Posted by XperiaJunkie
A few weeks ago GSMarena posted about a case on amazon.co.uk for the Xperia Z1s with the delivery date of the 26/11/2013 however I have just been to Amazon to check to see if the date has been updated and the delivery date is now the 14/12/2013. Roumor has it that the phone will be announced on the 26th and if the actual release date is the 14th then the Z1s has the same turn around time as the Z1 approx 3 weeks (in the UK) from annoucment to release could there be any truth in this only time will tell. Here is the link to Amazon if you want to take a look.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kolay[....]168&sr=8-1&keywords=xperia+z1s
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2013-11-19 11:55 ]
Posted by HxH
Relatively off topic but maybe interested by some of us...
wouldn't expect this but phonearena did clarify Optical Image Stabilization on Nexus 5
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]akes-for-video-capture_id49484
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further more research, discovered that HTC One and LG G2 are used only two-axis stabilizer.
only Nokia that came up with three-axis stabilizer solution and maybe in the same exclusive case for prior of time just like HAAC-Microphone that HTC One was violation in early batch of shipment.
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Posted by Xajel
Qualcomm unveils Snapdragon 805 processor
http://www.engadget.com/2013/[....]dragon-805-processor-ultra-HD/
Qualcomm said manufacturer sampling won't start until next year, meaning actual devices are still a ways off.
EDIT: From Qualcomm PR
The Snapdragon 805 processor is sampling now and expected to be available in commercial devices by the first half of 2014
Sony, I hope you're testing it now for 1H14 Xperia flagship
[ This Message was edited by: Xajel on 2013-11-20 15:01 ]
Posted by ascariss
if the Z1 successor comes with this new processor, I would imagine it would be released only once the chip is available to Sony, so can be as late as June.
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2013-11-18 10:12:00, argiriano wrote:
Well if it uses Z1f display (there`s no point not to) then it will be beautifull IPS display.
Just see those extreme viewing angles with no light leaks and color shifting at all.
How about the diagonal viewing angle of a phone? I'm no expert on mobile displays, but I've seen the Xperia P at angles from their screen's corner. Xperia P has very good horizontal and vertical viewing angles, but turn it from one of its corner and you'll see so much color degradation, like a LOT. It turns a bit more purple and white. My friend has the phone and I always notice that when I look at his phone on an angle. It's like those cheap displays but you'll only see the defect at its corner. Don't brand me a troll, I just notice this. I am not sure if it is a property of whatever screen display the Xperia P is using.
Sony needs a big turnaround for 2014 for their mobile phones, for every aspect of it.
Posted by amirprog
@itsjustJOH
I say sooner, "Z2" announced at MWC, to be released on April.
gsmarena: "Qualcomm is ready to mass produce the Snapdragon 805 chips and we should see them in commercial devices in the first half of next year (the first ones will probably debut at CES in January and MWC in February)."
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-11-20 22:22 ]
Posted by stais
New Z1s appearance.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]ows_up_on_postel-news-7227.php
Any thoughts on November 22nd being the date to wait for, as is speculated in the article?
Posted by my ninja
heh.. feels like an emergency stop gap. it will be in all the device successors that had the 800. its more of a radio coup than anything else. they (Q) are miles ahead in terms of radio integration, and visibility. im glad they announced something.. cuz the CPU is starting to get grey..
Posted by huiyi
http://www.digi-wo.com/thread-10982-1-1.html
[ This Message was edited by: huiyi on 2013-11-21 08:32 ]
Posted by XperiaJunkie
can anybody translate the text in the photos to english if possible please.
Posted by randomuser
Okay the only thing I understood is the price, which seems much lower than the Z1.
In China Z1 is about 800 dollars whereas the Z1F/s is gonna be 590$.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-11-21 09:13 ]
Posted by XperiaJunkie
^ so that works out at £366 here in the UK currently in my O2 store the HTC one mini is £479.99 and the Samsung S4 mini is £409.99 with these phones being the direct competition for the Z1s if Sony can get it to market asap and retail it around the £390 mark then I'm sure Sony will be onto a winner.
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2013-11-21 09:34 ]
Posted by maxtune123
On 2013-11-21 10:06:58, XperiaJunkie wrote:
can anybody translate the text in the photos to english if possible please.
First pic :
Same Big Eye
Same Sony Lens G
Second Pic:
A good phone is one that is able to grasp in 1 hand.
Third Pic:
SMALL, yet just as capable.
Rest assured, as it is not more than 3600RMB.
[ This Message was edited by: maxtune123 on 2013-11-21 10:06 ]
Posted by XperiaJunkie
^ Cheers for that
Posted by milukugiuniu
Z1 mini will be released in Japan at Christmas time. Other markets will get it in 1Q 2014.
Posted by sami92a
On 2013-11-21 15:56:00, milukugiuniu wrote:
Z1 mini will be released in Japan at Christmas time. Other markets will get it in 1Q 2014.
But Z1 mini is already Released in Japan lol
its called Z1F
Posted by DACHA
On 2013-11-21 16:53:15, sami92a wrote:
On 2013-11-21 15:56:00, milukugiuniu wrote:
Z1 mini will be released in Japan at Christmas time. Other markets will get it in 1Q 2014.
But Z1 mini is already Released in Japan lol
its called Z1F
I was told that the Z1 mini is not the same as Z1f. It has different specs but my source would not give me any info on specs.
Posted by sami92a
On 2013-11-21 17:32:28, DACHA wrote:
On 2013-11-21 16:53:15, sami92a wrote:
On 2013-11-21 15:56:00, milukugiuniu wrote:
Z1 mini will be released in Japan at Christmas time. Other markets will get it in 1Q 2014.
But Z1 mini is already Released in Japan lol
its called Z1F
I was told that the Z1 mini is not the same as Z1f. It has different specs but my source would not give me any info on specs.
I actually have a hard time believing that.. but i guess we´ll see soon
Posted by XperiaJunkie
Will be slightly gutted if the Z1s isn't here in the UK before Christmas I know it is unlikely but I want 2 of them for presents. C'mon Sony make it happen.
Posted by itsjustJOH
^But if it would come out on January with S805, that would be better.
Posted by Felimenta97
On 2013-11-21 18:27:41, itsjustJOH wrote:
^But if it would come out on January with S805, that would be better.
Competitors would have a hard job trying to beat that little monster's performance. S805 on a 720p screen?
Posted by -XYZ
On 2013-11-21 18:27:41, itsjustJOH wrote:
^But if it would come out on January with S805, that would be better.
That's extremely unlikely. In fact, almost impossible, unless its a completely new model based on the Z2
Posted by XperiaJunkie
Snapdragon 800 will be more than capable for what they would be used for such as a few apps to download, take the odd photo/video bit of Google search and browsing and using the Walkman player.
Posted by king-james
Who the hell need S805??? S800 is good enough till H2 2014... Hope Sony won't go for upper pixel screens. 1080p resolution displays are more than enough. You can not see any pixel. More resolution need more energy and bring bad result in benchmarks.
When I see notebooks with 14 - 17" has only 720p screens or big TVs with 60" and only 1080p, I thinking the mobile world is just crazy!!! Look what Apple does with it's iPhones, they even no HD screens but all happy.
Always the korean starts this shit, now they need curvy phones... What The Hell!!!! Who idiot wants this shit... How that feel in pocket.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-11-21 19:05 ]
Posted by kewsvnet
On 2013-11-21 17:32:28, DACHA wrote:
On 2013-11-21 16:53:15, sami92a wrote:
On 2013-11-21 15:56:00, milukugiuniu wrote:
Z1 mini will be released in Japan at Christmas time. Other markets will get it in 1Q 2014.
But Z1 mini is already Released in Japan lol
its called Z1F
I was told that the Z1 mini is not the same as Z1f. It has different specs but my source would not give me any info on specs.
Really hope its just a minor design change and not actually a downgrade of specs..would be a shame if they tease us with the perfect phone and give us something worse
Posted by Miki69
On 2013-11-21 20:04:05, king-james wrote:
When I see notebooks with 14 - 17" has only 720p screens or big TVs with 60" and only 1080p, I thinking the mobile world is just crazy!!! Look what Apple does with it's iPhones, they even no HD screens but all happy.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-11-21 19:05 ]
Fully agree with you!
Always the korean starts this shit, now they need curvy phones... What The Hell!!!! Who idiot wants this shit... How that feel in pocket.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-11-21 19:05 ]
We have a new say now: "Is that your PHONE or you're happy to see me?"
Cheers,
Miki
[ This Message was edited by: Miki69 on 2013-11-21 20:13 ]
Posted by moogoo
Always the korean starts this shit, now they need curvy phones... What The Hell!!!! Who idiot wants this shit... How that feel in pocket.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-11-21 19:05 ]
is that a smartphone curved to fit perfectly in your hand in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
edit: damn i just noticed miki said it first.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-11-21 20:25 ]
Posted by king-james
^^
something like this.
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2013-11-21 20:04:05, king-james wrote:
....
Always the korean starts this shit, now they need curvy phones... What The Hell!!!! Who idiot wants this shit... How that feel in pocket.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-11-21 19:05 ]
First off I don't think Korean cellphone companies "starts this shit" for everything we've seen.
Ericsson brought us the slimest, sleakest feature phone with global GSM roaming a first for both!
(this was before or maybe during Motorola's rennaisance heyday of slim clamshell phones)
- Ericsson did this with a true FLIP-phone, the T39m, and T28w (World) phones.
> Tri-band GSM became the standard, but it took 5yrs before any competition could last both 300hrs standby and 6hrs real-world standby time! (even when using greyscale the competition couldn't match these two measurements).
SonyEricsson brought the camera to a feature phone
- many in the industry thought this was ludricris, and for the quality intially they where right T68m (not the 'i' the "m" had the adapter first).
> Just 2.5yrs later the K750 and W800 debuted with picture quality aplomb!
Now begins the dawn of the Flexible Displays: both LG and Samsung.
- LG seems to be lost with top-to-bottom curves which only works with it against your hand or head, carrying it - which is STILL the majority of time we spend with our phones throughout any busines day, this is fruitless.
> Usage trends may soon, VERY soon, show this to be useful and more prevalent than in standby.
- Samsung sees to get it right with a side-to-side curve.
- Initial implementation seems like a pure freaking joke I completely agree, as many in the industry does as well (even diehard fans). But this is just an exercise in production yields, and quality for Samsung an excusable write-off of losses if sales are abismal, and quite frankly I see them expecting this - even in Korea (N/S).
> However it's the next Galaxy line using this edge to edge curved display that was shown off a few months ago.
>> Business users will LOVE this ... many times smartphones are left on tables - for rest, audio recording for minutes transcribing later or to show upper echelon colleagues their aware of the perception of etiquette goes a long way. The main difference in understanding their market here, is like Apple, Samsung executives USE their products (something Nokia executives rarely did or very basically and poorly understood how their products are fully utilized)! This means while recording in the above example I can not only see an LED or vibration indicator but an important message from a colleague streaming on the side of the phone facing ME ONLY that the presentation about to be shown was hacked with an image of a dog barking (Tron Legacy anyone
) or worse having the first slide of a nude photo of the boss' daughter - which you being the source of creating the presentation.
GO TEAM - that dude that messaged you 10 seconds before presentation; deserves that 30 days vacation, expenses paid and a raise and deposit on a new car/condo because now he has leverage over you
... just to keep him quite. All while your arse is saved and YOU got a huge 20% on $140'000 annual salary raise, new office, more social status and office political power and security of your new role! Win, Win, WIN!
You have to think about REAL world use cases when technology is just beginning to be implemented ... how it can help YOU and others, not just for technology sake. Samsung just got this the past 3yrs and it shows in their marketing, LG too actually - Apple where born to do this since 1984 ... but the fact is Samsung is more business savvy and has their hands in just about everything the future of smartphones and their users NEED & WANT even the competition and making hand over fist willing to sell to them.
Posted by supercoolman
On 2013-11-21 18:27:41, itsjustJOH wrote:
^But if it would come out on January with S805, that would be better.
just in time for Chinese new year?
Posted by stais
More from GSMArena on Z1S, claiming Q1 release and prices. (maybe this is more or less the same as was posted on last page)
http://www.gsmarena.com/new_s[....]014_launch_price-news-7235.php
Posted by Xajel
On 2013-11-21 20:04:05, king-james wrote:
When I see notebooks with 14 - 17" has only 720p screens or big TVs with 60" and only 1080p, I thinking the mobile world is just crazy!!! Look what Apple does with it's iPhones, they even no HD screens but all happy.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-11-21 19:05 ]
Some times, a specific market or users triggers the evolution of the rest...
See the PC market... gamers requested more performance and quality and the whole PC market evolve just for this... and now more than the PC
Mobile market is driving now the mobile computing, cloud computing and storage, battery and screen technology, camera sensors and more...
In terms of screen it's okay to go FHD as it's the perfect resolution the higher you go it will be expensive and power hungry and performance hungry too and the user won't notice anything... Apple see this as retina where the size of the pixel matches the size of the of single cells in the eye's retina... but we now know that human eyes can see smaller than this... and this is why 1080p screens look better and crispier than iPhone...
The larger the device.. more distance is needed... laptops are okay with 1080p and 2k or 4k... TV's now moving to 4k coz there's a different and the larger the screen.. the larger is the pixel even in a TV thats sets 3-4 meters away...
In smartphones I think moving beyond 1080p is harder coz the pixels are too small to be noticed unless the screen is larger than 5"... it's already small in 5" 1080p and very very hard to see individual pixels
Regarding iPhone users and their retina thing is okay... thats because they never complain about Apple products... but if they saw a newer Apple product then they will say wow this is good and new and wonderfull even thought it's in Android for months or years... these guys are basically brainwashed by Apple
Posted by my ninja
So sick and tied off ppl talking about seeing pixels.
It's about fidelity, more pixels higher fidelity. The pinnacle is not merely the inability to identify the individual pixels but the increase in fidelity it provides the human eye is extremely complex and can notice more than just the pixel size. Is such a tiresome thing to CONSTANTLY read.. Everywhere because of one narcissistic ceo.. There is a reason that billion dollar companies are going to sell higher resolution screens. If you honestly say the iPhone 4 (first 'retina' display) is better than the z1 then keep on drumming, but if there's a clear difference, then it's time to drop this tired ass argument. There's probably a point of diminishing returns, we're just not there yet.. If you're content though more power to you but just know that what you're proclaiming is hogwash.
Posted by Xajel
@my ninja,
If you read again, you'll see this is what I meant...
But I added that having more resolution isn't always good, the more resolution you have the harder for you to see the difference.. that's why I prefer 1080p over Retina... I know there's a science behind retina selection, but that science is theory, and theory can be wrong... and these 1080p panels proved that retina resolution was wrong...
I talked about seeing individual pixel not as a measurement, but as one of the standards that can make seeing the contents comfortable ( regardless of what the contents is )... small font size is just one example of this, having less resolution will make small fonts pixelated and harder to read...
but moving to higher and higher isn't good like the talking about 5.2/5.4" with 4K resolution... I feel 4K resolution is okay if we're talking about 10" and more... or at least 9" not lower as the benefit you will get will be very low compared to the problems with manufacturing, cost, power & performance
Posted by BenLing
Posted by aussiefella
red z1 is fake. it really says 4.2.2 but changed to 4.4.2, see the second 4 it looks weird. maybe there is a red version coming but I think it's fake.
BTW used z ultra today in brisbane, freaking awesome .want to get to it just to use as tablet.
sorry for off topic
Posted by sami92a
Wow it looks awesome and i want it! if it comes in red im going to buy it!,
Posted by motvikt
Lol that red version looks super fake
Posted by sami92a
On 2013-11-23 14:04:15, motvikt wrote:
Lol that red version looks super fake
in what way? except the 4.4.2 number
Posted by milukugiuniu
The red one is fake, confirmed.
Posted by moogoo
On 2013-11-23 16:52:14, sami92a wrote:
On 2013-11-23 14:04:15, motvikt wrote:
Lol that red version looks super fake
in what way? except the 4.4.2 number
this is funny. if you can accept that the 4.4.2 is fake, why would you give ANY credibility to the red Z1?
Posted by amirprog
milukugiuniu, can you confirm if the Z1 successor display is still 5.2" FHD IPS LCD? earlier "rumors" from september said IGZO - any ground to that?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-11-23 18:31 ]
Posted by sami92a
On 2013-11-23 19:27:31, moogoo wrote:
On 2013-11-23 16:52:14, sami92a wrote:
On 2013-11-23 14:04:15, motvikt wrote:
Lol that red version looks super fake
in what way? except the 4.4.2 number
this is funny. if you can accept that the 4.4.2 is fake, why would you give ANY credibility to the red Z1?
Why isnt it believable that Sony is going to release it in a fourth colour? its not the same thing as a fake Android number
Posted by mobisekim
[ This Message was edited by: mobisekim on 2013-11-23 23:01 ]
Posted by sami92a
On 2013-11-24 00:00:02, mobisekim wrote:
[ This Message was edited by: mobisekim on 2013-11-23 23:01 ]
looks wierd and fake... like a bad fake, look at the bottom and upper bezel, Sony Would NEVER make different sized bezels in one phone
Posted by -XYZ
Looks like a slightly modified White Xperia Z
Posted by itsjustJOH
This is what happens when Sony gets strict with leaks.
Posted by supercoolman
On 2013-11-24 04:01:38, itsjustJOH wrote:
This is what happens when Sony gets strict with leaks.
faking leaks everywhere?
Posted by mobisekim
this image is found in http://www.sonymobile.com/ru/software/phones/xperia-v/
Posted by nodarsixar
