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Posted by chrisfirst
Hi guys!I know maybe this is not a best place to ask this but some of you might know this.I want to set up a company to provide sms quiz game with realy big prizes for mobile users but I don't want to spend a fortune on advertising.I'm thinking about to send a text message to every single mobile user in the UK.I found a way already,will cost me about £10000.Anyway,the problem is I need those (couple of millions) mobile numbers.I can not just make up numbers because that is not that easy.Any idea?
Thanks


Posted by CyberVisitor
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On 2004-07-06 00:21:23, chrisfirst wrote:
Hi guys!I know maybe this is not a best place to ask this but some of you might know this.I want to set up a company to provide sms quiz game with realy big prizes for mobile users but I don't want to spend a fortune on advertising.I'm thinking about to send a text message to every single mobile user in the UK.I found a way already,will cost me about £10000.Anyway,the problem is I need those (couple of millions) mobile numbers.I can not just make up numbers because that is not that easy.Any idea?
Thanks




Be careful. There is a directive from EU that forbidds sending advertisements as text messages to peoples mobile phones without having the subscribers approval.

As far as I know, all countries in the EU has implemented the directive, either in an own law or by giving the directive full effect.

The sanction is from a simple fine to prison (depending on country and how widely the action is taken).

I would most certainly recommend you not to do such thing!

[ This Message was edited by: CyberVisitor on 2004-07-05 23:44 ]

Posted by lovewalrus
Dito. All UK service providers wouldn't take to kindly to it any may take legal action against you for doing this without there concent. Would contact OFCOM and the TPS before indulging in such a massive marketing campaign!

Posted by anish
But isn't that EU directive only for Emails? He might get away with the SMS idea.

Posted by CyberVisitor
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On 2004-07-06 00:51:00, anish wrote:
But isn't that EU directive only for Emails? He might get away with the SMS idea.




No, in it's extended form it includes text messages to mobile phones. Time period for implementation has passed. If any members of the EU has failed to either convert it to national law or to give it effect in it's written form, I would be surprised. U.K. has seldom had problems failing their implementation as far as I know.

Posted by chrisfirst
What to do then?

Posted by CyberVisitor
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On 2004-07-06 01:08:41, chrisfirst wrote:
What to do then?




Well, you actually have to get all the subscribers approval first. It's not an issue with their operators; meaning it's no use to try getting all the operators to approve your advertising. It's all those people out there with a mobile phone that has to approve before recieving advertisement.

One solution is to put up a web site where people can "ask" for the text message to be sent to them. Obviously it wont give you the effect you want since you first have to get their attention to "find" your web site. And if/when you do that, you might as well advertise your business there (saving you the money to send text messages since they already have the information right in front of them when at your web site).

Your idea is not new, and that's why it's illegal to advertise your business by sending text messages to peoples mobile phones these days (without first having their permission).

[ This Message was edited by: CyberVisitor on 2004-07-06 00:27 ]

Posted by batesie
unless you tick a box saying you dont mind recieving texts from a 3rd party...

Posted by mightyhef
can't you jsut make numbers up?

Posted by wapchimp
TPS (telephone preference service)

Since 11 December 2003 it is unlawful to send an unsolicited SMS marketing message to an individual. If you would like to complain about the receipt of such a message please contact the Office of the Information Commissioner. If the message contains a premium rate number contact ICSTIS. You will find contact details are under useful links

http://www.icstis.org.uk/icstis2002/default.asp

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[ This Message was edited by: orangeman on 2004-07-09 20:13 ]

Posted by Residentevil
Even if you make up numbers, you still cannot send your advertising, because.........see below.

Posted by wapchimp
or above?!?

Posted by draxken
A good thing ccmpanies are not allowed to do this. I'm sorry for you mate, that you can't pull off your plan.

But if you can spend that amount of money to deliver a message to each and every mobile phone user in the UK, I can image that a lot of other companies can do the same!

And I don't want to receive sms with commercial information all day long. That just wouldn't be fair!!

Posted by Krubach
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On 2004-07-23 15:08:51, draxken wrote:
I'm sorry for you mate, that you can't pull off your plan.



SORRY! Well, i'm not! He's a friggin Spammer-to-be!
I'm glad he can't do it.

Posted by chrisfirst
Fcuk you!I am not a spammer and if I want I can do it but I found something better!


Posted by Krubach
Then what do you call someone who sends messages to thousands of people without their consent?

Posted by chrisfirst
First of all I didn't know it is illegal to send text like this.Far too much "u have a voicemail,call 090xxx" and "someone fancies you,call 090xxx" kinda things out there...The other thing is the top prize will be more than a 100 grand,so I don't think people don't want to try for little as 10p a min.Anyway the whole thing been called off for a while,because of the stupid bank!


Posted by Jezzaj
you need to get in touch with data collection companys such as 'data locater'.these companys obtain details from market research yadayada and then sell these details on.real eyeopener when i worked for a company that used these details as to how many companys sell of your details,loan companies,banks,credit card companies etcsell on their customers details to the data collection companies.most importantly the details will be from people who have(or havent ) ticked a consent/non-consent box.


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