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Posted by nick610
I came accross this just before....



"T-Mobile and Trigenix, the mobile interface company, today achieved an industry first by offering consumers the ability to personalise their mobile phones with more than 100 themed t-zones mobile interfaces. Called Screen Styles, these device interfaces allow customers easy and personalised access to their favourite local content channels within t-zones, T-Mobile's interactive multimedia services."

Read it here

Damn thats annoying! Industry first my ass! Look at all the SE themes that are floating around! The P800, P900, Z600, T610.....etc are all eaisly themeable, and users don't have do buy stupid preset ones. They can eaisly make thier own! If anybody was idustry first at mobile themeing it was surely SE, not stupid T-Mobile! Man incorrect statements like these really annoy me....


Posted by SubElement
Yes, it's very annoying, but it happens every single day. People clam they invented something, thought of something, whatever it is some always invented itr before someone else...

Posted by Ddongmuri
wow............
se should take a look at this....
and also i fink they change the icons as well as the theme......se phones cant do that.....or can they?

Posted by jrmi
I check the link.
And i never continued to read it.

Immitation is the best form of flattery they say. It took a while, but sooner or latter someone is bound to copy it.

SE should have put a pattent on that idea (themes).
Its one big reason that make SE more appealing is the way one can personalizes their own phones with their own likings; now here comes one company trying to claim the credit for that idea.

Sad that they couldnt come up with their own idea.


Posted by nick610
Yes it would be cool if SE let us customise the icons too, it's possible with the P800/P900 but but you have to tamper with system files I think. And I know it's possible to change them on T610-like-UI phones because I have a vodafone T610 and the icons are comepletly different. But for some reason SE won't give this option to the end user, oh well. At least they are leap years ahead of blokia themeing!

Posted by judge
Don't let it bother you - yet another publicity stunt... Haven't you noticed? Everyone is a global leader nowadays!

Posted by wrecked_porsche
Yes, that is annoying !!




Posted by Ayush
Them nokia also copied. The 6600 ;-) and alcatel? 'enviorment'

Posted by dwin_888
i hate NOKIA!!! they are shit!!! crap fones!!!:xx damn why dont they make their own ideas!!! there should have been copyright thing!!! damn they get on my nerves!!! :xx heheh

Posted by Flying Finn
Themes are a good idea.. Nokia shouldn't ignore it just because SE had them first. And, you could change the colour scheme already in the 7650 that was introduced in 2001, so what if you can change the icons and fonts now too. If a manufacturer has a colour screen in its phone shouldn't we expect it to fully utilize it?

[ This Message was edited by: Flying Finn on 2003-11-28 21:26 ]

Posted by Draak
Flying Finn,you are a freaky Nokia fraek.
Don't insult SE.

SE phone's is far more better and advance than any Shity Nokia phone's on earth.

Posted by fijbert
@fLying Finn
shldnt u hang around a Nokia forum?
instead of an SE one?

u obviously hate SE.. so y hang around here?

Posted by naveen_nagesh
You cant expect anything else from a company like Nok*a isnt it?

Posted by Draak
It looks like that fliying finn to convince from SE users to Nokis users,that Nokia better than SeE ??????????



Posted by Flying Finn
I'm not trying to make anyone buy or even like Nokias, I only want to correct some of the bullshit about Nokia by SE users.

Quote:

On 2003-11-28 16:30:30, Draak wrote:
Don't insult SE.



Don't insult Nokia.

Quote:
SE phone's is far more better and advance than any Shity Nokia phone's on earth.



Yeah. It's amazing how hundreds of millions of people who buy Nokias every year can be dumb enough not to realise this.

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[ This Message was edited by: Flying Finn on 2003-11-28 17:14 ]

Posted by Bucky
Since we noe that he is ridiculous, why dun we (all Se user) juz ignore him everytime he post? Sure he will be the one to be annoyed coz nobody wants to entertain to his nonsense.

Posted by mmsman
man every thread turns into a flame war because of him!!

Posted by Flying Finn
I am ALL for intelligent discussion.

Posted by judge
yeah, too bad that you are not yourself intelligent.

[ This Message was edited by: judge on 2003-11-28 19:33 ]

Posted by Universal Exports
@Flying Finn
Well, here's a start for one. If you are so intelligent, I think you'd understand that the best think to do if you want to convince users that Nokia is better or ar least as good, then I think you ought to do it in a nice, reasonable way. Don't be soo fiery. We got your point (and if we started quoting all your posts, and gave intelligent answers all threads where you're involved soon would be very long...). Plus, you don't have to turn every thread that says Nokia is worse than into a discussion thread (that would take very long time to do on a forum like esato anyway ).

Posted by fijbert
and u hv yet to answer my question

if u hate SE so much, y r u on an SE board??

u cant deny it... SE is by far superior to Nokia
they might not do better in the market, but the phones sure r better!

ask on any non-nokia forum
I'm not saying SE is the best.. hell, far from.. there is no best!

most the world buys compaq.. dont make them the best computers

we r mostly open minded ppl regarding posts about other manufacturers
the worst is when u hv fanatics
being a fanatic is the worst
broaden ur horizons.. and I'm not just talkin about Flyin Finn.. but to everyone who is like " IS the best!! the rest suck"

Posted by Flying Finn
Quote:

On 2003-11-28 20:46:10, Universal Exports wrote:
@Flying Finn
Well, here's a start for one. If you are so intelligent, I think you'd understand that the best think to do if you want to convince users that Nokia is better or ar least as good, then I think you ought to do it in a nice, reasonable way. Don't be soo fiery. We got your point (and if we started quoting all your posts, and gave intelligent answers all threads where you're involved soon would be very long...). Plus, you don't have to turn every thread that says Nokia is worse than into a discussion thread (that would take very long time to do on a forum like esato anyway ).




I always try to do it in a nice, reasonable way. What gets me fiery is the most blatants lies like "6600 is just a 3310 in a different casing" or "no nokia has BT" or other things like that - which are very common here. Being a Nokia user I want to correct them. The Nokia knowledge of the members in this board is astonishingly poor. And when I reply I base my argumenting on known facts (like technical specs) and examples INSTEAD of just saying "se users are dumb" or "se's are crap". I think that's intelligent. Not the hate-filled Nokia loathing you have.

Quote:

On 2003-11-28 21:11:42, fijbert wrote:
and u hv yet to answer my question

if u hate SE so much, y r u on an SE board??

u cant deny it... SE is by far superior to Nokia
they might not do better in the market, but the phones sure r better!

ask on any non-nokia forum
I'm not saying SE is the best.. hell, far from.. there is no best!

most the world buys compaq.. dont make them the best computers

we r mostly open minded ppl regarding posts about other manufacturers
the worst is when u hv fanatics
being a fanatic is the worst
broaden ur horizons.. and I'm not just talkin about Flyin Finn.. but to everyone who is like " IS the best!! the rest suck"




I am here because you think you know what you're talking about when it comes to Nokia. But many times I have proved you don't. And where is the intelligence in "SE is by far superior to Nokia"? To me it sounds like your opinion, something a fanatic would say.

[ This Message was edited by: Flying Finn on 2003-11-28 20:47 ]

Posted by vinnieza
i smell warz i don't really want to get involved and i don't think i should be posting, but i'd just like to say everyone has different oppinions thats why everyone doesn't buy one type of phone and please settle this peacefully and without warz.

thanx

Posted by judge
I am in the mood for a little skirmish though... Must be this blasted headache.

Posted by drinker
Why is everyone getting so worked up over which is better, Nokia or ? I have never understood this brand loyalty. I buy whatever phone that suits my needs. At the moment that is the P900, but if Nokia come out with a P900 killer, I will probably go with that.

Most people just want a phone that is easy to use and is good for phone calls, texting, and possibly photo-messaging. Nokia phones are very good in these areas and would be an excellent choice for most people. A phone is good if it does what you want, so all the people here saying that Nokia are crap are just talking crap themselves.

Posted by Flying Finn
Quote:

On 2003-11-28 22:14:17, drinker wrote:

Most people just want a phone that is easy to use and is good for phone calls, texting, and possibly photo-messaging. Nokia phones are very good in these areas and would be an excellent choice for most people.



I won't fight that stereotype anymore after this, but to get an idea of how much more than that the Series 60 Nokias can do please go to My-Symbian.com and the Series 60 section. They don't come much behind the P900.


Posted by judge
I don't get worked up - but it's the same old scenario: every now and then someone new comes along trying to bore us to death with his Nokia arguments. At some point I gave a very comprehensive and pertinent (I think) opinion as to why I chose Ericsson over Nokia. Now it's just... boring and useless. Flying Finn may have a point though: Nokia were able to do something they haven't achieved in more than 5 years, since the days of 2110, 8110 and 7110 - they came up with a revolutionary product, the 6230.

Posted by Flying Finn
I'd say the 7650 was pretty revolutionary. Now you have Siemens, Samsung and Sendo using its UI (Series 60).

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[ This Message was edited by: Flying Finn on 2003-11-28 22:14 ]

Posted by Draak
The UI (Series 60). is from Symbian not from Nokia.

Posted by Jim
Symbian is from Nokia now ...

Posted by Draak
You must by kidding.

Posted by scotsboyuk
Why is this argument still going on? This is a SE board, obviously the majority of people on here prefer SE products to Nokia, or any other manufacturer for that matter. Why do people insist on posting facts to 'correct' our mistakes regarding Nokias or to educate us on the wonders of Nokia? If I wanted to know what a Nokia could do I would go and get one. Far too much space and time has been used up debating useless points such as these and that's saying a lot coming from a guy who likes to post utter crap and have a good flame session!

Posted by nick610
Haha this is so stupid! How did this turn into a nokia vs SE flaming competition. Funny thing is, that if you actually read about the themeing software I posted about, you would reaalise that it is made by T-Mobile! Not nokia. Just because thier phones can run this software, doesnt mean that they made it! It's like saying, "Oh my god compaq PC's are running windows XP! What a copy!!!" All I was pointing out is that T-Mobile made it possible to theme nokia (and possibly others?) phones, and that it was a little resemblant to SE. I did not say that "nokia are so crap because they are copying SE" So why did this flame war start? Oh well beats me......

Posted by dwin_888
flying finn....r u on nokias payroll?:D

Posted by Jim
@Draak: http://www.symbian.com/about/ownership.html and guess who has the most share

After reading something I found this
Quote:
The world's first open Symbian OS phone became available in the first half of 2001:the Nokia 9210 Communicator.



and then this

Quote:
The company (Ericsson) announced another first when it was the first Symbian OS licensee to launch a Symbian OS phone, the Ericsson R380 Smartphone , in November 2000



Or have I past something ?


Posted by Del
Have you read the bottom of the article, it will cost £6 to download a theme in the uk I think I will stick to making my own.

Posted by ts_666
@Jim
hmm, it says that the nokia 9210 was the first OPEN Symbian OS phone... while the r380 was just the first... what's with the "open"?


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