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Posted by drsoran2
I know, but it is outdated (no open headset jack, specs of Xperia Z) and has only 8GB of internal memory and the options to move apps to SD are very limited, even with root (Link2SD needs extra partition and is buggy and can't move all, foldermount doesn't even recognize all apps...)

But why don't they do it anymore or would they in the future?

Waterproof + microSD + removable battery + current state of technology with around 4.7" display would be perfect!


Posted by Felimenta97
To be honest, I wouldn't buy a waterproof phone with removable cover. I don't trust it enough for that. Not only, it allows you to have better designed phone, IMO, if you make it one piece.

Posted by drsoran2
I believe you would think differently about this when your Z1 battery is broken after 14 months and you have to back up everything, send it in for warranty repair, wait 14 days and then restore your backup instead of buying a new battery for a small price and change it within seconds.

The whole process of sending in is super annoying...

Besides, what shall I do in another 12-14 months if the battery is broken again and the warranty is over?

Also, there are waterproof and saltwater proof cameras for use in deep water with removable batteries. Would you trust them?

Posted by XperiaJunkie
The same could be said for Apple and HTC as they both offer high end products without a removable battery, yet have no resistance to water or dust and with the iPhone having only a 12 month warranty repairs get costly in next to no time at all. I really don't see it being much of an issue, I've had my Z1 since September last year and not had a single hiccup plus the majority of failed batteries that I've come across in almost 10 years of working in the mobile retail industry is minimal, it's generally a component of the phone itself that fails rather than the battery.
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Posted by drsoran2
I have my Z1 also since last September and didn't even charge it that often, about every 2 days, and the severe battery problems started in October. Then you are lucky with your phone.

It's a different story with HTC and Apple. You can change the battery yourself without worrying about waterproofing since these phones are not waterproof to begin with.

With Sony if you change the battery yourself within warranty because it is faster, then your warranty is void. If you change it yourself after the warranty in order to save costs, then you shouldn't trust that your phone is still waterproof since it wasn't done by professionals. You have to treat your waterproof phone as not waterproof anymore to be safe which defeats the whole purpose of owning a waterproof phone to begin with.

I've hardly ever heard of major defects with phones which you couldn't fix yourself. Broken displays are mostly own stupidity and broken cpu, RAM and mainboard are very rare.

Which leaves the battery as major cause of defects.


You can turn it as much as you want, but non removable batteries are only good for one party: the seller, which why I' wondering if there ever will be another waterproof Sony phone with removable battery.

Posted by itsjustJOH


Same size?

Is this the Xperia Z4 LCD Touch Digitizer?

Posted by XperiaJunkie
It looks like the panel from the Z2 but as the post makes out the front camera/proximity sensor are on the other side plus the notification light on the Z2 is inside the speaker rather than the top corner, also the cut out for the front camera is a tad larger (in comparison to the Sony logo), similar size to what is on the C3. Interesting to say the least and a good find.

EDIT - Looking at the images again I don't think the photo of both panels were taken at the same time so judging scale is that little bit more difficult so we could be looking at a larger screen but it is very hard to tell.
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Posted by ascariss
Assuming these are authentic, then perhaps the screen size will not grow as much? The bezels on the 2 panels look pretty identical, so either the screen is slightly bigger and it is hard to see here. It is hard to tell with these images, the slight differences in perspective will not help in sizing them up using photohshop.

I like that the speakers have moved up to the top and bottom again like in Z2 and the z3 tab compact. Would take a wild guess the design will not be radically different from what we have expected from Sony in the past 2 years.

I would have preferred the notification light to be in the speaker like the Z2 and Z1.

Posted by sighduck
Hello guys, long time no post. Has this been discussed in this thread?

http://www.sonyalpharumors.co[....]irst-active-pixel-sensor-apcs/

Revolutionary sensor by Sony, a world first "active pixel sensor" or APCS.

I post it here because there's an interesting tidbit at the end of the post where the author writes that she thinks it might show first in an Xperia Z4 phone. I think it's just a guess from her, but it would be pretty groundbreaking for Sony if they are able to do it. It would be great to separate the Z4 from its competitors.

Posted by hihihans
It was, a few pages back. Welcome back to the heart of rumour land.

Posted by Ebato

"Revolutionary sensor by Sony" that still produces inferior results than apple's 8mp garbage why? couz sony's trophy swedes that are still kicking around since SE days can't code shit, even in lagdroid.

Posted by milukugiuniu
Z4 screen will have 2 resolution, 2K for NA market and 1080 for the rest.
RAM: 4G
CPU:810 64 digits
The design is similiar to Z3 but the bazel will be different.

Z4, Z4C and Z4U will be available in the 1st half of 2015.


Posted by maloqs
@milukugiuniu
Interesting,how the other specs,like front and back camera,etc?

Posted by milukugiuniu
@malpqs

no idea.

Posted by kurtdean

On 2014-11-17 03:46:48, milukugiuniu wrote:
Z4 screen will have 2 resolution, 2K for NA market and 1080 for the rest.
RAM: 4G
CPU:810 64 digits
The design is similiar to Z3 but the bazel will be different.

Z4, Z4C and Z4U will be available in the 1st half of 2015.


Well, well, well huiyi said the same thing. This means Z4 will have two versions. I'm okay with 1080p as long as it have the same quality as the 1440p

Posted by zxcorr
Z4C is coming soon already? FML

Posted by itsjustJOH
@milukugiuniu Screen size?

Posted by vivftp
Ooh, good to hear about a Z4 U!

Just hope they don't gimp it with an inferior camera like the Z U.

Posted by milukugiuniu

On 2014-11-17 06:25:21, itsjustJOH wrote:
@milukugiuniu Screen size?



5.2

Posted by nodarsixar

On 2014-11-17 03:46:48, milukugiuniu wrote:
Z4 screen will have 2 resolution, 2K for NA market and 1080 for the rest.
RAM: 4G
CPU:810 64 digits
The design is similiar to Z3 but the bazel will be different.

Z4, Z4C and Z4U will be available in the 1st half of 2015.



Camera?
Battery?

Posted by hihihans
Camera? Battery?
I'm sure it'll have it



Posted by Xajel
So we're getting rid of ten models and come back with different SKU's

Is the reason lack of inventory of the 2K screens or just they want to cut cost for the international market...

I hope this does not mean the international version will have 16GB ROM or 3GB RAM...

I'm not sad that they went for 1080p as we can handle it hardly in 2015, but to the idea of different spec for different market.. I just hate that...

The only reason that I'm looking for 2K screen is because all other competitors will move ( or already moved ) to this.. so Z4 will look like outdated compared to the rest... there's a lot of people will say this has 2K screen and that doesn't even thought they don't know what does it mean... like some peoples seeing 1080p screen then laugh as non of these 1080p are retina


I hope Sony isn't doing this

Posted by nodarsixar
hm :D

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]-objects-can-we-say-Z4_id62929

Posted by XperiaJunkie
I still think the Z4 will have a larger screen for a world wide release. Those images of the two panels were taken at different times rather than side by side, for example the bezels look to be the same size which makes it look like they are the same but I've just done a similar thing with the original Z and the Z2 (the top and bottom bezels are almost the same) and if you take 2 photos at a similar angle as the photos they look the same size yet as we know they're not.

Xperia Z - 139 x 71 x 7.9 mm
Xperia Z2 - 146.8 x 73.3 x 8.2 mm

the difference between 5.2" and 5.5" is only 0.67 cm on the diagonal.

I can't post the pics I've taken due to some bugs still with the switch to france, but I will post as soon as I can just to show how deceptive those shots are.

However here is one image I found on Google that shows at a strange angle the Z and Z2 look the same size. and the image was taken at the same time unlike the photos of the Z3 vs Z4 panel.

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Posted by Detox
Wow, the whole line-up (minus Tablet Compact) gets renewed? CPU was expected, RAM was also kinda expected with older rumors pointing to it. Screen resolution, well, on the one hand I'm glad they don't participate in this stupid resolution race, on the other hand they give a competitive edge... Is the QHD version also going to have a 5.2" or rather a 5.5" screen? Because I don't know, if there are any 5.2" QHD screens in mass production. Nonetheless, I'm happy that they stick with 5.2" for the 1080p version, though I still would prefer 5". Well, you can't have it all !

Posted by itsjustJOH
Exmor RS™ IMX230

So this might be the 1/2.4" sensor ramu was talking about. This looks much more believable to be in the Z4 than the rumored APCS 1.5" sensor.


Posted by -XYZ
Dat 192 point on-sensor PDAF.


Posted by AbhiD999

On 2014-11-17 03:46:48, milukugiuniu wrote:
Z4 screen will have 2 resolution, 2K for NA market and 1080 for the rest.
RAM: 4G
CPU:810 64 digits
The design is similiar to Z3 but the bazel will be different.

Z4, Z4C and Z4U will be available in the 1st half of 2015.



What about battery ? Even a rough estimate would do

Posted by XperiaJunkie
Chances are the new sensor (if used in the Z4) won't include OIS and continue to use Sony's own Steadyshot tech which for me is good enough, however it may not go down to well in the reviews as it's almost certain the LG G4 and Samsung Galaxy S6 will have OIS, HTC are more than likely to be dropping the Ultra Pixel tech for a more conventional set up and the original M7 had OIS so chances are so will the M9.

Is OIS a must for people in a 2015 flagship, or would you be happy with software based stabilisation ?

Posted by kurtdean
Xperia Z3 steady shot is much better than any ois shit currently on the market

Posted by XperiaJunkie
@kurtdean I agree with you 100%. Wonder if the G3, Note 4 and iPhone 6+ users will agree.
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Posted by amirprog
^^ with OIS the benefit for sony would be for still, especially low light stills from what i can see. steadyshot is for video only.
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Posted by XperiaJunkie
Back in 2012 the Sony Xperia Z I believe was the first smartphone to use 1080p video with HDR, anyone know if 4K video with HDR is already available? if not then maybe another world 1st for Sony if the new sensor makes it's way into the Z4.

EDIT - the IMX214 sensor has that function, not sure if any phones that use that sensor actually support 4K video with HDR though.
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Posted by supercoolman

On 2014-11-17 07:59:09, Xajel wrote:
So we're getting rid of ten models and come back with different SKU's

Is the reason lack of inventory of the 2K screens or just they want to cut cost for the international market...

I hope this does not mean the international version will have 16GB ROM or 3GB RAM...

I'm not sad that they went for 1080p as we can handle it hardly in 2015, but to the idea of different spec for different market.. I just hate that...

The only reason that I'm looking for 2K screen is because all other competitors will move ( or already moved ) to this.. so Z4 will look like outdated compared to the rest... there's a lot of people will say this has 2K screen and that doesn't even thought they don't know what does it mean... like some peoples seeing 1080p screen then laugh as non of these 1080p are retina


I hope Sony isn't doing this




why don't you complain about US Verizon and T-Mobile's own version of XPERIA? besides, no one is stopping you from buying XPERIA with different specs

Posted by Xajel

On 2014-11-18 05:34:32, supercoolman wrote:
why don't you complain about US Verizon and T-Mobile's own version of XPERIA? besides, no one is stopping you from buying XPERIA with different specs


Because carriers now has the power to control what they want, if Sony was as powerful as Apple, then they will set their own spec for them.


@All,

Type C USB Port products started.. with Nokia N1: a 7.9" Android 5.0 tablet with Intel 64-bit processor, 2K display, 2GB RAM & 32GB ROM

http://n1.nokia.com/




Posted by ascariss
I'm still puzzled why Sony has decided to develop a smaller sensor, instead of keeping the current sensor and just adding phase detection to that. There will also be a 16MP version of the sensor, wonder if the lower megapixel count would be better for lower light and noise.

Would be nice to see this in the Z4, hopefully the camera team will also help out with the software.

I noticed this in the press release

This is the industry's first CMOS image sensor for smartphones to be equipped with an onboard image plane phase detection AF signal processing function to achieve excellent focus tracking of fast-moving subjects


Didn't the S5 camera have phase detection? Unless this is not a CMOS sensor?

Posted by XperiaJunkie
It's the world's first "stacked" sensor that has phase detection AF built into the circuitry of the sensor, from what I've been reading Samsung's Isocell is indeed a CMOS sensor but isn't stacked like Sony's and may use the CPU to help with the auto focus just like how Apple do with the iPhone 6.

http://appleinsider.com/artic[....]th-4k-video-phase-detection-af
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Posted by hihihans
Surprise!
Sony rumour thread 2015 will be here soon.
I am confident that itsjustJOH will do a great job.

Posted by rency0722
I knew it would be releasing the Z4 with Phase Detection Autofocus. Now, the only thing missing is Sony's Optical Steadyshot for mobile.

New topic: It seems Sony released a new headphone, the MDR-1ADAC. Tagged as the headphone with built-in USB DAC, this would be an additive to Sony's growing High Resolution Audio marketing on Xperia phones. It has a built-in S-Master HX Amplifier, so it means it can now be incorporated into other gadgets just like Xperia phones.

The challenge here for Sony is that, to introduce the microUSB port fully waterproof. With this, we can now use the USB port for listening Hi-Res Audio of up to 24-bit, which is also supported on the upcoming Android 5.0.

Posted by goldenface

On 2014-11-18 22:55:03, hihihans wrote:
Surprise!
Sony rumour thread 2015 will be here soon.
I am confident that itsjustJOH will do a great job.



Congrats and good luck itsjustJOH


On 2014-11-18 23:47:51, rency0722 wrote:
New topic: It seems Sony released a new headphone, the MDR-1ADAC. Tagged as the headphone with built-in USB DAC, this would be an additive to Sony's growing High Resolution Audio marketing on Xperia phones. It has a built-in S-Master HX Amplifier, so it means it can now be incorporated into other gadgets just like Xperia phones.

The challenge here for Sony is that, to introduce the microUSB port fully waterproof. With this, we can now use the USB port for listening Hi-Res Audio of up to 24-bit, which is also supported on the upcoming Android 5.0.


Yes I was just reading this on Qobuz. Nice to see them pushing Hi Res audio even more.
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Posted by Xajel

On 2014-11-18 23:47:51, rency0722 wrote:
New topic: It seems Sony released a new headphone, the MDR-1ADAC. Tagged as the headphone with built-in USB DAC, this would be an additive to Sony's growing High Resolution Audio marketing on Xperia phones. It has a built-in S-Master HX Amplifier, so it means it can now be incorporated into other gadgets just like Xperia phones.

The challenge here for Sony is that, to introduce the microUSB port fully waterproof. With this, we can now use the USB port for listening Hi-Res Audio of up to 24-bit, which is also supported on the upcoming Android 5.0.





That headphone, it uses the new USB Type-C port as well as the widely used microUSB port.. They mention that the microUSB is for PC & charge... wondering if Z4 will also use this Type-C...

and BTW, the latest rumours suggest that Z4 will have an exposed USB port with no flap.


EDIT:
in the detailed spec. page..
What's In The Box :
Carring Pouch
Headphone cable (1.2 m),Exclusive Lightning cable (1.2 m),Digital cable for Walkman® (1.2 m),Digital cable for Xperia (1.2 m)
USB Cable
Warranty Card


My guess about the weird cables...
Headphone cable : a standard 3.5 male audio cable in both ends.
Exclusive Lightning cable : Apple's Lightning on side ( for iDevice ) and Type-C on the other side ( for headphone )
Digital Cable for walkman : standard microUSB on one side ( for Walkman ) and Type-C on the other ( for headphone )
Digital Cable for Xperia : standard Type-C on both sides...

as why they will make two cables one for walkman and the other for Xperia... we know that current Walkmans only uses microUSB... and Sony will soon introduce new Xperia phones which might use the new Type-C
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Posted by ascariss
Xajel no Walkman has a standard microUSB except some older E series Walkmans but they were low end devices.

All current Walkmans have the WM-port to USB.



So unless Sony adds type C on future walkmans, there will always be a dedicated cable for the walkman.

I am contemplating whether to buy the MDR-1ADAC or something smaller, the new XBA-A2, which I would have to import. The larger headphones would be more expensive though.

Posted by supercoolman

On 2014-11-18 13:58:49, Xajel wrote:

On 2014-11-18 05:34:32, supercoolman wrote:
why don't you complain about US Verizon and T-Mobile's own version of XPERIA? besides, no one is stopping you from buying XPERIA with different specs


Because carriers now has the power to control what they want, if Sony was as powerful as Apple, then they will set their own spec for them.


@All,

Type C USB Port products started.. with Nokia N1: a 7.9" Android 5.0 tablet with Intel 64-bit processor, 2K display, 2GB RAM & 32GB ROM

http://n1.nokia.com/







your reply is contradicting your original post.

Posted by DexterMoser
I really hope for USB 3 or 3.1 Type C for the Xperia Z4.

We need some solid new rumors for the new thread!
Nodar bring it on!!!

Posted by nodarsixar
Front camera - 5MP

Posted by Zuckabaecka
The only thing I need in addition to Z3 is a better camera.
And the compact Version with a slightly better screen and better SAR-numbers.
Ohhh...and of course a UI-refresh.

Posted by XperiaJunkie
Although there is no doubt that is a Sony Xperia device I do doubt it's the new Ultra based on a few things I can see in the photo.

The side bezels are just too big for a flagship Sony. They trimmed the side bezels quiet a bit in 2014.

Either that blokes had is massive or that isn't a 5.9" display.

Rumours did say Sony will move away from port covers in next year's flagship products (one is clearly visible)

I think this maybe a large screen mid ranger but it is very hard to tell.



Posted by Xajel
I agree with @XperiaJunknie, this doesn't seems to be an Ultra... if it's Ultra, then that guy has a monster hand !!

Posted by huiyi

On 2014-11-20 09:45:43, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Although there is no doubt that is a Sony Xperia device I do doubt it's the new Ultra based on a few things I can see in the photo.

The side bezels are just too big for a flagship Sony. They trimmed the side bezels quiet a bit in 2014.

Either that blokes had is massive or that isn't a 5.9" display.

Rumours did say Sony will move away from port covers in next year's flagship products (one is clearly visible)

I think this maybe a large screen mid ranger but it is very hard to tell.

This is false without this cell phone plans! !



Posted by maloqs
Completely a hoax,it is t2 ultra.


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