to get it back.
Posted by OluYom
@mamba: Give me a call to fix a time I can come troubleshoot. Its been a while I played with the S55; but I guess I can do some good if I lay my hands on it.
Posted by brix25
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No, no, no...that's a common fallacy. I'm connected to Vodacom's 3G network on my PC via my N70 and I'm using a three year-old 32K simcard. The only thing the 64K(USIM) which you're probably refering to is store more information.
For all the folks in Naija who have been complaining about DStv, check out this thread on the upcoming licencing of new players in the satellite arena.
Posted by pxthomas
@Brix... from what i can gather from the thread it appears my brothers in SA are highly dissatisfied with multicheats. Sorry multichoice. So telkom wants to go into pay tv in the interest of the mass market?
STORY.
The end they say justifies the means. It is a question of TIME.
Posted by OluYom
@brix: There is more to it than just larger capacity. I understand that USIMs also feature enhanced network security.
But you are right that a different SIM is not always necessary. Certain networks have been known to require 3G/Universal SIMs in order to be able to use 3G. But there are also others that old 2G SIMs work quite fine on. That's why I carefully used "may" in the post in which I mentioned the subject.
Where the network allows the use of older 2G SIMs, I am told, the SIMs are updated OTA to enable them for 3G services. I haven't confirmed that bit though.
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Posted by ambyzown
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No coola, it isn't an elitist service. You won't realise the benefits or usefulness of a push email service like Blackberry RIM, Visto or Emoze because u use yahoo mail where u can log in and check ur mail from anywhere. For people who work in large corporations like Shell, and the various banks whose email addresses are like...coolapostle@chevronng.com how do they retrieve their mail when out of the office? thats where push email becomes beneficial.
If Glo or Celtel offers this service, rest assured they already have market for it. Most "Big boys" and all wannabes in the banking industry will want to have one. Not to mention the idumota traders who want to impress their friends.
Posted by OluYom
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Not necessarilly. Corporate mail services have their own web-based interfaces from which mail accounts can be accessed. And they always have POP3 and/or IMAP functionality, allowing you to use Outlook or any PC/mobile mail client to get and respond to your mails.
Most of these mail clients have what is called "pull email", meaning they can be configured to automaticlly login to your mailbox at intervals to retrieve new mails and send outgoing.
While PUSH email is great, because you receive your mails in real-time (theoretically), most people do not need it.Except you run a mission-critical service, you are not likely to have real need for split-second access to your mails.
Most times, 5 minutes or so mail retrieval time is more than okay for the rest of the world. Why I would want to pay N10,000 service charge per month for PUSH email is beyond me at the moment. In comparison, Seven AlwaysOn offers PUSH email for N3,000 per month. I used it with my 9500 for close to a year and it works just fine. In addition, you don't need a particular device to enjoy their service. Download the specified application for your smartphone, signup with them, and you are good to go.
Posted by coolapostle
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N10,000????? Is that the price for the Glo Blackberry service?
@Mamba... how many of the "Big Boys" have even used WAP/MMS? How much more email?
I used my T610 to access my Yahoo.co.uk email account... with a little tweaking, I could use it with ANY POP3 account. So why a Blackberry?
Another Money-miss-road marketing campaign.
Posted by OluYom
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Yup! And that's just monthly access; not counting data usage.
Posted by abubakar
@coola: You are talking about checking your mail. With the Blackberry when you recieve the mail, it is sent to you and you are notified, while you are in the middle of your "big boys" meeting so everyone will know you ar an important, busy gadgeted person!!! If you check your phone people will think its only a text!!!!!!
@AYA: a partial concession on my side, 3G services do run at 1920 - 2170 MHz. when in non3G areas, the 3G phone runs on the normal GSM frequencies. Every 3G phone I've ever seen has them within thier network spectrum specs. A concession none the less. (but i read about the use of 3G within 1900 range tho, check http://www.gsmworld.com/using/spectrum/frequencies.shtml )
@all: got no more requests for SE themes and my 1 PNFer that did request hasnt made any comments on the one he got for alterations so we are closing shop!!! Going....... Going........
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you guys must be joking. 10000 naira for monthly access. How many nigerians know about gprs?
Posted by OluYom
@pxthomas: Glo is the jester; not us :-)
This message was posted from a E61-1
Posted by ambyzown
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@Coola: like I said, thats because u use yahoo. Could u do that with an AOL email account?
@Aya: you're quite right, but how many corporate organisations in Nigeria actually have pop or IMAP access attached to their mail servers? and AFAIK no bank in Nigeria has a web based interface for mail retreival. you can only do it from within the banks intranet. This they claim is for security reasons.
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Posted by Laykay
Hey dudes the main stuff about dis blackberry thing is all efizi ! and efizi na 4 big boy, higher class men can afford d monthly charge n data charge. I once configured my outlook and usually get my mails recieved was cool. There is a new,not so new software available for smartphones called FLURRY check out http://www.flurry.com also a push email thing.so stuffs for big boys are there n also available for small or medium boys too. We too can enjoy little.
{Also guys pls can someone give me a link to where can get full apps for s60.}
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Posted by OluYom
@amby: All corporate mail servers come with POP3 by default. Today, most also come with IMAP. My company DomainStandard.net that's not big by any standards has POP3 and IMAP with our mail server. All our web hosting plans, from the free 5mb plan to the largest plan, come with POP3, IMAP and webmail access. And all these utilise secure access features. If those banks and corporate organisations choose not to use POP3/IMAP that they paid for, that's their cup of tea. But its there and can provide what they need.
Even if people need PUSH email, there are more cost-effective solutions compared to the Blackberry service (at least as priced by Glo).
@laykay: I have used Flurrymail. No; its certainly not PUSH email.
You can get apps for series 60 at www.my-symbian.com. On your phone, its http://mobile.my-symbian.com.
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Posted by Laykay
Sorry oh! Thought flurrymail a push mail because you it retrieves ur mails and other rss feeds for u on ur phone.
Posted by ambyzown
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Such Modesty.... hmmm I like that.
Posted by OluYom
Nokia Phone Users can now update their firmware online. I wonder why it took Nokia this long to implemen this.
I am in the process of updating my E61 firmware right now. Wish me luck!
Posted by pxthomas
@laykay... google the net if you want symbian apps but you have to pay for the good ones
Posted by egunjespoilagos
@all: I have a new P4 2.4Ghz notebook that is surplus to requirements so I am offering it to PNF chaps for 120K including carrying case.
Email me at : losoetan@stclimitedng.com or just call 08023127077 for more info and detailed specs.
Posted by Laykay
Hey guys as now nokia has a firmware upgrade centre pls dose anymore know about sendo x firmware upgrade?
Posted by abubakar
@layk: throw away you sendo and get an SE.
Posted by brym!
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Sorry Laykay, you can't upgrade your firmware because Sendo is dead and buried.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/30/motorola_sendo_takeover/
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Posted by pxthomas
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@laykay...my guy if you have cash upgrade to a good sony ericsson
Posted by Laykay
Alright dudes u guys jus got me high! Once had a T610 wasn't up to my expectation, well as for sendo x hav really suffered with it.Had d chance of choosing d razor but thought it will be cool wit d x. Got a deal wit someone for a SE k750i wish me luck in d deal really need to switch over.
SE For life!
Posted by OluYom
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Don't be too sure. Wait until you have a specific need and SE has no phone that meets it. Like me, you will probably go for something else.
I haven't used an SE in about 2 years, and I haven't missed anything.
But the K750 is a good phone, and I guess it meets your present needs. So be happy!
Posted by ambyzown
@Aya: I take it that ur firmware upgrade was successful. any significant changes?
you seem to 4get that u are one in 100,000 people. how many people actually use their phones the way u use yours?
4 life. there's an SE phone 4 everyone. as far as I'm concerned, there are only 4 nokia phones 3310, series 40, series 60 & series 80
Posted by ambyzown
@laykay: if u do get ur K750i pm me for refreshing content for ur phone.
does anyone have a 512mb MS Duo pro for sale? pls pm me with details.
Posted by abubakar
@AYA: Haba AY!!! The way you talk is as if if you pick any Nokia phone it will solve any telephony need you have. You infer that in most of your posts. An SE on Average is better than a Nokia on average. If you have special needs (game play, symbian progs, music, photos etc) then look for the particular phone that gives the best bang for the buck. But chances are it'll be an SE!!!!!
@amby: be careful if you are buying a duo. on my last trip to lag i bought a duo, made the mistake of not testing it till i got to abuja just to see it didnt work. while browsing to see what might be wrong i got to a site that confirmed that it was a fake. it had pixs and discriptions that showed tattletale features of the fakes.
Posted by pxthomas
@Abu... thanks for that advice. I was thinking about getting a 1gb ms duo pro.
I think we have to very careful in this country. Sometimes i wonder if i am not a fake nigerian
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Posted by abubakar
yipee! Mtel is back on!
@pxth: i almost fell laughing at your last comment. it was a 128mb (the highest my ancient s700i can take) that i got just to be disappointed. and you cant tell from the packaging at all. i wish i kept the url me that site but i guess it can be googled.
Posted by OluYom
@abu: you apparently got my drift wrong. No; I do not think that a Nokia meets every need. But for the past one and a half years or so, only Nokia has produced phones that meet my needs.
If SE would do a proper QWERTY device, I'd have a go without thinking twice. Unfortunately, as you can see...
Ambyzown's post suggests that he understood my comments better.
More seriously, SE seems to shoot themselves in the foot in a few areas: EDGE and Wi-fi on their phones. These deficiencies were part of the reasons why I chose the E61 over the M600i. And then that wierd keyboard!
Posted by easydee
You know not being one thats a computer freak!! (no offence to any1
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I've really learnt alot from you guys. sometimes i'll just keep reading your posts and i begin to telll my self that i have a pc and a good phone but why dont i know about this stuffs, i guess it's not really my thing sha! I just wanted to say MEN- You guys are good. I know the world is turning into a global villa-i guess i have to move before i get LEFT BEHIND. I really like PNF Forum.
3 GBOSA for PNF oh!!
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So I take it there are hotspots all over the place in Lagos? Correct me if I'm wrong but which network in Naija is EDGE-enabled? Apparently the keyboard is not as difficult to use as it looks...after a couple of days you should get the hang of it. But yes AYA, you have just justified your decision to shell out for the E61 when you won't be using most of the headline features.
Posted by OluYom
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No; but there are at least 4 open networks around my office and a few other places I frequent. Which is good enough reason for me to snub the M600i.
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1. None yet. The operative word being "yet". But inside sources have it that EDGE deployment is already on ground. That's not difficult to believe, looking at the general scenario around the world and in your own country. Plus I happen to work in the industry.
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Maybe. But why should I learn to use something different when there is another device with a standard keyboard available? What would this from-outer-space keyboard add to how I work or play? The thrill of using a "unique" keyboard?
And why would I choose this different keyboard when the other device has extra features I need or will need at some point in time?
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But yes AYA, you have just justified your decision to shell out for the E61 when you won't be using most of the headline features. |
By now, its obvious that this last statement by you - and indeed your entire post - was made on grounds of presumption, not facts. Which basically makes it of no value.
The E61 has everything the M600i has, plus more. The E61 keyboard is easier to use. The E61 costs less. The E61 is more value for money.
You live in South Africa, but somehow know that I don't use Wi-fi thousands of miles here in Nigeria, and also know that having EDGE on my mobile phone is a useless cause because there is presently no active EDGE network.
That's like telling me 3 years ago that choosing a GPRS phone over a non-GPRS phone was trash. Of course it was trash until Glo launched GPRS and I got on the gravvy train while others went phone shopping.
Come on; you can do better than that
Peace man 
Posted by brix25
@AYA: Granted, you might be the exception...you work in environs with wi-fi, you're hoping that local networks deploy EDGE to justify your decision.
My post is not in defense of the M600, hell I own an N70. You're probably right, if you ask most people, they'll go for the E61 but for the average man (here I venture on assumption) the phone and it's fancy features would be as much use as a sports car on a potholed stretch of road.
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You are right. I probably am. I do not know many people around the world (not just in Nigeria alone) who use a mobile the way I do. And I had already taken cognisance of this. When I said Ambyzown's post suggests that he understood my comments better. , I was referring to this:
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Again; you are probably right. The average Nigerian (at least) will prefer to spend N70,000 on a dinky fashion phone with zero functionality beyond phone calls and SMS than on a work-horse like the E61.
And none of my posts were aimed at convincing anyone to buy the E61 either. I simply stated that needs, not mere sentiments for SE, may influence a final choice:
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In my case, I had a need and no SE meets it at the moment. That remains a valid fact. The next fellow in all probability could not care. Which is his cup of tea anyway; not mine.
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@abubakar: I would appreciate you pointing out the instances in which I committed the above crime on this thread.
Posted by ambyzown
@Pxt: I presume ur phone came with a 512mb ms duo pro, I could take it off u when u get ur 1gb stick. only thing is where to get the genuine article.
@Abu: testing the MS is the 1st thing I'll do should I buy one from an untrusted source.
Posted by ambyzown
@Aya: After reading your post, I went and compared the E61 with the M600,and I must say that there isn't much difference between the two devices. They both have the same features except for a few viz:
E61 has edge and WiFi, M600 has touchscreen
E61 has 75mb internal memory, M600 has 80mb
E61 has a normal qwerty keyboard, M600 is physically smaller
If the E61 had touchscreen, it would've been a killer.
But I wouldn't say that E61 beats the M600i hands down. I've tried to be impartial here. However if I had to buy a phone between the two right now, I'd chose the E61, because of Edge and WiFi. (It would be my 1st nokia after the 3330 and 8850. The series 60 just does not appeal to me. I like the picture gallery viewer of the N70, but thats about it.)
Posted by Laykay
Hey dudes kinda a real entertaining arguments or would i call it suggestions.But pls take it easy really getting at ya self personally.
But really must confess the E61 is made better, but since this is an SE created forum then such is not needed here. Aight kool guys
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Posted by ambyzown
@laykay: not to worry, we've been down this road several times in the past. there's always heat when nokia and
are put against each other here.
this isn't an SE forum, its open to all users.
Posted by 2tek
DID ANY BODY NOTICE THERE IS NO RESTRICTION TO WAT ONE CAN DOWNLOAD VIA WAP WIT CELTEL, I VE DOWNLOADED LIKE 5 FULL Mp3 TODAY.
Posted by Laykay
Hey dude dat must be crazy i too use celtel but its always slow r u at lag? Cos i think lag is fast or wat do u say also pls where did u download dem mp3's.
Posted by pxthomas
what is the latest gist on obj and Atiku?
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Posted by abubakar
@coola: I DEY ABJ!!!! Came in yday evening. But this Mtel gprs keeps disconnecting in my area (zone 1) but was working fine in Nyanya. Is it working in your side? Is vmob (i mean celtel) gprs working in Abj? A friend of mine told me she has seen the gprs signal in lag but not in Abj.
@AYA: Hmmmm..... I'll go thru past posts to show ur Nokia leanings!!!!! Any how, apart from qwerty, what other need do you have? I always use T9 for everything so its never been too much of a problem. Personally i wouldnt go for a phone with EDGE or WIFI if tht function is the only thing that puts it apart from other phones AND the Edge or WIFI isnt readily available. If, like you, Ihad WIFI at home or at my office, I might think about getting a WIFI phone though. But really, AYA, with all the other options available right now, will you jump on the EDGE bandwagon? (especially with the charges we envision them coming out with it?) Abi you wan do small effizy big boy moves?
@easyd: dont discourage yourself!!!! If you are interested in anything, ask . None off us were born knowing it!! Anything that is interesting to me becomes a priority for me to investigate. It nt about being "gadgety".
@laykay: I dont thinkany of our comments have been cruel or demeaning!! We all respect comments and suggestions (and the occasional Yab!!!!) from each other. Like my man coola buying that dud of a phone!!! (hehehehehe) Coola knows he's still my guy!!!! (right?)
@pxth: this whole OBJ vs ATK is a smoke screen while transcorp (a company they both have interests in, from the rumour mill) buys the nation. Is it coincidental that as heat started rising about transcorp, this fiasco started? Place your bets, it all boils over in a few months without a single casualty!!!!
Posted by OluYom
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I'll be waiting. Just make sure you start from the very beginning of this thread. You'll also probably dig up my SE leanings as well
My friend, what you'll find if you do a holistic search is that I am an unbiased, objective mobile user.
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Try using T9 to respond to official mails, to manage online accounts extensively, to edit webpages, or to type out Word and PowerPoint documents.
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But really, AYA, with all the other options available right now, will you jump on the EDGE bandwagon? (especially with the charges we envision them coming out with it?) Abi you wan do small effizy big boy moves? |
In principle all over the world, EDGE service and pricing is usually not distinguishable from those of regular GPRS, so maybe the cost won't be an issue.
Posted by brix25
@abubakar: Just to clear up something...the genral principle around the world is that all data is charged at the same rate across delivery platforms. If your network charges, for example, US$0.30 per megabyte, the price would be the same across GPRS,EDGE,UMTS and HSDPA. With the higher bandwidth/speed available it will only mean that you will spend more money than if you had a slower connection.
Posted by abubakar
@brix: As always, as things are not regulated here, I doubt that will be the case. As expensive as our GPRS is, I bet the EGDE etc will be more expensive. Even if its only a form of access charge they might try to add on, they'll do something cos as always they wont bring in enough equipement to handle a thong of subscribers simultaneously, so they'll opt for milking the few that can afford it. Mark my words!!!
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Posted by abubakar
@AYA: Thats why i have a laptop!!!! If i want to do some wbpage editing etc from my phone, i must be kinda inclined to screwing my eyes together to veiw everything on such a small screen, scrolling and scrolling thru pages. You cant tell me its more comfortable making such editting from a phone!!!