Posted by Draak
Sombody"insider from SE"claim that SE have heavy problems. is that true?
Is there somebody who can confirm that?
Posted by Cytech
it's not any secret that
economical situation is everything but good... hopefully the last half of this year will give a kick so they can keep up the fight against the other mobile manufactures...
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[ This Message was edited by: Cytech on 2003-10-06 21:21 ]
Posted by Vlammetje
Meaning... financial troubles??? Not surprsing I'd say.....
Legal problems??
Staff problems??
if you have some rumour to share pls spell it out or else I'm gonna make up a gruesome story !
Posted by wapchimp
Doesn't every major corporate company nowadays have financial troubles. From automotive to telecoms industries?
Bad management
Posted by hurny
Its because just about everyone owns a Nokia.
Posted by Elrond
No suprise that. @vlamm Waiting for your story. :-D:-D:-D
Posted by blue8300
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No quite true... Nokia (and Motorola) is losing big parts of the worldmarked (23% lost!!) and SE has token 13% of those new parts.
Nokia is good seriously down the last 6 mounth, they are losing big money and seems not that it will be beter in short and middellong time
Posted by hurny
Nevertheless, Nokia takes a huge amount of the market- more than SE. Thats my point. That is undisputable.
Posted by thanasis
After SE's sales jump last quarter i awould think that the third quarter results due in the coming weeks, should indicate an even bigger boost in sales thanx to the groundbreaking success of the t610. The phone is virtually everywhere.
I predict that we will see a big boost in sales this third quarter for SE but maybe no profit just yet due to heavy marketing expenses as well as restructuring still taking place.
Posted by GoH
lets hope se dun end up with marketing strategies used by nokia if they someday get to the top. like floodin the market and stuff like that.
with gr8 power comes gr8 responsibility...
Posted by shithappens
define "heavy"???
issit
is suffering from havin too many overweight techies, programmers, designers etc coz they all work really hard at coming out with even cooler phones, i.e., lack of exercise or wat??? 
Posted by orange
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Yeah, right. Where did you get those figures? From your head I guess...
Posted by wrath000
How about waiting until the 15th october, and finding out from
official release?
Posted by prodjsxb
yeah and after the new phones that nokia is coming out with...
they WILL lose a chunk of their market share, thanx to the garbage ideas like n-gage... and that is undisputable!!!
LMAO
Posted by hurny
So how can they be garbage ideas if they pull so many customers? Sounds like it just means their products are good.
If SE make products that are good, they will get more market share.
Posted by pachy
Its easy to sell Garbge phones to Trashy people,
& thats Indisputable
@Hurny,By this i mean most of Nokia's phones are cheap & simple to be sold to people who just want an idiot proof phone, but some of the top end phones are also very usable, if you posted in a Nokia forum, i'm sure you would get support for your view on Nokia's.
Posted by hurny
I wouldnt say most, and I wouldnt say trash, because many Nokia phones of the same level as SE, do more or better that SE phones.
Eg- my 3650 aint trash. The phone is a phenomenon.
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From the manufacturer point of view it's very smart to do phones also for these "Trashy people", as you call them, as most of the people seem to be those. It would be a stupid move from the manufacturer not to do so. At the moment #1 manufacturer is doing it in the smart way and the others...hmm not so smart way. Phone manufacturers are not charity organisations, but they are doing business (money).
Posted by DragAzn
Nokia has been out longer then se has and they have a reputation while se is only building their reputation give some time. Customers at my store are changing their views on se.
Posted by exosyphen
Downloadable games and software make phones attractive today. Everyone can write in java for nokia, but not on the mophun for the ericsson.
Posted by bart
the results of Q3 won't be that great, and idd no profit yet. Q4 and Q1 will be killers, SE will take big jums forward. i'm sure SE will regain the 4th place in the global top in Q4 and maby 3th place in Q1. siemens will rise abit, motorola will stay about the same, samsung will drop and nokia will lose bigtime. nec will also see his activity in europe rise as will toshiba. LG will keep losing more. alcatel i don't know.
Posted by hurny
Wow- a soothsayer, tarot reader and a future teller all in one!
They're pretty strange assumtions to make. What are you basing that on? The upcoming phones- whether you like them or not?
Posted by orange
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As a fanatic SE fan, he is basing these assumption for hope...
Posted by prodjsxb
well as long as SE phones dont randomly explode in the owners pocket or whatever, then they will be alright.
True brokia has a large market share, but seeing how long they have been around??? in just a short time, SE has taken a large chunk of that pie, even seimens has entered more strongly this year...
Oh well, we shall have to wait and see what happens, but SE did sign a deal with T-Mobile and Microcell to push their phones out into the public eye...
Posted by Merkur
What I have heard about problems @ SE is problems receiving components for their products.
I have also heard that the T230 is delayed, possibly untill Q1 04. If that's true, they willl not have a cheap phone in the christmas rush, except the Z200.
Posted by Draak
SE have realy big troubles if i hear so.
another reason is that Sony and Ericsson will saperate if SE bad 3 qarter result have.
And yes the stuff implentaions verry shit at all.
Why give Sony cam stuf to SE,damn Sony.
I think SE wil disepear in this or next year.
Posted by Krubach
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We don't have to worry about this anymore do we?
We now have Q3 results and SE is back in black numbers. Phone sales increased dramatically.
So that's bye bye for this thread. no more reasons for it to exist.
Posted by wrath000
I suppose that's why you revived this thread from oblivion....