Posted by Hajaj
Nearly everything with a processor in it can be overclocked: Pocket calculators, PDAs, PCs, etc. etc.
So why shouldn't it be possible to overclock a mobile phone?
The T68(i)'s processor offers a speed about ~12Mhz, the T610(630) has a processor running at ~32Mhz.
I think the range the devices can be overclocked are:
T68(i): ~ 20 - 25 Mhz
T610(630): ~ 40 - 45 Mhz
So we need a hardware genius with an old T68(i) (or new T630
) who tries overclocking a device by modifying the hardware a bit.
I couldn't be hard to do but one must know HOW to do.
Post your ideas, comments here.
greetz, hajaj
Posted by Universal Exports
What is overclocking?
Posted by Hajaj
@overclocking: You are increasing the core speed of the processor and/or other hardware and so you are getting more speed. For example a processor that is "originally built" for 12Mhz can be run at 14Mhz...
Posted by Universal Exports
Ok, yes the T68i would certainly need it
Posted by stewie
t68i is fast enough,it could be faster when writting messages.for my needs - enough.
Posted by CrackerJack
A lot of us are already complaining that the phone's battery doesn't last that long. Overclocking the processor would use up the available power more quickly.
Plus, heat would be an issue. An overclocked processor generates more heat than one running at it's rated speed. And batteries being drained more quickly also produces more heat.
I, for one would like a faster hardware on my phone. Java/mophun apps would load faster. But I wouldn't want a warm phone in my pants pocket.
Just my two cents worth.
Posted by 701
I dont think that a 12mhz processor can generate so much heat that u can feel it. Take the t610-do u feel any heat? Also they have no cooler,no need. The battery can b an issue but i doubt it would b an issue if u overclocking it from 12 to 15. Other than these,why would u need an overclocked phone? A pc i can c but a phone? Neah! :D
Posted by vdhth
Overclock processor of gsm product can cause electromagnetic wave and reduce reception !
Posted by CrackerJack
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The T610 processor is running at a faster clock speed, compared to a T68i. But it is still being used/run at its rated capacity, that is why you don't feel any warmth radiating from your phone.
Posted by Paranoid
I don't think that there is an heat problem by oc when it is't more them it is... But i am thinking that it might be possibly th upgrade the processer, like to take the cpu from the 610/630 and use in the 68i...
Posted by rudeboymcc
even if you do overclock the phone then it will become more unstable than it already is. i've tried it with a pc and unless you spend hundreds of pounds and have hardware which is designed to be overclocked (and phones aren't) then you'll just make your phone crash all the time.
but its a good thought.
Posted by Paranoid
The main reson that pc's get unstable when you oc's it is becourse of the heat... I an oc all that i can get out of my computer and it don't get unstable... But i also know when it can't take anymore... :-DBut an change of cpu in the phone will work if the connections are the same... That we only can see on the blueprints of the cpu...
Posted by Alf Nif
I don't know how far the technology have reached but earlier when they programmed for simple processors like mobile phones they calculated the time by checking how many cycles has gone.
So if you overclock a phone, wouldn't the time go much faster and the phone think a call is longer than it actually is?
Posted by Hajaj
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Nowadays the realtimeclock runs seperate from the processor. So overclocking won't result in a false time
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@other_postings:
Forget an exchange of the processor. How will you realize that? And: Think about compability
.
Posted by ppcrockar
First of all replacing the cpu in the phone is impossible. We're talking about cpu cores that are located in a chip with other non cpu functions. And also we're talking about chips soldered to a circuitboard with at least 8 layers. The chips are most likely BGA-chips which has all the small pins/\"balls\" under the chip.Secondly overclocking the phone would most likely render the phone useless since gsm timings etc probably are derived from the cpu clock.
Posted by Paranoid
Well then we will have a problem... I don't know how we can hardware oc, becourse when you oc an computer you do it from the bios and it is like software... So i belive that we need to tangle with the phones bios (if they have one)... Else we need the blueprint of ether the processer or the phone to know what to change to oc the phones...
Posted by Tombra
Why bother? Much work/truble, and hardly any more speed...there wil be faster phones soon anyway
Posted by Merovingian
after reading all of this, i totaly agree with TOMBRA... it is no need to overclock a phone ( it's by the way not possible either) when it's coming faster and faster phones out on the market almost every month now...
Posted by batesie
p900 has a 32bit ARM9 processor that clocks at around 156mhz. could this be overclocked?
Posted by wapchimp
lol. I can see where this will lead. We will all be going on about clear cases and flouresent lights for our mobiles!
Posted by batesie
an old one but good one to dig out the esato archive....
Posted by Residentevil
On a computer the cpu's clock speed can be easily adjusted with jumper settings. But in a phone I doubt it. All we need to do is crack one open and look. I don't think it is worth the effort for a speed increase that is mabe unrecognizable minimal if any at all.
Posted by shyam335
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you can always pump in more voltage ,its easier (and riskier). t610 uses arm processor,right?
Posted by whizkidd
Afaik, windows mobile based pdas can be overclocked.
Posted by wrecked_porsche
Even Palm powered ones can be overclocked. My Plam Tungsten T3 runs on a stock 400mhz Intel processor, but when I play graphics intensive games I overclock it to 5++Mhz
Nice
Posted by hyperken
why need to overclock?
i dont get it >.<
any program in your phone that you cannot handle with normal speed?
Posted by don_vercetti
Upping the voltage would be stupid, it would seriously dent the battery life. I know it's very possible to overclock PDA's, my PC is overclocked by a 1ghz using just air, so it's very possible. The t610 is hardly hot at all, it operates at room temperature since it is passively cooled, and the CPU hardly needs any voltage.
However, obviously, BIOS and jumper switches are not an option, you would need to physically solder the mainboard. Assuming a phone is anything like a computer, it will have a clock generator, on the mainboard, and then the CPU will run on a multiplier.
Upping the clock generator would make the whole phone faster, and would probably result in instability almost straight away, as well as things like the clock being run out of sync, unless they've made it independant. Increasing the multiplier on the CPU would be the best option, but (again, assuming it's like a PC) the smallest option is in half multipliers. Now i have no idea if it is a clock gen of 16, and a multi of 2, or a clockgen of 32, with 1x multi. Basically, if its the second then we could get a clock of 48mhz, which is probably aiming a bit high. With the first, then you would get to 40mhz, which seems reasonable. On t610, java games would noticeable improve i suspect, but beyond that, it's rather pointless for most purposes, other than "my t610's faster than yours nah nah" (which is a perfectly good reason, IMHO).
Posted by batesie
anyone overclocked there P900?