Posted by itsjustJOH
^I doubt 2014 won't be any better for Sony.
And welcome back to the thread ramu!
Posted by sami92a
MartenR, Kaz have said that Sony won´t make a push on USA with phones..
Posted by DexterMoser
@king-james: Not really. The only thing where the Z1 (and the normal Z) is staying behind competition is the screen (especially viewing angles).
When it comes to other things like camera, water and dust resistance, physical shutter button, design, look and feel then Sony is and will be at leadt on par with competition or even superior.
@Leaked model number:
I hope this indicates a smaller bezel than the Z1.
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-12-19 15:46 ]
Posted by MNX1024
On 2013-12-19 16:14:08, king-james wrote:
Sony is and will stay behind competition. 2014 won't be better. Only the PS4 can save its ass!
I don't know, I think SONY might actually improve in 2014. Especially the imaging department with the A7/R. Those two cameras are making rounds in the media and currently has "NO" competitor products. Even made hardcore Leica fanboys giddy up, now that's something. So yeah, not just the PS4 will save its behind.
Personally, I acquired the A7 and the 55mm ZEISS myself
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Posted by Gitaroo
I think Sony signed a 1 year exclusive deal with t mobile in 2013, I am sure they learn from that horrible mistake because they did the same with Canada earlier and always being rogers exclusive and now xperia phones are available on all carrier and even sold unlock at Sony store. They still sign exclusive deal but only with specific colors.
Posted by ascariss
On 2013-12-19 15:54:13, randomuser wrote:
US scenario will change from this year (2014). Can't get into any specifics though, perhaps spectre51 can.
Overall a very interesting and wide portfolio for 2014 compared to this year. Especially tablets.
hopefully there is an 8 inch tablet there, and personally for me, better yet an 8 inch windows 8.1 tablets with wacom support. If it is just a ZU wifi as a tablet, then no thanks.
Posted by xdomino996
ZL2? ...
Posted by Felimenta97
No, just normal ZL. You can see it is exactly the same and has old UI lol
[ This Message was edited by: Felimenta97 on 2013-12-19 19:09 ]
Posted by xdomino996
On 2013-12-19 20:08:39, Felimenta97 wrote:
No, just normal ZL. You can see it is exactly the same and has old UI lol
[ This Message was edited by: Felimenta97 on 2013-12-19 19:09 ]
Ok, i think that's ZL
, but we can see ZL2 in CES.
Posted by kurtdean
More image sample http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]le-images-from-retail-handset/
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2013-12-20 01:23 ]
Posted by jonfensu
Doesnt seems bad, But we need the original photo
Talking about CES, Will sony launch other phones like D650x and D530x? or Should we wait for MWC?
Posted by reeflotz
^ Original photo is on the link, it is 8mp
Here's the exif for the photo kurtdean posted:
Model: SO-02F
Focal Length: 4.9 mm
1/1250 sec
f/2.0
ISO 50
I'm liking it so far, needs some more fine tuning, there's still a little bit of smeared details although not really bad, we need more samples.
[ This Message was edited by: reeflotz on 2013-12-20 03:18 ]
Posted by jonfensu
^Finally!
I was getting a "503 Service Unavailable"
Posted by Gitaroo
I don't see those image processing artifacts from the Z1 in the Z1f samples, new algorithem? Or sony finally realize it was no good and ditch it.
Posted by itsjustJOH
^It's because it's in 8 MP. You can only notice those artifacts at 20 MP.
Posted by Gitaroo
no, I see them in 8mp too, they really does put too much imagine processing in all the photos
Posted by moogoo
in broad daylight, like in that photo, Z1 doesn't produce processing artifacts at 8mp.. at least mine doesn't seem to.
to be honest, based on those Z1f samples, it looks pretty much the same as Z1 to me. I find it hard to believe they'd create a totally new and different processing engine for Z1f before they updated the Z1's ..
of course, stranger things have happened.
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2013-12-20 15:28:44, Gitaroo wrote:
no, I see them in 8mp too, they really does put too much imagine processing in all the photos
Only tiny bits, unlike when they are in 20 MP.
Posted by reeflotz
Agree with moogoo they're pretty much the same as Z1 and there might not be a difference at all, it shares identical hardware to Z1 right? only screen size and resolution is different.
Posted by jonfensu
No leaks for 1H Flashgip and other phones...Is here the calm before the storm?....
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-21 16:46 ]
Posted by itsjustJOH
It's been calm for weeks now.
Posted by Detox
Dat leak prevention
:
Posted by DexterMoser
'No more leakage!' leaked!
hilarious!
I really want to know more about the H1 flagship/refresh or whatever!
Posted by jonfensu
^ ROFL, True!
At the sime time, Its sad
Just look the first 60 pages of SONY Xperia Rumors 2013 Edition
and then look here [ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-21 18:57 ]
Posted by Away
That leaked policy is a few weeks old now.
Posted by Detox
It was more of a reminder than news.
Posted by bronxdude
anyone has a hint of the design philosophy for next year's lineup? the omnibalance is becoming tiring. hahaha!
Posted by jonfensu
^
I remember something.....According with ZOMG
[ RAY3]** will be a spiritual successor to the xperia S. 4.3' 720p screen. With small footprint and a s800 processor. 'using "A Touch of Quartz" design
Sense of Quartz
A design with Metal Frame and body made of Glass. The same that we have seen in ZU/Z1/Z1f
** Ray 3 = Z1F = Z1 Mini
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-22 04:44 ]
Posted by bipinm
Motion Shot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2573312
Motiongraph
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578800
Posted by Detox
Wow. Such talk. Many rumour. So opinion.
In other news:
An unknown Sony Xperia tablet with model number TS-0020-BV has passed through Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications website recently. The tablet is speculated to be the next model of Sony Xperia Tablet Z. The codename of the tablet is found to be Castor and is estimated to get released in the second quarter of 2014. As per MIC listing, the tablet does not support mobile network.
In related to the news, according to Blog of Mobile, Sony will be launching a smartphone in 2014 featuring model number D2004/D2005. As per Sony's model number schema, the D2XXX is pointing to be closer to the low-end smartphone category.
The smartphone will come with Android 4.3 Jelly Bean on-board, where the Sony D2004 will be released in US, and the Sony D2005 is for the international market. The smartphone is expected to get announced in the first quarter of 2014, probably at CES or at MWC.
http://www.techdroid.in/2013/[....]ed-sony-d2004-coming-soon.html
My pleasure!
Posted by itsjustJOH
A few weeks left until CES 2014 and we only have model numbers. Before, we knew everything about the next phones 2 months before announcement.
Posted by king-james
Codename of Z2 is Sirius.
Posted by amirprog
@king-james
Old news.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-22 17:08 ]
Posted by nodarsixar
xperia tianchi
http://www.thlw8s.com/?p=1150
Posted by milukugiuniu
According to China's source, Tianchi will use Qualcomm CPU. Screen will be IPS. Price will be resonablely low.
Tianchi will be announced along with Z1 Mini on Jan. 6.
Posted by maloqs
Xperia D5303 with score of 30145 in antutu benchmark
Xperia D6503??
[ This Message was edited by: maloqs on 2013-12-23 11:09 ]
Posted by BenLing
New Sony Xperia Model SGP 521, D2005 & D2105 spotted at Indonesian Postel
[ This Message was edited by: BenLing on 2013-12-23 11:46 ]
Posted by Ricky D
That must mean the next Tablet Z is close. Can't wait!
Posted by xdomino996
D5303 with Snapdragon 600? (and HD screen) or new chipset?
D6503 is mystery.
D2005&D2105 has ~13k in antutu, Snapdragon 400 or 410.
Posted by amirprog
About the new model names, look at the chart: http://www.gsmarena.com/six_s[....]t_antutu_as_well-news-7414.php
I think that it pretty much confirms that the flagship won't show at CES. with all these phones showing at CES they will have to save something for MWC. also the rumors point at "probably MWC", "march release in japan".
Posted by itsjustJOH
D2105
D2005
D5303
D6503
Source: Sony D6503, D5303, D2105, D2005 AnTuTu Benchmark Scores Leaks – 2014 Models
I guess these guys would show up on MWC, Xperia Z1 mini and the Z Ultra WiFi (?) on CES, then next flagship probably on March.
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2013-12-23 15:53 ]
Posted by jonfensu
Wow! The results of C530x seems impresive
So. Which SoCs will Sony use in 1H 2014 phones? S400,S600 and S800?
@milu
Sounds like every Sony smartphone in 2014 will use IPS
@itsjustJOH
You put D5503 instead of D5303 in D5303 SS
Posted by amirprog
@jonfensu
Yeah, IPS LCD is best match overall imo. if it matches or surpass htc one or g2 then it's a good deal.
for cup, i guess new L and M- 410. Z1s (mini), new ZL, new SP - 800. flagship - 805 at MWC. flagship benchmarks should rise much more then 30000 so it's clearly not there.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-23 19:12 ]
Posted by Gitaroo
Z ultra Wifi, is that like a tablet in Z ultra size? I think All the high end device will be triluminos + IPS.
Posted by jonfensu
@amirprog
But I think that D530x will use a S600 SoC (Maybe the APQ8064AB variant - CPU 1.9GHz, GPU 450Mhz) because the Xiaomi Mi-2S (APQ8064T - CPU 1.7GHz,GPU 400MHz and 720p Screen) gets a score of 28 000
Posted by amirprog
@jonfensu
sounds reasonable actually. maybe they want to differentiate z1s from the rest of the new phones and give it 800 exclusively. also, maybe z1s is the official name of the mini after all? as for "small"? "short"? quite fitting and original.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-23 20:57 ]
Posted by milukugiuniu
@jonfensu
Yes, IPS will be the major screen type for Sony 2014 devices.
Posted by jonfensu
Thanks @milu .Thats sounds great because TFT screen was a fault (a big one) in 2013 phones. So IPS screen for 2014 is XR5 ? And Do you know if sony will release other phones like D530x or D650x in CES? thanks in advance
@amirprog
Yep, Something like Sony did with Z series (S4 Pro Quad Core) and SP (S4 Pro Dual Core) But now the difference might be the GPU instead CPU. And Z1s tag fits perfectly with Z1 mini
but I remember when DACHA said that Z1s is not Z1 mini (XR5) and other insiders agree with that statement
Only CES will clear every doubt
PS. Anyone know Where is Razec? Because OP is a bit outdated
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-24 04:44 ]
Posted by Xajel
On 2013-12-24 05:40:11, jonfensu wrote:
Thanks @milu .Thats sounds great because TFT screen was a fault (a big one) in 2013 phones. So IPS screen for 2014 is XR5 ?
@amirprog
but I remember when DACHA said that Z1s is not Z1 mini (XR5) and other insiders agree with that statement
1st : Again with this TFT is not good and IPS is good ? just to refresh your information
TFT : Thin Film Transistor, It's the way the display control each pixel (sub-pixel), it's a layer in the display that sit's between the controller and the individual pixels so the controller can control each pixel and sub-pixel...
TFT technology is used widely in a variety of displays including LCD and AMOLED... yes AMOLED is the TFT enabled OLED display...
IPS : In Plane Switching, It's another way compared to TN to arrange the molecules of the liquid crystal, basically, in TN the molecules will twist from standing between the layers of glass ( creating a 90 degrees with the glass ) to be in parallel with the glass ( 0 degree with the glass )... in IPS the molecules always in parallel with the glass ( 0 degree ), they just rotate in the their place in order to twist the light to pass from the polarised layers of glass...
Here's a pic that compares TN to IPS and also VA to make is simple in case my english wasn't that much helping
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/images/ips_layout.jpg
TN, VA and IPS are LCD Displays, this mean they use Liquid Crystals to switch the light on and off, and also all of them TN, VA and IPS uses a TFT layer to control this switch.. even AMOLED uses a TFT layer to control it's pixels
So TN, IPS, VA, AMOLED are using TFT...
as you can see, TFT is NOT a display type... it's technology to control individual pixels ( and sub-pixels ) regardless of the panel type ( panel type like TN, IPS and VA ), or display technology ( like LCD based or OLED based )
and IPS, TN and VA are panels type, or how the the light is being controlled by using different alignment and arrangement of the liquid crystal molecules...
And here's a good article that explains these panels in details with pictures
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/a[....]l_technologies_content.htm#ips
Eh....
regarding that Z1s, the known thing now ( still rumour though ), is that Z1s will be a slightly upgraded Z1.. like how iPhone 4s is compared to iPhone 4, and iPhone 5s is to iPhone 5...
the successor is Z2
we call it Z2 just to know it as the true successor, nothing is confirmed yet.. the only thing that we know ( I don't know which XR ) is that the next flag ship wont be named Z2.. and will be a slight upgrade to Z1...
Imagine ARC and ARC S...
[ This Message was edited by: Xajel on 2013-12-24 06:13 ]
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2013-12-23 21:21:30, jonfensu wrote:
@amirprog
But I think that D530x will use a S600 SoC (Maybe the APQ8064AB variant - CPU 1.9GHz, GPU 450Mhz) because the Xiaomi Mi-2S (APQ8064T - CPU 1.7GHz,GPU 400MHz and 720p Screen) gets a score of 28 000
I highly doubt it would have an S600. First, ramu said before that there wouldn't be a device with a S600 for 2013, and apparently there wasn't so it's most likely the same case for next year. Second, Sony is now going for the latest SoCs, as what they did with ZU being the first with S800. It could be a next gen S600, though.
On 2013-12-23 20:13:02, Gitaroo wrote:
Z ultra Wifi, is that like a tablet in Z ultra size? I think All the high end device will be triluminos + IPS.
Yeah, zomgbbqftw mentioned it in neogaf. He managed to get a hands on, said it's the same ZU but WiFi only, soft back and ran 4.4.