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K700 / K500 Firmware Overview

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Posted by mwarner
Added R2AY004 to the first post. If anyone has it installed, it would be great if you could post the software information & any Jbenchmark results you have for the phone.

Additionally, it would be good if anyone could confirm the faster BT speed in R2AT+ reported earlier in the thread.


Posted by Sebby
Ohhh, just after I pay to flash R2AT.

I don't think I'll bother with R2AY unless there really is a significant difference!

Posted by ccbro
This is the speed (49.8KBps) I get when copying to my k700 (R2AT003)through bluetooth. I am using a D-Link DBT-120 bluetooth adapter. I hope somebody else can produce these results.


Posted by mwarner
@ccbro

Thanks for that - it's evidence enough for me to add it to the R2AT entry. Good news too!

Posted by insi
Aaah..I just upgrade to R2AT.
I also feel the bluetooth transfer speed faster than before from my pc but don't have the transfer speed info like the picture above.

Is R2AY release from Davinci only or from SE as well?


[ This Message was edited by: insi on 2005-05-25 01:29 ]

Posted by gbrooks3
All firmware comes from SE, no one else makes it, everyone just downloads it from the EMMA II soon to be III server.

Posted by insi
Quote:

On 2005-05-25 02:32:26, gbrooks3 wrote:
All firmware comes from SE, no one else makes it, everyone just downloads it from the EMMA II soon to be III server.




So...if I go to SE service centre and to do the upgrade, it should be available and use this new firmware, am I right?

because I need to upgrade my other phone if this is the latest firmware since under warranty.

By the way what is that EMMA II or III server?

[ This Message was edited by: insi on 2005-05-25 03:33 ]

Posted by nikern
Hi, im seriously considering the K700 R2AY004 firmware from DaVinci team, but I dont know what a credit costs, and where do get a couple of samples cheap (im norwegian, if that is relevant).

So if you sell cheap davinci credits, and that you can get someone here to confirm that your not a cheat, let me know.

Posted by Sebby
@ nikern

Send a PM to a member called 619. He sells cheap DaVinci credits and is well known on here. I've personally bought from him and know of many others that have too. You can pay buy PayPal. Nothing to worry about.

Posted by smjohns
Is it me or does there seem to be a hugh amount of software upgrades being released recently for the k700i? Is there any news on when a newer release will be available free from SEUS? Or are there too many changes currently being made for Sony to release it on this platform? Not sure I want to keep handing money over to davinci when SEUS should be upgrading theirs a bit more regularly?

Posted by Sebby
I agree, smjohns. The SEUS is such a powerful concept, but if it's out of date, it's not of much use. It still offers R2AE for unbranded generic K700s!

Posted by gbrooks3
Davinci could easily make software upgrade free by using SFA files instead of the whole FS. But they wont becuse of course they want money.

Regarding new updates, yeh as a k700i owner myself now i would like to see SEUS updated, however it could be that the files so far and Brown files or not meant to be released to public phones.

Posted by DCUK7
Not to mention it's very unreliable!

Posted by Sebby
I'm not so sure about its unreliability. I've used it several times and it's been fine, once with a P910i and many times with various K700i. Perhaps it's unreliable for the S700i more than others.

Posted by smjohns
Question for you davinci users then, do you have to perform a master reset for each firmware upgrade? This is assuming that your phone is already locked, was never branded and you are installing the same region firmware? If I can use davinci without loosing all my data then I may give it a try...if not then I guess I will have to wait for SEUS to pull their finger out

Posted by Sebby
You don't have to do a master reset, but as DaVinci does a full flash of the file system, the phone will be wiped anyway.

Posted by smjohns
I guess i will have to wait then as I can't be bothered to go through all that hassle every few days...which seems to be the amount of releases we are getting at the moment.....oh and pay for the privilege

Got an email from SE today confirming they have no idea when their SEUS will be updated with the latest firmware.....efficient as ever then

Posted by gbrooks3
But its fair enough, if SE dont think the firmwares should be released then it is up to them. Davinci are the annoying ones, charging people for a free service - for unbranding you have to use connection to the EMMA II server so it is fair enough that they charge you for it. However simple software upgrade requires no such connection and therefore should be free! My opinion anyway.....

Posted by Kwyjibo
R2AY004 info:

JBenchmark 1: 2419
JBenchmark 2: 127

Just retested and got a result of 132 for JBenchmark2

[ This Message was edited by: Kwyjibo on 2005-05-27 23:09 ]

Posted by Sebby
Could someone with R2AY confirm whether or not the "time and cost" menu is present? I know with R2AL and R2AT it had disappeared, so I'd be interested to know!

Posted by mwarner
@kwyjibo
Thanks for your benchmarks, I have added them to the first post. If you have some time, could you note down the LCD, Camera & ITP software revisions?

Posted by patrick_teo
After I have my K700i firmware upgraded from R2L001 to R2AE033, the mobile phone monitor does not detect my phone either via Bluetooth or Infrared when I tried to synchronise with Outlook calendar or contacts. Anyone knows how to resolve this problem.

Posted by Kwyjibo
Some more info on R2AY004

LCD: 200406041
Camera: 3.10
ITP: CXC 125 813 R1T

Also, not 100% on this but video playback appears to be a little smoother.

Posted by mwarner
Thanks Kwyjibo. I've added your info to the first post.

Posted by centraspike
Could someone knowledgeable explain, maybe Mr. Brookes, who or what entity releases new firmwares, how or why do 3rd parties get them well before official channels? Where is EMMAII located?

Is it possible to connect to debranding/unlocking servers directly yourself? Or, how would one go about the process of becoming an unlocking service provider etc?

Yours in ignorance.



Posted by smjohns
These can only be accessed by official Service centres and the like.....although obviously these companies have their sources too We cannot access them ourselves as I assume we need the correct software / tools


Posted by gbrooks3
Basically,

All Firmware for SEMC phones is made by SEMC - thats it.

They release the files (not just firmware) on the EMMA II server (Soon to be EMMA III). To access EMMA II, i suggest you type that in google Of course with your Hardlock dongle etc etc with you.

To become an unlocker/debrander

You need to have some knowledge in programming, not rocket science. Also you need someone with an EMMA II connection so you can link t that server (or buy your own )

Then you could either crack someone elses software - Davinci use pretty lame exe protection or build your own software. Yu would need to somehow implement the different signed loaders (Chip Select, Recovery, Production etc etc etc)

If i were you and looking to develope SEMC software - i would stop and think hard, or just borrow others code

Posted by yellowbox
dunno if this bug has been posted before but noticed it after upgrading my k700 thru SEUS (it's now R2AG001, O2 branded)

whenever I create a new SMS and select a contact to send to, the contact doesn't appear in the list but the contact does appear in my phonebook. Not all entries in the phonebook are affected, only a few names are not listed.



[ This Message was edited by: yellowbox on 2005-05-30 08:38 ]

Posted by centraspike
@ gbrooks
Thanks guv, have no intention of getting into that line of business, just out of technical interest was my inquiry.

Sounds like it would take some dedication to get into that market, probably the reason why not every kid with a passion for SE has set themselves up suchlike in their bedrooms.

Cheers.

Oh yeah, liberated software is often a good thing.





Posted by RTouris
Can someone who's installed R2AY test the properties of a resulting 3gp movie recording from his k700 and report back? There have been some talks about better video quality capture with these latest firmware versions, but I feel like we need to quantify the whole issue.

For example R2AE033 produces H.263 9~10FPS video with AMR Narrowband, Mono, 8.000 kHz audio...

Is there any difference with the current newest firmware version?

[ This Message was edited by: RTouris on 2005-06-02 09:09 ]

Posted by milind_001
Hi all.
I have lots of questions.
I'm in india. I have vodafone branded k700i (got it frm my cousing in UK). It's unlocked & works fine except can't set mp3 or wave file as ringtone (& some other things). So today, i handed over the phone to SE service center. They said they can't write SE indian SW on it but will be able to upgrade the vodafone f/w. will this work & is it true that they can't overwrite the vodafone f/w with original SE f/w? and would it lock my phone again? (service ppl say it won't but if it does they won't unlock it).
Also what is drs-11 cable? can it be used for flashing phone? what is its advantage over DCU-11 cable?
And finally, can the camera focus be adjusted? the pictures i took don't have sharp outline & close-ups of small things are unrecognisable.
can neone help me????
Thanks

Posted by milind_001
Hi again.
fone f/w is R2N001.

Is this right thread to ask this question?

Posted by markusbkoch
Hi milind.

Take a look at this thread: http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=93380

Even though my problem was a bit different, the same solution should work for you.

Posted by markusbkoch
@RTouris

how do you check those properties?

Posted by mwarner
@millind
The first post in this thread should provide the information you need. As you can see R2V001 (the firmware after yours) is the first vodaphone firmware that allows you to use MP3s as ringtones. You will need to use the DRM packager with this firmware though - but that's not too much of a problem.

In other words, take your phone to the SE Service Centre and get the latest UK firmware put on it, download Sony Ericsson's DRM Packager Tool, apply DRM to your MP3s and then copy them onto the phone. You should then find that you can use MP3s as ringtones.

As for the camera, the K700 has a fixed focus camera, so it will always be blury with close shots.

Posted by milind_001
@mark thanks. It would be great if i could de-brand the fone myself. but too difficult to get hands on the required stuff here in india.

@mwarner thankyou. just now i was begining to wonder if i made mistake by going to SE service center. and already have the drm packager. Think i can relax now

will let u guys know what happens.

Posted by RTouris
@ markusbkoch:

Just u/l the file onto your PC/Mac (cable/bluetooth/IR) and get properties via QuickTime Player or WidowsMedia Player (it is capable of playing back .3gp movies right?)

Posted by milind_001
I am having really disappointing experiance with SE service in mumbai.
Instead of upgrading my fone's f/w, they have downgraded it so that the camera sw is 3.6 instead of 3.9 & all icons look really bad. They r saying since it is not under warranty i'll have to accept as it is. Though they say they will try once more 8-|, i think this is gonna cost me money & headache

Posted by mrao
is it a branded phone?

Posted by mwarner
@milind_001

There has never been any K700/K500 firmware with camera version 3.6. Have you checked the firmware information yourself? As always, look at the first post to find out what you have got.

Posted by milind_001
@mwarner: when i goto the camera option it gives a message that sw version is 3.6 & atleast 3.9 is required. I also thought that 3.6 does not exist.

@mrao: yes it is branded(vodafone). Can u tell me where i can find the cable used for debranding. is T28 service cable must or will DRS-11 do? I have downloaded da-vinchi & can get credits for it. Or is there any other way to debrand it here in mumbai (heard there is shop in manish market).

Thanks for ur help.

[ This Message was edited by: milind_001 on 2005-06-07 02:53 ]

Posted by smjohns
Search the forums mate as this has been discussed all over the place. DSS-20/25 is what you need though.

Posted by mwarner
@milind_001

It would be interesting to see what software revisions you are using. Find out through >*<<*<* / Service Info / Software Info and post the firmware revision, LCD, Camera and ITP software versions your phone thinks it has in this thread.

SMJohns is correct - the DSS-20/25 is perhaps the best option for firmware flashing, although it isn't the only option!

http://www.davinciteam.com/index.php?page=features

Mike

Posted by milind_001
Thank god....
The SE service people have finally managed to upgrade my fones f/w to R2AT003. cam s/w version is 3.10. Haven't explored it much yet but
ringtone problem is solved + now has search option in phone book + bluetooth conn speed with pc is doubled to 48Kbps.
Think it is going to be worth the trouble .
Thank you all for your interest in helping me.

[ This Message was edited by: milind_001 on 2005-06-07 18:05 ]

Posted by smjohns
Surprised they put on R2AT instead of R2AY but certainly better than crappy R2AE033 !! I am still waiting for the lazy gets to update their SEUS....grrr

Posted by vergon
Just bought an new k700

it come preloaded with R2AY

Posted by sahran
Hiii ...in R2AY004 now you can set m4a:aac & 3gp audio & mp4 extensions as ringtons and alarm and contacts .

sorry if this was been posted befor .

Posted by TomeOne
After a lot of trials and tribulations I finally managed to unlock and flash my K700i with davinci which previously had all the Vodafone crap. Now everything is slicker and smoother, although the signal strength graphic is pretty annoying with the blue background.

But that is trivial compared to the freedom I have on my phone now! :D

Now I just need to find out how to get FMA working again. :/

Posted by milind_001
With R2AT, video playback is bad. Files which played smoothly earlier now skip large number of frames.
Also it takes about half sec to get the unlock screen from display off (after pressing *). Bluetooth still turns off automatically sometimes.
Reception seems to have improved. But takes almost two secs to go from the answer yes/no screen to the hold/end call screen.
But this version is more useful than the old f/W.


[ This Message was edited by: milind_001 on 2005-06-10 13:05 ]

Posted by RTouris
Just an FYI. R2AY004 is now officially out at SE service centers, so you can have your handsets upgraded for free


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