Posted by milad_sm
Hi!
I'll use Farsi, so my fellow friends here can follow as well!
Salam! Sahebane P800/P900 che bibokhrand??? Pas chera bakhshe Iran nist inja?? man ke taze oomadam, fekr mikardam tahala kolly adam inja bashe! To khiaboon ke kheily p800 dar adam mibine...
Be har hal, jam shim inja o gol begim o gol beshnavim!!
Dar khedmat hazeram dar har moredi ke be p800 marboot beshe...
Be hamdige mitoonim komak konim...
Mokhlesam,
Milad
Posted by sOnicen
bah bah
Posted by milad_sm
Salam, bah bah? hamin?!!
baba share kon!!
jam shim ye ja gathering dashte bashim...kheily kara mishe kard...
Kesi mishnasi moarrefi kon...
By the way, if anyone likes, we can of course have this in English!
Posted by kimcheeboi
i im from the USA and id like to give you all a hello and ghood day, no matter what mr "president" (aka that bastard Bush) may say!
Hi!
Posted by milad_sm
LOL!
it's funny! but well, nevermind that...
this is P800 territory!! even he can join!! hehe!
Posted by kimcheeboi
i think bush has a brick
Posted by milad_sm
Shhhhhh!!!
They might hear us!!
Let's bluejack him without anyone knowing!
Posted by kbloom
can any of you guys speak spanish?
Posted by milad_sm
amm....not me! but...wait a minute...why spanish?!
are you iranian?!
otherwise, why here?! puzzles me!
Posted by kbloom
I was just interested... I'm English, speak Spanish
Well, hi you guys!
Posted by milad_sm
huh!
2 replies...one american, one english...
I wonder where do iranians hang around!!
looks like none of them come here.
do you guys know how cheap mobile phones and accessories and stuff are in Iran??
I just came back from Malaysia, where everything originates from!!
but here in Tehran we have things dirt cheap!! well of course, comparing to other countries...our currency is still toooooo low to be cheap here for everyone.
still, good for me!!
Posted by whizkidd
Hello to all the iranian friends who will join this thread in the future. I am from india and i just adore iran. I love their culture and especially the caspian caviar. Good luck and CHEERS !!
Posted by milad_sm
Wow!
Quite frankly, I must say I am surprised that there are people like you that don't see us as terrorists!! I personally have given up fighting about proving people that Iranians are nothing like media is portraiting...media and isolation campaigns are just too strong!!
Glad to know some people know of our culture. We have so much to offer, only if we are allowed to!
Thanks! Felt good!
Cheers!
Posted by whizkidd
I guess many people in the middle east see india as a hell for muslims which actually is totally wrong. Yes there are fanatics in every religion. But a few fanatics doesnt represent the views held by the vast majority. Also i would like to add that we have ancient links with Iran which is considered a friend by majority of indians. Well my best friend here is of iranian origin his name is Dinshaw Hormuzdi. We will keep this thread alive until someone joins from Iran !
Posted by milad_sm
No no, i don't see India like you said.
In fact, I am waiting for an opportunity to go to India and just stay there for a while! I have a few friends who have come back from India, and they are TOTALLY somebody else!! I've heard great stories about it. What freaks me out is total simplicity which rules in India! with this so-called modern life that we have and the social habits we have collected from the west, I'd need a lot of adjustments to make, in order to get comfortable there!
In terms of cultural roots, yes, we do have many in common. But since last centuries, we both chose our own ways! Still, when I was in Malaysia (as you know is a multi-cultured country, with people from all countries) my closest friends, who I could interact were Indians. They are the only people who understand my jokes!! You won't believe NO ONE got my jokes!! Not that they are not funny! hehe!! They just don't get it... Just like some american jokes are not funny to us Iranians, it has to be the same to them! Difference in culture is what it is.
Anyways...as long as we can communicate and learn about other cultures, we are safe. Once we close our eyes and rely on our ears, wars happen, occupations, distrust, lies and....appear.
Let's just hope it all ends well!!
Posted by whizkidd
India has come a long way from what it used to be just a few years ago! I think its going the china way - the economy is booming and the people are getting richer. And the traditional way of thinking has given way to western thoughts. I would love to know more about iran , the way people think there and the state of its economy .
Posted by milad_sm
India is HUGE!
But it's more organized than Iran. Iran has now about 70 million population...it's quite large. We have many cultures (pure persians, turks, kurds, lor, baluch, and many more)...each with different tastes and ways of life. It all sounds silly, compared to India I know!! But proportionally speaking, I think it's similar.
Anyways, if you ask me (i am still new to Iran myself), people on the streets of Tehran, do not represent the whole population.
Recently, due to pressure (political, economical...), people have become depressed. It's a miracle if you drive in Tehran and don't use your horn, and don't have an accident once a week!! It's a mess.
Government offices are worse than you could imagine...no work done, lotsa corruption (to be fair, not as much as malaysia...it's terrible there), and a lot of embezzlement.
It's all a chain reaction. People need the money. So does the govt. The govt takes taxes, etc, ppl feel cheated and want to retaliate!
They don't like the govt...they don't feel the govt likes them! It doesn't belong to them. This is where all Iran's problems show up.
But all in all, as I said, you only learn about Iranians, inside of them...like any other culture. You should live with them, in their houses, to see them. To see what they do.
Iranians, unlike what many think, are VERY clean and have the BEST nutrition. You can judge by our body builds and strength.
We are very kind and very hospital people!
I don't want to make this long and boring...there are lots to talk about!
I can see you get notified fast by your wap...see, wap is just too expensive here...cuz some opportunists up in the telecom (which is a public and not private company, and it's only ONE, for 70 million people!!), like to fill up their pockets, and so, we are usually the last country to get the latest technologies!! We still don't have DSL!! no wait, we do, but it's only affordable by corporations!!
Posted by whizkidd
Yes i am on WAP.Right now GPRS is free over here. Till last month it cost of 600 rs per month that is roughly15 us dollars. Also my friend corruption is rampant here too. The state of government officer are pathetic to say the least. Since i am posting through WAP my posts arent as long as yours
Posted by milad_sm
huh! lucky you!
in kuala lumpur, it was cheap too...you'd pay about 5$ i think for a month! depended on the usage of course, but for me, occasional user, that was it. there was another service, fixed at 3$ a month, you could stream about 15 tv channels (not all live) unlimited!!! that was cool!
i had the best time in the trains, people staring at my phone or 'gadget' from outer space! hehe!
here in Iran, it's still new...they are charging about 2$ an hour...not per KB!! i'd just let them have their fun for a while...it'll get old in say...5 years?!?! and then we won't be using WAP anymore!!
in near future i hope Bbluetooth or any other tech could emerge that breaks the distance barrier and I could just connect to my PC's internet from my phone from anywhere in the city! that would be niiiiice!
btw, r u using p800?
Posted by whizkidd
No my friend the P800 is beyond my reach as of now. I am a humble T230 user. I guess you are one hell of a lucky guy to be able to use it !
Posted by milad_sm
hehehe! so you are actually using the keypad to type all these! wow! that needs a lot of patience!
ya...i got this p800...but as of everything else i get to own, my thirst for it has subsided and i am now searching for pocket pcs!!! that's life man! you know, you work your butt off to get a car, the cheapest one! once you have it, then you'll want a mercedes! but even when you get a mercedes and a palace on canary islands and anoter in hawaii, you'll just get depressed!! so, don't beat yourself up with your t320! have fun with it!
but p800 is truly worth the money...it's not as expensive as the pocket pcs (PDAs in general) but it does what they do. p900 is really not worth all the fancy stuff it has..not to me. i'll pay that for an imate, or an O2...
good thing about p800 is that there's something new for it everyday!
i was browsing the forum and it said it can be turned into a mouse/keyboard uysing bluetooth! see what i mean?!! it's unlimited for the time being!
Posted by whizkidd
He he yeah its really irritating to type all these stuff with my puny little keypad. Talking about PDAs well yes they are cool gadgets. Btw the Palm Tungsten T3 is a great one. It has a 400 mhz processor and an extendable screen. And yes BLUETOOTH. And its not that expensive as well !also i would like to know your age and name!
Posted by milad_sm
yup...T3 is niiice and cheap too...but it's not a phone!
I do need a phone! and don't wan to have it as an extra thing...i want it to be a phone first!
u should know if it's a pda-phone, the cheapest is p800, (it's not a full pda though) then starts with about 500$ to my knowledge.
Posted by whizkidd
Well if you need a PDA Phone, then the P900 is the best bet. There are other contenders too for example, have you heard about the Anextek SP230? It too has a 400 mhz processor, runs on pocket pc 2003 os. Has a TFT240*320 screen, 64 mb internal memory + MMC slot . The only minus point is that it aint got BT.Another one is the Palm Tungsten W. It has a full QWERTY keypad but the processor is only 33 mhz . Also it has only IR no sign of bluetooth here too.
Posted by milad_sm
ah ah...no p900 for me. thanks.
eventhough it looks super cool..but if i have the money, i'd get a proper pda!
i haven't really needed 65k colour yet..but i think it would be nice!!
that's why i am a bit upset with everex now, which i was in love with some time ago.
Posted by whizkidd
Whoa !!the monsoon has arrived in Mumbai. We have received the first rains of the season !
Posted by Krubach
Well i've just decided to post a welcome message to milad, and all Iranians that will follow you.
And i'll say it in Portuguese: "Bem vindo amigo iraniano!" (you can always translate this on "bablefish"
).
You said that the (western) media made Iranians look like they're all terrorists, but intelligent people always know that they should read between the lines. And i consider myself intelligent.
There's no culture, religion or whatever that are evil by itself, it's always the means that men use that are evil.
But in that case only those men can be blamed and punished, not a whole culture/country.
_________________
Check these coordinates 39°04'51''N/-9°15'14''W here.
[ This Message was edited by: Krubach on 2004-06-07 17:51 ]
Posted by dazbradbury
Salom doostoyeh aziz. Bebakhshin ke farsi am khoob neest. Hamin mikhostam yeq salom begam be hameh kass as Iran.
khodafes
Posted by milad_sm
whizkid, coool!! it just stopped raining here! summer's here!
we had a VERY rainy season this spring...and lotsa snow in winter! yey!
Krubach, thanks a lot for your welcome! your message didn't need any translator! in iran we love spanich (kinda similar to portugese don't you think?!?! hehe! sorry though! i hate it when people think Iranians are Arabs! i am sure you feel the same way now! lol)
and...trust me, there are not many ppl like you. i see them everyday!
your thoughts are very interesting...but looks like noone cares to think that way anymore.
it's all materialistic now...oil, diamonds...whichever is located in a weaker nation! let's rock and roll! ha?! that's how it is now.
dazbradbury, khoshhal shodim! eyvalla ke zabooneto pas dashti!
glad to have you with us...you can talk in any language you like...wait...i mean farsi or english!! hehehe!
let's see what topics we can discuss here! hmmm!
Posted by Sammy_boy
@milad - Welcome, enjoy your stay!
I guess Iran gets a lot of it's bad press for it's government, not it's people, who sound to be a good, honourable bunch. btw, isn't it a bit risky for you to be criticising your government, could they track you down and imprison you, or is that an eggageration by the Western media? (Which wouldn't surprise me!)
Youre right though, there does seem to be a lot of materialism about, too much in fact. It seems that people, certainly in western cultures, are measured not on who they are but on what they've got, and it's wrong.
Posted by milad_sm
hahaha! well said!
i guess i should be more careful with what i say! no you are right...they CAN track you! it's really creepy here. the spy network is just too good! i think they stole it from israel or something!
they have total control over MANY people...they are called basijis...they are voluntary people...they have brainwashed them and they do whatever the govt asks them to do. it's kinda silly...cuz they are actually very nice people. they are just not very bright! i know a lot them. but have to keep my distance!
it's not all that hard to live in iran. there's alot of limitations, but people know how to break them!! alcohol is absolutely forbidden...but people have learnt to make them at home!! pressure causes creativity! just like it served japanese and the germans, after the wars.
i am not totally against our government i must say. i am a muslim. i understand the principles of the islamic govt thing...but noooo! this is not the way to do it! they have got it all wrong!!
but come on. we had 8 damned years of war with Iraq...or no, with the world!! i donno if you remember, but the whole world was against a war that was imposed on us. we had no allies...we relied all on ourselves. again, pressure caused creativity and forced us to create and produce.
now, we still have that state of mind. now we are more cautious. they are saying the nuclear stuff is just for energy...but i hope not!! we need something to intimidate enemies!! how much more should we be squashed!! i am not supporting violence in NO WAY! but come on. the world doesn't work logically anymore! jungle rules again!
i just say this, i hate talking about thiese things! don't force me!! hehe!
i am here for my beloved p800!! i get away from talking politics as much as i can! cuz i don't understand it! it's moving too fast and it's too complex. (i guess that's why they call it politics! no one should know about it in the first place!)
btw, thanks for welcoming me!
Posted by Sammy_boy
No probs mate!
I hope when you say 'enemies' for threatening with nuclear weapons you don't mean us! Mind you, to be perfectly honest, it might make Bush think twice before starting on invading his next country, unfortunately Iran is going to be high on his hit list! That man (George Bush Jr.) is arguably the biggest threat to world peace for a long time.
Anyway, sorry, still talking about politics! On the subject of P800s, mine is currently away having it's firmware upgraded!
It keeps giving me that 'triangle of death' every so often, and doesn't seem to be getting on with Mini GPS which I'd installed on it. Damn useful piece of kit, I'll be glad to get it back in a fortnight or so 
Posted by whizkidd
This is Whizkidd saying hello to sammy_boy from India! The worlds largest democracy says hello to the worlds most powerful democracy !
Posted by milad_sm
wow! a fortnight! that's long...how come in US and Europe in general technical services are of such low quality?? in malaysia, you can get a firmware update the same day!! in iran, it's about 2-3 days...
even when you guys are talking about prices, it's so much higher...
that's irony to the fact that most of the tech comes from your side!!
like when i bought my 3650, ppl in finland hadn't even heard of it!!!
makes you wonder!!
other than that, i also haven't updated my phone yet
mostly cuz i can't be without a phone for 2-3 days!! hehe! i need to borrow one...in malaysia, they let you have a spare meanwhile! that was cool.
about minigps, i used it on symbian6, ie 3650...i just LOVED the idea...and used the profile changer for a while..but it's not rreally good if it's in a quite near distance..i mean one location was in some block, and the next location which i wanted my phone to go on silent, was on another block...not so near but still...neighbours...it kept changing the profiles continously, even when the phone was not moving!! on my desk! that bothered me and i uninstalled it.
is the new one any better?
i don't get the triangle of death much...but i really wanna use phillips camcorder! also, i like to have a zoom featureusing camerafx...though i know the quality sucks...
in 3650, photographer made the pic quality better somehow! is there such thing in p800??
Posted by Sammy_boy
@Whizzkid - thanks for the welcome!
Ta for saying we're the most powerful democracy in the world - but surely that honour would fall to the US? The UK has been an empire in decline since the end of WWII, though I'm hoping the rot's been stopped now.
There are some places here where you can get your firmware updated either the same day or within 2-3 days - it's just that there's no
service centre near me, so I took it to a Carphone Warehouse (large moble phone chain in the UK) and they're doing it for free - despite the P800 being over a year old, secondhand and not bought from them!
I'm using a 7650 at the moment as my backup phone, and have installed Mini GPS on that. You're right, it is a much better implementation. The signal strength indicator is to the nearest 1%, not the 15% or so jumps that the P800 does! Not played with the profiles thing yet though, may do soon though!
Posted by sOnicen
Please stop talking politics, this way offtopic
Posted by Krubach
So, what are the most recent phones you have there in Iran? the most used? (I guess the 3310 as all over the world
)
Is GPRS available. Let us know in which point cellphone technology in Iran is. Is 3G near?
Posted by BobaFett
Salaam to iran! Have a question too. What about /// fones in your country? Are they still to get? T28, r320, t39 or even older. Shukran!
Posted by milad_sm
'sup new people!
we did talk about the phones we have in iran and how much cheaper they are, compared to US and eurpoe in the previous page!
ya true...some people still have 3310...cuz it's cheap!! but people here have all the new stuff, even before you guys!! trust me on that!!
i have seen things here that i haven't even seen on the net!!
also, Samsung is very active in iran...Nokia is picking up, but still, people here prefer Samsung..mostly because samsung put Farsi (iranian language) in their phones first...
and good to see you are trying to communicate bobafett, but shukran is Arabic! and we are not arabs...we are Iranians, or Persians to be more accurate. our language is called Farsi. it's quite similar to arabic, to a foreigner i must say...we don't understand each other at all!! hehe!
GPRS is available...but too expensive......not woth it yet.
even SMS is new here!! let alone GPRS! you have to apply for it...it's not default....and it had lotsa problems at first...like you could somehow (didn't care how) you could read other people's SMSs.
but that's not the trouble..getting a line is!!! it costs about $1100 to get a SIM card!!!! can u believe that???
you can, get one by about $500...but you have to queue up for it for about a YEAR!!!
now in iran, almost everyone has a mobile...but they can't provide enough lines...sometimes, at some parts, we have coverage problems..but i think every country has that problem.
it's fine in general.
the most used phone here, is samsung...all models...
i see a LOT of 3650's these days...it's so cheap that many can afford it. but i have to say this, iranians are really into luxuries!! they like to get the best stuff they can afford.
no of SE phones is also increasing...i have seen many p800's...not so much p900, but a lot of p800s.
cheers!
Posted by BobaFett
@milan_sd thx :-)
Posted by Krubach
$1100 for a sim card? Is that US dollars?
Man, that's expensive!
Here in Portugal they give PAYG sim-cards for free with some 15 euros on it...
Networks are GSM, right? How 'bout 3G not in the near future?
Posted by milad_sm
ya, USD1100!! it's crazy!!
i was shocked when I came to Iran as well! i stole my moms!! hehe!
ya, GSM.....
i dun think 3g will ever come here!!! the moment it comes, quote chandler from Friends "we will all be wearing silver jackets and have our own spaceships!"
yes my friend...our only telecom company is public...so, i wouldn't count on it!! i donno when they are gonna let private companies start working. in malaysia, you could get the best services...in a country with 22 million people, there was i think 6 companies...all quite successful, so much that boss of one of them is 20th richest guy in the world. i think it's a big deal!
Posted by whizkidd
Goodness gracious ! That much money would buy me two P800s! But here in india you can get a connection for less than a dollar! With gprs connectivity the monthly expense would be around 10 to 12 dollars. But now even that is free here. Both gprs and mms are free till september. Mms is always free !
Posted by milad_sm
why is the number of my posts messed up!!
come on I want an avatar!!
Posted by Krubach
Posts on regional forums and garbage forum are cleaned up at the end of the day.
Posted by sOnicen
milad_sm: do u have good coverage in "lavasan" ? =)
im off to iran tomorrow
Posted by milad_sm
sOnicen, i've not been there lately...
but i am sure SE does have excellent coverage with no problems!
enjoy your trip man! oh wait, you are not coming with Iran Air are you?!
those planes are expired!! only if US could let us buy some!! our only choice is old russian planes! pfff....
sOnicen, have no worried about coverage...the only place i am having trouble is around Mirdamad, and Vanak...inside buildings with heavy concrete....other than that is fine...
Posted by sOnicen
unfortunately we are traveling with Iran Air. I hope i get to tehran in one piece.
I have another question, i need a 128mb mem stick duo for my z1010
do u know where they sell those in iran? any idea what it can cost?
chakkerim
Posted by milad_sm
you can get a memstick anywhere really...
the lowest price i have in Jomhoori, is about 60k...about$80...
i am still waiting for mine, which costed me about $60..(special occasion!)
chamanim!
Posted by sOnicen
i thought it would be cheaper in iran..
a 128mb duo costs $49 here in sweden