Posted by JohnnyNr.5
Phablets are getting more popular each year. This time even Apple joint the phablet party and it seems that Googles next Nexus phone will also be a monster sized one (5,9") meaning that a high-end ZU successor could arrive sometime in H1 next year.
recap:
Rumored specs
6.14-inch Trimaster El OLED display, 2560 x 1152p resolution
4GB RAM
64-bit 2.86GHz Snapdragon 810 SOC
16GB storage
22MP Exmors RS sensor -> curved sensor with f/1.2 lens (SR4)
Sonyalpharumors also said the device is coming 2015 http://www.sonyalpharumors.co[....]e-new-rx-ff-on-market-in-2015/
The Z3X was also spotted on Antutu
The rumored dimensions 69.5 × 150.1 × 7.9mm sounds weird at first but makes kinda sense. Sony could finally introduce a phablet oriented UX making use of that gigantic (21:9?!) display, especially in landscape mode like Apple did with the Iphone 6 Plus and before that LG with the BL40.
[ This Message was edited by: JohnnyNr.5 on 2014-09-26 17:19 ]
Posted by miromiromi
if it's a phablet, it seems unlikely for sony to endow it with a powerful camera.
Posted by Wintermute
OMG, I would buy that Z3X in a HEARTBEAT.
Posted by motvikt
Again, z3x sound like complete bullshit to me (along with that stupid name). 21:9 display, come on guys, are you serious?
Posted by ascariss
On 2014-09-26 19:45:09, motvikt wrote:
Again, z3x sound like complete bullshit to me (along with that stupid name). 21:9 display, come on guys, are you serious?
Agreed, 21:9 will not happen lol, the antutu score shows 16:10 and no 21:9, so clearly not the sony device or the rumoured specs are wrong.
Whatever is being tested in the antutu, could be any prototype, even by qualcomm, it is dated from aug 15th from a google image search.
Posted by amirprog
I don't really believe the spec will exist aside of the display size, curved sensor and H1 2015. well, i would be really surprised. 6" sounds reasonable as it became the standard for phablet display size and they surely listen to the critisicm of z ultra being just too big for pockets, even in phablet standards. rest of the spec should be taken with a big grain of salt... 16:9 would be just fine. for start, give the next ultra 2 windows mode. think of making use of the big display in different ways. give it the new curve sensor along with the latest features and new features, don't do mistakes like shatter film, try to make the top and bottom bezel smaller, try to keep it relatively thin, give it qhd display while having at least the battery life of z3 - sony got really good with battery life, i'm sure they can do it, market it real good with ps4 remote play, etc.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-09-26 20:42 ]
Posted by goldenface
http://www.techtimes.com/arti[....]-proves-size-doesnt-matter.htm
"We are a latecomer to the smartphone market and have a lot of new technology bubbling up inside of the company," said Suzuki. "We want to show it off and use it to be more competitive. Every six months we find many, many areas where we can improve in both hardware and software, but it's only sustainable as long as we are growing in the premium product market."
So, with Sony Mobile playing catch up, may be it's not such a bad thing them having a six month flagship upgrade. As long as they have something new to bring to the table each time.
Posted by xperiazultra
On 2014-09-26 21:37:16, amirprog wrote:
I don't really believe the spec will exist aside of the display size, curved sensor and H1 2015. well, i would be really surprised. 6" sounds reasonable as it became the standard for phablet display size and they surely listen to the critisicm of z ultra being just too big for pockets, even in phablet standards. rest of the spec should be taken with a big grain of salt... 16:9 would be just fine. for start, give the next ultra 2 windows mode. think of making use of the big display in different ways. give it the new curve sensor along with the latest features and new features, don't do mistakes like shatter film, try to make the top and bottom bezel smaller, try to keep it relatively thin, give it qhd display while having at least the battery life of z3 - sony got really good with battery life, i'm sure they can do it, market it real good with ps4 remote play, etc.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-09-26 20:42 ]
Kaz, read this. By the way I will be ok with a humpback camera if the phone itself will be 6.5 mm thick.
Posted by xperiazultra
Eventhough some of you guys will be mad at me. I find the top and bottom bezels quite useful in landscape mode.
Posted by amirprog
@xperiazultra
Not mad at you at all.
i agree with you. next ultra with evolved z3 like design and for a change with metal instead of glass would be perfect, but with a 6" display device you got plenty of surface to work with so maybe they could make the top and bottom even smaller, not ultra small, just a little bit smaller, while keeping it relatively thin despite stereo speakers and camera sensor.either of these options would be an answer for people who look for more substantial change in the design.[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-09-27 11:59 ]
Posted by JohnnyNr.5
Sony plans to expand AOSP program further - Vanilla Android for Z3 and Z3C?
source is in german: https://translate.google.de/t[....]en-1409-109481.html&edit-text=
Posted by Tizzo
Android 5.0 L Update Plan Leak: Sony Xperia Z3, Z3 Compact, Z2 & More [Exclusive]
Read more: http://www.androidorigin.com/[....]d-l-update-leak/#ixzz3ElljmXFn
Posted by ascariss
On 2014-09-30 06:21:41, Tizzo wrote:
Android 5.0 L Update Plan Leak: Sony Xperia Z3, Z3 Compact, Z2 & More [Exclusive]
Read more: http://www.androidorigin.com/[....]d-l-update-leak/#ixzz3ElljmXFn
Hmm next march to april for the Z1? Might as well just get the Z4 then.
Posted by Felimenta97
As well as it can be, the L update will come too late. HTC promised up to 90 days from the L release for the M7 and M8 (and they do not do a half ass job).
They should also update the Z line (Z, ZL, ZR and Tablet Z). Give their first Z flagship a proper end. If what that leaker says is true, then Sony has no right to complain about people who complain about late software updates on their phones.
They had quite a lot of time already to have a pretty good kick start (design, app testing...). I mean, just buy a few Nexus 5, install The L Dev Preview and start working on it.
Posted by Hilmawan
"Mobile Imaging Sensor Web site" Renewal Release
For all those who are curious about the latest sony image sensor for mobile devices.
http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/IS/sensor1/index.html
Posted by makr
http://www.sonyalpharumors.co[....]lfie-camera-has-curved-sensor/
Sony confirmed that kw1 has curved sensor.
[ This Message was edited by: makr on 2014-10-01 16:25 ]
Posted by amirprog
Sony Xperia Z3X rumor – a powerful phone with a powerful camera:
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]with-a-powerful-camera_id61256
in short, the spec that is pretty much confirmed: s810, 4gb ram, 6.2" qhd. z3x must be a temporary prototype name. the retail name should be z4 ultra. pic is obviously fake. there is no new info of a curved sensor so phonearena title is a bit misleading but i suppose it's only a matter of time.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-10-01 18:46 ]
Posted by motvikt
Rumor:
Weird Facebook sites with zero credability--->nodarsixar--->esato--->phonearena--->esato
Posted by DexterMoser
On 2014-10-01 19:52:20, motvikt wrote:
Rumor:
Weird Facebook sites with zero credability--->nodarsixar--->esato--->phonearena--->esato
You forgot to mention that this weird Facebook site ( one of them at least) belongs to Nodarsixar
Posted by amirprog
^^ bottom line: some of the spec sound real and some not.
Posted by JohnnyNr.5
On 2014-10-01 19:52:20, motvikt wrote:
Rumor:
Weird Facebook sites with zero credability--->nodarsixar--->esato--->phonearena--->esato
I think this time it's my fault
On the last page I did a recap of Z3X rumors with pictures, benchmark and technical "Lekas" (digi-wo, Sony Alpha). Seem that some blogger thought it was the real McCoy.[ This Message was edited by: JohnnyNr.5 on 2014-10-01 20:33 ]
Posted by -XYZ
Its that stupid ass picture that makes it worse. I want to know, which idiot made it.
I know its obviously fake, but some people may well be mislead into believing that it may be what the device actually looks like.
Posted by itsjustJOH
Unfortunately, PA doesn't know nodarsixar.
Posted by supercoolman
On 2014-10-02 03:09:27, itsjustJOH wrote:
Unfortunately, PA doesn't know nodarsixar.
are you sure? who knows if anyone is here to create rumour for bloggers
Posted by ascariss
Until I see an actual device leak, I don't believe this phablet exists. Z4 for sure, Z4 tablet probably as well but a phablet who knows. The leaked supposed benchmark leak was just some random prototype and could have even been a Qualcomm device for all we know. I don't recall seeing a model number on the benchmark.
Posted by xperiazultra
I am pretty sure there will be a phablet at MWC 2015 by Sony. Specs I dunno.
Posted by miromiromi
https://translate.google.com/[....]antutu.html&edit-text=&act=url
even hi-tech mail is picking the story up.
i hope this has the effect of convincing sony to actually produce the device.
Posted by amirprog
^^ If sony have a brain they should read a few years ago that there is a market for phablets and that z4 ultra is a sure product scheduled for mwc announcement. it should be clear as the sky. otherwise, just leave the mobile industry.
Posted by xperiazultra
On 2014-10-02 10:36:34, amirprog wrote:
^^ If sony have a brain they should read a few years ago that there is a market for phablets and that z4 ultra is a sure product scheduled for mwc announcement. it should be clear as the sky. otherwise, just leave the mobile industry.
I totally agree. By the way Sony needs more practical developers for stock apps. Like lifelog and such. Next phablet must have superior software treats.
Posted by ascariss
There is no 100% certainty at this moment that a new phablet will arrive. Only rumours for now.
If Sony decides to make a new phablet and goes a similar route of super thin and too big, then it will fail again, no one needs a 6.4 inch phablet, 6 inches max is more than plenty enough. The only reason the ultra is selling better now is because it is not that expensive compared to other products, especially second hand. In poland, the cheapst I've seen it was around 1200pln or 287 euros, new. Not sure what it is used. But otherwise when it came out, the sales were not spectacular.
Sony cannot go for a super thin phablet again, it has to be thick enough to feature a flash and a very good to great camera, there is no ohh it's super thin, who cares.
the only reason the iphone 6 plus will sell is because it is an apple, not because it brings anything new to the table, because it does not.
At this moment, best to wait for android L and see what google brings to the table in regards to manual controls and camera api updates.
Posted by amirprog
^^ Sony needs a phablet, period. be it 6.2"-6", be it this design or that design. anything a little smaller then 6.4" would be a good start. they must prepare a phablet for mwc regardless of anything if they want to stay in the game.
Posted by tonif430
I agree a smaller version of Z Ultra is Needed
Posted by pmugghc
Is Sony back to its proprietary mentality? I know maybe just 1% of the customers unlock their bootloader, but that 1% are often the people influencing the other 99%. Dumb!
http://www.androidpolice.com/[....]era-performance-thanks-to-drm/
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2014-10-03 03:47:41, pmugghc wrote:
Is Sony back to its proprietary mentality? I know maybe just 1% of the customers unlock their bootloader, but that 1% are often the people influencing the other 99%. Dumb!
http://www.androidpolice.com/[....]era-performance-thanks-to-drm/
I wonder if their image algorithm is accessible without the DRM security. As if people actually likes their algorithm.
Posted by supercoolman
On 2014-10-03 03:47:41, pmugghc wrote:
Is Sony back to its proprietary mentality? I know maybe just 1% of the customers unlock their bootloader, but that 1% are often the people influencing the other 99%. Dumb!
http://www.androidpolice.com/[....]era-performance-thanks-to-drm/
I remember the previous Zs also had similar issue. they probably didn't bother to fix it.
Posted by Wishmaster89
There's nothing to fix. It's normal with proprietary solutions. Deal with it.
Posted by MNX1024
Agree with Wishmaster89 here. Image processing algorithm isn't easy and free to develop, regardless if the results are good or bad. Anyone know if rooting it will also cause the same effect?
Posted by Luca-S
On 2014-10-03 17:06:05, MNX1024 wrote:
Anyone know if rooting it will also cause the same effect?
No.
Posted by Gitaroo
whats the purpose for unlocking bootloader again? Sorry I have never unlock bootloader nor root any phones.
Posted by goldenface
Some apps let you take advantage of extra features if your device is rooted.
Posted by Felimenta97
Unlock bootloader =/= root
Unlock bootloader allows you to have access to every phone partition. You can change your kernel for one based on the Sony's, to use on stock ROMS, or install a different Android version (be it AOSP, CM, PARANOID, etc), or even a different OS altogether.
If things aren't secure, though, you just make your device a light house for people wanting your information.
Posted by testarlol
The internet just exploded with articles on the Z3X over the last few days for some reason, but there doesn't seem to be anything new on it as far as I've been able to tell. Anyone manage to find anything?
Posted by JohnnyNr.5
Those recent informations about Z3X are more than 2 month old and the only leak that is kinda trustworthy is coming from Sonyalpharumors saying that curved sensors are coming in H12015 along with Z3X which most like will turn into Z4 and/or Z4 Ultra. SD810 and QHD-Display along with new Android L Xperia UI is also said to arrive with Z4.
Posted by Gitaroo
only thing that is skeptical is the tri master OLED display. But I think some report says Sony plans are ready to mass produce large volume/ larger size tri master panels or something. The more of their own custom stuffs they used the better IMO, that will differentiate all the xperia line up from the others consider all the SoC are not pretty much the samething.
Posted by xperiazultra
Z4 ultra is coming gentlemen
Posted by ascariss
I don't think Sony has any medium oled panels and even if they did, no way any are at such a high resolution. JOLED won't have any products until 2-3 years from now. If this supposed device exists it will be shipping with LCD unless Sony will buy panels from Samsung.
Posted by Hilmawan
I think it is almost impossible Sony will buy panels from Samsung, because as far a i know Samsung Display division can only sell panels to their mobile division.
http://slumz.boxden.com/f244/[....]to-anyone-but-samsung-2095382/
The only solution is the Sony asked AUO to produce OLED displays using their super top emissions technology. Just like Sony's prototype 4K OLED TV.
http://www.auo.com/?sn=107&lang=en-US&c=9&n=1481
Posted by ascariss
On 2014-10-05 03:38:21, Hilmawan wrote:
I think it is almost impossible Sony will buy panels from Samsung, because as far a i know Samsung Display division can only sell panels to their mobile division.
http://slumz.boxden.com/f244/[....]to-anyone-but-samsung-2095382/
The only solution is the Sony asked AUO to produce OLED displays using their super top emissions technology. Just like Sony's prototype 4K OLED TV.
http://www.auo.com/?sn=107&lang=en-US&c=9&n=1481
The article is misleading, samsung is allowed to sell to other companies but no other companies are buying from them now. If Sony, HTC or LG wanted OLED screens from samsung, I am sure they would be able to buy them. But again they don't want to give money to samsung in the end. They are probably waiting for other firms to develop the OLED screens.
Dell is using the tab s screen in it's android tablet, the 2560x1600, the Dell Venue 8 7000.
As the CNET article states
http://www.cnet.com/news/sams[....]bsidiarys-mobile-display-tech/
Samsung's rivals aren't interested.
Posted by amirprog
^^ they won't pay samsung because:
1. ips lcd from jdi (that is part sony) and auo is as competitive, better in some aspects and still evolving as samoled.
2. they don't want the displays to look like galaxy device that is recognized with samsung.
3. they are not very impressed with how samoled displays look.
4. they rather not pay samsung for another internal. they already pay them for the memory chips.
ips is the only option for sony atm because jdi and auo don't yet have qhd oled ready for devices and qhd is a selling feature which sony can not ignore anymore. next z4 wave of devices need and most likely will have qhd ips...
sony's own oled sounds like false rumor because there are no news of sony developing oled displays for smartphones.
Posted by nodarsixar
I like LCD.......