Posted by ascariss
On 2014-12-07 23:37:26, Velexas wrote:
http://www.techradar.com/news[....]napdragon-810-defects--1275829
SD810 delays?
Qualcomm says 'nope'.
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of course Qualcomm will deny it, a delay would not be good for the bottom line and would probably hurt the stock. Just hoping a mid march to early april launch for Z4 is still feasible.
Posted by amirprog
^^
I think that the worst thing that could happen is that manufacturers delay the release of s810 devices to april or may and aside of that it's just mobile news drama to get more page views.
Posted by nodarsixar
Amazing
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]gonal-upgraded-chipset_id63597
Posted by XperiaJunkie
Something is wrong with those slides, it shows the SD805 (APQ8084) in image 1, but in image 2 it clearly says it will be using the SD810 (MSM8994) on other thing , in image 3 the first slide showing the dual speakers, they don't look balanced as the bottom speaker isn't flush with edge of the device but the top one is however that could just be the angle of the image.
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Posted by maloqs
Lol the first picture shows that the screen use 5.2 quad hd(barely can be seen).However,i believe huiyi source is more accurate afterall.
Posted by nodarsixar
huiyi INFO
5.2 INCH 1080P and QHD
Snapdragon 810
20.7MP
IP68
NEW UI
Same
amazing spec, but......................
Posted by kurtdean
@nodasixar
Are you a robot？Sounds like you don‘t have any souls
just joking b'ro
Posted by Xajel
Qualcomm might facing problems, but they can deny problems if these problems will not stop them from releasing it in time... there's multiple scenarios that they can deny but still there's problems
1- Limited quantity : Having small quantity will not stop them from releasing it on-time this happens with low yield manufacturing as the design will have too much defect's cores... the working SoC wont be enough to cover the demand, we might have limited quantity even with phones, some manufacturers might release it in a region first and delay the release in other regions... Sony had this scenario before with Xperia arc where they delayed the release for MENA and Australia for about 6 months...
2- Over heating/high power usage : While this might seems hard to fix, they might actually release it, but manufacturers will not adopt it like what happened to Tegra chipsets as they were power hungry limiting the design wins...
3- lower clock than expected : While as mentioned before, clock speed doesn't equal performance, the core design might have higher IPC than other designs making a 2.0GHz works as fast as a 2.7GHz older design... we're seeing this with Apple design... we know that A57 cores ( used in S810 ) has higher IPC than A15, but we don't know how much yet, I mean if we compared a 2.7GHz A15 core, will a 2.0GHz A57 be enough or we need more like 2.5GHz so a lower clock might not be a problem, BUT, if it was very low that it will have lower performance than previous gen. then here's a problem... if we need a 2.5GHz A57 core to equal a 2.7GHz A15, but the design maxes out at 2.1GHz or 2.2GHz then it's a problem... manufacturers will move to the fastest, which in our case will be the 2.7GHz SoC ( the 805 which is not A15 )
Posted by nodarsixar
On 2014-12-08 13:27:03, kurtdean wrote:
@nodasixar
Are you a robot？Sounds like you don‘t have any souls :lol: just joking b'ro
:D
Posted by Velexas
4GB of RAM should be a must-have for SONY to be competitive in 2015. Specially featuring a SD810. Don't you agree?
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Posted by motvikt
I hope Huiyi is right, it would be a good flagship for 2015. Both Samsung and HTC rumors point towards snapdragon 810 and I would be very surprised if Sony was the only one with 805
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Posted by nodarsixar
Xperia E4
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]xperia-model-numbers-revealed/
Posted by Detox
nodarsixar, you're on fire dude
.
Posted by nodarsixar
On 2014-12-08 16:30:08, Detox wrote:
nodarsixar, you're on fire dude :lol: .
ha ha ha ha :lol:
Posted by Velexas
My dream Z4 compact:
4.7 1080p IPS
SD810 8894
4GB RAM
32GB ROM + SD
IP68
21 MPX G Lens
Posted by goldenface
On 2014-12-08 21:21:21, Velexas wrote:
My dream Z4 compact:
4.7 1080p IPS
SD810 8894
4GB RAM
32GB ROM + SD
IP68
21 MPX G Lens
Yup yup yup! Although I'd be happy with 3GB.
Posted by Detox
Everything seems realistic respectively expected, except the RAM, which could be anything between 2 and 4 GB, but I think Sony won't go over 3 for the Compact and 32 GB ROM should really be the standard. 4.7" is hopefully the limit for the Compact and to be honest, I would still rather see a 720p than a 1080p screen. And of course, please again without an increase in body size
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Posted by JohnnyNr.5
If Sony is asking for a premium price then the Z4C should have premium specs like 1080p screen and 4GB RAM since Meizu is rumored to release a "budget" 4,6" device with 1080p resolution, 64bit soc and 2GB of RAM for just 130USD http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]64-bit-chipset-for-130_id63631
Posted by blank3609
Another news about sd810.
Qualcomn will block some feature in gpu. It's better than not working. Isn't it?
And their engineers are full working to fix cpu problem until feburary 2015.
Qualcomn's cs team will visit manufatures in december and january of 2015 to promote manufactures to use sd810.
Posted by Luca-S
I'm so satisfied with Z3 and Z2 that i don't care about rumors anymore
But i know i'll buy the Z4 when available in my country...
Posted by nodarsixar
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 with Snapdragon 810
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]-tested-in-South-Korea_id63644
Posted by MrHappyFit
Seems like sony may go for a flat design.
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]nts-at-material-design-future/
Posted by Aycaramba
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Posted by nodarsixar
2015 Sony's phones Best variant
Xperia E4 (I think ,no)
Xperia M4- Snapdragon 410, 2GB RAM, 13MP, 4.8 inch 720P, 2600Mah battery, 250 dolar
Xperia C4(I think ,no)
Xperia T4- Snapdragon 615, 2GB Ram, 5.5 Inch 1080P, 13MP, 3100 Mah battery, 300 dolar
Xperia Z4 -5.5 Inch , 2K, 3500-3700 mah battery, 21MP main and 5MP frontal Camera, Snapdragon 810, 4GB RAM, 600 dolar
Xperia Z4 Compact- 4.7-4.9 inch 1080P, 3200 mah battery, 21MP main and 5MP frontal Camera, Snapdragon 810, 4GB RAM, 600 dolar
Xperia Z4 Ultra (I think ,no)
????????
Posted by amirprog
^^
Sony seriously need to wake up when it comes to low and mid range devices. E and M lines are pretty weak with none competitive prices. motorola is the king of low and mid range. yesterday i ordered moto g 2nd gen. for my mom from amazon for a laughable price including shipping and taxes and original moto case all for about 205 euros (!). 5" bright 720p display, dual speakers, good front and back camera for price with flash, dual sim, etc. i wanted to choose xperia for my mom but neither E or M line are worth it.
Posted by xperiazultra
I really don't think there will be any Z4 series at CES. They will announce them at MWC with SD810 because Sony does not have any other choice. They changed the release cycle. With an April release they're going to sell more Z3s. I wonder whether the 5.9" Z4 Ultra or 6.44" Z4 Ultra will be announced.
Posted by huiyi
On 2014-12-10 17:53:39, nodarsixar wrote:
2015 Sony's phones Best variant
Xperia E4 (I think ,no)
Xperia M4- Snapdragon 410, 2GB RAM, 13MP, 4.8 inch 720P, 2600Mah battery, 250 dolar
Xperia C4(I think ,no)
Xperia T4- Snapdragon 615, 2GB Ram, 5.5 Inch 1080P, 13MP, 3100 Mah battery, 300 dolar
Xperia Z4 -5.5 Inch , 2K, 3500-3700 mah battery, 21MP main and 5MP frontal Camera, Snapdragon 810, 4GB RAM, 600 dolar
Xperia Z4 Compact- 4.7-4.9 inch 1080P, 3200 mah battery, 21MP main and 5MP frontal Camera, Snapdragon 810, 4GB RAM, 600 dolar
Xperia Z4 Ultra (I think ,no)
????????
No Z4Cpmpact no z4 UITRA!!
Posted by kurtdean
^ noooo
Posted by nodarsixar
On 2014-12-11 02:41:16, huiyi wrote:
On 2014-12-10 17:53:39, nodarsixar wrote:
2015 Sony's phones Best variant
Xperia E4 (I think ,no)
Xperia M4- Snapdragon 410, 2GB RAM, 13MP, 4.8 inch 720P, 2600Mah battery, 250 dolar
Xperia C4(I think ,no)
Xperia T4- Snapdragon 615, 2GB Ram, 5.5 Inch 1080P, 13MP, 3100 Mah battery, 300 dolar
Xperia Z4 -5.5 Inch , 2K, 3500-3700 mah battery, 21MP main and 5MP frontal Camera, Snapdragon 810, 4GB RAM, 600 dolar
Xperia Z4 Compact- 4.7-4.9 inch 1080P, 3200 mah battery, 21MP main and 5MP frontal Camera, Snapdragon 810, 4GB RAM, 600 dolar
Xperia Z4 Ultra (I think ,no)
????????
No Z4Cpmpact no z4 UITRA!!
What information do you have?
Posted by nodarsixar
Z4, Z4 Tablet= MWC 2015
Z5, Z5 Compact, Z5 Tablet Compact =IFA 2015?
Posted by JohnnyNr.5
2 1/2 month till MWC and so many contradicting rumours... I am always open for a nice surprise
Since there are no real leaks everything is possible.
Posted by Velexas
The thing is: if SONY really stopped its 6 months cycle, then the Z4 compact will exist (and Z4 is the 2015 line, which means -> no Z5 at IFA: Z5 is the 2016 line).
Posted by JohnnyNr.5
Exactly. If there is now a 9 - 12 month cycle then releasing all z variants at (almost) the same time would the logical solution
Posted by nodarsixar
we have Z4 spec!
5.2 inch
Snapdragon 810
3GB Ram
3300 Mah Battery
21MP Camera
New UI
Best AUDIO
IP68
140gram
LTE CAt 6
Posted by DexterMoser
^What is your source?
Posted by nodarsixar
On 2014-12-11 11:06:52, DexterMoser wrote:
^What is your source?
huiyi
AND
Posted by Velexas
@nodarsixar: Seems great! But I still find 4GB of RAM in 2015 to be obligatory.
What about the Z4c?
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Posted by nodarsixar
On 2014-12-11 11:39:22, Velexas wrote:
@nodarsixar: Seems great! But I still find 4GB of RAM in 2015 to be obligatory.
What about the Z4c?
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Galaxy S6=3GB RAM
HTC HIMA (M9)=3GB RAM
I think Z5 series (Z5,Z5 Compact and Z5 Tablet Compact) will come out in September, with 4GB RAM
Z4 and Z4 Tablet Will be released in March, Compact version will not be
Z1 Compact, Z3 Compact, Z5 Compact, Z7 Comact and..................
Posted by rency0722
I think Sony will still not include the Optical Steadyshot at this moment for Z4. With the recent A7m2 camera, better if they develop a 5-axis Optical Steadyshot for mobile, but I can't think of any reason where does this feature will be used.
Phase-detection autofocus is a nice addition. Hope that it does fare well in today's focusing prowess of other flagships. But I am still welcoming the inclusion of faster capturing (ever than before), as well as manual photography (shutter/aperture/manual priority).
Global shutter is welcome. Though I still foresee this in the future of mobile imaging tech, not now.
On the front cam, Sony should also up its ante of having 1/3.0" 5-megapixel front cam with bright f/1.9 lens.
Posted by xperiazultra
On 2014-12-11 11:05:08, nodarsixar wrote:
we have Z4 spec!
5.2 inch
Snapdragon 810
3GB Ram
3300 Mah Battery
21MP Camera
New UI
Best AUDIO
IP68
140gram
LTE CAt 6
Nodarsixar does your source have any info about Xperia Z4 Ultra?
Posted by ascariss
On 2014-12-11 12:08:55, rency0722 wrote:
I think Sony will still not include the Optical Steadyshot at this moment for Z4. With the recent A7m2 camera, better if they develop a 5-axis Optical Steadyshot for mobile, but I can't think of any reason where does this feature will be used.
Phase-detection autofocus is a nice addition. Hope that it does fare well in today's focusing prowess of other flagships. But I am still welcoming the inclusion of faster capturing (ever than before), as well as manual photography (shutter/aperture/manual priority).
Global shutter is welcome. Though I still foresee this in the future of mobile imaging tech, not now.
On the front cam, Sony should also up its ante of having 1/3.0" 5-megapixel front cam with bright f/1.9 lens.
5 axis optical steadyshot for mobile? I am not sure how feasible this would be, since this would probably add more bulk to the sensor module and increase its size. I doubt there would be much space for that in the new Z4. I feel just the standard optical image stabilization would be a good start, at least for stills, since the current steady shot in the Z3 for video is pretty good.
I would prefer phase detection and better image processing algorithm be sorted first since these 2 would have better impact on image quality.
Posted by nodarsixar
On 2014-12-11 13:24:35, xperiazultra wrote:
On 2014-12-11 11:05:08, nodarsixar wrote:
we have Z4 spec!
5.2 inch
Snapdragon 810
3GB Ram
3300 Mah Battery
21MP Camera
New UI
Best AUDIO
IP68
140gram
LTE CAt 6
Nodarsixar does your source have any info about Xperia Z4 Ultra?
I have only digi forum's info
https://www.facebook.com/geor[....]20788571289291/?type=3&theater
Z3S= Z3 sucessor
Z3X= 6.14 inch phablet
and Z4
Posted by Xajel
I agree with @ascariss regarding the image enhancement required at the moment, not to mention the complication and bulkiness of the 5 axis optical steadyshot...
That picture, if proved legit, mentioned 3GB (TBD) in RAM... what I think this means is that Sony ( and all other manufacturers ) are evaluating the need for 4GB compared to 3GB even in the near future ( till the next flagship they will have ) If the current usage will not benefit from 4GB compared to 3GB even if we would love to have it as a future proof spec. they will not add it as they want to spare something for their next flagship... specially that Android L now has better memory management so 4GB might not actually have that much change in the UE, but because this is TBD, they might have 4GB at the end if they saw something that will benefit them...
Posted by amirprog
On 2014-10-18 12:20:37, amirprog wrote:
If the latest rumors are true about one main flag per year then sony announcements are most likely going to be:
mwc: z4, z4 tablet.
middle of the year event: z4 ultra or sony keeps ignoring the 6" display device market and the main flag takes the phablet roll since it will have 5.5" display. i hope they don't ignore it.
ifa: z4 compact, z4 tablet compact.
I'm a good predictor.
Posted by XperiaJunkie
Hi guys, just letting you all know that Hans has asked myself to do next year's rumors thread due to no activity or response from itsjustJOH. I'm working on it as I type this and will try to have it live asap.
Cheers, XperiaJunkie.
Posted by Ebato
I think Z5 series (Z5,Z5 Compact and Z5 Tablet Compact) will come out in September, with 4GB RAM
Z4 and Z4 Tablet Will be released in March, Compact version will not be
Z4 and Z4 Tablet Will be released in March, Compact version will not be
Z5 in 2015? I highly doubt it. Z4 compact and Z4 tablet compact during the summer - maybe, but if they stick to that 6 month nonsense again, I think they can safely close their mobile division. Screw them anyway, I'm getting S6 (or the WP Samsung if they release one) or the new Microsoft flagship whatever that might be.
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Posted by motvikt
On 2014-12-11 20:49:28, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Hi guys, just letting you all know that Hans has asked myself to do next year's rumors thread due to no activity or response from itsjustJOH. I'm working on it as I type this and will try to have it live asap.
Cheers, XperiaJunkie.
Awesome, good luck!
Posted by rss_ndrsn
2-axis optical image stabilization is what I can consider the best a smartphone can have without the extra thickness. Maybe next year, we'll see a Exmor Rs sensor with this feature.
Posted by huiyi
On 2014-12-08 21:58:47, goldenface wrote:
On 2014-12-08 21:21:21, Velexas wrote:
My dream Z4 compact:
4.7 1080p IPS
SD810 8894
4GB RAM
32GB ROM + SD
IP68
21 MPX G Lens
Yup yup yup! Although I'd be happy with 3GB.
Posted by Tizzo
@huiyi
Does that mean the 6 month cycle is here to stay?