Posted by rdnymllnsktr
Is it just me or is Esato losing quality? It seems that as newer people join Esato, they always post the same questions. However, I notice many of the newer members don't seem to show their intelligence. Or they really aren't that smart. They are constantly told to use The Search, but never do. They seem to ask less and less intelligenou questions, and more. Yeesh!
Posted by bart
lol you've been here a few months. i've been here for years. yes the quality is going backwords abit. but you'll still find everything what you need, just try a bit harder.
there have been suggestions about a seperate forum for the great old ones. or a card system like yellow or red cards when a person isn't behaving or zilver or gold cards for the special members. but laffen doesn't reply. he works in the back alot we can see that but still a reply on what he thinks about it would be nice.
Posted by shyam335
Exactly,some reforms need to be introduced.
Posted by 50Cent
i seem to have slowed down my usage of esato after the whole "K700/S700 " phase. I reckon once we get sum more juicy rumours i will be on a lot more.
Regarding the "newb questions" i dont really find that a problem. most of the time you know the question by looking at the thread title, so i just avoid them unless i can easily refer them to the relavant threads.
Twista
Posted by kr4nc
I am new here also and i desided not to set topic anymore. I just answer interesting questions, if i know the answer. New ones dont know the rules and ask anything they think of just that someone would post. Well anyway, ESATO RULZ! Have fun! Luka
Posted by themarques
Mmmm I wonder if I can be classed as a GREAT OLD WISE ONE???? Since I DONT have the >500 after my username...
[ This Message was edited by: themarques on 2004-07-22 20:04 ]
Posted by bart
>500 doesn't mean your a great old and once one.
some people just get a high post count by posting junk.
normally after some time you can see how's amoung the great old and wise ones.
Posted by 50Cent
the number of posts u have doesnt change the amount of knowledge u have!!! i mean have 500 + posts and dont know all that much about phones.
so you could be a wise member, u just havent spread ur wisdom very far yet
Twista
Posted by masseur
every few months a topic like this come up but its fairly useless really
Esato is what it is. Its an internet forum open to any who wish to come and visit and those that like it stay, those that come just for a quick answer might also stay while others come and go.
It is not possible to moderate general questions from new members for whom presumably esato is their first online forum. What should we do? remove their question if its been asked before? tell them how silly they are? or do we try and help them and point out how they could have found the answer in existing links so that they learn forum etiquette?
I prefer the latter solution so as not to scare first time forum members away.
Esato, like any other site, has its ups and down, it good time and its bad. Clearly by the number of regular members the overall view of members is a positive one so just have some tolerance of new members and do as I do, show them the way in a friendly manner
(and for for the love of god... forget the post count!)
Posted by *Jojo*
@rdny . . . - Naaaaaaah, I guess it's just that one of those 'boring' days on your part
I've been here for only 9 months, and as I can see it, I find younger members more intelligent than the old-timers - honest 
! Of course with some exceptions to some of the oldies I'm sure that the discussion will be more exciting as long as a new SE fone model comes out in the market, just like that of the SE S700, SE P910 and Z1010 
I guess it will depend on how you make/reply to some posts to make it more interesting and . . . spicy 
Now, just see how 'humble' @masseur is . . . 'just forget the post count !' . . . why
, because he is about to hit the 10K mark in no time mates ! [ This Message was edited by: JN on 2004-07-22 20:17 ]
Posted by Ayush
@rad i think it's ok :-) we're here to help each other :-)
Posted by BobaFett
I do like this place, team esato is the right one who should start and coordinate the changes. Esato is the nr 1 mobile forum, day by day new members sign in, those who just come here to spam or chat, will disappear aslong the major member apart and the mods manage and keep to the main reason of esato. Indeed, there is much to do in several cases, but its ok, aslong we are for esato and not esato for us.
Posted by bart
true, but its sad that some good request are just left in the idea box. this place could be even more better
Posted by rdnymllnsktr
I know there are exceptions. I was just browsing Esato on my phone and it bugged me to see so many threads asking the differences between phones. Why don't they look at the specs pages? Also, to Bart, I've been here for more than a year. I was just reincarnated (as masseur called it).
Posted by damo55
People would probably use the search function,but let's face it,it's about has good and efficient has most se technology.half of the resulting criteria is far from relevant,or maybe you love sifting through irrelevant text because you have lot's of available time maybe?
Posted by Atlis
Oh Iīm such a newbie here, but I think that we can be happy about newbies asking sometimes silly questions... I know that there are many questions, that werenīt answered, because nobody knew the answer - posted by newbies. And thatīs the point - improvement... Iīm happy that I have persuaded 4 new people to join our community - and they ask and recieve answers...
I AM PROUD ESATONIAN ATLIS
Posted by BobaFett
I see the many questions from another point of view aswell. Ppl come HERE to ask sg, maybe the same again and again. So, if u cannot fight a thing, make it for your use! Keep the new ones by clearing up instead of blame or use the search reactions, integrate them by a bit more patience etc. Again, they should rather ask here boring questions then in another forum. We help and keep to each other, the mods of us and @laffen coordinates the system. Symbiosis. We need each other as in a community.
Posted by friscosjoke
@bobafett always the balance to the force thankyou you took the words out of my mouth (except said it better)
Posted by Atlis
So is this thread at its end? No other like this needed...
Posted by BobaFett
Dont forget another thing! Years ago, we learned many thing on our own, cos forums like this didnt excisted. A new fone kept his image even a year long, if not longer. We read the useless manuals, hear rumors etc the world opened by the web, its easier to ask instead of experiences on our own. So let them ask! Why? If 1 of 100 stays on esato, except the rules here and ready to help, we win a new honored member instead of 99 spammers. Ps:let the @mods sweat a bit sometimes, its their job to manage esato ;-)
Posted by lor
I'll be honest with you guys, the quality left the day I stopped using SE phones
Posted by Vlammetje
It's topics like this one that tend to ruin the 'feelgood' factor on esato more than any person asking a genuine question ever could. (And no, I did not bother reading past the first 3 replies)
Posted by energetic
I believe that ESATO has its ups and downs like masseur mentioned earlier. I find myself very busy on a specific day and keep posting and posting as long as the running threads are interested to me. But also sometimes I find myself kinda bored when there are no interested threads.
I have no more to say since this subject has come up so many times.
And dont forget that all suggestions are welcome and thats why there is a topic for suggestions for ESATO. Some are very hard to implement and some are easy to implement but the final decision is up to laffen and the ESATO team.
Posted by batesie
ive been reading esatos forums since 2001, and not much has changed really. i managed to get all the advice i needed without ever posting until the start of this year, but ive noticed as more topics are created, the harder it gets to search through more posts.
Posted by energetic
@batesie
It is true! I happen to be the victim of the search syndrom. I always perform a search before creating a new topic but sometimes it doesnt work right since similar threads are using different words than the search input, if you know what I mean.
Posted by Krubach
@energetic
Totally agree with you mate. And that subject was raised several times before: Esato search function s*cks! (I think there's a thread named like this, actually).
Posted by energetic
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Well we can't say that is bad, since the results depend on the word we are using to search.
Posted by whizkidd
The title of this thread is right! Esato is losing quality. But the only reason for it is that i am addicted to Esato! I am fairly new here but i have a feeling that i 'belong' here. Even i have posted rubbish sometimes but thats how we grow, learning from our mistakes. A newbie may not know how Esato functions and may post something which the oldtimers may find repeated. But instead of criticising them we should help them and help Esato reach newer heights! Well, this is all i can say. CHEERS!
Posted by BobaFett
@whizzkid amen!
Posted by whizkidd
Er.... Thanks bob!
Posted by masseur
well, it seems we are all mostly in agreeance and since I also agree with vlam
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lets end this now