Posted by anonymous1
Hi all,
Went out yesterday and bought a 6600 on orange contract. Took the phone home and there was a stuck red flashing pixel right in the centre of the screen. So took it back only for it to be swapped for another 6600 with a dead pixel. They didn't have any more in stock in any branches locally so they told me to take it and when they get a new batch in they said they would call.
Later I then realised that there was a flashing stuck pixel as well, which I noticed when loading up a very dark picture. So two phones in one day with dead, or stuck pixels.
On top of this the phone supports nothing! My bf tried sending me a wav file, which the phone recognised but did not play, and he also sent me an .mpeg4 movie file from his p900, which was was not supported.
Other problems....
On two occasions the phone has had an error where it has had to exit out of the folder that I was in and its re-booted itself once. Whats the story?
I like the phone a lot but all this has put me right off. Out of the box its not compatible with anything and I reckon loads of money will need to be spent buying apps to make it have compatibility with other phones.
SE, Motorola and Samsung all can share MP3's, .wav files, and other phones support mp4 and gif. why not the nokia?? Its supposed to be a smart phone.
What do you all reckon I should do?
I know most ppl here hate Nokia phones. I still can give it back under the 14 day money back gaurantee.
Posted by SnowBear
give it back and buy an qtek 8080 or P900 NOkia is not a phone you want over priced shit !
Posted by energetic
Like I have said in another thread your grenade(mobile) exploded.
Anyway I respect the fact that you have spend your money for this phone that you like. If I were you I would ask from Nokia to replace the phone since you have spend all this money for this. For that amount and worth you deserve a very good service from them and you have every right from them to find a solution.
Posted by bart
is it that hard to listen to othere people? it would be much nicer and easy if you would just ask us for advice when you buy a new phone. the 6600 is not good at all, better get a P800 or P900. its much more advanced and you wouldn't have to say that your feeling sad for buying that nokia that isn't doing what you had expected
Posted by anonymous1
Thanks for replying guys
Bart.. I don't like the look of the p800 and p900 because of the stylus operation. I want a phone kind of look. I've always been with SE in the past, and if they had a phone style smart phone i would have bought it.
The p900 craps on the nokia in every sense of the word accept for taking video clips and photos. We tested them both and the nokia won.
There doesn't seem to be anything else on the market! And I dont want a PDA style phone. The SX1's keypad just looks crap and Sendo will not be released till April!
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Posted by SnowBear
Qtek 8080
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My English Are Bad And For That Im Sorry
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Posted by DragonEye
Learn about the phone before you bash it...
it does support wav file..
does not support mp3 or mp4. it does support 3gp
in order for mp3 and 4's to play you'll need a third party app. like pvplayer and ultra mp3.
the 6600 is useless without third party apps. unlike the p series which has stock applcations that can get you by.
p900 mp4's will not work because of 2 things.. size, 6600 craps out on the dimensions and teh way it is encoded. espsically if it's the mp4's that were made on this site that are optimized for the p900.
i realize you guys all love SE.. but the 6600 is a great device and very powerful if you have the right blend of third party apps.
think of it this way the p800/900 isn't really that great until you have a tracker or handy day running on it.
if you need a list of third party apps to get started i'll help you out.
1)task manager
2)seleq or fexplorer
3)ultra mp3
4)pvplayer
if you want more help just post.
the dead pixels thing has been an issue...can;t help you there
and please don't start talking garbage about motorola and samsung being able to share data. That's crap.
only SE and Siemens and nokia SERIES 60's are able to share data freely. most moto's don't even have irda.they require yo to use a stupid datacable and a software that their programers use. (moto pst or whatever) crap! the v600 has retarded bt and samsung have crippled irda's like nokia phones.
and recently the z200 has a semi crippled irda port as well.
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Posted by anonymous1
DragonEye- If it supports wav files why the heck does it not play wav files sent to the phone????
I've had a wav file sent from a p900 and it didn't play. Used bluetooth to send a standard small wav file at 16 bit 44.1 kHz and that too did not play!
I know I need 3rd party apps and I stated that in my post... I'd need loads of them to even get the phones compatibility up to a good standard. Where is support for mp4, .gif, mp3, .doc etc?
What pisses me off is this is Nokia's top of the range symbian phone and its compatibility is SHIT out of the box! The p900 supports far more file formats without having to spend more money and time downloading.
Also in my last post I said something about compatability between samsung, moto and SE. I should have made myself clearer so that ppl like you dont start saying im chatting garbage!...
I know samsung phones are crap in terms of features, particulraly there lack of bluetooth and good functionality but even the latest samsungs can bloody play mp3 and wav files as standard. Even if I donwloaded an mp3 player I cant' have mp3 ringtones.
I have friends with v600, p900 and a samsung and they all can share music files between them and there is no problem sharing video clips between the p900 and v600.
I've already started using my t610 again. The 6600 is in the box ready to go back to orange tommorrow cos the final straw was when it decided to re-boot itself and get stuck two more times! i've only had it a day. Never had these problems with my SE phones. Not saying SE are perfect but least they worked. The first time I've had to give a phone back because it was too tempremental.... had to be a Nokia, which is a shame cos i did like the look and feel.
I'm not denying the phone may be decent with downloadable apps but I'm not sticking around to find out cos I reckon if i keep it the dam thing will be in repair all the time!
You say the v600 has retarted bt.. seemed to work perfectly fine when I used it.
Posted by madaboutphones
id have to agree with snowbear on this one
if you want a smartphone that actually looks like a phone then the SPV e100 or now the e200 would be a good option
the e200 has been upgraded from the e100 so that it can record video clips as well as take photos
microsoft pocket and woteva MS office youve got should sync no problems
its also got memory card slot so you can upgrade mem. size
ask me personally - P900 ALL THE WAY!!!!
Posted by DragonEye
which samsung are you using? cause i'd really like to know.... all sammie's i know of have crippled irda. s300, s200, e715 etc..etc..
a wav file should play if you sent it to the inbox the recorder program should open and play it. (i don't have your phone in front of me so i can't help you on that) but wav's do work out of the box.
yes the new wave of moto's have better connectivity... moto bt is very unstable if you ask me. it craps out a lot from my testing and many people agree. eventhough it is getting better.
i realize that your upset that your 6600 doesn't do everything straight out of the box... but nobody claimed it did in the first place.
all i'm saying was you post just seemed like you were nokiahating just cause esato is an SE forum...
nokia never said this supported mp4, gif or mp3. so why do you assume it does? just casue it's a smartphone?
love it or hate it third party apps will solve most of your problems
i can send you tons of wav files if you want to double check?
i personally hate the M/S operating system
i had a mio mietc and mpx200 and thjey crashed all the time.
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Posted by *Jojo*
@anonymous 1- how come the fone (n6600) has a problem on it? I've never seen that kind of a problem with the n6600s here in Manila, was that a factory defect? If so, then have the unit replaced, if still covered by warranty. I like the n6600 model too. If would be replaced, an SE P900 is the best alternative here, but since you don't 100% like it, better look for a samsung replacement.
Posted by orange
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Just one correction. 6600 supports MPEG-4 VSP and also 3GP (H.263) and RealMedia.
Posted by anonymous1
To be honest I wish i could keep the phone but its so unstable. At the end of the day I could have downloaded the apps, its the bugs I'm having real problems with.
Posted by d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z
i think it depends on the phones that orange has. maybe it has the old firmware and the 1st version. the ones in europe are different from the ones being released in asia.
my t616 has a dead pixel the day i got it and i also had it reflashed to the latest firmware due to it was giving me headaches. if you can have your 6600 flashed to the lastest firmware then maybe the problems will disappear if not then be minimized.
the p900 also has problems for i have been reading every post about it here that's why i won't get one but will get the nokia 6620 once it comes out here.
Posted by djk
I was a Sony Ericsson phone user and wanted to buy a P900, but now I'm using 6600.
Reasons:
1. 6600 is much cheaper! It lets me feel that it is worth.
2. 6600 uses MMC instead of expensive MSD. I have a few MMC.
3. P900 voice recorder can't record calls.
4. 6600 is stable.
5. More applications and games for Series 60.
I'm not a die-hard fans. Even if there are many people hate Nokia in all ways, but I would really like to say here, 6600 is a good smart phone (can I say "Smartphone"? Is it registered by Microsoft?).
I haven't really used P900 so I cannot tell is it a good phone. But I just know that 6600 is not as bad as so many Sony Ericsson fans say. It is unexpectedly stable, at least much more stable than my T610. It has a nice screen, very nice feeling when I was holding it on my hand, good camera for a phone at this moment, good user-interface (Series 60 is really good in my opinion) and it is so easy to use and to be personalized.
Please be objective and don't just blame on a model or praise a model on just one side.
Posted by anonymous1
Well how can I check the firmware version on my 6600? Also I hate all the orange crap built in the software including the screensaver and orange icons.... if the phone gets flashed will all this go? If not how can I get rid of it all?
If I install mobiclip what file formats will it let me view on the phone? And what is Fexplorer all about? Thanks.
Also how can I delete the whole contacts of my inbox and other sms folders? Have I missed something out here cos i have to delete each SMS individually!
[ This Message was edited by: anonymous1 on 2004-01-29 11:30 ]
Posted by Ayush
Now you have started to hate everything! I think you need a phone without a contract.
Posted by anonymous1
What is up with everyone... my first post DID NOT SAY I HATE NOKIAS! If anything I said I LIKE THE PHONE!... and because of that I'm gonna give it another chance. Anyway if anyone can answer my above post that would be helpful as i've already done a search and can't find the information that I need.
Posted by Ayush
What i meant was your reference to your not liking the orange personalisation. See you will get that on any contract phone.
Posted by DragonEye
mobiclip only plays .mb files... and you 'll have to use ...a avi convetor.
pvplayer and pvauthor are the best for simpleiet and shareable data.
but mobiclip files have the best video and soudn quality by far.
i loved my 6600 but the O/s was terribly slow compared to my old 3650... hope they speed it up.. i also had a 256 mmc which slowed it down even more.
Posted by djk
@DragonEye
Hi, nice to meet you here.
Are you using a beautiful theme? I find that when you use a theme with heavy images, the phone will slow down a lot. However, once I change back to normal / default themes, the speed becomes alright.
Posted by mmsman
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are you sure about this one
Posted by DragonEye
n6600 never crashed..naybe once when i tried to run an ngage game... my 3650 did once or twice and gave me a please contact opertor message.
no the 6600 is brutally slow... with a 256 mmc.. don't even bother.
theme or no theme... i learned to work aorudn it when i had it.. for example if you leave the menu open in the task manager it speeds up a bit..but in generaly very very slow. just try open your pics in the gallery and you'll see what i mean. to get around that i got a new app... i can't remember the name. photosomething..... that coudl display all the pics at once like the p800/900..and that was fast
Posted by shlomo
I know where you coming from because i had the same problem with the 6600 i flushed it and now its great. Overall nokia makes the best phones. Sorry se but its true.
Posted by DragonEye
the speed becomes alright.
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notice... you used alright
Posted by djk
@mmsman
Yes. I think my 6600 is much much more stable than all my previous Sony Ericsson phones. I didn't expect this but it is really true. It has just hanged a very very few times (may be 1-2 times, I have forgetten). It is not easy to make it hangs in normal use.
By the way, to be honest, I remeber that my 6600 has switched off itself for 2 times. I don't know the reason. Maybe no battery, maybe the switch off button is accidentally pressed or maybe the phone has some failures.
Well my 6600 is fast in my opinion, and I used to close all applications (including call list and contact) when it is in standby mode. Also, it is quite normal when you open a large photos in gallery as the phone will have a real-time processing.
Posted by o0xskaterx0o
if all fails you should get an e200. very good ergonomics and a similar menu to se phones (in terms of shorcuts e.g 2, 2, 2 gets to sms inbox etc) cant wait for mine to be delivered.
Posted by codename_47
I had the 6600 before i got the P900 a few days ago. And I must say the 6600 is a damn good fone, i wouldnt have bought the P900 if my old 3650 hadnt been stolen(though i had wanted the P900 for some time) But the 6600 is actually a very stable fone, lots of 3rd party applications and a very nice camera(better than the P900) The P900 might be a little better, but it does cost 2500Kr. more(about 200£ i guess) So i wouldn't say that the 6600 is a bad phone. Especially not concidering(?) the price
PS. Sorry for my english.
Posted by anonymous1
I've decided to wait for the Sendo X, which according to Sendo themselves should be released in March sometime (latest email I recieved from them) It will either be full of bugs or it will be a damn good phone!
I reckon they will have to make it bug free though because they don't have a reputation like Nokia. Nokia can release anything and it will sell because its Nokia and they can get away with dodgy firmware, but Sendo won't. Just my 2 pence.
Posted by 701
I will sell my t610 soon and buy a 6600 as i realised that here is only 400$..and i can get 270$ on my t610!
For its features, it's cheap...i don't like Nokia but i consider doing the switch cuz it's so cheap!
Posted by anonymous1
PART 2 OF MY STORY........
Hi all.. so I decided to give the phone a chance. Took the orange piece of crap back under the 14 day returns policy and bought a 6600 on Vodafone, which when bought from the link is a standard GSM unbranded phone.
Luckily this one had no pixel problems or software problems. My orange ones must have been faulty cos this one works like a charm
I actually prefer this phone to a P900 due to size, the camera, the video clips and the GUI. Where the phone is let down is the quality of the speaker and headphones, but overall its good.
Posted by DragonEye
the sendo will probably be just like the SX1... a failure.but i'm hoping to see good things from it.
after all you are using series 60 which is pretty much nokia's