Posted by lowrida5656
has any1 seen the new nokia 3200? its just basically a a cheap version of the 7250, it has only 1mb of memory but it does have 24tone polys.... but there the only differances i can see.
i think it will sell really well because here in australia there on $30 plans so i think it will go real well because every1 wants a camera but most ppl dont wanna get a $60 just to have a camera fone....
or dont want to pay alot to get one outright, also alot of parents would probly buy these for there kids...
what do u think?
Posted by gelfen
i saw a guy playing with a brand new one, fresh out of the packaging, over the weekend. i have to say it looked pretty cheap and tacky
Posted by lowrida5656
ye i geuss you get what you pay for :s
Posted by hurny
It will be very popular.
Posted by 701
Yeah,like all nokias. I am not looking2start THAT argument again but they r doing what they know the best.Cheap products4cheap ppl.
Posted by lowrida5656
lol ye true true, dus any1 know any more differances mettween the 7250 and this?
Posted by hurny
Hey- if a mobile is cheaper, hows that a bad thing? Especially when it has the same features as an expensive aluminium POC?
Posted by jrmi
Seen it already here in asia.
Well...Its one of those camera phones Nokia introduced.
Havent really seen the resolution of the screen.
Uses paper to change the looks of the phone instead of changing the casing.
Posted by Ayush
Paper??? Ha ha
Posted by hurny
No- cardboard cutouts to slip in under the plastic cover. Patterns & stuff.
Posted by lowrida5656
wtf hurny? u on nokias side or sumptin?
Posted by 701
yes, hurny is a die-hard nokia fan.He uses to argue with every1 around here;he has a follower too, some guy called The Flying Fuck..pardon me,..finn...the flyin` finn:-D
That guy is worse
but , hey, this one has a point: nokia uses paper to manufacture their phones 
From my point of view,
can rest ...if some1 starts using paper, the it`ll be dirt they`re using and then...i am taking this too far 
Posted by Flying Finn
A very cheap phone with integrated camera, EDGE, GPRS (class 10), Irda, transparent covers, flashlight, Java, built-in FM radio, XHTML browser, triband, light weight (90g), MMS, Pop-port (support for BT audio accessory), SPEAKERPHONE (SE hellllooo), voice recording, etc.
It looks alright, it's got excellent features for its price and SE have nothing to compete it with. More money for Nokia
Posted by lowrida5656
ahh here he is
and what about the bad features that u arnt mentioning? like 1meg of memory, 4096 color screen and shit design/quality just to mention a few....
edit: could one of u nokia bois please point me to page were it sez this fone has BT because i cant find any were that sez that.... not even the official nokia site
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Posted by Ayush
Flying finn have any idea about the price in indian rupees or otherwise in us $
Posted by lowrida5656
btw i made a mistake in my first post it dusnt have 24 tone polys it has 16... lol
Posted by Flying Finn
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I think the screen beats the T310/T230 screens easily and is probably on a par with the Z200's screen, just to mention the phones SE offers the youth. Its closest competetor, the Siemens MC60 also has a 4K colour screen (but 50% lower resolution). I agree they could have put in more memory but again the MC60 for example has only 1MB too. One could even think these bad features are typical in entry level phones, heureka!
Has it ever crossed your mind that what you think looks ugly might look attractive in someone elses opinion? Apparently not. You can just declare in behalf of the whole world that it's a "shit design". And WHAT ON EARTH DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ITS QUALITY?
To get a better idea of how the 3200 looks I advise you go check out the 3D demo here http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,42762,00.html# , it also shows how the 3 sales package paper cutouts are holographic
As far as I know, no one said it had BT, but support for the Nokia Wireless Audio Adapter:
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I always thought these East European guys are rude and have no manners but this one actually admits it, wow.
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No. It goes for around 270€ in Finland (unlocked) which is about 320USD. If you can buy it with a contract (or you have to) it's obviously cheaper.
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Posted by lowrida5656
ye i thouhgt wen u said bt audio accesory u ment it had bt.... im not sure wat they are guess there jus the shit nokia handsets be able to use a bt headset??? id rather have that big black box hanging out of my fone so i could use bt then buy a fone from a better quality company and get bt built into the fone..... anyway y u on a SE if u like nokia so much?
Posted by SUPER CIVIC
HEY HEY HEY
I have a SE T610 linked up to my non-turbo civic via bluetooth to my special BT head unit, i am running 6 Phoenix GOLD 1200 amps powering my front and rear door component speakers, and my 4 18" AUDIOBAHN AW 1805X subbies. Two of the subbies are a lttle under powerd but with 4 of them it still pumps.
The other day i took my car to teh drag strip and ran a 22 second pass it isnt bad but i think it can improve, so teh next day and went adn spoke to me cuzz, he said "ay ullay, rool on ova to my cuzz shop and pik up sum phully sik clear lights ullay" so i did and went bak to the strip the next day, with the extra 500 'clear tail light" horse power i ran a 6.9 second pass, respectable, but i want to get 5 second so i think im going to install an intercooler for my BT reciever or a BOV so my car makes that 'GO FAST' noise when i press the horn.
Any advice would be good, THANX
Posted by lowrida5656
hmm ok well id recomend sum neons to go with the blow off valve... hmm possibly red ones if you can get them that should get u into the 5's, hit me up sum time i got a lancer that would give you a good drag i run 4.8's.. it has "RED" saas seats altezzas and a phull sick body kit. im running 890rwhp
THIS IS 100th POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by mmsman
@flying finn: cmon the guy that you say it's rude is obviously joking he even put a grin smiley in
k if you ask me this phone has very good technology for it's price but when i saw it in real life, on thing came across my mind :
Posted by Flying Finn
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When designing a phone for teenagers, including girls, you have to consider what features they actually need.
Posted by ppcrockar
But the Nokia 3200 is competing with the T610 and not the other SE phones like the T230/T310. Here in Sweden the T610 costs 2826 SEK = 314€ (at the cheapest place according to Pricerunner) and the Nokia 3200 costs 2599 SEK = 289€ also according to pricerunner.
Since they are in the same price segment they are competing directly with each other, and the T610 is much better, has more features and better screen.
Just as a reference T230 costs 1364 SEK=151€. The SE Z200 is sub 2000SEK = around 200€. The competitor is clearly the T610.
Posted by hurny
Hey Lowrida- you're embarrassing other Aussies on this forum (including me), so why dont you go kill yourself so you save us some reading time, and allow everyone else more oxygen. Damn.
@701. Well what are you intending to do about Finn or I liking Nokia? it seems to me that Finn has given you and the rest of the people here some pretty damn good reasons why the 3200 is a good phone for the market it is aimed at.
Hey, this is a good test. If it sells more than the SE phones, it is better than the SE phones. My bet is that it does.
Posted by ppcrockar
@ Hurny
As you see in my price examples above the Nokia 3200 is competing at the middle-end and not the low end. The T610 is almost the same price and is a much better phone, and better value for money.
And as we all know number of sales has very little to do with the actual quality of the product. Marketing is the key, and this is where Nokia excels.
The Nokia phones available today and the products their products for the last one and a half year doesn't warrant their 40% market share. They are selling the phones on past merits and because the fact that the Nokia brand name is very strong, which were wee earned in the end of the 90's. But during the las 1-2 years most competitors have technically superior phones. And also more user-friendly phones. It's just recently that Nokia has started to change their outdated interface (which was good in the late 90's), but is horribly outdated today. I'm talking about Series 20/30/40 now and not Series 60.
There are many examples where inferior products outsell the better competitipon... VHS/Betamax, Windows/MacOS etc.
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Posted by Flying Finn
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What matters is the people that are meant to buy it, like Nokias previous 3XXX users, the dozens of millions of them. They may not even see phones like the T610 as an alternative like we do. The prices also depend on where you live. In Finland the T610 costs 340€, the Z200 230€ and the T230 160€. The 3200 is 270€. And with operator contracts you can get phones for free so it really isn't that simple.
I remember how the 3310 cost over 300€ when it first came out and now it's the most common cell phone in the world.
Posted by mmsman
actually the real competitor for t610 is 7250i but because se doesn't flush 30 similar mobiles, it's also a competitior (i mean 3200 is a competitior)
btw: i don't know about kids buying the 3200 because it's more a youth phone, for instance my school mates are 15 and three of them have t610 and none this nokia, but four have 7650, so i don't think young people are attracted to ugly and cheap looking mobiles.....
price ranges are different but because we have mobile operators you can get phones for a silly price and therefore most people don't even look at the price...
@hurny: so in your logic, ford makes better cars than bmw because it sells more cars?!? that's just bull.....
Posted by hurny
So you think BMW's on the whole are better cars because they cost more? They cost more because there is a marketed prestige in a BMW. They make less of them, therefore they are more expensive.
Something more expensive is not ALWAYA 'better' quality.
Hey, if SE were told to make the 3200, they would sell it at about 300 pounds! SE sell less. Mostly because they have significantly less consumers.
Posted by lowrida5656
wait are you really saying that fords are better "quality" then bmw??
and btw the t610 was about $100 cheper then the 7250i last time i checked.... and there the 2 fones that are competing as mmsman said....
Posted by hurny
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The 7250i has JUST come out. Of course its going to be more expensive. The T610 is more expensive than the 7250 though.
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Posted by lowrida5656
mmm well before the 7250i was relesed the 7250 $100 more.. but now cuz the 7250 is an old modle of course its lost value..... i just figerd the 7250i would be bout the same price...
Posted by sheebybabe
I know this is not the forum to ask but a quick question please , can pictures from a 7250i be sent via IR to a PC?
Posted by Super G
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Well, one big difference is: it supports EDGE!
It also has a torch!
And the possibility to make your own covers is great really!
Well, no doubt it will be another big success
Posted by Flying Finn
If it's a good phone in its segment (youth oriented phones) it will sell good even if its more expensive. We've seen Nokia doing that before.
Posted by 701
I agree with ppcrocker-exactly my thoughts man!
Posted by Flying Finn
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With that I don't agree.
Posted by sheebybabe
I would like to ask again ..
I know this is not the forum to ask but a quick question please , can pictures from a 7250i be sent via IR to a PC?
Posted by lowrida5656
u should start a new topic thing.. but i tihnk they should be able to?? unless they cant because nokias are shit?
Posted by sheebybabe
Thank you! Figured that too , I mean a phone as expensive as that cant even quick share!!! It's a shame! Good thing I have my trusty 610
Too bad the 7250i does produce better photos. But if I can not even send pix to my PC then nevermind!
Posted by hurny
Of course you can!! I know with my 7250, you just install the Oxygen program to your computer, and you can download anything to your computer or to your phone. Its just like a PC Suite.
The 7250i may even have direct IR capability.
Posted by sheebybabe
The 7250i may even have direct IR capability.
Really? I need to confirm this before I get my sister a 7250i she is not fond of ericsson because it is not as user friendly as Nokia. Where can I see and confirm this information, if you know one kindly lead me to the right decision. I tried Nokia Site and is shows no information regarding that.
Posted by hurny
I wouldnt be able to confirm for sure, but just get the Oxygen program! (You probably get it on a CD with the phone).
I put heaps of java games on my 7250 that way.
Posted by panlek
Yeah i've seen it. Are u sure it has 24bit polys? Oh it has 4096 colours right?
Posted by lowrida5656
ye thats wat it said in a review....
Posted by syscrash
Compatible edge nokia 3200 has a built in camera and an easily customizable case. Nokia 3200 works in triband and is available in 2 modes GPRS GSM EDGE 900 1800 1900 and GPRS GSM EDGE 850 1900 1800. NOKIA ALSO has an advanced aplication for editing pictures that works through the Nokia Series 40 interface. This phone also feautures polis flashlight fm radio ir port JAVA
Posted by hurny
Sounds good! Theres that radio again. Something
are unfortunately yet to work out how to do.
Looks like this 3200 will sell more than the T610.
Posted by lowrida5656
ye sik a radio... pitty u gotta have a headset with you all the time so u can use it... even if ur listen to ur thrue speaker fone... wouldent you rtather a mp3 player or something???????
Posted by hurny
I dont think you need the headset in to activate the radio. Can someone confirm this? Even if you do, you just plug the headset in and put speaker phone on.
Do you need a headset to listen to a mp3 player? OF COURSE YOU DO!!
Posted by sheebybabe
Unfortunately you need the headset to listen to the radio while on the go.
Posted by hurny
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I know you do for the earlier nokias with radio, I'm asking whether anyone knows whether they've changed it for the 3200.