Posted by gseth
When i go and start the update procedure, it say starting applet and then after a few minutes it shows fatal error. At this times does the synstations needs to be pluged in? Btw the site is currently down, i cannot access it!
Posted by Zulan
Yes, 799 sek was a robbery. I can see that now. I bought it at vodafone stores.
Posted by Mrb 18
@zulan
I get the same message as you, lets hope that the Swedish language firmware just isn't up yet on SE webbsite.
I also bought a DSS-25 today at 695SEK ~EUR69
Posted by JonStatt
Bengalboy's CDA on his phone ended in /20 and he could update
Mine ends in /17
Both are completely SIM free unbranded phones. However my IMEI is a production unit, whereas Bengalboys was a trial unit.
It is possible if it works on IMEI that they are only enabling trial units.
Posted by Sir-SonyEricsson-man
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that could be right... maybe. But i don't think so because the scandinavian package is one off the first one witch is out.
It is good to here that you can delete numbers out of groups now
Posted by MJJPB
I really hope the new firmware improves battery life, if only a small amount. Right now Im charging the phone every day! battery runs out so fast. Not the end of the world though, since I have a charger at home and one in my car and it charges very quick, still annoying.
Posted by CyberVisitor
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The service is not down, it's overloaded! You see, this site someone found is for selected people only to try before the final release. Now more people than it has capacity for is trying to access it. This might by the way delay the final introduction date.
Posted by Rob123
What happened to those people that DID manage to update their phones????
Why is no-one telling us what the improvements are.......
Posted by Vlammetje
Perhaps because they've only done so the past couple of hours and have yet to SEE the improvements? Not everybody is in a situation to play with their phones all day long on a thursday. Have some patience, give them some time.
Posted by Lordmike
I guess no one is telling only because it hasn't gone final yet.
So there could be some more improvements on the final version of the first update. =)
Posted by ukchalky
Plus the fact that @masseur asked them to post details about the changes in another thread... Ok they havent done that yet, but you should be checking there..
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=63392
Posted by Rob123
Looks like it might be possible to de-brand a phone using this online update
Found this on another forum: (for those of you with branded K700i's)
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You can update (and debrand) the software from a branded k700i
you need a unbranded one and put it on the station (dss-20/25)
then the server checks if an update is avaiable and starts downloading it!
While downloading you change the phones on the station and the software (AVR and ARM) will be updated on the k700!
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Posted by Vlammetje
Not the way i would personally go if it were my phone, disconnected it and reconnecting another one just might cause an error and abort
or worse
Posted by Rob123
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Some folks here certainly sound deperate enough to do this. If I had a phone that had some of the functionality disabled by the operators I would definitely consider it...... just a thought....
Posted by Bengalboy
For those with an interest....the phone I upgraded is not one of my prototypes, but a production unit purchased directly from Sony/Ericsson at the DevShop. I only flashed it late last night and it takes about 20-30 minutes on a broadband connection. I used the "25" cradle from my P900 to do this. You cannot use an early cradle from the P800 to flash your phone..it must be the "20" or "25"..look underneath the cradle for the model number before purchasing and remember that you could buy the wrong one if it has a round Sony/Ericsson emblem on the front..as opposed to the "25" which uses a large rectangular LED.
I cannot answer any questions about it because I haven't even made a call on it yet..its morning here in Alabama...and I can't really offer any insights into its operation until I've used it for at least a day or so...
Just keep trying...and hold your nose just right...maybe it will "link-up" for you.. My only suggestion is that I performed my upgrade without the SIM in the phone....
Posted by Playahata
I be nuking my phone as soon as i get in lol. Worse thing that could happen is I kill the phone. Have to say not happy with the vodaphone branding.
Posted by dards
I tried the service. My phone is not operator branded. Bought it straight from the SE dealer
R2A041
prgCXC125882_HONG_KONG_C
Customization
CDA 102298/33 R6A
cxc125822 R1A
HONG_KONG
I received this message
'Your device is not permitted to use this service'
Your operator does not approve the usage of this service for this device
what should I do????
[ This Message was edited by: dards on 2004-07-15 16:39 ]
Posted by CyberVisitor
I never get passed the "Please wait... Checking the installation of Sony Ericsson Update Service" screen on the web. Someone else that managed that?
Also, is it ok if only the "driver" for DSS-25 is installed, or do I have to install some other software too (like mobile phone manager)?
Posted by Dovern
dards:
i suggest you wait for few more days and then try the service again but lot of people getting this message at this moment. i got same firmware version like you....
Posted by blueday
You can update (and debrand) the software from a branded k700i
you need a unbranded one and put it on the station (dss-20/25)
then the server checks if an update is avaiable and starts downloading it to your PC!While this download is running you have to change the mobiles on the station and the software (AVR and ARM) will be updated on the k700!
It seems to work, cos some german guys here tried it!
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Posted by gseth
I called my service center in India, Mumbai. He said there is an update and the version was r2e. I am going on monday to do the same!
Posted by Epedemic
Before any of you swedes & norwegians run out and ruin yourselves on a dss for 6-800 SEK, check this out:
http://www.mytrendyphone.dk/shop/default.asp?ProductID=601
Dss-25 for 199 dkr (that would be 246.1 sek) ... shipping 19 dkr to sweden+norway... (when paying by visa)
Bad news is that they are on holiday and wont deliver untill 26/7...
Good news is that they deduct 10% if you order before 26/7... I just ordered one
Posted by kesperse
i think the update service is offline now..
Posted by sOnicen
i`ve got a dss-20 for 250skr
znittaren@hotmail.com
Posted by migzz
i tried to update... but it says i dont have the service... grrrr! i bought my fone directly from an SE dealer...
Posted by Dovern
lets wait for a while and try again... i heard the service is down at the moment.
Posted by JasonDeFaoite
its working, just getting hammered at the moment
Posted by JasonDeFaoite
Just tried it, was slow but loading.
However using the HK firmware i get the "Your operator does not approve the usage of this service for this device".
Damn it
Posted by Dovern
many people got this message.... is it because of the service havent fully available? or there are no new firmware got HK version yet?
Posted by JasonDeFaoite
My guess is its because the service is not officially launched yet.
I remember reading in another thread the newer firmware of R2E was available on EMMA, and upgrades were listed for all regions, including the vodaphone branded crap.
I'm on R2A, so it should have at least upgraded it to R2E, but its possible it only has the R2J revision, and only for European lanuages.
HAs anyone with the Hong Kong region firmware managed to update theirs using the online service?
Posted by urbanmac74
can this be done to a K700 Orange branded phone?
Posted by dbone
Does anyone know if the online firmware update service will allow you to install a different language to the phone? All this talk of only being able to put the permitted software on your phone (eg. vodafone branding over vodafone branding) and the fact the the process is automatic makes me fear you won't get a choice of picking a different language pack.
I need to put italian on a UK O2 version K700i. Will this be possible?
Posted by ThreeX
From what my friend at Ericsson Lund has told me, each FW "flavor" eg. Vodafone swedish, Telia Go, Orange or whatever has a unique checksum, hence a branded phone will not accept generic FW.
I donīt know if the trick described elsewhere in the forum works (where you put an unbranded phone in the cradle, let the update tool detect it and when download of FW starts, exchange phone to a branded one)
I am not calling anyone a liar, but I would be very surprised if that really works.. I mean, try that with a computer motherboard BIOS flash and youīre most likely to have a "braindead" motherboard instead of a flashed one.
Posted by Superluminova
does anyone one know how to install the dss-25, as i can't get it to work using the cd that came with me k700?
thanks
Posted by Mrb 18
@superiluminova
A special driver for DSS syncstation is avaliable from SE
http://www.sonyericsson.com/s[....]3_2&zone=ps&lm=ps1_1&pid=10101
Posted by CyberVisitor
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Use the CD that came with the DSS-25 - I did and it works great!
Posted by Superluminova
Thanks guys hope this works also my dss-25 didn't come with a cd?
Posted by Superluminova
i can't get those files to work guys???
Posted by sanya)))
hmmmm....
Tried in the morning but the program has given out a mistake...
"Your device is not permitted to use this service
Your operator does not approve the usage of this service for this device.
We look forward to assist you again soon.
Thank you for using Sony Ericsson Update Service!"
Has decided to try once again, but link (http://www.sonyericsson.com/updateservice/K700/frameset.htm) does not work..... "The page cannot be found"
Posted by jh67
I also tried last night,..got everything right, but service was simply overloaded...
Also regarding the use of simcard or not,..
I'm using the DSS25,...
When I try to remove simcard, and insert the K700 into sync station, I get a popup on pc screen, saying : INSERT SIMCARD
If I dont do this, program wil shut down.
(the message is coming from mobile phone monitor,..where I of course also has enabled the comport for the DSS25)
Dont think I can disable this ????
I then tried with simcard, and got the following message :
There is no software for your operator,...
and "this device is not permitted to use this service"
Second time I got a message saying "Too many users on site, try later".
And I'm in Denmark BTW (unbranded phone, no simlocks or anything,..and using one of the first K700's out,..the one with the PLAY NOW icon on the screen)
From what I can understand, service is not official yet,...think that is why its so unstabile, dont think its fully up'n' running yet.
Regarding SIMCARD > with the P900 updates via web, can you have the simcard in the phone, or do you guys remove it ??
BR
Jan
Posted by dards
tried again just now and got this message
Not Found
The requested URL /updateservice/K700/frameset.htm was not found on this server.
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Posted by StoneRoses
SE seems to take down the update service for K700.
The heavy traffic from esato reader (including me) might be the cause
Posted by B@CO
Hi since the update service is unavailable for alot of people...
can anyone share this update tool including the latest firmware version ?
I'd be happy to allow my server for download... (1 GB Backbone)
Sincerely,
baco@pcfreaks.com (pcfreaks = GameServer company) ^^
Posted by dmgoss
The interesting thing is that it will only be so long until the part of the update software that lives on the PC is hacked and will allow us to pick the firmware to install or impersonate another firmware installed on the phone therefore allowing updating with different (read unbranded, other language, etc.) firmware.
This should go in interesting directions over the next few months once the serivice is fully online and people have had a chance to poke into it a bit -
d.
Posted by ThreeX
@dmgoss
That is a question you should ask all P900 owners here, the update service for P900 has been up and running quite a while now.
Personally i donīt think itīs that easy to impersonate an unbranded phone with a certain language but hey, more complicated things than that has been cracked before.
Iīd hate to see SE shutting down this service due to abuse though..
Thatīs one thing I loved with Siemens, the free online updating thingie!
Posted by beh
I think that DCU = Docking Cradle [Cable ?] USB and that DSS just translates to Docking Sync-Station. There must be some extra electronics in the DSS. Can someone open their DSS 20 / 25 and try to use a mulitmeter to sort out the pin cfg.? I'll try go get a hold of one tomorrow and have a peek inside.
Posted by StoneRoses
When I plug DSS-25 to my WinXP machine for the firs time (without any phone on it), Win XP detect it as DSS-20 (yes DSS-20, soI think both DSS have same electronics inside) and ask me for driver.
So DSS might have something like electronic controller inside, so WinXP PnP can detect it.
I have sync cable for many portable (Phone, Pocket PC, iPod, Digital Camera), most of them are just a cable and Windows cannot detect it without when it not connect to the device.
What happen if you plug sync cable without the phone?
Posted by thadius
The page for update the k700 is down since saturday...
mmmmmm anybody knowns what's happen?
Any other solution?
Posted by StoneRoses
No solution, you have to wait untilK700 update service is officially announce. Or ask your nearest service center.
SE took down the k700 update service since Friday.
BTW, the chance that you successfully upgrade you K700 is not much, SE seem to allow only small fraction (depend on IMEI) of K700 to be updated using pre-launce update service
Posted by thadius
loooooooooooooooool
grrggrgrgrggrggrgrg
well, mmm i bought DSS-25 on saturday morning only for the firmware update and now i would like to crash it on the wall...
anyother person have the same problem? xDD