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Posted by KoKayne
I'm thinking to buy a Nokia N-Gage. Is this phone better then a P800? Cause I heard a lot about the PSP, when wil that come out? Does anyone know that? Cause if the PSP is based on PlayStation, I think it will RoCk!




Posted by daftpunk
is the Nokia 3650 better than the p800....me thinks not and the ngage is the same thing with the added bonus of having expensive low-res games that come on MMC cards that are proprietary to nokia!

conclusion: N-Gage


Posted by lulu ginzburg
N-gage is a toy/gsm.. made for gamers and the "young ones". lol
It's more a king of gameboy. (BTW you can get a phone module for the gameboy now!)
He is not even to compare with a P800 who is a real cellphone/pda with a more adult public

No discussion possible, if you want a phone to play and fun, buy a n-gage.
if you want to work with it and really use it to make phonecalls (and also to have the possibilty to play, music,..) then buy a P800/900

Posted by MumboJumbo
Apples and Oranges pal.

Posted by RyaN
havent heard anything about the psp, but i dont really think you can compare the n-gage to a p800. n-gage does look ok tho. bluetooth support for link up is a great idea. just depends if there are gonna be any good title coming out for it. my opinion id rather spend my money on a smaller GB Advance Sp and have my phone as a separate unit

Posted by nixin
what does mmc mean?

Is N gage that nokia phone which looks like a game boy i saw an advert for it on televison.

Posted by Dazultra2000
Indeed. No straight comparison.
Although as someone said, essentially it's a re-hashed 3650 minus the camera and plus the MMC (which, as previosuly noted, is proprietary and cannot be used in other devices without formatting to the other device's filesystem).

N-gage is for kids, bored businessmen

P800 is for yuppies, tech-freaks and those who have to have the best phone they can get their hands on, as well as the advanced features that the P800 has over any other phone which make it a good specialist phone also.

Now while I don't especially hate the n-gage (as opposed to the 3650 which I DO hate), I still don't really like it. It's murder to use the menus, it's big, you don't know which end to talk to, and from what I've seen...it crashes....a LOT!

Posted by nixin
my friend says the t600 is better than a n gage and the t600 is the best phone SE have out at the moment.

Posted by RyaN
ahh Mr Nixon, nice of you to return. how have you been?

Posted by Little Jon
The N-Gage looks interesting, but as people have already pointed out, it's not a P800 rival. It's a Gameboy rival. The P800 and other smartphones are converged PDAs and phones. The N-Gage is a converged handheld video game/phone.

Like other "PDAs", the P800 has enough processing power to allow you to play games, but it's not primariliy designed for that.

The N-Gage has some design flaws, which show that Nokia is a phone company and not a games company. The most obvious is the fact that you have to remove the battery to change the game cart.

The biggest fly in Nokia's ointment is going to be the Playstation Portable. Although it's not going to be released for another year or so, I hear from an industry insider that the specifications are everything you could dream of for a handheld games machine! Of course, it's not a phone though!

Posted by Dans Macabre
I also don't think that this is a fair comparison, the P800 is a PDA phone, playing games wasn't the first priority when the p800 was designed, in other words, the Nokia N-Cage was designed for the younger generation who'd like to play games on their phone, the p800 has much more (full-featured) capabilities than just playing games.

In my opinion it's better to buy a Gameboy than to buy a phone like this, Nokia hasn't got any experience in developing (portable) game-consoles like Nintendo has.
So if you want to play games everywhere you go I think it is better to buy a Gameboy than to spend your money on a phone like this.


Posted by nixin
The N-gage is an attempt for nokia to make a good gaming device because of all the success from snake and stuff. So this was there next logical step. No way can they dream to compete with p800 they have no competition. However the device is awfull in design the reset button is to close to the gaming buttons whihc can be disaterous and basing it on the 3300 design is a bit poo as you have to take the batterey out to change mmc. The screen is the wrong way around aswell.

GBA has problems as it is nothing special it plays game thats it and the games are stupidly priced

PSP however is looking good if sony can stick to deliver what they claim with gaming abilities along with mp4 play back and movies in the UDMA format. It is not a phone just a great gaming device UDMA discks look tasty. There is reports abotut possibly making a GSM adaptor but this probalby wont happen....for some time at least

Any way back to Nokia they will try to enjoy as many sales as possible from the kids pestering mummy and daddy. Then eventually some one else will make one unless Nokia's hand set falls flat on it's face then it will just be a forgotten market segment.

Is it a rival for p800 yes it is a rival for the p800 in the same terms as a SL55 being a rival to the p800


Posted by sn3ipen
I think i would be proud to hold a P800 against my ear on the street, and embarise my self doing the same whit a N-gage.

N-gage is just a stupid kids thing.

Posted by BlackBauer24
The Nokia N-Gage = a totally un-N-Gaging experience. and even though the P800 was not designed to be a gamers phone, it can still shift more polygons than Nokias new ugly duckling, and in full widescreen mode too.

Posted by aga2k2
@nixin

Games on nokias N-Gage are just as stupidly priced as gameboy advance

http://shop.game.net/ViewProduct.aspx?cat=11138&mid=322306

Posted by jomni1
Why compare the two phones?
If your priority is gameplay than get the n-gage.
Playing arcade games in the p800 won't be fun.
But if you want an organizer, get the p800.

They aren't exactly targeted to the same market you know.

Posted by prodjsxb
I cant believe you are even trying to compare the two...

Posted by x-daemon
how can you compare these two ????

and get a gameboy advance sp istead of n-gage.. it's nothing more nokia 3650 with just some 3d engines. and with mgs (magic game station) you can also play same quality games on 7650/3650

Posted by yusufl
okay guys I'm sure he gets the picture by now that he can't compare the 2 but in all honesty. I have played with the Ngage and sonic and tomb raider look damn good I mean really good. I've got sonic on my p800 and it looks good, but you just can't play it with the jog dial.

The PSP is gonna rock the world when sony finally launches and guess who's gonna make the cellular add-on yep thats right SE!!

And it's gonna have a bluetooth module as well. But what Is going to be the real competition will be Nintendo's response to the PSP. Word is they are already planning the next game boy in response to SONY's PSP. I wonder will they decide to stick to a games machine to rival sony or will they go the Nokia convergance route?? But come end of next year the portable gaming market is gonna boom and then a year later we got PS3 wooh hooh.

There has never been a better time to be into games and gadgets!!


Posted by jomni1
well id be happy if i have all the money to buy all of them.
but i dont. = (

Posted by BlackBauer24
Sorry for going slighty off topic, but i agree that the PSP is going to be the next ( REAL ) step forward in handheld gaming, and PS3... oh my goodness dont get me started, i cant wait to Microsofts response to the PSP when it is finally launched.

Posted by Vlammetje
Quote:

On 2003-10-09 21:09:47, nixin wrote:
The N-gage is an attempt for nokia to make a good gaming device because of all the success from snake and stuff. So this was there next logical step. No way can they dream to compete with p800 they have no competition. However the device is awfull in design the reset button is to close to the gaming buttons whihc can be disaterous and basing it on the 3300 design is a bit poo as you have to take the batterey out to change mmc. The screen is the wrong way around aswell.

GBA has problems as it is nothing special it plays game thats it and the games are stupidly priced

PSP however is looking good if sony can stick to deliver what they claim with gaming abilities along with mp4 play back and movies in the UDMA format. It is not a phone just a great gaming device UDMA discks look tasty. There is reports abotut possibly making a GSM adaptor but this probalby wont happen....for some time at least

Any way back to Nokia they will try to enjoy as many sales as possible from the kids pestering mummy and daddy. Then eventually some one else will make one unless Nokia's hand set falls flat on it's face then it will just be a forgotten market segment.

Is it a rival for p800 yes it is a rival for the p800 in the same terms as a SL55 being a rival to the p800






did you perhaps forget to sign in with your other account today??? coz this is a far cry from the usual nixon questions....

Posted by mmsman
I don't know why some people say they can't be compared, yes they are aimed at two different markets, but lets be honest If you wan't to buy a good smartphone most people will consider buying a p800 or a N7650 or a N3650 and n-gage is practically the same phone as the 3650 and 7650 (bluetooth, 176*220 4k screen, etc.) but n.gage has more intense graphics (red faction looks killer and should be, considering that John Romero is developing it)

I think the p800 can be compared to Nokia communicator but communicator is geting really old so most people who are better friends with nokia still consider buying a 7650, 3650 and finally n-gage and 6600, so I dont think it's like comparing apples and oranges it's just comparing some flagship models from two of the worlds greatest companies

My opinion- If you like playing games and you don't have alot of use for calendar,internet... then buy the n-gage otherwise buy the p800 Doom is still good and geopod isn't bad at all

Posted by KoKayne
Guys, guys, guys,

I will keep my P800! No way that i am going to buy a N-gage and lose the P800! I only thought that it would be nice to have a gamedeck and a phone in one.... Of course, P800 is the best out of these two... And also, the prices of the games for the N-Gage Ar F.... High! 62 euros for TombRaider! For 62 euros I can buy a PS2 Game, my dearest friend Nokia (NOT).

Now I know how the community reacts on the comparision of thse phones. So I can conclude that Nokia, and at least the N-Gage.....sux?

Posted by Anuj
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Posted by KoKayne
MMSman,

You said that the N-Gage could be compared with the CommuniCator?
Sorry, but you are totally WRONG! The Communicator is a higly developed, HandHeld Organizer, I can't recognize at least one pro of the Communicator that's on the N-Gage too....

Besides, the Communicator isn't for Kids who want to play 'Pandemonium'......

You could compare the Comunnicator with the P800 because both handhelds are phones with PDA capabilitys. If there's isn't a 9310, then there is no serious competitor to the P800.


Posted by RyaN
@vlammetje

my thoughts exactly. either that or he has a split personality..

Posted by mmsman
@KoKayne: Sorry if I've been unclear I was comparing SE to Nokia and not Nokia to Nokia let me say it again:

If you want to COMPARE mobile phones by classes you can say:

p800,p900(?)-9210i,6600(?),9310(?)
p200(?)-7650,3650,3660(?),7600(?)
psp with SE phone modul(?)- n-gage

BUT beacuse phones with (?) aren't out yet it's more logical to compare it this way:

p800-9210i,3650,n-gage,7650

I think you can also compare t610 with 7650 but OK I was just puting in phones that are BIG and SMARTPHONE alike

So I didn't quite get it why some guys are talking that p800 IS NOT like n-gage yes it isn't BUT the p800 is better to compare than the T610 and I've thought that you want to compare SE-Nokia
smartphone with good 3D games

[ This Message was edited by: mmsman on 2003-10-10 14:58 ]

Posted by p800 kid
n gage,65000 colour screen,mp3 player,built in radio,exellent games,symbian operating system.all this for 200 quid sim free,cant be bad

Posted by blue8300
not bad.. sure... but no comparaison with a P800 lolllll

Posted by caff
n-gage is only 4096 colour, not 65k , dude ! And its ddamn ugly the way u use the phone to talk, have to turn the phone sideway , looks sick and stupid !


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