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Posted by phpro
What do you guys think of the N-Gage?

N-Gage Forum
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Posted by Jim
Piece of crap, sincerely, I had two in my hands in a shop ( demonstartion ) the first was out of order ( crashed ) the second crashed after 2seconds of use and poor built quality !!!

Posted by panlek
I don't like it, too.

Posted by artemiy
I think it is good. And that n-gages in your shop were made in china. I think. Quality depends on where it was built too.

Posted by Flying Finn
I have one. I love it ;) See my thread about it in the reviews forum :D

Posted by Jim
I don't know it was during my vacation in the USA in a EBgames shop

Posted by 701
If i need a game console,i'll buy a Sony PS. But4now,i have a phone..see the 'signs'

Posted by Universal Exports
@Jim
Pice of crap! I would certainly not call it that! I'd call it pice of taco

Posted by phpro
I think its great as a general gadet, It slike having an MP3 player, a radio and a games console (allbeit a crappy 1) in your pocket. When somthing tries to do everything then each of its individual functions get worse!

Posted by Vlammetje
personally.... my need for a good PHONE is much much bigger than my need for a games console... and as a phone I find it very inconvenient. So I am no fan of N-Gage.

Posted by Flying Finn
I play the same .sis and Java games on my N-Gage as people play on their 3650's and 6600's. The N-Gage is just cheaper. What I really like about it is the music and Internet/IM/IRC features.

Posted by Flying Finn
These forums look pretty nice with its XHTML browser and the big screen.

Posted by Jim
@Flying Finn:
Ah come on, for years the only sites that we could find was for nokia, their are thousands sites/forum/community whatever, every time I looked for images for my Ericsson T39m I stumbled on pure Nokia pages, even with ERICSSON in google it gave me nokia.

It has allways been Nokia, I see it with my operator, images/ringtones/games only for nokia, there is a menu for tother phones but guess what , nothing in there !. Now that finally there is a site about SE phones and with free stuffs for us some Nokia fans has to post everytime how crap SE is and Nokia is the best.

How it will be if we SE fans come to nokia forums and do the same ! I hate that, just stop with it, if you like Nokia go to your thousands of forums but please let this one be ours ! Thanks.

Posted by red-mdc
Jim well said m8 i respect u 4 that!the n-gage is pure crap ne way the games are realy slow processed! U press a buton and it reacts a sec later

Posted by fijbert
after hvin it for 3 weeks
I can safely say that it is very buggy
the Mp3 player worked at random

besides that.. everything was fine and great (also locking the keypad was a whore)
I'd recommend it to a non-biz/non-mobile savvy person

Posted by phpro
What do you meen non mobile savvy?

Surely a mobile with all those features requires someone competant??

Oh and can you help me answer this one:

http://gamedeck.co.uk/board/index.php?s=9e149056dd226c3a64cab3c0760aaefe&showtopic=12


Thanks


Posted by Flying Finn
Like I've said a million times I come here because there's people here who talk bullshit about Nokia but have hardly ever tried the phones in question. I don't HATE SE. I hate SE users who talk more about Nokia than they know. I don't come here to bash SE, I come to defend Nokia because your knowledge about it has proved to be ridiculously poor. Any of you narrow minded SE-using Nokia haters are welcome to any Nokia forum because NOKIA USERS DON'T HATE SE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The N-Gage for example. If it's a piece of crap, then the 3650 must be too (which is funny because it's the best selling Symbian device) as they are almost identical software wise. The other adds a camera and the other adds music & gaming features. It can be buggy atm I agree but that will be fixed as the FW versions develop. But the features really are good. The keypad takes getting used to but it requires extremely little force to use. The softkeys and the rocker key also work like a dream. As does the Series 60 UI which you know nothing about. WAP/Internet is good, IRC/MSN/ICQ/AOL is good, MMS is good, BT is good, ringtones are good, MP3's are good, FM radio is good, BUILD QUALITY IS GOOD (no creaking.). The games I've tried are good. Especially Flo Boarding which is a free game by Nokia. The 3D graphics are excellent (no delays), especially the lightning effects.But you just want to hate the thing. Because it's a Nokia. You can make all the fun you want about it looking like a taco but if you knew anything about Symbian and smartphones, you couldn't just say it's a piece of crap. Because there's more to it than just the odd poor-graphics game you've maybe tried.

I currently have the 3.30 firmware in my N-Gage and everything works. I'm especially fond of the stereo headset. MP3's sound AWESOME through it. You can skip to the next song (or channel if you listen to the radio) by pressing the button on the headset. The music automatically stops when someone calls and the headset can be set to auto-answer. It also supports voice commands.

Posted by sn3ipen
No nokia phones have inbuilt radio. Maybe they call it a innbuilt radio it isnt. the radio is on the outside off the phone and you have to conect it to the phone to make it work. The only thing nokia done whas to include it with the phone and make a menu that is named radio. Then they called it a inbuilt radio and sold like hell.

Posted by phpro
Flying Fnn is correct, i mean look at the post above saying about the FM radio being an atachment, they have ov never had one becasue it is built in!!

Try it before you bash it!

Posted by BlackBauer24
Tried it bashed it, the P900 kills all known nokia phones DEAD!

Posted by Yaesu
not really my kind of phone felt like having a frizbee next to my ear :-)

Posted by Jim
@Flying Finn: read my post again, thats all what I have to say, my point was clear ! Oh yes, I have something to add, again -> "How it will be if we SE fans come to nokia forums and do the same ! I hate that, just stop with it, if you like Nokia go to your thousands of forums but please let this one be ours ! Thanks"

@red-mdc: thanks m8

Posted by phpro
Apart from the 3650, the smaller size of th e3650 makes up for the lack of a touch screen! and the 3650 can record sound with its video!

Posted by Flying Finn
Quote:

On 2003-12-03 22:34:52, speedooh wrote:
No nokia phones have inbuilt radio. Maybe they call it a innbuilt radio it isnt. the radio is on the outside off the phone and you have to conect it to the phone to make it work. The only thing nokia done whas to include it with the phone and make a menu that is named radio. Then they called it a inbuilt radio and sold like hell.




Looking at you makes me think this forum is full of pathetic losers. You sound jealous of a feature on a phone of a manufacturer whose phones in your opinion don't have any features.

[ This Message was edited by: Flying Finn on 2003-12-03 22:58 ]

Posted by DragonEye
Nokia haters are funny SE.. SE hardcore fans and funnier... you guys are grea keep yelling at each other..


p900 has crap RF on 1900..it's so sad but true...

and the n-gage is an ugly taco phone.

my 6600 is an fat egg...

but yet i can make i call when the p900 can't!

but no touch screen *sigh* what to do? what to do?


ahhhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaahah

Posted by decoy7
had a go on an n-gage and liked the game play, its definitely worth looking at if your into gaming on a handheld platform...if your not you shouldnt be reading this thread.

gets the thumbs up from me for mobile phone gaming.


Posted by Super G
@ speedooh
Quote:

On 2003-12-03 22:34:52, speedooh wrote:
No nokia phones have inbuilt radio. Maybe they call it a innbuilt radio it isnt. the radio is on the outside off the phone and you have to conect it to the phone to make it work. The only thing nokia done whas to include it with the phone and make a menu that is named radio. Then they called it a inbuilt radio and sold like hell.




One of the most idiotic posts I've ever read. And there's been a few.
What you plug is called an antenna.

Posted by boysaint
just a question ....how does a nokia owner feel when you buy a cellphone with all the great promises and ad, then next month there's a new one (specially the one with exactly the same model number that you just bought, but added an "i" in it,or a "10" or a "50" after the first number, which makes your just-bought model feel like "un-improved") and everytime you handle your "new" phone it seems you're now handling a beta. just asking, alright? don't flame me off, pls.

Posted by hurny
Firstly, to the guy who said that Nokia phones dont really have built in radio: You're a friggen wacked moron!!

To the guy above. The upgraded phone is never released 'next month'. And it is a natural progression, and usually takes a year or so (7250i came out a year after the 7250)

What are you talking about i's added? T68 went to T68i did it not?
T610 went to the T630
P800 went to the P900
My old T20s went to the T20e

SE does it just as much damn it!!
They're the same phone in a different case, yet I hear no-one here complaining about that!!

Get your facts straight for goodness sakes!!

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[ This Message was edited by: hurny on 2003-12-04 13:05 ]

Posted by boysaint
i was just asking, and we get a "friggin idiot" name....?
gee, are all nokia fans like this? i was ready to get a nokia.... if only i got a good response. but now.... i dont know.

no one complained about the T68-to-T68i thing because the T68 early version can be exactly like the later "i" version. not like some models (example only) where the non-"i" models have monochrome LCD, and the later "i" have colored, and being a friggin idiot that i may be, i asked for a colored screen update and they screamed "you friggin idiot" on my face. actually i am a nokia user.


Posted by Jim
Hey we never called you idiots, we never insulted you, so stop it !!!
We all calm donw or we close this thread, give your review about the N-Gage and that's all

Posted by hurny
Quote:

On 2003-12-04 12:55:15, boysaint wrote:
i was just asking, and we get a "friggin idiot" name....?
gee, are all nokia fans like this? i was ready to get a nokia.... if only i got a good response. but now.... i dont know.



I changed it for your benefit, but man- I dont care whether you were getting a Nokia or not. I dont work for Nokia, and dont give a stuff how many times you change your mind about getting a phone. They already have plenty of business without you.

Quote:
Not like some models (example only) where the non-"i" models have monochrome LCD, and the later "i" have colored,


Give me an example. Oh you mean when the T630 came out to outdo the T610? Oh right.

Posted by Flying Finn
Nokia releasing successors to their phones every month is a typical Esato lie (8 months is the shortest time in which Nokia has released a successor to its phone).

Like the 5100 for example. It was introduced in November 2002 and the 5140 followed a year later. The period of time was even bigger with the 7650 > 6600. The 7210 was announced in March 2002 and the 7250 in November 2002 (last summer they made some SW changes like an XHTML browser to and renamed it to 7250i), if you want to think it replaced the 7210. Same thing for 8910 and 8910i except that they definetely did replace each other. The 3660 followed a year after the 3650. As did the 6810 & 6820 after the 6800. Everything else you think is replacing is just different segmeting. The 6220 btw was announced in March and will be sold for quite a while before the 6230 arrives.

One of my best laughs at an Esato member was when Nokia announced the 3300. With his f**k-all knowledge, knowing nothing about Series 40 or 60, without even looking at the specs but only the form factor, he declared "oh look now they already made the N-Gage's successor, nokia sux".

And whats all this "having to buy the newest phone"? That's not what a normal user does.

Posted by mmsman
@flying finn: yeah it's a lie that nokia gives out a successor every month, but it's is true that nokia gives out a model every month with a different number but with almost the same features......

it's just like saying: t630 is a sucessor of the t610 that sucks!
but if se would rename t630 to t710 and they would still keep selling t610 that would in your logic be perfectly fine...........

nokia has at least 6 models in each catergory se has top 2 models
people at esato are pissed of because if you buy a nokia you will definetly have a better model for the same money next month in stores, but hey you say the this isn't bad because it isn't a sucessor!
i know from my own experiences, I bought a 3510i for my kid the other day but wow a 3100 for the same money was out next month!! but hey that isn't a sucessor in your logic so that's just fine!!

Posted by decoy7
"people at esato are pissed" - i wish people would just speak for themselves, that would save alot of problems.

i for one dont give a rats ar$e who makes a good phone, i'm a buy it regardless...althoug i steer clear of Moto's but thats just personal and may change inthe future...at least i'm open to the possibility.

SE aint all that, most of you who support them like football teams havent even had mobiles long enough to be listened to...just check the 'what was your first phone' thread to see people's history and then judge whether they're even worth listening to when discussing which brand is best.

my T610 suits me fine for now but next up could well be a Nokia...for all the right reasons not because i wear them on my chest.

Posted by Krubach
@all Nokia lovers

Stay that way. Here at Esato we couldn't care less...

One things for sure, Nokia has 10 phones almost alike, at the same time.
N-Gage is not new stuff. Just a symbian 6.1/Series 60 phone with a game emulator software (and this we know it's true 'cos the games can be played in, i think, all series 60 phones, even SX1).

It's just like a "mophun" thing.
So (and i'm talking about the core thing and not Ir, BT, FM radio, etc..):
7650 = 3650 = 3660 = N-Gage = 6600 = 7200
6100 = 6150 = 7210 = 7250 = 7250i = 3200 = 3510i = 5100 = 6220 = 6210
And the Can't-transfer-pics-with-my-(almost every series 40)-to-another-phone-only-VCards feature, is a great improvement for Nokia.

And just to name a few.

Not that i care much, the only thing happening is that you buy a phone today and next month it's value dropped 50%.

And I think that i speak for 80% of the users here:
Take your loving Nokia thoughts for yourself, and don't post'em here, 'cos WE DON'T CARE!

Posted by orange
Quote:

On 2003-12-04 18:44:01, Krubach wrote:

It's just like a "mophun" thing.
So (and i'm talking about the core thing and not Ir, BT, FM radio, etc..):
7650 = 3650 = 3660 = N-Gage = 6600 = 7200
6100 = 6150 = 7210 = 7250 = 7250i = 3200 = 3510i = 5100 = 6220 = 6210
And the Can't-transfer-pics-with-my-(almost every series 40)-to-another-phone-only-VCards feature, is a great improvement for Nokia.



You have listed here phones that are based on two platforms, ie. to Series 60 and Series 40. So, basicly what you're trying to say here is that vendor should create a new platform for every phone they make? It doesn't make much sense now, does it? Basicly all the phones you've listed above have different features. Developing platform and adding new features to it is called evolution.

And BTW. 7200 is not a Series 60 phone as you have listed above.

Posted by hurny
Quote:

On 2003-12-05 09:47:49, orange wrote:
You have listed here phones that are based on two platforms, ie. to Series 60 and Series 40. So, basicly what you're trying to say here is that vendor should create a new platform for every phone they make? It doesn't make much sense now, does it? Basicly all the phones you've listed above have different features. Developing platform and adding new features to it is called evolution.

And BTW. 7200 is not a Series 60 phone as you have listed above.



No, what he is trying to say is "I havent a f**king clue about Nokia products, so I'll just list a whole lot of bull crap, hoping that no-one will notice."

These are the kind of people who ruin threads, because they waste peoples time having to read their made up rubbish!

Posted by mmsman
Quote:

On 2003-12-04 17:03:56, decoy7 wrote:
"people at esato are pissed" - i wish people would just speak for themselves, that would save alot of problems.



wow you know it would save alot of problems if people would read CORRECT!! I was reffering to flying finn (that is kinda obvious because i wrote @fling finn ) with his "common esato lie" and therefore i was saying for those people who said that htey are pissed and it's logical i wasn't saying for you or me for that fact!!, christ you see two completely unimportant posts because you can't connect sentences.....

Posted by Jim
Forget it it's useless !!! They have an opinion we have our own and we can't change that, so stop flamming each other or this thread will be closed or moved to garbage !

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Posted by Flying Finn
Krubach, you really need to find some info about Nokia phones.

You obviously don't realise the Series 20, 30, 40, 60, 80 and 90 structure.

And comparing the 6210 with a 6220 is like comparing an Ericsson GH688 with a SonyEricsson Z1010.

Posted by Krubach
Ok, maybe i have to go down a few levels and make it understanble for you.

7650 = 3650 = 3660 = N-Gage = 6600 = 7200

6100 = 6150 = 7210 = 7250 = 7250i = 3200 = 3510i = 5100 = 6220
(Notice that between 7200 and 6100 there's no equal sign).

I'll correct myself and remove the 6210 from the list, i got confused, there are so many numbers...
BTW series 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 are just a few more numbers to the list.
All in all that's all you are to Nokia, numbers!

And yes, they're all the same because they smell the same.

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Those who understand binary and those who don't.

[ This Message was edited by: Krubach on 2003-12-05 12:58 ]

Posted by orange
Quote:

On 2003-12-05 13:56:43, Krubach wrote:
Ok, maybe i have to go down a few levels and make it understanble for you.

7650 = 3650 = 3660 = N-Gage = 6600 = 7200

6100 = 6150 = 7210 = 7250 = 7250i = 3200 = 3510i = 5100 = 6220
(Notice that between 7200 and 6100 there's no equal sign).



There should be an equal sign between 6100 and 7200, but there shouldn't be one between 6600 and 7200.

Quote:

On 2003-12-05 13:56:43, Krubach wrote:

I'll correct myself and remove the 6210 from the list, i got confused, there are so many numbers...
BTW series 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 are just a few more numbers to the list.



Do you know what "Platform" is??


Posted by Krubach
Do you know what a joke is?

I was saying that besides the model numbering we have to keep track of the interface numbering.

About the 7200 question, OK, i got confused again (see what i mean). I meant 7600.

[ This Message was edited by: Krubach on 2003-12-05 14:12 ]

Posted by Flying Finn
Quote:

On 2003-12-05 13:56:43, Krubach wrote:
Ok, maybe i have to go down a few levels and make it understanble for you.

7650 = 3650 = 3660 = N-Gage = 6600 = 7200

6100 = 6150 = 7210 = 7250 = 7250i = 3200 = 3510i = 5100 = 6220
(Notice that between 7200 and 6100 there's no equal sign).

I'll correct myself and remove the 6210 from the list, i got confused, there are so many numbers...
BTW series 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 are just a few more numbers to the list.
All in all that's all you are to Nokia, numbers!

And yes, they're all the same because they smell the same.

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Those who understand binary and those who don't.

[ This Message was edited by: Krubach on 2003-12-05 12:58 ]



LMFAO YOU make it understandable for ME? How much can you know about Nokia I mean, Series 50 and 70 don't even exist! The worst thing about you that you don't recognize the differences between phones of the same Series (in Series 40, according to you, all phones - or no phones have MMC, EDGE, MP3 player, QWERTY keyboard, camera, video recording, FM Radio, enhanced durability, PTT, 3 softkey UI, 2 softkey UI, 65K/4096 colour screen etc). And sometimes, you don't know to which Series a phone belongs (7200 is S40, 3510i is S30, 6150 is from the time before Series thinking)

You also claim that the 6150, which is from the time before Series thinking, equals the Series 40 6100 and 7210:

6100


=

6150


=

7210


lol...please don't stop, Krubach.

Posted by Krubach
Quote:

LMFAO YOU make it understandable for ME? How much can you know about Nokia I mean, Series 50 and 70 don't even exist!


Again, do you know what a joke is?

Quote:

The worst thing about you that you don't recognize the differences between phones of the same Series (in Series 40, according to you, all phones - or no phones have MMC, EDGE, MP3 player, QWERTY keyboard, camera, video recording, FM Radio, enhanced durability, PTT, 3 softkey UI, 2 softkey UI, 65K/4096 colour screen etc).


That's exactly what i'm trying to say. They're all pretty much the same, but one has MMC, another one has EDGE, another one has QWERTY keyb, another one has camera, , another one has FM Radio,...
Can't they put it all in the same phone?

Quote:

And sometimes, you don't know to which Series a phone belongs (7200 is S40, 3510i is S30, 6150 is from the time before Series thinking)
You also claim that the 6150, which is from the time before Series thinking, equals the Series 40 6100 and 7210:


OK, i'm mixing model numbers so let me update the list then:
8910i = 7250 = 7250i = 6820 = 6810 = 6800 = 6610 = 6230 = 6220 = 6100 = 5140 = 5100.

[quote]

Quote:

lol...please don't stop, Krubach.



Likewise, your capacity to understand jokes and sarcasm is hilarious.
I have to explain everything to you.

Posted by DragonEye
no offense buddy but i really think you don't know....(which is fine because it is just a series of numbers.)... but you're kinda making your self look like an ass.

flame suit on




Posted by mmsman
I guess i was the only one to understand his excellent and extremely funny joke (whoops i think my sarcasm meter just blow up)

Posted by nauti_n_cool
Hey... i just now read through this thread
God... I missed the fun, didn't I ?? I think the
firey symbol does not fit for this thread. Does ESATO
got some EXPLOSION graphics for this thread

Posted by Krubach
Everyone tells me i'm wrong, and that I don't know nothing about Nokia softw, but no one ever explained clearly, and with facts, why i'm wrong.

Anyway, wasn't this thread about N-Gage?
I admit i got carried away (i'm feeling like a noob in a Nokia vs. SE war), but now you can make your Nokia worship all alone.

And thanks for all that supported me through PM's.


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