Posted by goldenface
I'd say the mini was almost in a class of it's own. I'd be happy with the way things are right now, Z2 Z2s. Z Ultra s, Z Mini and a couple of tablets.
Posted by Detox
+1. Even if it doesn't sound very original, it's much better than to pretend (maybe too harsh) the next Xperia Z flagship after just a half year.
Oh, and in Maia we trust
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Posted by hihihans
+2
adding the s makes clear it's an update. Not something new.
I would prefer if manufacturers wouldn't fload us with 100 models each year. It's impossible to keep up.
Posted by Away
What's wrong with updated flagships? As long as they get the support a flagship product should, what's the problem?
Posted by amirprog
@Away
there is good and bad in everything, but since most people don't buy a phone every half a year i will write the bad:
less anticipation. updates not as big. less time to focus, optimize and test the device before release (?) - i said that before but someone here said that it's not a problem because sony have different teams working on each phone long before it's release, but wouldn't more working resources on one product instead of two bring more complete product for release time? it's kind of sucks to be early adopter cause then you wait for firmware updates to fix this and that problem... more focus on one device - less problems (?)
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-05 13:41 ]
Posted by itsjustJOH
OT:
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - OFFICIAL Trailer!
It's gonna be a big year for Sony Pictures again, after a disappointing 2013.
Now, back to topic, about maia's info, nah I doubt it.
Posted by Gitaroo
On 2013-12-04 23:12:14, aussiefella wrote:
so only one ultra and mini per year!
also seams like less mid range and low range in the second half of this year so maybe they will mainly be released first half of the year.
I'm glad though if there are less devices made per year so more effort can be put into a few really great devices. I think sony would also make more money that way because each product would be for sale for longer.
[ This Message was edited by: aussiefella on 2013-12-04 22:34 ]
unfortunately that is not how Japan works especially when it Sony has gain significant ground in that market and also become one of their main market. They said it before that smartphones needs to come and go like fashion trend, almost like a seasonal thing. Which is why the xperia A was so popular, even more than the Z. So realistically they probably need 3-4 different mid end products a year to keep things fresh, and flagship may not necessary be the top seller, mid end with decent specs and lower price point like the Xperia A was the main attraction before those many of those customers probably switch to a new device every year or year and a half. Spending less and upgrading more frequently probably more feasible for them financially. So they probably need 3 mid end and 2 high end a year. A ultra like phablet maybe for H1 and 5" for H2, maybe a Z1F like flagship to replace one of the mid end, and other 2 mid end to fill in the gap between.
[ This Message was edited by: Gitaroo on 2013-12-05 16:42 ]
Posted by sami92a
On 2013-12-05 17:02:35, itsjustJOH wrote:
OT:
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - OFFICIAL Trailer!
It's gonna be a big year for Sony Pictures again, after a disappointing 2013.
Now, back to topic, about maia's info, nah I doubt it.
When it comes to Sony pictures its always disappointing.. Sony pictures is bleeding money so they are going to cut down on that part of the company. Ontopic: Don´t say you doubt it without saying why
Maia´s Info has been proven correct many times before
Posted by itsjustJOH
^And maia also had some, or a lot, of wrong info before. For me, I doubt that Sony would continue on with that naming scheme.
Posted by Detox
The Z1S will probably be to the Xperia Z1 what the arc S was to the Xperia arc. They couldn't call the Xperia S refresh SS, but SL. With that exception, the Z1S would mean going back to the roots
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Posted by MusaD.Dragon
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]nches-on-19-december-in-japan/ !!
Posted by nodarsixar
good concept (xda forum)
Posted by razec
No posting of concepts please
Posted by nodarsixar
okey, sorry
Posted by jonfensu
Hi! First post here.
Is there any info about Z1 Mini price? Will sony launch other phones, maybe a SP succesor or a ZL1? Thanks
Posted by MartenR
@ Ambroos regarding your comment on Xperiablog, what is the UI change you are refering to?
Posted by jonfensu
^ New UI for 2013 1H phones (Z,ZL,ZR,SP,) will be the same Z1,ZU,Z1f UI... I guess
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-07 18:38 ]
Posted by supercoolman
On 2013-12-07 19:34:39, jonfensu wrote:
^ New UI for 2013 1H phones (Z,ZL,ZR,SP,) will be the same Z1,ZU,Z1f UI... I guess
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-07 18:38 ]
new = same?
doesn't make sense. what's new about the same?
Posted by jonfensu
On 2013-12-08 00:46:50, supercoolman wrote:
On 2013-12-07 19:34:39, jonfensu wrote:
^ New UI for 2013 1H phones (Z,ZL,ZR,SP,) will be the same Z1,ZU,Z1f UI... I guess
new = same?
doesn't make sense. what's new about the same?
In 4.3, the UI will be "new" only for 2013 1H phones, but its the same (or similar) that we ve seen in ZU,Z1 with 4.2.2..... Maybe Sony add slight changes.
Sorry If my english is not proper
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-08 01:07 ]
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2013-12-02 23:18:26, hihihans wrote:
@redhotiron. That's why I changed to Android. For normal use Windows Phone is a great OS but if you want it to be more of a pocketsize PC it fails.
[ This Message was edited by: hihihans on 2013-12-02 22:19 ]
Can't really say pocket sized computer unless you fully use it as one, daily.
Who else here does not have a computer and ONLY their smartphone?! As of last week I no longer have my Mac or a PC so many tasks I have to learn or do on my HTC One is frustrating.
1. I have over 15 folders in one of my email accounts, with rules setup - it's my primary mailbox. I want to create new more sensible folders, move emails in them and assign the existing or new rules for them, all while mail still keeps arriving. And to do this without an app for the email service (I'm choosing not to use an app) it's not as easy as you may think. Many folders will remain the same name but I have to no longer have sub folders within and I don't want to delete folders with email within.
2 some websites for training I cannot access, I'm pissed off with Apple not allowing chrome mobile or Android Internet browser to access icloud!!
Androids' email for exchange needs some serious work in terms of layout or GUI.
These are just some things that are annoying but I'm working to figure out. I'm very curious who here has found they can do 90% of what they do with a PC on their Android?!
Posted by Xajel
So what event should we wait for
[ This Message was edited by: Xajel on 2013-12-09 09:50 ]
Posted by Detox
Well, CES 2014 is right around the corner (January 7-10) and Kaz will give the opening keynote speech
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Posted by nodarsixar
xperia z1s
http://www.xperiaguide.com/20[....]-tenaa-network-license-passed/
Posted by Xajel
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]an-appearance-on-chinas-tenaa/
[ This Message was edited by: Xajel on 2013-12-09 10:57 ]
Posted by amirprog
are we looking at the Z1 successor?
Posted by itsjustJOH
Looks exactly like Z1, photo from China, must be a dual-sim Z1.
Posted by amirprog
@itsjustJOH
oops, it's can't be the z1 successor cause the rumor says that it will have 5.2 inch display... the pics show the same display size of z1. next.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-09 18:20 ]
Posted by jonfensu
@amirprog Maybe the 5.2" Phone will be the Z2,wont the Z1S
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-10 00:13 ]
Posted by unknownC151A
Z1f launch coming extremely soon
Launch I heard is 19 Dec. Might be unreliable though.
Posted by huiyi
Posted by supercoolman
@huiyi
2014 1H XPERIA using anyone of those?
Posted by amirprog
On 2013-12-10 00:27:33, jonfensu wrote:
@amirprog Maybe the 5.2" Phone will be the Z2,wont the Z1S
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-10 00:13 ]
The rumor here say that the "z1s" will have that display size - read the first page. are you saying this based on a source or just your own opinion?
@huiyi
for 2H 2014 xperia devices?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-10 06:19 ]
Posted by Xajel
Yeah, Qualcomm just announced a budget 64bit Snapdragon 410 and the said that devices with this chip will appear in 2H14, So I guess they saved these higher-end to bigger events like CES or MWC...
So guys, some may just decided to skip Z1s for Z2 for these big changes... wonder what else the Z2 might come with...
Posted by supercoolman
On 2013-12-10 08:22:45, Xajel wrote:
Yeah, Qualcomm just announced a budget 64bit Snapdragon 410 and the said that devices with this chip will appear in 2H14, So I guess they saved these higher-end to bigger events like CES or MWC...
So guys, some may just decided to skip Z1s for Z2 for these big changes... wonder what else the Z2 might come with...
sonar, beacon, toaster, surfboard...etc
Posted by xperia_sakth
Now google starts rolling out Android 4.4.2 to Nexus devices, so special edition red Z1 is true?
Posted by qqqw
@unknownC151A
Dec 19 is the launch date for Docomo Z1f. Do you mean you heard it will be released internationally same day?
Posted by amirprog
@xperia_sakth
red z1 is photoshop
Posted by goldenface
Sony is hinting that 2014 will be the year of 4k content.
What can we expect from Xperia phones? 4K recording? Will this be in the Z2?
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2013-12-10 08:22:45, Xajel wrote:
Yeah, Qualcomm just announced a budget 64bit Snapdragon 410 and the said that devices with this chip will appear in 2H14, So I guess they saved these higher-end to bigger events like CES or MWC...
So guys, some may just decided to skip Z1s for Z2 for these big changes... wonder what else the Z2 might come with...
Actually, the 410 looks like it's for low-end and mid-range phones. The 805, strangely, has no 64-bit support.
Posted by jonfensu
On 2013-12-10 07:10:27, amirprog wrote:
The rumor here say that the "z1s" will have that display size - read the first page. are you saying this based on a source or just your own opinion?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-10 06:19 ]
Check the first post again
"(XR4) Z2, the Z1's 2014 successor, 5.2" 1920x1080 IPS screen" ... Z1s seems more like a revamped edition than a proper successor, thats my opinion [ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-10 17:14 ]
Posted by amirprog
On 2013-12-10 18:09:25, jonfensu wrote:
On 2013-12-10 07:10:27, amirprog wrote:
The rumor here say that the "z1s" will have that display size - read the first page. are you saying this based on a source or just your own opinion?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-10 06:19 ]
Check the first post again
"(XR4) Z2, the Z1's 2014 successor, 5.2" 1920x1080 IPS screen" ... Z1s seems more like a revamped edition than a proper successor, thats my opinion
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2013-12-10 17:14 ]
you misunderstood the line because it's not written correctly:
"Update: 10/26 (XR4) Z2, the Z1's 2014 successor, 5.2" 1920x1080 IPS screen Page 10 " - "Z2" = Z1s.
Posted by Felimenta97
Bit buggy, because I'm using a proxy, but look who just arrived into Play Store:
Posted by Xajel
I just came to say this...
Google just announced Xperia Z Ultra GPE along with LG 8 incher tablet...
Good job Sony, but we need it earlier and much closer to the original version release... and let's have GPE of Z1's and Z2 also not just the ultra
Posted by ascariss
Highly tempting but I am going to wait for CES and see if sony brings some windows tablets to the game, 8 inch I mean.
Posted by sami92a
Sony z Ultra google edition seem nice
and also they removed the Xperia Name because Sony wants it to be Recognized with their UI only
Posted by goldenface
That's an interesting development. I can see why they dropped the Xperia name too.
Posted by Away
http://mobile.theverge.com/20[....]ing-from-unnamed-oem-next-year
It's Sony.
Posted by DexterMoser
^ Are you sure?
That'd be great, I'd love to see a highend Sony with Ubuntu Touch!
On 2013-12-10 10:14:35, qqqw wrote:
@unknownC151A
Dec 19 is the launch date for Docomo Z1f. Do you mean you heard it will be released internationally same day?
Just the Docomo Z1f, not the international mini version.
@amirprog:
According to whom Z1s = Z2 ?
Maia recently said Z1s will not be Z2, which sounded logically to me.
@Z Ultra GPE:
It was time for a Sony GPE device! Very good!
Posted by Xajel
From what I understood for Sony flagship strategy
There will be two phones
1- The main phone: slated for second half launch
2- Upgraded phone: slated for first half launch, comes with the same name as the main phone but with "s" at the end, the design language is also the same.. just slightly upgraded spec.
The strategy is for 2014, but coz the upgraded phone is meant to be launched in the first half of 2014, then the strategy actually already started with Xperia Z1 as the main phone, if somebody here knows a little bit about PC component, then it will look like Intel's Tick Tock strategy, Tick is an upgrade for the original microarchitecture ( new process and maybe slight changes to performance/feature set), while the Tock is a complete new microarchitecture...
1H13: Xperia Z
2H13: Xperia Z1 (Tock - New design and phone)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We Are Here
1H14: Xperia Z1s (Tick - slightly upgraded Z1)
2H14: Xperia Z2 (Tock - New design and phone, the true successor to Z1)
1H15: Xperia Z2s (Tick - slightly upgraded Z2)
2H15: Xperia Z3 (Tock - New design and phone, the true successor to Z2)
1H16: Xperia Z3s (Tick - slightly upgraded Z3)
2H16: ...
if we and the strategy lived that long
But what we will have next is the Tick, not a successor to Z1, but an upgrade... better clocked SoC, better screen and more mature overall software ( specially camera )
later in 2H14 we will have the Tock, the true successor to Z1, which we call it Z2 ( we don't know how it will be called ), and if things went as what we wish, it will have the new Qualcomm 64bit SoC with Krait64 core, Quad or Octa who knows, maybe the Octa is destined for Tablets only...
Posted by amirprog
@DexterMoser
you misunderstood maia. read what Xajel wrote. the mobile sites news is also confusing. they call z1s the china z1... no rumor is 100% accurate, but z1s as the z1 successor is logical for announcement in less then half a year of the previous announcement. that way z1 users are not pissed off.