Posted by milukugiuniu
@jonfensu
The insider who have delivered reliable information in China told us the info about IPS.
For other things you asked, I have no idea. Sony has strengthened its "no leak" policy obviously. When I attempted to dig some info. about Sony 2014 devices on a Sony event, everyone's mouth seemed to be sealed.
Posted by itsjustJOH
^To all? Even the mid-range and low-ends? How about AMOLED?
Posted by mobisekim
Sirius in January,5.2 inches screen,Snapdragon S800
http://www.weibo.com/1823630913/AoL5lgo2O
[ This Message was edited by: mobisekim on 2013-12-24 14:34 ]
Posted by amirprog
@mobisekim
the news don't make sense - to release Z1 refresh with the same cpu - 800 in january and then in may to release a phone with smaller display - 5 inch phone but "maybe with 805". sony new flagships always had newer cpu. seems fake.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-24 14:55 ]
Posted by itsjustJOH
It's already Christmas here, so...
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Posted by jonfensu
@Xajel
Thanks for the info, I am understading
and Sorry 
So what kind of panel used Sony, VA?
@itsjustJOH
But There is a BIG step between S400 and S800. If D530x has a S800, it should get the same score of D550x
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-24 17:36 ]
Posted by Gitaroo
think Sony is using is starting to use mediatek soc, are they any good? Benchmark seems worse than qualcomm even with multi core. It make sense to not to stick to just qualcom and they can get a deal or some sort from mediatek for a supply chain for early supporter. But it is useless if the SoC is no good.
Posted by smclion102
Sony Bluetooth wrist notifier arrives on the FCC. Is this the latest smartwatch from Sony?
A previously unannounced device from Sony called the SWR10 won approval from the FCC today. FCC filings call the device a “BT Wrist Notifier”, and test reports indicate that the device won approval for its use of Bluetooth. Label notations also show an NFC logo, which you can see in the center of the label pictured above.
It’s unclear what exactly the BT Wrist Notifier will do. In the past, Sony has referred to its LiveView smartwatches as wrist notifiers. However, the label location photo above shows an odd form factor for a watch.
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2013-12-24 20:40 ]
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2013-12-24 18:06:01, Gitaroo wrote:
think Sony is using is starting to use mediatek soc, are they any good? Benchmark seems worse than qualcomm even with multi core. It make sense to not to stick to just qualcom and they can get a deal or some sort from mediatek for a supply chain for early supporter. But it is useless if the SoC is no good.
MediaTek chips are mostly low power ARM A7 based, so even the very best MediaTek Octa CPU falls behind Intel, Nvidia, Samsung and Qualcomm quad cores.
They are the main chip supplier for many Chinese and Indian Android phone and tablet makers, but companies like Sony, Samsung, Htc etc...are now looking to use their chips in their low ends. I haven't read much good about MediaTek based devices TBH, but maybe with Android4.4 KitKat they'll be better.
Posted by DexterMoser
The main advantage of a Mediatek chip should be its price point.
For less money you get the same performance as other popular chips.
Btw. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
Posted by rency0722
On 2013-12-24 21:33:08, smclion102 wrote:
Sony Bluetooth wrist notifier arrives on the FCC. Is this the latest smartwatch from Sony?
A previously unannounced device from Sony called the SWR10 won approval from the FCC today. FCC filings call the device a “BT Wrist Notifier”, and test reports indicate that the device won approval for its use of Bluetooth. Label notations also show an NFC logo, which you can see in the center of the label pictured above.
It’s unclear what exactly the BT Wrist Notifier will do. In the past, Sony has referred to its LiveView smartwatches as wrist notifiers. However, the label location photo above shows an odd form factor for a watch.
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2013-12-24 20:40 ]
I'm thinking of a Sony Smart Bracelet haha.
Posted by itsjustJOH
^If it's that long, it should be curved. Thought of Nike's Fuel Band.
Posted by Gitaroo
they should call it smart bling
Posted by jonfensu
What Do you thinks, guys? (Google Translated) AnTuTu benchmark measurements next Xperia flagship of "D6503 (Sirius)"
D650x = Sirius (?)
I dont think so
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-26 02:52 ]
Posted by itsjustJOH
TCL's $330 Idol X+ boasts 2GHz octa-core chip, Bluetooth activity tracker
The rise of the wristbands.
Posted by Xajel
It's all because Fuel isn't compatible with Android, and I think Nokia said once that they're not planning Android support...
I think having multiple sensors in the phone is good, but the wristband is good also, as you don't have to carry the phone in your hand or pocket... specially if the wristband can store it's data locally and sync. with your mobile by NFC+BT, BT LE, or all...
But I really hope Sony integrate at least a pedometer in it's phones so we can track every step even when not wearing that wristband...
I'm just waiting for Next SmartWatch with BT LE support, I was disappointed with SW2 by not supporting BT LE... thought the battery life of the watch is good as a smart watch ... the BT will eat the battery of the connected phone... BT LE will be a good solution for both as it will increase both battery life... and also will enable Sony to have WiFi in the smart watch for demanding tasks like taking remote photo or video
Posted by amirprog
Just found a nice concept of the upcoming "Z1s" (Z1 refresh) via twitter: http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/itsoku/imgs/e/8/e8e2d1a4.jpg
the designer seem to listen to the rumors and made realistic design. in my opinion, he should shrink/relocate the SONY logo a bit to the center of bezel be in the proportion of the rumored thinner bezel but apart of that it still looks nice. can a water proof phone accommodate this bezel dimensions? or is it too thin for a waterproof construction, big battery, big camera sensor, etc.? what do you think?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-26 19:41 ]
Posted by badassmam
I think Sony showed what they can do to the bezels when they launched the Z and ZL. Rather than go ZL they went the Z route and kept the phones waterproof which is good, it's a good way to separate themselves from the competition. Talking to some engineers, they say that smaller bezels on a waterproof device would compromise the device but you could do a full front wrap around screen as a single component, not like the current design where the front and back are held together by the metal sides.
Posted by Ricky D
I think an 'active' (smart not sports) wristband is a good intermediary step towards smartwatches. With smartwatches, for once, manufacturers have outdone themselves and started producing product categories ahead of the public acceptance of the need for such an item.
Generally people don't see the purpose of buying a watch when they've just got used to not wearing one and using their phone for the time. Now they're being told to buy watches again and it's too soon. The smart wristband is a good way to get the youngest generations of gadget lovers into the idea that something on your wrist might be useful when used in conjunction with your phone/tablet.
@badassmam like the original ipod mini only flat edges and full glass front?
Posted by yuunanase
Been using the Z1f for a few days. They have a different implementation of the Stamina mode. Instead of adding apps to the whitelist, you have to add apps to a blacklist, which does not make sense at all.
Anyway, anyone know about Canopus?
Posted by BenLing
On 2013-12-26 20:33:28, amirprog wrote:
Just found a nice concept of the upcoming "Z1s" (Z1 refresh) via twitter: http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/itsoku/imgs/e/8/e8e2d1a4.jpg
the designer seem to listen to the rumors and made realistic design. in my opinion, he should shrink/relocate the SONY logo a bit to the center of bezel be in the proportion of the rumored thinner bezel but apart of that it still looks nice. can a water proof phone accommodate this bezel dimensions? or is it too thin for a waterproof construction, big battery, big camera sensor, etc.? what do you think?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-26 19:41 ]
well i can say that the render is very ugly,and actually it's Z1,only resize the screen & make the Sony logo bigger...
Posted by Ricky D
@yuunanase I would guess it has many of the updates stated as being included in the 4.3 updates rolling out now plus a few other changes
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2013-12-27 05:20 ]
Posted by amirprog
@badassmam
Interesting. so it means one part glass that wraps the whole phone? or they just go back to the Z construction which i guess will happen.
@BenLing
i agree he probably didn't invest time in it, but it's looks like a realistic design unlike other design that they make the device with a thickness of Z Ultra which won't happen cause of smaller dimensions, etc.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-27 08:25 ]
Posted by BenLing
On 2013-12-27 09:05:50, amirprog wrote:
@BenLing
i agree he probably didn't invest time in it, but it's looks like a realistic design unlike other design that they make the device with a thickness of Z Ultra which won't happen cause of smaller dimensions, etc.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-27 08:07 ]
How about my Z1 mini render ?
Posted by amirprog
@BenLing
Looks real as real can get. wouldn't change anything.
i see you also made a Z2 concept: http://www.concept-phones.com/?s=ben+ling
everything looks in proportions and in waterproof body. one thing, i bet they will keep the notification led on the top and headphone jack on the right.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-27 08:46 ]
Posted by huiyi
Z1F
Posted by motvikt
Haha nice that they advertise IPS in the mini version but not in the Z1
Posted by Detox
Yeah, I noticed that too
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10 days 11 hours 30 minutes or 251.5 hours left. This wait is killing me!
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Posted by xperia_sakth
Z1 weight 212 grams, something wrong in above picture..
Posted by Detox
Xperia Z1S (Sirius): Should be presented at CES 2014 and is destined for the American market. 5.2" screen, based on the same technical specifications of the Z1.
AND...
Xperia Z2 (Canopus): Release in May? Should be equipped with a Snapdragon 800 or Snapdragon 805, Sony apparently will stick to 5" screen.
Source: http://s.weibo.com/weibo/canopus&Refer=STopic_box
It's something...
[ This Message was edited by: Detox on 2013-12-27 14:05 ]
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2013-12-27 15:00:18, Detox wrote:
Xperia Z1S (Sirius): Should be presented at CES 2014 and is destined for the American market. 5.2" screen, based on the same technical specifications of the Z1.
AND...
Xperia Z2 (Canopus): Release in May? Should be equipped with a Snapdragon 800 or Snapdragon 805, Sony apparently will stick to 5" screen.
Source: http://s.weibo.com/weibo/canopus&Refer=STopic_box
It's something...
[ This Message was edited by: Detox on 2013-12-27 14:05 ]
4 flagships a year? Now that's something.
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2013-12-27 14:10 ]
Posted by razec
It seems like Sony is using Star names for their upcoming phones
the brigtest stars to be precise (except the sun of course )
Posted by nodarsixar
Posted by badassmam
@ RickyD
Yes, like the iPod mini but all glass. It wouldn't be the most durable design though which is why you'll probably see Samsung doing one edge only like their concept prototype.
@ amirprog
Sorry if I wasn't clear but I never said anything about Sony doing anything like that, I just spoke to a engineer who I see sometimes and that seems the most feasible way to remove the bezels. I expect Sony to keep with their current design because they have managed to keep the phone really thin.
Posted by itsjustJOH
We need our Japanese here!
Posted by jonfensu
Here is the source of nodarsixar post
International version of Sony Xperia Z1f to be unveiled on January 3rd?
and this...
Sony Xperia Z1S / Z1 Mini: Codenamed i3, Somewhat Expensive, and Coming Soon?
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-27 18:44 ]
Posted by tai020381
On 2013-12-27 18:29:05, nodarsixar wrote:
A major event on 3rd Jan . Below "07" is the counting down.
Posted by supercoolman
you'll see exactly 4 items - cellphone, laptop, camera and earphone if you go to that Sony China countdown website
Posted by McKinley
I'm so looking forward to the Xperia Z1s
I know it sounds silly to say this but I'm ditching my Galaxy Note 3 for that phone.
Posted by DexterMoser
^ I know what you're talking about. I'm ditching my S4 for either the Z1s or Z1 or whatever is the most advanced waterproof Sony phone in spring 2014.
Posted by Away
I literally fail to understand Sony's mobile division, and am confident no one in Sony understands it.
Sony had two phenomenal products this year which everyone should have bought.
The tablet z and the z1 mini.
The tablet z was incomparable to anything else out. And still is really. So Sony didn't bother to make the slightest fuss about it.
The z1 mini is the only phone which murders the iP5s in all categories that are relevant for many people with iP5. Premium design and build, small, good camera and screen and really fast. And Sony is waiting to sell it internationally, or is waiting for Samsung, LG, HTC or even Chinese companies to make true mini versions of their flagships.
In other words, where Sony were incomparable, they didn't care or take the slightest advantage.
Posted by jonfensu
@Away
Dont worry. The mini version always come after the flagships. It means that Z1 mini will have enough time over a "S5 mini" and "HTC M8 Mini". Even , I cant see Samsung and HTC releasing a mini version with the same specs of the flagship.
When Sony showed the Z1f in Japan, They created a big Hype on Z1 Mini.
Look at me. I am just counting down the days until the international release of Z1 mini in January
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-28 18:08 ]
Posted by PowerLee
Ahhhhhhh Z1 mini, ticks all the boxes for a decent camera phone for me apart from 1 - lack of xenon flash.
Until Sony see fit to add a xenon flash alongside the led to there camera phone line up I wont be parting with my money.
Hopefully the Z2 / Z2 mini will put this fault right.
Posted by jonfensu
@PowerLee
But Z1/Z1 Mini are not camera phones like 808/1020 or S4 Zoom. Z1/Z1 mini are just Smartphones with a good Camera
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-28 20:45 ]
Posted by PowerLee
Z1 / Z1 mini, the camera just isn't good enough in low light, it badly need's a xenon flash.
More people would buy a Sony Xperia phone IF the camera lived up to the hype.
Until Sony fit a xenon flash alongside the led so the camera is actually good in low light conditions, I wont be buying another Sony Xperia phone.
As for Nokia / Samsung, you couldn't pay me to have one of there phone's, previous experience of both there awful customer service is why I don't waste my money on there product offerings any more.
Posted by supercoolman
@PowerLee
your first step should be investing at least millions of dollars to get thin xenon sufficiently R&D and mass production, not just waiting and talk about the impossible at this moment.
Posted by PowerLee
I'm happy with my Arc S running Gingerbread at the moment, I just take a digital camera with me that has a xenon flash when I know I need low light camera performance.
Shame I have to carry 2 devices but for now it will have to do.
One day Sony will build a decent camera phone that actually lives up to the hype, until then ill hold on to my money.
Posted by CrownedAkuma
On 2013-12-28 22:06:21, supercoolman wrote:
@PowerLee
your first step should be investing at least millions of dollars to get thin xenon sufficiently R&D and mass production, not just waiting and talk about the impossible at this moment.
+1
Sony as of now likes their phone thin and beatiful... this is the real signature of Xperia's, the design.
as long as the use of a flash would make their phone bulkier they will not put it into their devices (I think)...
The 1020 is a good example beacause it's not that bulkier... but still it has a bump... and Sony do not like bumpyness
So guys I've been away from this awesome Rumor thread for a bit... (do not worry I will not ask any summary beacause I read all the 63 pages
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but... is the NO LEAK policy so bad and so strict???
On 2013-12-28 22:11:21, PowerLee wrote:
I'm happy with my Arc S running Gingerbread at the moment, I just take a digital camera with me that has a xenon flash when I know I need low light camera performance.
Shame I have to carry 2 devices but for now it will have to do.
One day Sony will build a decent camera phone that actually lives up to the hype, until then ill hold on to my money.
it's surely better to carry 2 devices than carrying Galaxy S4 Zoom with you!
LOL
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2013-12-28 21:14 ]
Posted by vivftp
On 2013-12-28 22:06:21, supercoolman wrote:
@PowerLee
your first step should be investing at least millions of dollars to get thin xenon sufficiently R&D and mass production, not just waiting and talk about the impossible at this moment.
What, you mean this?
http://phys.org/news/2013-02-small-mighty-xenon-mobile-great.html
Posted by supercoolman
＠vivftp
not exactly. the tech you referred to is only for reducing cap size and it's not in mass production yet. xenon still drains a good amount of energy from battery with this tech, so this is only part of the R&D. ideally, new flash tech should be thin and consume less power. we need innovation for camera flash just like how we go from vacuum tubes to transistors. that requires a lot of R&D.