Posted by stangbanger903
I have a T68i with AT&T service. If I bought an unlocked P800 off of e-bay or something could I just pop my Sim in and have service no problem? Would AT&T be pissed if I did this? Also when will the new T610 or any of the others be released in the States? Thanx!
Posted by Naar
well the whole point of GSM is that you can take your sim and put it in any phone. i have t mobile and i have no problems wwith my p800. but i did hear that AT&T are bitches and wont help you if you have problems or something like that
Posted by jplacson
It's SUPPOSED to be that way.
BUT... providers have the option to lock out any phone (unlocked/SIM-free) that isn't 'registered' on their system.
This means, that even if you have an unlocked or SIM-free phone, your provider can choose to have you come in and show them your new phone w/ receipt...blah blah blah... just so they can get its IMEI number and allow it access into their network.
I have no idea how US providers handle unlocked phones. Ask around.
But if the provider is NICE...and doesn't restrict unlocked phones... you can buy any tri-band phone (T610 & P800 included) and just pop in your existing SIM.
Posted by MrSavoy
I don't mind your post or your question but, is it necessary to say another stupid american?? I mean we are from alot of differenct countries here and noone here is stupid. Please don't use that in the same sentence stupid and american. I am american and I am not stupid as I am sure alot of other folks here are as well. Thanks.
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Posted by stangbanger903
Sorry, but I AM stupid. But I also had to specify that I am an American. So that way they would understand why I didn't have a clue. Plus its no secret that they have better mobile phone technology and thus they are definetly more capable that us. Maybe I could have worded it differently but oh well. Sorry, fellow American.
Posted by fijbert
I respect u as an american for being able to admit to ur ignorance..
"respect is everything.." -GTA2 guy
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Posted by MrSavoy
The fact that they have "more advanced mobile phones" doesn't mean they are brighter than anyone else. Now I see why you said you were stupid, your logic makes no sense. By the way any Triband GSM phone can be used in NA or EU and even if its not available for retail here in stores you can still get any phone you want online. So there is no more advantage imo.
In the future if you wanna put yourself down thats fine, but don't take the whole American population with you, since we are far from dumb. Put yourself alone in that category if you wish.
Posted by pachy
@MrSavoy, I just thought the guy was funny & saying "stupid american" was a nice way to get interest in his post.
Everything was fine & nobody thought americans WERE stupid until you came on the scene & took it personally, did it strike a raw nerve with you ????
Look at these smileys, then copy
Posted by fijbert
it's his right as an american to bring down america..
I mean ur president is doing it...
Posted by pachy
@Fijbert, to be fair though, the world really must get together & deal with this evil dictator who has no concern for his own peoples rights & is hell bent on world domination, & sadam is becoming a problem aswell.
Posted by multipurpose workermonkey
wow, stangbanger903, that joke just blew up on you didn't it.
Posted by Rashkae
@pachy: LOL
Posted by stangbanger903
Damn Guys! I didn't mean to cause such a ruccus! BTW, I didn't vote for GW Bush. But I don't want to get off of subject. We might as well just go in an Blitzkreig him just on the principle of him snubing his nose at the West (that includes England or any other democracy).
Posted by fijbert
no one voted for him, and yet he still got elected..
what a world.. lol
Posted by MrSavoy
Fijbert don't get me started in a flame war. I was just commenting that I didn't like "stupid" and "american" in the same sentence. I am a proud American and thats that. As far as Bush taking us down. Heh, if some of you Euros would get soem backbone maybe Saddam woulnd't be a problem at all. Don't get me started dude. I don't wanna trade insults with you but I can with the best if thats what you want. I suggest we leave the thread to die.
Posted by alexatm
I just wanted to comment on why America doesn't have "more advanced" phones. Its all about the money. Companies such as nokia profit a lot more from selling millions on one type of phone, such as the nokia 3390, then selling 5 different color phones. Also if all these new phones were released, people would upgrade, and maybe not purchase a new phone for several years. But if they release the phones as they are doing now, just putting on feature worth upgrade on a phone, companies benefit more. An example of this is hydrogen cell powered cars. There is sophisticated enough technology to produce hydrogen cell powered cars. But if companies just mass produced them and released them to the public, it would completly distrupt the economy. Another example is computer processors. Companies such as Intel, release their products in incriments, deriving more sales. If they just released a super processor, it would disrupt the economy. WOw i just wrote a lot of crap that probally isnt' true, but i think i'm close. haha wat an unuseful post. Sorry people. i agree, many Americans are ignorant. GO MEXICANS., hahah everyone hates them, !
Posted by starhawk
I also am a proud American (Filipino-American) to be exact. I voted for Gore not Bush. But that's picking between Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum. Anyway we're getting off topic here. It's true that the U.S. is slow to adopt cell phone technologies like GSM with TDMA and CDMA providers wrestling for more customers. As for phones, te U.S is slow as well. That's why I bought my P800 in the Philippines since I'm on vacation anyway. I plan to go with T-Mobile when I return. Well...that's it for my 2¢.
Posted by Naar
you know why americans dont have advanced phones???
because theyre too stupid to use them
dont take this seriously
Posted by T-mobile
90% of their network is Analog/TDMA/CDMA. What kind of phones do you expect people to use? The other thing is that with this phones it is very difficult to transfer the phonebook from one phone to the other one when upgrading a phone + you have to call the provider in order to switch you to the new phone. It is not like the GSM ones that you can have 10 of them and every day just take the SIM card and put it to another phone and ready to go. That is the major reason why Americans don't change phones very often. And also they are not well educated about phones because they never knew what unlocked phones are. They knew only about the phones their network provider would sell. Now that GSM is finally growing in USA things are changing a bit, but only 10% of Americans are using GSM.
Posted by Flateric
Hey thats getting interessting. Political issues.... One Point is clear, Mr. Bush is a very bad example of an american. But you cant blame all americans for only one asshole! I am against the war in Irak, but dont forget that, the biggest Anti War Demo was in Washington. However there are others more advanced Technologies in the US. We are all just a family, we are all
fans, no matter where you all come from........
Amen
Mr Bush, his administration and his plan for war:
Flateric
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Posted by faca
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Heh, if some of you Euros would get soem backbone maybe Saddam woulnd't be a problem at all. |
Yeah, shame on you Euros for not being war-loving gun-obsessed trigger-happy cowboys.
Posted by Flateric
Has anyone seen "Bowling for Culombine"?
Flateric
Posted by stangbanger903
I hate cowboys, and I am from Texas!
Posted by mkt
So ur a double exception: cowboy that hates cowboys and an american whose pride allow to be a little sarcastic about urself
RESPECT!
@MrSavoy: No reason to get mad. He didn't write "Im another, next to MrSavoy, stupid american" nor "I'm stupid like all americans". Didn't mentioned you, and if there is in US at least one more person concidering herself as stupid (and i believe there must be, ur not that special as u think), it was his right to write it.
Useless nationalistic thread.
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Posted by Miss UK
Should any Network provider care what handset you use! o2 know ive got a 8310 but I also use my S55 I asked them for help and they gave it no bother! AT&T seem a kak us provider lol
Posted by scubba_steve
To answer the original question... there should be no problem using an unlocked GSM phone on AT&T... I am using and unlocked T300 from T-Mobile on AT&T and it works just fine!
I just want to throw my opinion into the pot here on this whole political bash... As an American that has lived in Europe for years I understand both sides. But I agree with Bush, and yes I voted for him. But when the world has gotten into a mess who has gone and cleaned it up... not the world... but the US. Check your history books if you dont agree. When most of Europe was in shambles the US helped rebuild. I lived in Europe when the Gulf War happend and many Europeans gave me HELL because I was an American and they didn't want "Blood for Oil".... It was not about that then, and is not about that now. What gives Saddam the right to kill thousands… The US has been the lap dog of the UN… we get sent in to clean up what they can’t. Well that’s my two cents, sorry if you don’t agree.
Posted by CHiort
You should have on problems. I work at ericsson in dallas and we use all sort of phones in all GSM networks
Posted by mkt
@scubba_steve: About the history: u didn't mention of Americas isolationism. Why do tou think America joined world war II? To help Europe? Don't think so. And why do u think it helped Europe to rebuild? Just to stop spread of comunism, which was threat to world order and America itself.
I don't have anything against US or americans though.
BTW, i think we should cut some posts and move them to non-mobile section. Its starting to be technical-political thread
Posted by Miss UK
What about The IRA? now american government funds them! and those twats plants bombs here in England! if u want my advice kill saddam not thousands!
Posted by faca
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What gives Saddam the right to kill thousands… |
And what gives the USA the right to kill them instead? I guess that, when Saddam kills innocent people it's terrible, but when U.S. 'smart' bombs kill them, then it's OK. After all, USA can do anything they want to because they have the biggest army and a lot of money. If you ask me, USA is a far greater threat to world peace then Iraq will ever be...
Posted by scubba_steve
I am not suggesting that the US should kill thousands. I am suggesting that a tyrant be removed from power. I dont want Saddam dead, I don’t want any one to die. But unfortunately Saddam will not leave quietly.
Just a quick note about all these anti-American posts... you would all be speaking German if it were not for us.
Posted by mkt
THANK YOU FOR NOT SPEAKING GERMAN
Should I thank u for microwave oven and marylin monroe too?
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Posted by Naar
so the english language is "superior" to german??
where are those german speakers here to see this
Posted by jplacson
What's wrong with speaking German?
Hitler was the problem...not Germany.
Besides... if that happened...we'd all be speaking German and driving Porsches, BMWs, and Mercs!
Dunno if we'd still be using though... maybe Siemens or just Sony!
Seriously, this thread is getting weird. I prefer the Nokia-SE wars over this...
Posted by Fahed_2000
America never cared about anyone. America only cares for itself and Israel. I believe that America wants to kill suddam and the Iraqi people because 12 years ago during the gulf war Iraq shot rocket at Israel (as revenge for a prior Israeli attack)
Another reason is because of Oil (Everybody knows that) also boy creating a war America is guarantied to get income out of it that could potentially improve their lacking economy (America never went to a war without getting something out it
America defended Kuwait of the Iraqi attack ten years ago (Although Kuwait was independent of Iraq 50 years ago), why didn't America defend Egypt and Lebanon of the attacks from Israel.
Why is America the only country to always use Veto against Iraq or for Israelis favor
FACT: 3 billion $ is given every year to Israel from the money of the American tax payers.
You also mentioned things about America "Cleaning up". Where is it in Somalia? America went in and out to cause a bigger crisis
And btw I’d rather speak German than English
Posted by crowing
i'd say if any war should erupt, get all the presidenst and head of the nations go up in a boxing ring or better yet ultimate fighting champion ring and get on with it, wat you say??
Posted by Naar
Fahed_2000
you got your facts wrong. kuwait was never part of iraq. it never got its independence from iraq, but from england.
Posted by MrSavoy
Those of you that think we are going to Iraq for oil only should look at France and why they don't want us to go. Maybe because they have guaranteed contracts with Iraq for several years to come at low low prices and they fear if we take over Iraq they wont get those same prices. Theres 2 sides to everything and everyone has a side agenda. Noone is such a "good guy" not US and not you guys. Remember that. In the end its all about money when you get right down to it. Either way his regime has to go and since no one else has the balls to do it, I guess we will have to as usual. Meanwhile noone mentions whos ass is on the line out there. Its us and GB noone else. So all you guys in EU do is sit there and talk while we are the ones to take action. If not for us alot of rouge nations/communists/terrorists would be running rampant worse than they are now in the world.
If 911 had happened on EU soil you all would be singing a different tune I suspect. You guys think that have a passive attitude will keep you out of harms way? heh guess again. When the terrorists get tired of hamering us, eventually they will find a reason to screw with you guys also. leaders liek Saddam need to ousted simple as that no matter what other agendas there are involved. Think about that.
Oh and do you really think Saddam won't be selling his WMD to anyone willing to buy them? Who do you think will be the buyers? Nice guys? Terrorists will buy them and use them. Could be here or could be anywhere in the world. So what do you passificts suggest we do? Let the inspectors continue this cherade and let Iraq buy more time, While he continues hiding/moving/selling his weapons? Oh i get it lets give him another year to come clean. The guy hasnt come clean in 12 years whats makes anyone think he will now? Lets get real. Its time to roll up your sleves and stop wishing things to be different and accept how things really are in the world. This needs to be taken care of, and just like a good parent would do if the kids dont know better to take care of themselves then some one has too. Thats someone is the US. Pure and simple as that. Sorry for the rant I just needed to get that out.
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Posted by d' fuhrer
the terrorists that attacked on 9/11 entered the usa from canada. english came from a germanic tribe (the saxons i think) that also spoke it and migrated, settled mostly in the britsh isles. if not for the americans then europe would be speaking russian till today and the european immigrants would have no where else to go. they are historically & basically cousins.
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Posted by mrj82
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To correct you the USA does not have the biggest army. Accually I'm pretty sure china does.
Posted by coolfighter
America doesnt have tecnology for electricity, they only interested to build nuclear war heads missiles that destroy any target in the world, planes that go to different countrys to throw nuclear bombs like what they did in japan hiroshima, america only interest to control the world , make war there put an evil guy in a position like sadam, yes america who brought sadam and give him cimical weapons to destroy iran , and now they say its a moron , and osama bin laden also , america train him and give him weapons to destroy russians from afghanstan, america it doesnt interest in a world full of peace , they want it all ..... its really that TRUTH HURTS sometimes
Posted by fijbert
meh.. it will fall like the roman empire..
I'll find it funny becuz history repeats itself, and I will go back to being a canadian..
see, no one hates Canada cuz we r peaceful and dont get involved in anyone's business..
@MrSavoy.. I'm really sick of u super proud americans who believe that america will live on until the end of time and the rest of the world r ignorants.. dude.. wake up.. the rest of the world is making fun of u.. not scared of u... and as for that german comment, that was very uncool seeing how you guys r doing the same.. u r trying to exterminate the arabs.. I bet u believe that ppl in Iraq leave in pyarmids and dont hv running water... or that they ride on camels? well let me tell u something bud.. all the arab countries I've been too hv Mercs for taxis.. take a trip there sometime, cultivate ur mind.. become aware that there is something other than a huge blur outside ur borders... and I bet all u will proove in ur next post is how ignorant u really are of the rest of the world by saying "Saddam is the devil" or something similar...
get ur facts straight.. dont believe the news, believe what u see for infront of ur eyes..
take UAE for example.. I bet u dont think much of it.. but bud, it's a tech-haven and makes ur silicone valley look like dog shit..
ur country aint that great.. u dont even hv health insurance like we do in Canada.. and u r all ignorants of how great other nations r...
that's my 2 cents..
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Posted by faca
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you would all be speaking German if it were not for us. |
This is not about U.S. during the WWII, this is about U.S. TODAY and you know it. And TODAY Germany is the one advocating for peace and trying to save lives while the U.S. are planning an invasion on a country which doesn't stand a chance against its almighty army.
It's ironic that today, at the very beginning of the new millennium, the U.S.A., supposedly the most advanced country in the world, is going to use the most primitive way to resolve a problem, a WAR. War is not the answer to anything and is only a huge human tragedy. Most of us Europeans already realize that, I guess most of you Americans still have to evolve to that level.
Posted by fijbert
HAHAHAHAHAHA
totally agree!!
evolve damn it!!
Posted by mrj82
You guys can blow my ass
I didn't vote for bush, hell I didn't vote. I think the only way to solve our problems is to have one government for the whole world, that way we can't fight other countries can we? I'll be dead long before that happens though.
Posted by Deltayoda
Sigh, please lock this thread and throw it in the Garabage forum. We don't need a politcal discussion on the Sony Ericsson General Forum.
Too many people showing off their stupidity.
Posted by Deltayoda
Oh, I should also add, if you want to debate some intelligent topics, try learning to read and write before you post anything (Whether or not you’re from this Earth), instead of writing gibberish that makes absolutely no sense at all.
Just makes you look like a total moron.
Posted by stangbanger903
Man this has gotten way out of control. Look, who cares about what is going on in Iraq, I just wanted to know about unlocked phones, o.k.!?!
Everyone is acting like a bunch of females. America sucks ahhh blah blah blah, who cares? After all if it wasn't for the U.S., no one could be mass communicating on the internet like we are now. But all the countries have made something thats is cool and useful. Check it out, that English soccer thing really kicks ass! I have to give credit where credit is due and that stuff rocks! It's almost as good as hockey. Oh wait where did that come from? Canada. See my point. I live in the U.S. and I like cool stuff from other countries. I don't sit and worry about Iraq because there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it on this message board. Vietnam was a horrible thing and WE suffered from it. Maybe the same thing will happen here. WE will suffer from OUR mistakes. WHO CARES??????Now back to soccer, has anyone here ever started one of those bad ass soccer riots or been involved in one??????? Those are pretty intense.
The Happy American has spoken.
Posted by Naar
if america wants peace then THEY should stop making WMD's. theyre allowed to make them, but no one else can have them?!?!?!?!?????!?!?!
plus if you think about it america is/was a terrorist nation. they went against england (1776) which everyone viewed as bad.
and yeah americans think so highly of them selves it makes me sick.
Posted by pachy
Bring back Clinton, at least he learnt from Churchhill, to get the public behind you all you need is a c.u.n.t & a cigar.