Posted by DexterMoser
Yeah, 2K screen with S801 sucks imho. At least S805 and a bigger battery.
Posted by DyaRenz
On 2014-07-03 16:40:25, DexterMoser wrote:
Yeah, 2K screen with S801 sucks imho. At least S805 and a bigger battery.
Exactly!
What I want to say is all the past rumors weren't correct
Z3C Past rumors were disappointing ..... but if the 1080p and 4'6 screen is the right info
then 89% Z3 will pack s805 and 2K screen ... especially that Note 4 is for sure going to pack s805 and both devices will be announced at the same IFA
Posted by maloqs
Since the specs for Z3C and Z3 must be same and slightly different in terms of screen size ,battery capacity and design.I think Z3 may not have S805 SoC.
Posted by HxH
On 2014-07-03 16:13:54, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Personally I'm not a fan of 2K screens on small devices due to battery performance being affected. I tested the LG G3 in my store on full brightness with only a 1080p video on loop without any other apps running in the backrgound and the battery was down to 4% in just over 4 hours and 32 minutes. A Z2 however with the same 1080p video on loop lasted just shy of 7 and half hours again on full brightness with no other apps running in the background.
primary effect to determine battery life longevity is brightness, different devices has it own config value of it maximum brightness as well as different in technology structure or component inside.
actually hard to compare except you have proper tools to conduct such a test.
video playback is fine to do for initial comparison but don't take it seriously.
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2014-07-03 17:49 ]
Posted by XperiaJunkie
^ the LG G3 has a maximum brightness of 430 cd/m2 and the Xperia Z2 has a maximum brightness of 420 cd/m2 so not a big difference in overall brightness and definitely not enough to cause that much difference in playback time.
Posted by Ricky D
Difference in brightness isn't the issue, it's how the brightness is generated and what optimisation technologies are in place e.g. WhiteMagic.
Things like HW or SW video and audio decoding make a huge difference too as does general environment optimisations, whether or not the device is within it's first boot (and therefore caching a lot in the background), screen type, battery type and capacity amongst other variables.
As HxH was alluding to, to do a true test you need a test bench with all components, hw and sw, common except the screen. Then you should get a true result as to the power consumption comparison.
Posted by MNX1024
A little off topic. Look at what Sony is doing for the Tour
http://www.engadget.com/2014/07/03/sony-sheep-tour-de-france/
Anyone excited about this year's Tour de France?
Posted by qqqw
Can't wait for it to start. Rooting for Nibali!
Posted by hihihans
I do hope they keep the gate closed.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2014-07-03 19:55:19, MNX1024 wrote:
A little off topic. Look at what Sony is doing for the Tour
http://www.engadget.com/2014/07/03/sony-sheep-tour-de-france/
Anyone excited about this year's Tour de France?
So many jokes running through my mind about this....got.to.control.myself.
Will be interesting to see how it turns out.
Good luck Lance Armstro.....oh wait...nevermind.
Posted by owlsfan_72
On 2014-07-03 19:55:19, MNX1024 wrote:
A little off topic. Look at what Sony is doing for the Tour
http://www.engadget.com/2014/07/03/sony-sheep-tour-de-france/
Anyone excited about this year's Tour de France?
Aye, I'll be in Harrogate on Saturday, the Cote de Jenkin Road Sunday - then on to London, Lille and Ypres. Could say I'm a wee bit excited.
Posted by nodarsixar
Xperia Z3
Posted by kurtdean
^
Finally, something good for the first time that you post
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2014-07-04 15:04 ]
Posted by DexterMoser
^Don't be so mean!
I like Nodar!
Posted by Ebato
It looks like sony is not even trying with the h2 flagship. Samsung is lowering their estimates on sales due to iP6, I guess sony have just decided to sit it out, in the regular "nah, screw it" fashion. When you command less than 2% of the market, it's actually not such a bad move.
Posted by ZappyDen
Sorry for an off topic post
But Microsoft is collaborating with Canon
May be Sony should start thinking about this for its Xperia camera's
Posted by hihihans
Xperia Ixus. They better make it as good as they can. A name like that deserves ultra high quality.
Posted by amardeep
Going to need a Z-mini soon to join normal and "compact".
Posted by nodarsixar
Posted by vivftp
We can't see what you're trying to link to dude. I suggest re-hosting the image and then posting it, rather than hotlinking to their site.
Posted by nodarsixar
On 2014-07-05 22:25:20, vivftp wrote:
We can't see what you're trying to link to dude. I suggest re-hosting the image and then posting it, rather than hotlinking to their site.
http://www.digi-wo.com/thread-19435-1-1.html
Posted by vivftp
Hmm, if there's a picture in there, it seems you have to be a member of that forum to view it. The translation is a bit... interesting, lol
"We like Panda fuselage Z3, or white fuselage Z3? In fact, this time changing the Xperia Z3 also find many of the Sony security measures are better than ever, there is no exposed once and for all, I believe that when the conference is sure to make everyone shines. Because some of the new features. Secrecy about. Ha. ."
Posted by nodarsixar
aha :D
Posted by Ebato
Looks like my Z but uglier. I guess sony has made a full circle here
Posted by -XYZ
On 2014-07-05 22:58:19, Ebato wrote:
Looks like my Z but uglier. I guess sony has made a full circle here
Not sure how its "uglier"....
Well, I guess the white face isn't quite as good looking as having a white frame and fully black, seamless face. But it isn't at all ugly. Those more prominent cut-outs may in fact produce notably better audio than the Z2, which most people thought was slightly underwhelming.
Posted by Away
5 very good posts from nordarsixar in a row... Seems like if you don't give up, you succeed... Inspiring...
Am I the only one who likes the picture? I know I'm not the only one who has waited for a full white bezel on a white Xperia flagship...
Can't wait for IFA for the mini Sony tablet. And a Nvidia tablet with tegra k1 (preferably Denver) should be out before then too. Or both please.
Posted by Felimenta97
It wouldn't be se bad if it weren't for those speakers. I mean, they look good, "hidden" in the Z2, and it fits the device on the HTC M7/M8, but it looks kinda cheap, IMO, in that image.
Posted by supercoolman
nodar posts some good info recently because those info were sourced from the right places. unlike previous were from some unknown places
Posted by Shino03
Looks like an iphone
Posted by kurtdean
Something weird with the pic. Where's the volume rocker, camera shutter and power button? I think this is not fully assembled pic of z3.
Posted by smclion102
On 2014-07-06 03:24:34, Shino03 wrote:
Looks like an iphone
My thoughts exactly
Posted by ZappyDen
On 2014-07-06 08:57:24, smclion102 wrote:
On 2014-07-06 03:24:34, Shino03 wrote:
Looks like an iphone
My thoughts exactly
Even if u think this
Then just thanx to Sony
Because apple iphone design came from Sony's Protoype
And its apple who copied sony's design
So may be sony is coming up with that design in 2014
http://allthingsd.com/2012072[....]e-has-sony-style-says-samsung/
Posted by randomuser
@Zappy Den
Maybe you should read the news a little more. It was Apple's prototype and not Sony's. So no Apple did not copy Sony.
Jony = Jony Ive, VP, Apple Design Team
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-07-06 09:59 ]
Posted by amirprog
This z3 white version look better then z2 white version. yes, it reminds a bit of iphone but i don't really care because the side bezels are thinner then iphone 6, it looks better then it and it's only the front panel.
the speakers positioning is just different and actually in terms of design the position of them seem inevitable since over time sony will surely apply slightly bigger once that will produce fuller and louder sound so you need more space for that, maybe it is the case here. also, no one can think the device has one speaker as they are "in your face", plus, the speaker holes are smaller - better for waterproofing i guess.
it seems that i'm in a very small minority here.
Posted by ZappyDen
On 2014-07-06 10:46:43, randomuser wrote:
@Zappy Den
Maybe you should read the news a little more. It was Apple's prototype and not Sony's. So no Apple did not copy Sony.
Jony = Jony Ive, VP, Apple Design Team
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-07-06 09:59 ]
I dont know if i am wrong
But if i go through this article
Then may be i am little bit closer
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]ony-when-designing-the-iphone/
Really its so Confusing
[ This Message was edited by: ZappyDen on 2014-07-06 10:06 ]
Posted by Ebato
On 2014-07-06 10:46:43, randomuser wrote:
@Zappy Den
Maybe you should read the news a little more. It was Apple's prototype and not Sony's. So no Apple did not copy Sony.
Jony = Jony Ive, VP, Apple Design Team
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-07-06 09:59 ]
Not only that, Apple has a very consistent design language that people like, at least they are selling them in loads, anyway they have a premium feel and look with all the metal parts. Sony just can't understand that people like solid feels, even if it scratches more. Their laptops is another example. Sony VAIOs were going in the right direction with Pro13, but Sony's use of carbon was silly, it felt like shitty plastic, not solid at all (yes it was supposed to be less prone to braking with that flex, but still). I don't know why, but Sony never gets it. More metal, fast updates, less flagships, more advertising, more subsidized models on all carriers, a windows phone model just for the sake of being different from all those companies that make peanuts from android. And I mean all, but samsung. Duh Sony, is it that difficult?
Posted by Xajel
On 2014-07-06 11:02:40, ZappyDen wrote:
On 2014-07-06 10:46:43, randomuser wrote:
@Zappy Den
Maybe you should read the news a little more. It was Apple's prototype and not Sony's. So no Apple did not copy Sony.
Jony = Jony Ive, VP, Apple Design Team
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-07-06 09:59 ]
I dont know if i am wrong
But if i go through this article
Then may be i am little bit closer
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]ony-when-designing-the-iphone/
Really its so Confusing
[ This Message was edited by: ZappyDen on 2014-07-06 10:06 ]
It's not confusing...
Right after this article was circulated internally, Apple industrial designer Shin Nishibori was directed to prepare a “Sony-like” design for an Apple phone and then had CAD drawings and a three-dimensional model prepared. Confirming the origin of the design, these internal Apple CAD drawings prepared at Mr. Nishibori‘s direction even had the “Sony” name prominently emblazoned on the phone design, as the below images from Apple‘s internal documents show
That picture doesn't reflect any Sony device, it's a CAD drawing by Shin Nishibori ( Apple industrial designer ), he was directed to prepare a Sony-Like design for Apple phone... he did the design and he even put Sony name in the design...
The design is INSPIRED by Sony's design.. but it's not A Sony design...
So we can say that Samsung was inspired by Apple when they designed their phones
Posted by nodarsixar
digi-wo source is fake, sorry
Posted by amirprog
@nodarsixar
I thought i saw a new hope for your posts but i was wrong...
flashback... that so called "z3 metal frame" became t3 frame.
digi-wo is loosing credibility.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-07-06 11:59 ]
Posted by kurtdean
@nodar
If its fake, then there's still hope for sony to come up with an awesome design!
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2014-07-06 15:20 ]
Posted by nodarsixar
http://www.engadget.com/2014/[....]&utm_source=socialmedia_fb
Posted by itsjustJOH
Ha, I'm starting to think Sony does this intentionally.
Posted by Away
I KNOW they do this intentionally. The amount the Z was leaked, both in pictures and specs. Same with the Z2. Sony want revenge and are out to get it.
Good thing it's fake, if the design was supposed to be different and better, then going in the direction of the T2 wasn't the right idea, so good thing they're not (I hope ). An all-white front would still appeal to many though. And that speaker grill stuck out like a pimple, but I would have waited to see it in real life before judging, with Sony designs we have the right to be optimistic, with Samsung designs, we have the right to be pessimistic.
Nordoxisar, no third chances, you're fired.
Posted by Ricky D
I really like the current style of ear-piece and mic where it is an almost invisible slit across the top and bottom.
The design being thrown around looks like a genuine leak though, which makes me sad that they're getting rid of good design philosophy.
Also (and we've discussed this before) Sony for a long time haven't done coloured front glass on the flagship models, the second tier and alternatives get the coloured fronts. If they go with the white front glass I may have to go back to having a black phone.
I'm hoping the leaked front panel (and it was only the front panel NOT the assembled handset) is for a regional variant of the Z3.
I am interested to see what is so different about the newest design though. There's enough buzz to believe the design will change significantly. Saying that, yesterday is the first time I saw the Z2 in hand and it is significantly different in design to my Z. The aluminium side panels are beautiful and the whole thing has balance and poise.
nodarsixar, that last picture you posted the Sony logo isn't the right font, nor is it straight with the perspective of the handset. You need to brush up your photoshop skills.
Posted by kurtdean
^
its not from him. Its from someone at digi-wo
Posted by nodarsixar
On 2014-07-06 16:22:09, kurtdean wrote:
^
its not from him. Its from someone at digi-wo
++++++++++++++++++++++
Posted by supercoolman
On 2014-07-06 16:31:35, nodarsixar wrote:
On 2014-07-06 16:22:09, kurtdean wrote:
^
its not from him. Its from someone at digi-wo
++++++++++++++++++++++
Are you sure you want to tell the world that you are just copy and paste, not a real source?
Posted by jjjajjj
Will Sony get in trouble for naming their next flagship Z3 knowing that Blackberry just released a Z3 ?
Posted by vivftp
Heh, I don't see any issue with Sony naming it the Z3. I mean, it's not like BMW cares anyone is releasing a device called a Z3 when they have a car with the same name.
Anyways, Sony can show the natural naming progression in their devices from Z -> Z1 -> Z2 -> Z3... and they've been using the Z monicker on their devices far longer than Blackberry has.
Anyways, so where do we stand with all of these latest Z3 rumors? Are we just discounting the Digi Wo pics as fake, or everything including the leak pic of the Z3 and the Z3c?
We should only be 2 months away from the official announcement of these devices. While I likely won't opt to replace my Z Ultra with any of them, I'm still very excited to see what they've got up their sleeves. Plus I wanna know more about the new SmartWatch too damnit! Please Sony, don't cheap out - especially with big names like Apple planning to release their own variant around the same timeframe.
On the plus side though, I've been seeing a TON of SmartBand ads on Youtube and around the web... Sony finally promoting some of their mobile devices! About fracking time.
Posted by XperiaJunkie
Sony mobile in Tiawan to announce a new Xperia device on the 8th along with the Z2a? http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]rce=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2014-07-06 21:53 ]