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ok - i've had enough, can noone can help me get GPRS working!!!

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Posted by QuiKsiLVeR
my P800 is giving me some right grief with regards to getting on the internet... makes me wanna go back to my 8310

anyway - ill tell you the story and if someone can help me fix it then your a god!!!

ok... i want full GPRS access and MMS - thats all.

so i ring my service provider and they say "we cant send you the full internet settings via sms we can only send you the gprs wap settings" - ok... so they emailed me the settings...

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Manual Configuration for Sony Ericsson P800

Step 1: Configuring the Service Settings

From the main menu, go to Control Panel and select
Connections> Internet accounts> Accounts> New

For each of the fields, enter accordingly:
*Account name - o2 internet
*Connection type - GPRS

Next select Advanced and input accordingly:
*Username and password required - Tick box
*Username - username
*Password - password
*Address - mobileweb
*Click Done

Step 2: Configuration the Wap settings

From the main menu, go to Control Panel and select
Connections> WAP Accounts> Basic> New

For each of the fields, enter accordingly:
*Account name - o2 gprs
*Internet account - Set as default
*Use proxy - Tick box
*Address - 193.113.200.195
*Port - 9201
*Username - o2wap
*Password - password
*Click Done

Step 3: Configuring the Message settings

From the main menu, go to Control panel and select
Connections> Messaging accounts> MMS

For each of the fields, enter accordingly:
*Service centre address - http://mmsc.mms.o2.co.uk:8002
*Wap account - Set as o2 gprs
*Automatic - On
*Download size - No restrictions
Select Advanced and input accordingly
At Send tab,
* Validity period - Maximum
At Receive tab,
* Allow delivery notification - Tick box
* Allow read notification - Tick box
*Click Done

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ok, fair enuff... done all this, but can i connect? can i ****

i have EVERYTHING possible activated on my account by the service provider - and have followed these instructions perfectly...

i have been able to get on the net with the p800 before... but i cant tell if its gprs or wap or whatever, but someone told me that to use Opera i have to use a full internet connection - hense all this hassle

can someone please please help me out - i cant believe how difficult it seems to be!




Posted by Froddan
I don't know, but this seems strange to me
Address - mobileweb
Try mobileweb.co.uk or something,
I have isplnk1.swip.net on Comviq/Sweden

Posted by SE Convert
Hi, sorry i cant offer you a solution all i can tell you is that the way to tell if your using wap or GPRS is, gprs has a little world icon that has brackets either side when transmitting and wap has a little phone symbal.
I am with t-mobile and the setup file worked for me BUT i had to ring them and get them to activate GPRS, has this been done on your phone?
sorry i cant help further.
l8r

Posted by QuiKsiLVeR
yeah i rang em and had it all activated.

in the default browser: i get that world icon for about 3-4 seconds then it dissapears

and in Opera: i get error messages like "cant connect to remote server" and "connection rejected"

EDIT:

ok... i sent myself the "Pay Monthly GPRS WAP" settings from the O2 website...

now as far as i can tell... the basic browser if working fine...

but Opera still isnt - the world icon is there, and it seems to be transmitting, but after a while i just get "unable to connect ot remote server"...

why would the default browser work but not Opera???

this... is wierd!!!

whats the bloody difference between these new "Pay Monthly GPRS WAP" settings and the ones above that were emailed to me???

i dont understand how noone else has had problems
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[ This Message was edited by: QuiKsiLVeR on 2003-04-24 20:10 ]

Posted by slattery69
i am not on o2 so this may not be of any use.but i am sure i ahve read somewhere in the forums that o2 dont let you have gprs and mms at the same time its one or the other ie you can have gprs for surfing or you can have it for sending mms but not both.
know it sounds strange but sure i have read that.

sorry cant be more help

Posted by phil.n
From reading some other posts it seems that opera will only accept full GPRS internet connections. Cant be sure though becasue I dont have a P800. If this is the case then I dont think you will be able to use Opera because O2 will only give you the WAP GPRS account, not the data GPRS account. This is because If you want MMS then you can only use the WAP APN, not the data one.

Regards,

Phil.

Posted by QuiKsiLVeR
i know it works cuz i have done it before - but stuff started going wrong with the phone and i did a master reset...

i cant remember where i got the actual settings tho, cuz i have tried settings from Singlepoint (service provider), O2 and from Ericsson... and i'm still not happy...

im having all these problems and im studying to be an electronic engineer for christs sake... what would some completely computer illiterate geeza do? ill tell ya... he WOULDNT BOTHER!!!

MAKE IT EASIER FOR US SE!!!!!!!

Posted by Nyke
Turn your fone off and turn it back on then try using GPRS, this should work

Posted by QuiKsiLVeR
Quote:

On 2003-04-25 01:34, Nyke wrote:
Turn your fone off and turn it back on then try using GPRS, this should work



This message was posted from a T68i


tried that many times... i'm sure its summat more complicated than that, but thanks for the suggestion

Posted by Psykotik
l got my p800 this morning, and had the same problems. What you need to do is set your wap account up and select it for internet usevia opera, and your gprs account needs to be set for wap use via the built in browser. The default browser is capable of serving both wap and web via gprs and dial up, but opera seems only to work with dialup. Hope this helps

Posted by QuiKsiLVeR
hmm... where are these "internet use via Opera" settings, i havnt seen anything like that?

Posted by Poo Poo
Go to:

http://ota.o2.co.uk/O2UK/index.jsp

and select P800 and your mobile number.

The correct GPRS settings will be sent OTA via SMS.

They will be saved in the Auto Setup folder under the Messages menu.

Just open it and save/install.

Although if you are on monthly tariff try the following manually instead:

Username: username OR mobileweb
Password: password
Address: mobile.o2.co.uk
Primary DNS: 193.113.200.200
Secondary DNS: 193.113.200.201

Posted by QuiKsiLVeR
well **** me... IT WORKED!!!!!!

see... why arnt those settings made easily accessible eh?

thanks loads poopoo

where did u get em?

Posted by QuiKsiLVeR
i'm well happy now...

let me get this straight... with this account... i can browse ANY web/wap page? so why the hell would i ever need anything else on my phone except for maybe an MMS account?

am i right in thinking this?

Posted by Poo Poo
With WAP you can use the O2 WAP Internet account & WAP Profile/Account, but that depends how much you will pay for.

O2 WAP Internet Account:
Username: o2wap
Password: password
Adddress: wap.o2.co.uk

O2 WAP Account:
Select connection to the above Internet Account
Proxy tick box marked
Address: 193.113.200.195
No need for Username or Password here

The internal browser will operate on this WAP account and will connect to WAP & most html sites.
Selecting mobile.o2.co.uk Internet Account & Preferred WAP Account tick box unmarked only html sites can be accessed - Opera browser also requires this connection.

Posted by QuiKsiLVeR
what???

so ure saying i need another account???

it all seems fine, i can access pages like wap.google.com and the like with no problem it seems... could you explain what you mean? thanks.


EDIT:

this phone is causing me more stress that me bloody exams lol...

can someone please please please just tell me what accounts i need... what settings for those accounts and if it all comes under the £2.35/MB bracket that ive been told of

i want to be able to surf the net and send mms - for as cheap as possible...

if i actually knew of any good wap pages i might understand what ure all on about, but wap seems like the odd good site has wap version and thats it... not much use really when all the sites and forums i use are html...

so please just tell me which settings i need and when to use which account... i'm sure there are so many people out there who arent clear on all this either...

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[ This Message was edited by: QuiKsiLVeR on 2003-04-26 00:36 ]

Posted by Poo Poo
Just select the mobile.o2.co.uk Internet Account you manually set up & make sure the Preferred WAP Account tick box is unmarked. This arrangement will access full web pages only & not WAP.



Posted by Firebird
Quote:

On 2003-04-24 20:55, QuiKsiLVeR wrote:
in the default browser: i get that world icon for about 3-4 seconds then it dissapears



hmm, that's exactly what's happening to me on orange payg gprs (whilst using an unlocked vodafone P800)...i just wish it would work!!! orange cust serv say they can't guarantee it will work on payg..how silly!!!

Posted by Poo Poo
My theory about the Orange PAYG GPRS is that they will only allow approved models to be used i.e. majority of Pay As You Go handsets as listed on their brochure.

Orange can't be bothered to test & approve the P800 for PAYG GPRS as they want customers to use their monthly SIM's only instead now.

There is no reason why GPRS on the P800 should not work with a PAYG SIM, Orange don't want it to work full stop, so seem to have deliberately disabled the GPRS feature.
This is done by recognising the model identity of the P800 by its TAC code (first 6 digits of the IMEI), when trying to logon to GPRS (even though it's shown attached).

Hopefully one day when the P800 reaches its twilight they will sell it as Pay As You Go and GPRS will work by then.

Completely p****d off with Orange about this and to add insult to injury from 1st May the new pay increases on PAYG. What's the point of Oftel in the first place?

[ This Message was edited by: Poo Poo on 2003-04-27 21:18 ]

Posted by jalu
Psst, go to o2

No price changes in May, afaik.

Jalu

Posted by Poo Poo
Hi Jalu,

Am using Pay & Go O2 too as the main SIM card.

The only reason I used Orange PAYG as well (on my old T68) is the need for full internet GPRS access, which O2 Pay & Go don't offer yet (or ever?).

Not that it matters now as the reason for the Orange PAYG purpose is unusable now!


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