Posted by Dj Boyi
Ok,i used to be a Dj so i've got loads of 12 inch toons(mostly dance music)in my record boxes.
What i'd like to know is can i get these toons onto my PC somehow,someone must know if there is a way to do this.
I got the PC audio going to my mixer (and the Ps2 and the TV and the Decks and the Radio and the Tape deck)
so that the sounds comes out of me 300w speakers.
But everthing seems to go to the mixer,i want it to go to the PC so i can create my own mix onto a CD.
Do you see what i mean now
Please! there must be a way,i'll be very very happy if any Esatoian's can help me here,i might even send a CD to whoever helps me out if this works out to be possible
Thank's,boyi
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t68i/t610,mca-25,hpm-10,car-100,ibt-20 [ This Message was edited by: boyi on 2004-02-01 23:10 ]
Posted by o44wen
There is a way to do it. I read about it in a computer magazine here in the UK a few years ago but not sure if i still have the back copy. I will have a look around and get back to you if i can find anything
Posted by slattery69
most sound cards have a line in so you should be able to run a line out form the mixer/amp to the pc line in.
not sure what software you need on your pc to store the tunes on the hard drive.you maybe able to do it from media player or something like that
Posted by wrath000
Most mixers have "line-out", you have to connect that to the "line-in" on the soundcard. If your mixer doesn't have line out, it probably has "monitor-out" which you can use as well. If your mixer doesn't have either of those, connect the headphone jack to the line-in on the sound card. If you use the headphone jack, you will have to adjust the volume on the mixer so that there is no clipping.
If you soundcard does not have line-in, you can use MIC, but you will have to adjust gain on the PC so that there is no clipping
(Clipping happens when the db monitor starts going into red)
You can use software like SoundForge to record music from line-in/MIC on the PC. You can afterwards use SoundForge to normalize the file and save it as mp3.
...I've been doing this a lot. Have been working as a (techno) DJ as well...
Posted by judge
@boyi & wrath: how about some samples? I would love to hear what you guys mixed!
Posted by wrath000
I don't really have any live recordings, could never really be bothered to record when I was working... well I have one actually. I recorded it at a nightclub about 4 years ago - when I was just starting to work as a DJ. Maybe I will digitize it and put it out on the net...
Posted by Dj Boyi
Hey,thanks guy's,i'll have a look at the back of the PC in a bit.
On the mixer i've got 4 line in(not including the 2 for the record decks)and then another 2,one for recording(to the tape deck)and the other goes to the amp,one of these last 2 must go to the PC somehow but i would still like to here the audio coming out of my speakers
@Wrath,techno is good,i'm into the trance stuff at the mo,when i was Dj'ing at the club i was at i was mixing house music back in 95+96(De'lacy,Alcatraz,etc)they dont make house like they used to but dance music is always changing
@all,i've got some tapes of me mixing from back then
i did'nt do any live ones tho cus the tape deck was'nt wired to record but i mainly taped em cus sometimes a Dj just cant be arsed to play em one at a time when your at home listening to music
Thanks again for the info,any more would be greatly appreciated
Cheers!
Posted by wrath000
@boyi
On your amp you probably have a "line out"/"tape out"/minidisk out/monitor port you can use. The sound should go both to the speakers and the line out then.
...I play a mix of Hard House/Hard trance with a bit melodic trance in between to calm the public down before I bring them up again
Posted by anonymous1
I just hope for your sake your soundcard aint a piece of shit 16 bit card with a low sample rate or the quality will be crap (its not gonna be that great anyway coming from vinyl). If you've got balanced outputs on your mixer use them with balanced cables to illiminate SOME noise, and run shorter cable lengths IF you have a GODD soundcard.
Soundforge is a good option as it will split the vinyl recording into stereo left and right channels. Just make sure you save it as stereo 16 bit 44.1 KHz so that your tunes will play in a mormal CD player.
If you can't get SoundForge pick up Steinbergs Wavelab for PC.
Posted by wrath000
Quality on vinil is much higher then on CD since it's analog as opposed to sampled... If you have a good pickup and a clean record you can get near perfect quality (as recorded). The noise will come not so much from the cables, but from the soundcard because there is a lot of electric equipment in the PC. Much of the noise can be eliminated if you use a professional (shielded) soundcard. The best solution would be to record to a standalone audio CD burner though, since they are generally better shielded and provide better sound proccessing.
Noise will be generated by the following elements in the chain:
1. The pickup - high quality pickup will greatly reduce the noise
2. Mixer - DJ mixers are not known to have especially good sound quality (as compaired to studio mixers). This is especially true if the mixer has a pre-amp/you are using pre-amped output.
2. Amplifier - resistor based amps produce background noise. Once again the quality of the amp does matter.
3. Cables - Longer/less shielded cable will produce more noise (overall not as much as any other component in the chain)
4. Soundcard - This is where most of the noise will come in, especially if you are using a cheap soundcard.
To reduce the ammount of noise:
1. Keep the chain as short as you can. Connect the decks directly to soundcard/audio burner if possible.
2. Adjust the volume so that the signal level is as close to clip as possible without actually clipping (normalize), because then you will get the best output to noise ratio.
Posted by senninha
slightly off-topic, but does anyone know how i can convert videos on vhs tapes to digital format, prefereably divx? i've got a pretty comprehensive collection of most of the formula 1 races from 1986 to 1994 and would like to burn them onto cd's as i doubt vhs tapes will last forever.
Posted by wrath000
Get a videcard with video-in port, or a TV-card with a video-in port. You will need a fast PC with a lot of hard disk space. You will need software that can record video to harddisk (usually follows with TV cards). Finally you will need an avi2divx converter.
Posted by Dj Boyi
So how do i find out what sound card i have,i had a look on the PC and all i come up with is a SoundMAX Digital Audio,can someone guide me to how i find this info please.I have a brand new HP PC,P4,2.4Ghz,should be ok,should'nt it?
Most of my records are in good condition and i'm using Technics cartridge heads with Stanton styli's on SoundLab decks,there is also a 7 band graphic EQ on the mixer.
Btw,have you got a direct link to this SoundForge please(hope it's free too)
Oh,there is a tape out on the mixer,this is used for recording to the tape deck at the mo
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Posted by wrath000
Sonic Foundry Sound Forge
Posted by Dj Boyi
Thank's,but,i aint got £300 to buy it,is'nt there any freeware available?
There must be something out there
Posted by slattery69
http://www.westnet.com/~gsmith/cdranalg.htm
try this link the articles a bit old but the princples should still work.
@wrath interms of vinyl sounding better than cd it should but it allcomes down the recording at the begining if its badly recorded or badly mixed no format in the world will make it sound good
except mp3 which somehow manages to make everything sound average and over mixed
Posted by Dj Boyi
I think it depends on the styli you use for best quality,ie,stanton trackmaster probably would be one of the top choices,i'm using stanton 500
Posted by senninha
many thanks for the tips wrath
Posted by Dj Boyi
@slattery,thanks for the link mate
Well after reading the link that slattery posted i think i'm on the right track to forfilling my objective,what i did was i got the sound recorder to record a vinly clip but there is a 60 second record limit on it.
When i tried to play it in winamp,it played but then i got an error message followed by a send error report to microsoft.
When playing in win media player 9 it played ok with no error reports so i suppose its playing in the player i want because thats the player i use to copy with.I need to tweek the volume level a bit and i found that it was recording in stereo at 56 kbps,does that sound right to anyone?
So thanks again and any tips on recording longer than a minute on that sound recorder would be very helpful cus theres no option to make it longer(or i just cant find it).
Please keep the tips coming in cus i aint finished yet
Posted by wrath000
Maz-Sound
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