Posted by jeffharris
I just got my T68i today (I seethe big difference is pictures, and GPRS speed), but I definitely feel there are usage issues and settings that would be nice to discuss with new T68i'ers without having to wade through the MMS upgrade discussions, or the Gold.Silver?i which is coller discussions. There are definitely different usage issues, that new T68i'ers might want to discuss, without the other stuff? Laffen? Jh? Group? What do you think??
Jeff
Posted by Kungen
good idea
Posted by Eric's Son
OOOOOHHHHHHHHH Check you out....
So the T68i is so unique that it deserves a forum of it's own now huh? I don't think so! And if the above topics bore you, simply don't read em!!!!!!
Eric's Son
Posted by Eric's Son
when we got our T68m's did we demand a seperate forum..... NO!!!!
Posted by Eric's Son
Sorry just read through the posts I just submitted....sorry for sounding like a n arsehole but i didn't mean for it to sound so, just a bit of a laugh!!!!!
Eric's Son
Posted by jeffharris
Well, when the T68m came out, that's ALL there were in this section were discussions on usage, settings, etc.... Now, there's so much other stuff.
Don't rag on me for the idea ... just a thought to keep the forums efficient and helpful...
Honestly, I love to read about other T68 users hints, tricks, etc.. but we are getting a lot of too general thoughts, that the core T68 discussions seem to be diluted. For expample, I KNOW there is a thread about T68i settings, firmware, etc..., and even the search takes a while to wade through....
Jeff
Jeff
Posted by tranquil
I'm not to sure about your idea about a seperate T68i forum. I know what you mean but being a T68i owner does not make us king of the hill. KS
Posted by jucame
Why? both mobiles are the same, in a couple of weeks same software so why bother with a new forum for "candytoygameboychildishfemenineT68i" no way man
Posted by GOwin
That is a nice idea, but i dont think it would make much of an impact to improving the quality of the discussions here. And as someone else mentioned, it is not so unique to merit its own forum. Why dont you just start a t68i-only thread instead?
Posted by decoy7
jeff,
you've touched an important subject without knowing it - what Esato actually needs is a section that the idiots can't post on as the kinds of crap that gets posted here is unbelievable...if the admin folk took away the count on peoples # of posts then not so much bullsh** would get posted thus there would be less crap for people to wade through when loking for relevant information.
Posted by jucame
Letīs talk about T68 only without caring about the cover, just plain T68.
Posted by escobar
Why not make a T68-forum for each software version, and each colour..
I can see it now:
Sorry this post is in the wrong forum, you have R2A on your grey T68m, and this is only for us cool people who have upgraed to R2B. Go to your R2A-forum and discuss Tetris, and let us play Naval Fleet in peace!
Posted by john74
What!!!!! Is it T68i vs T68m???What a load of bullshit,whos stupid idea was that??Are you a privellaged T68i owner??Get out of here mate.....bad idea,so if i will get the P800 im gonna look down at everybody..please give us a break
Posted by jeffharris
No, decoy, I understand exactly what you said. And I know I touched on it, but I also know I would "insult" the poeple who just banter.
I am not trying to be elitist, it even applies to the upcoming T68m MMS stuff, which most people have who peruse Esato. We can even call the section "T68i, or T68m converted to T68i settings and issues". There is too much other stuff in this section that does dilute the core discussions regarding functions and settings. And, believe me, with the coming of MMS, AND the new features with the MMS software, be it a converted m or a new i, there are some serious/intersting/funny issues and settings to enlighten each other on. The "general" section call still be left for the "where are you all from" polls, or "gold or silver, dudes?" or "how old/rich/stupic.smart are all of you" threads that highly populate the "general" section .
There are a lot of young people on this forum -- G-d knows, there was a 13 year old posting this week -- my son is 11, I wish he had the interest that 13 year old has! But, there are also 40 year olds (like guess who), well to do dudes, that use the damn phone many thousands of minutes a month, and value info like I do.
Just a thought, not a religious preach.
Jeff
Posted by GOwin
@decoy7
one man's garbage, is another man's gold. besides, we even have a garbage forum here
hehehe
@jucame
i'd agree with you, just talk t68 and ignore the suffix (m, i, ....)
hasn't the issue about t68m being capable of being upgraded as a t68i equivalent make this moot and academic?
Posted by evoke
Most T68 users seem to put the T68i in the topic title anyway so u therefore know which phone the topic is about without a need for an seperate forum. Ed
This post was posted from a T68
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Posted by decoy7
jeff,
i hear you, maybe a short message to the admin people will eradicate the judegmental comments coming from all above.
anyway, as stated before, admins please note - this site has more and more crap being written by geeky folk like myself who are really getting sadder by the day just trying to build up that post # count - so how about deleting it for a while to see if people stop writing unneccessary trash - or do you wish to promote people making more posts for hits/stats purposes? if so, then well done and fair pla to you.
Posted by laffen
Well. I seldom look at the member post-count any more, only the username. I don't think the post count is the only indicator for valuable input.
[ This Message was edited by: laffen on 2002-04-12 06:24 ]
Posted by Eric's Son
Well guys...all this talk about people posting rubbish, have you ever thought that they might not think that its valuable information? The people who are always complaining about this are the people who have been members for months... I feel like like forum gets boring a little but thats all my questions have been answered! So its different for a new user. So they aint posting rubbish... Your just getting bored with your phone and the site because you done it all...
Posted by boysaint
yeah, right! separate forum sections for t68 and t68i? yes that would be sensible now. earlier there were just a few things to discuss. so the need to expand and divide subjects to many sections was not yet necessary. but now that there are more good cellphones coming out, more functions to discuss, more menus to discover, and the technology is continously growing.... i would tend to agree that we should have more forums to name. so that those who sneer at those who are slow in discovering functions. and those who are concieted, very self-centered and self-admiring people, those who think they are smart and know all.... can skip the named forum subjects they don't want, and find something else to look into.
to the guys at esato. keep up the good work here!
thanks for maintaining the site!
Posted by lor
bad idea, the phones are the same and when the software comes out, there won't be much difference.
Posted by socarb
Escobar, luv your sense of humor!
ESATO-boys, keep up the good work!
JeffHarris, you are excused....
Remember, mobiles are for "connecting people", not for dividing them!
Posted by arroyootje
@escobar: I laughed out loud with that one man!!!
Posted by pinolo77
I suggest that laffen creates rooms for t68,t65,etc... So that the info can be found more effectively.But keep the general running.I found some very interesting thoughts in there.It is not a question about better or worse phones.Just about finding what you are looking for without having to read through 1000 posts and see he it has already been posted somewhere else.No wonder people ask ten times the same questions...
Posted by decoy7
laffen,
i'm not talking about you looking at peoples post count - i'm talking about people wanting to increase their own count...whether you look at it or not.
Eric's Son,
a large number of posts here are people talking sh** whether that's my opinion or not is not being disputed.
how many posts are there about who's better - SonyEricsson or Nokia? for f*** sake there are some really sad people here among a few geeks and boffins etc.(& this is not said in a derogatory manner, more a factual one).
direct me to one post regarding Nokia vs SE that did not include someone talking bullsh** please.
i'm not bored with the site at all, just fed up of wading through crap posted by youngsters and adults alike and its getting to the point where it's not even worth posting anything of an intelectual nature as some idiot will just rubbish it with what is actually a "stupid post".
much like above where you replied "OOOOOHHHHHHHHH Check you out.... So the T68i is so unique that it deserves a forum of it's own now huh? I don't think so! And if the above topics bore you, simply don't read em!!!!!!"
now speak honestly, do you still stand by that post or do you regret posting it?
Posted by Eric's Son
Well I tell you one thing mate.... I don't regret posting it all!
It really pisses me off when everyone on here is ripping people for 'posting shit'. This 'shit' as you call it is someones highly valuable opinion resulting in much needed input into a site like this. It's a highly subjective view if someone was to put a stop this 'shit' as who has the power to rubbish someone else's views? If people didn't post, then this site and all others similar would be very dull.
My original post, as you so nicely pointed out, was a little tongue in cheek, you know a thing called humour, but fair comment that there is no tone in written text but I suggest that you lighten up.
I have visited this site since about Nov 2001 and have seen the site grow from a tens to hundereds of regular users and in my opinion, the site has grown for strength to strength. The main reason that it has done so is because of the posting members...just remember that.
One other thing I would like to ask is that I would like for the older members, not all of course just a selected few, if they could be a little more patient with the newer members because as soon as they post some thing they get the immediate response by someone jumping down their neck... 'use the search function'. How about welcoming new members first, then explaining what's happening here?
Come on guys, I think were all getting a little out of touch with whith what's happening here, at the end of the day it's only a mobile phone and we all have other lives, hopefully, and with all the bad things that's going on in the world, I think we owe it to ourselves to enjoy all the good, one of which is ESATO and chatting with all you guys!!!!
Does anyone agree with me on this one? Please, if you have any constructive comments pleaes post you replies.
Sorry... rant over. Thanks for your time in reading this post!
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Posted by arroyootje
I agree with what you are saying Eric's Son, I always try and welcome new members, though I do think there are too many identical topics and posts, not just from the new, but also older users...
I've been visiting this site since early December and there were no were near as many members as now and I then became a member when I got my T68. I post a lot, but I believe that everything I've posted, hopefully, has been a little helpful to some people.
Before I started posting, I'm pretty sure I'd read though at least 90% of the topics... now that would probably be a bit more difficult with 90+ pages on the General discussion alone...
I don't think the T68i deserves a private page or even 'room', seeing as it'll be identical in a month to the m.....
I just hope we can all get along here and share our knowledge with eachother!
Together, we know EVERYTHING about
Posted by decoy7
Eric's Son,
you posted 3 times in a row, your last an apology for sounding like "n arsehole", u "lighten up"!
left yourself open for criticism.
posts like yours r what i refer to with people talking sh**, it didnt read like "someones highly valuable opinion resulting in much needed input into a site like this" at all.
if someone does ask a question or make a suggestion they get responses that put them off and while the site's for adults and yougsters when you get childish replies to legitimate suggestion its very likely the last suggestion that person will post.
then you get an imbalance of childish banter versus intelligent conversation.
Posted by Eric's Son
Whatever mate! I don' care either way,I have a life outside of ESATO, but thanks for the 'constructive critisism'.
Posted by escobar
arroyootje & socarb ->
Thanks, I try my best!
I don't think we need different forums just yet, I think we'll have to wait until there are more phones out from SE that will make everything a lot harder to follow! I don't have any problems finding things about my phone in these forums yet, so I think we can wait and see if things get worse over time!
Posted by TeleSaint
Best idea since they invented electricity....