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Posted by knight4led
@Miss UK, I did a little research about PAYG in the US, and both major GSM carriers have expirations on their minutes. T-Mobile gives you an actual minute count and Cingular gives you a certain amount of money and a rate per minute and a rate for SMS.


Posted by RichLok
No... just basing it on the specs and design of the phone.. I had a k700 before and really liked it.

Posted by Residentevil
Then the K750i should be for you.

Posted by RichLok
$420 for a brand new k750i... I'm selling my s710a . Then I'll baby the k750i till the w800 is out!

Posted by knight4led
seems pretty reasonable. I guess this new batch of s finally brought the price down. Should make these phones a little more competitive.

EDIT: $389 at myworldphone.com. I'd say buy there.
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[ This Message was edited by: knight4led on 2005-06-16 00:54 ]

Posted by Miss UK
Quote:

On 2005-06-15 00:34:02, knight4led wrote:
@Miss UK, I did a little research about PAYG in the US, and both major GSM carriers have expirations on their minutes. T-Mobile gives you an actual minute count and Cingular gives you a certain amount of money and a rate per minute and a rate for SMS.




K ... so if you don't use the simwith mins etc what happens? would they cut it off

I mean no op should terminate a sim if you have credit on it surely

lol been a very very longtime since I was on Prepey

Hiya Richlok... you mema me

Posted by knight4led
yeah, even if you have credit, your SIM will expire if not used.

Posted by Miss UK
God thats so camp

why can't they just be like Orange UK.. they don't do nuttin to the sim, or I could be wrong it's been a while since I even used PAYG

Posted by RichLok
Did i mention the $420 price is tax included?? I might also be able to drop $20 off of it cuz it's coming from a friend of mine (he's an Agent).

Posted by Miss UK
Richlok why you dissing me

Posted by amagab
See that you are discussing K750i...what kind of protocols does the browser support here in the US....with T-Mobile?



Posted by knight4led
has anybody here actually used a K750 in the US?

Posted by RichLok
Quote:

On 2005-06-18 03:15:13, miss uk wrote:
Richlok why you dissing me




How am I dissing u???
Missed me??

Posted by fone dude
there aren't any local shops in the US to buy a K750 right?
seems like there are too many bugs with the K750... where could yousend this phone if it has problems?
thanx!

Posted by rj
ive used the k750i, didnt really like it.. im sticking with my imate jam

it's been a while since i posted here.. way back cingular days! lol

Posted by knight4led
where exactly did you pick up a jam in the US?

Posted by fone dude
you can find them at online shops
http://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_jam-963.php
(click CHECK PRICE links..)

Posted by rambalu80
I am using the K750i with Cingular service and it is awesome. I live in the New England area, I travelled to Florida and the Carolinas and I am extremely satisfied with it. I was using my K700i until I bought my K750i and now I am waiting on the W800i! SE Rocks!

Posted by fone dude
i thought you needed 850 MHz for Cingular! how is K750 reception?

Posted by RichLok
Quote:

On 2005-06-22 18:23:10, rambalu80 wrote:
I am using the K750i with Cingular service and it is awesome. I live in the New England area, I travelled to Florida and the Carolinas and I am extremely satisfied with it. I was using my K700i until I bought my K750i and now I am waiting on the W800i! SE Rocks!



Sweet.. That's what I've been waiting to hear.. Probably going to go get my k750 sometime this week and wait out on the w800.

Posted by rambalu80
Cingular has 850 MHz in several areas, but my K750i picks up reception from the AT&T towers most of which are 1900 MHz. You can always use the following link to check the frequencies in your area:
http://wirelessadvisor.com/checkzip.cfm
If you see Cingular with 1900 MHz, then you know the K750i would work. But I can say for sure that I cannot expect my K750i to work in all parts of the country!

[ This Message was edited by: rambalu80 on 2005-06-23 01:19 ]

Posted by fone dude
rambalu80, thanks for the link - that's interesting!

i wish SE would make quad-band phones, that would fix any holes in the US network, right?

Posted by knight4led
there are a few quad-band phones available through Cingular. Some of the Motos are quad-band and the Treos are both quad-band. There are a few others as well.

Posted by fone dude
knight4led,
i don't necessarily need a quad-band, just thought it would be nice to have for traveling or if i wanted to switch carriers.

what i really want is a K750, which i know is compatible with my T-mobile account. but i'm afraid the phone has too many bugs and i can't easily return it!
so i guess i'll just have to wait for all the K750 problems to get fixed or look for something else. worse things have happened

Posted by REO
I'm in Central Florida. 850MHz and 1900MHz



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[ This Message was edited by: REO on 2005-06-24 18:48 ]

Posted by ADT0079
@REO WHERE Tampa. Pasco.orlando im in tampa.


Posted by REO
In Orlando.

@rambalu80 How was the reception in FL? Where did you stay in FL?


Posted by rambalu80
I was at Ft. Lauderdale and Miami. Reception was awesome and I know it is pretty darn good all the way down the Keys. There are some parts of North Central Florida that you may not be able to use the 1900 MHz. It works great in the Orlando and Tampa areas too though.

As far as I know, all major cities have both 850 MHz and 1900 MHz on Cingular and most of these could be the old AT&T towers. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[ This Message was edited by: rambalu80 on 2005-06-24 21:52 ]

Posted by Residentevil
The question is if those 1900mhz tower are going away in the future and if Cingular is pushing more it's 850mhz band?

Posted by rambalu80
Well, if the 1900 MHz towers are going away in the future, all of us with the phones that use 1900 MHz, 1800 MHz and 900 MHz will be doomed if we stick with Cingular. Hopefully T-Mobile will have a wider network with 1900 MHz all over the nation and our contracts will be up and that will help us switch to T-Mobile! Else we will have to go with phones that can handle the 850 MHz frequency.

Posted by gr3gg0
anyone where if theres a site with maps of where and what frequency or something?

Posted by amagab
I doubt that Cingular will do away with the 1900mhz....then they'll loose all roaming partners.

Posted by gr3gg0
and everyone with a 900/1800/1900 phone

Posted by REO
I was on website a few days ago that showed where all the 850 and 1900 coverage was, on a Cingular map of the U.S. , Canada, P.R. , virgin Islands.

I'll see if I can find it again. Most coverage is 1900, although the midwest has 850 in certain locations.

If you have a 850/1800/1900 phone, no problems with signal regardless of where you are.

900/1800/1900 phones, will fail in a 850 location. It all depends wether you have no need to be in any of the 850 locations.

Posted by gr3gg0
if u could find that i would be most grateful...im in toronto if it helps and rili wana kno if my phone will work or not

Posted by REO
Which phone are you talking about?

Posted by knight4led
I don't think the 1900 sites are gonna go anywhere, there are far too many of them. If anything Cingular might stop putting up 1900 sites, but I doubt they would start removing them. Don't get too worried.

Posted by REO
Here is a map of 850 / 1900 Cingular covearge U.S. , Canada .

Allow for this map to populate all coverage areas.
( Acrobat Document )

http://www.cingular.com/download/GPRS_coverage_leg.pdf




Posted by gr3gg0
@REO

was taking about k750i...im either gettin it or waiting for w800

Posted by RichLok
In regards to the westcoast (where Cingular invested about 1 Billion in improving the 1900 network a few years back), the 1900 band has been purchased by T-mobile and it's in a 4 year rental agreement by Cingular (while they improve the 850 band that AT&T started there). This means that no matter where in the states that you're at, if you have a nationwide plan, you will not see a decrease in 1900 mhz coverage.

Posted by REO
Apparently it seems they are leaning towards the 850 due to the signal strenght. Below is a cut and paste directly from their website.


Expanding Network Reach and Quality
During the last 12 months, we have added or improved 15,000 cell sites, including those added through roaming agreements in major cities with Cingular Wireless and other GSM carriers. We have more than doubled our national GSM/GPRS coverage area so that it is now includes approximately 1.2 million square miles in the United States.* In addition to expanding our network reach, we continue to aggressively improve the quality of our GSM network. In many major markets, we have installed hardware and software to improve our customers' wireless usage experiences. The new hardware and software allow callers with compatible GSM/GPRS devices to use the 850-megahertz band of the radio spectrum, which generates a stronger signal than the 1900-megahertz band, travels over larger areas and penetrates walls better. Overall, these network enhancements will improve call quality across the nation. As a result of this upgrade, signal strength has improved, even in buildings. Secure wireless access†
Cingular employs sophisticated authentication and data encryption features to enhance:
Protection of User Identities
Protection of IP Addresses
Protection of data transmitted
Device Options
One of the advantages of using the global GSM standard is that Cingular offers more flexible device options including:
BlackBerry® Handhelds

PocketPC

Smartphones

palmOne™

PC Card Modems

Specialized devices

*Our network includes areas we own and operate and areas owned and/or operated by other carriers. Coverage is double the national GSM/GPRS coverage area that was available last year. Compatible device with 850 MHz required to take full advantage of improvements.
† Secure wireless access refers to the authentication and encryption features available on the Cingular network, including Network Access Authentication, GPRS Ciphering, and GPRS Encryption Algorithm.


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Posted by Miss UK
Quote:

On 2005-06-21 06:51:15, RichLok wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-06-18 03:15:13, miss uk wrote:
Richlok why you dissing me




How am I dissing u???
Missed me??




Hail yeah! where ya been?

Posted by REO
Is there anyone on this thread using a K750 on Cingular service?

Or a 1900 Mhz phone on Cingular? ( U.S. )

Posted by knight4led
I think ResidentEvil uses a P900, but I don't know if he is on Cingular or T-Mobile.

I remember reading about several people using K700s in the US, but I don't think many of them are regulars in this thread.

Posted by Residentevil
I am a die hard T-Mobile fan.

Posted by superunknown
How are you guys? I'll be on vegas on july 4. Anyone there?

Posted by REO
@Residentevil

Does T Mobile use any other band with besides 1900?

Posted by RichLok
Quote:

On 2005-06-28 01:56:05, miss uk wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-06-21 06:51:15, RichLok wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-06-18 03:15:13, miss uk wrote:
Richlok why you dissing me




How am I dissing u???
Missed me??




Hail yeah! where ya been?




I've been hiding in caves lately.. LOL.. I'm back though. Probably not as often as I would like but what can I do?

Posted by knight4led
what you can do is find time for us fine people here on Esato...

Posted by RichLok
That's why i came back! ;-)


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