Posted by vivftp
On 2014-06-30 23:39:45, milukugiuniu wrote:
The leaked pictures have nothing to do with Z3 and Z3c. The real devices are way better.
Ooh, now things are getting interesting
More info please!
Posted by jeff17
I dont have any doubt that Sony design team will deliver another beautiful device. Most Sony phones were labeled ugly based on the leaked pics but turned out to be beautiful.
Any leaks about hardware upgrade and improvements?
Posted by smclion102
On 2014-06-30 23:39:45, milukugiuniu wrote:
The photographer might be intende to make the pictures ugly for some reason.
The real devices are way better.
[ This Message was edited by: milukugiuniu on 2014-06-30 23:42 ]
We where expecting new design !!! we dont see that in those leaked pic thats why we are all crying here
Posted by DexterMoser
I'm not worried about the design at all, but I'm sincerely worried about specs
Posted by smclion102
On 2014-07-01 01:29:39, DexterMoser wrote:
I'm not worried about the design at all, but I'm sincerely worried about specs
Specs are confirmed nothing latest. Why aren't u worried about design aren't u bored of same old design.
Posted by DexterMoser
I think the design will be ok, that leak doesn't show much of the new design, considering most of the changes will be on the side and back. There's not so much to design on the front.
But same specs (S801 3GB RAM and so on) would be very boring.
Design is subjective, specs not.
Posted by vivftp
On 2014-06-30 23:39:45, milukugiuniu wrote:
The photographer might be intende to make the pictures ugly for some reason.
The real devices are way better.
[ This Message was edited by: milukugiuniu on 2014-06-30 23:42 ]
I just have to ask now since you updated your reply. Are these devices in any way representative of the Z3 or its mini variant? Or are they something else?
EDIT.
And for the hell of it, I did a comparison to the Z2, assuming both devices have the same screen size:
[ This Message was edited by: vivftp on 2014-07-01 02:06 ]
Posted by smclion102
I think its better if they dont give us a new design for Z3 as Z4 is goona have a huge upgrade it will be smart for sony to even upgrade Z4 design.I hope this is what sony is thinking.
Posted by amirprog
Different people have difference opinion in design but in terms of usability this design looks superior compared to g3 like design because of 2 things:
1. more comfortable grip in landscape mode.
2. the device will stay slim even if you apply front and back tempered glass and/or a case.
not one high end phone with all the bells and whistles and internals can have a design with both small top-bottom-side bezels and slimness. not possible. just look at the fully leaked iphone 6 design - it's bezel to display ratio is actually bigger then z3's: http://www.gsmarena.com/iphon[....]esign_rumor_says-news-8904.php and it's not likely to have z3 features that take internal space like stereo speakers, waterproofing, big battery, big camera sensor, etc.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-07-01 08:49 ]
Posted by nodarsixar
Sony Lytro camera
http://www.sonyalpharumors.co[....]n-a-lytro-alike-camera-patent/
Posted by drsoran2
Galaxy S5 Mini announced with IP67 but WITHOUT protective cover over the USB port!
I hope this feature, which has been available for a while in Japan, makes it way to more devices in Europe. I hope to see it starting with the Z3/Z3c.
Any rumours on that?
Posted by miromiromi
i'm not sure if i like that idea.
if we forget to remove water that may have remained within the concealed areas of the port, that will be a problem when we connect the device to our computers or worse, chargers.
it's ok for the headphone jack because it's easier to clean and the device attached to it is not connected to AC or a high voltage power source. it's a different case with USB ports.
Posted by gipsydanger
On 2014-07-01 15:12:08, drsoran2 wrote:
Galaxy S5 Mini announced with IP67 but WITHOUT protective cover over the USB port!
I hope this feature, which has been available for a while in Japan, makes it way to more devices in Europe. I hope to see it starting with the Z3/Z3c.
Any rumours on that?
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2014-07-01 17:25:49, gipsydanger wrote:
I don't understand, if USB port containt water and we connect usb cable to charger or Laptop, what will happen?
Posted by coolkid8689
@itsjusJOH
Posted by MNX1024
@itsjustJOH
Early July 4th celebration?
Posted by drsoran2
I think the picture is a representation of what might happen if you plug something into the still wet USB port.
It is actually an interesting question and I would just assume that the manufacturer has thought about that beforehand or there is a warning included, something like "Don't use the port within 30 minutes of contact with water"
Posted by amirprog
Improper use of the user is a bad excuse not to add waterproof usb or other x feature. i'm sure and hope it becomes a standard in sony's high end devices starting from z3 and z3c. less flaps = better.
Posted by vivftp
Hmm, so anyone speculating on whether the Z3 or its compact variant will have wireless charging?
Posted by nodarsixar
A friend told more Z3 mini info: msm8974ac pro S801 confirmed! 720p screen! phone on right (black one)
https://twitter.com/DooMLoRD_XDA
Posted by motvikt
xperia z3 compact looks amazing. It's hard to see how big the bezels are in that picture but I hope the overall size is similar to z1c
Posted by stook
Z3c should be xa 4.7" and same size as Z1c but thinner and front is not black on coloured versions
I will get more info end of this month
Posted by JohnnyNr.5
recent rumors regarding display size of z3 compact says 4.5"-4.6". But as long as it keeps its compact form factor I'm fine with 4.7"
A bigger replaceable battery and I would definitely consider it as my next device.
Posted by nodarsixar
https://www.facebook.com/page[....]467130721436?ref_type=bookmark
Posted by -XYZ
On 2014-07-02 00:13:43, JohnnyNr.5 wrote:
recent rumors regarding display size of z3 compact says 4.5"-4.6". But as long as it keeps its compact form factor I'm fine with 4.7"
A bigger replaceable battery and I would definitely consider it as my next device.
Replaceable battery is highly unlikely.
4.7 inch screen in the Z1c's body size would be outstanding though. If only the software was as good as that of a nexus device or the Moto X.
Software is the only area where Sony is lacking.
Updates to new android versions take far too long for such a supposedly "light" skin, which makes me think bk they make far too many changes under the hood, than is perhaps necessary.
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2014-07-01 18:51:48, MNX1024 wrote:
@itsjustJOH
Early July 4th celebration?
Still looking for a phone with a waterproof USB port to set off on the 4th.
On 2014-07-02 01:39:25, -XYZ wrote:
Software is the only area where Sony is lacking.
Updates to new android versions take far too long for such a supposedly "light" skin, which makes me think bk they make far too many changes under the hood, than is perhaps necessary.
Also the lack of support for devices older than the latest flagship. Seriously, the Xperia T, TX and V is still stuck on 4.3, while the older Samsung GS3 has been updated to 4.4 already. Not to mention that it's almost just as old as the Xperia S, though the use of an older chipset is to blame for why it's stuck on 4.1. Another example is my Xperia L still stuck on 4.2 while the lower-specced with the same chipset and just a few months newer God damn Xperia M got updated to 4.3 last April.
Posted by Felimenta97
Like I said, Sony needs to step up and update the Z line (Z, ZL, ZR and Tablet Z) to the Android L. And not do a shitty release, like the first JB update to the XS. Something well done. I mean, even Asus updated their Padfone 2 from 4.1.2 directly to 4.4.2.
There's a catch, though: The Padfone 2 was released in December 2012, and the latest update it had, was released in the same month (4.1.2 update).
And, the Nexus 4 will also have the Android L update, and it has basically the same specs (albeit the lower resolution), so there's no excuse for "Qualcomm didn't released drivers for this processor" like with the XS.
About the Galaxy S5 Mini and the USB thingy, in this aspect, Samsung always has the lead. They were the first to have an uncovered headphone jack (Galaxy S4 Active), and after almost 6 months later, Sony with the Z1. Now, (maybe) the same with with the Galaxy S5 Mini. Sony might release the Z3 with an uncovered USB port.
[ This Message was edited by: Felimenta97 on 2014-07-02 07:46 ]
Posted by amirprog
@Felimenta97
Samsung was not the first to announce wp hp jack and exposed wp usb. z ultra had already wp hp jack. it was announced at the same time of s4 active - june. sony already have wp usb device on the market announced in january, the smartband.
@vivftp
my speculations/expectations for z3 and z3c aside of the already rumored spec:
exposed wp usb 3.1 type c , wireless charging built in, two tone dual led, minimum 32gb storage, higher quality front facing camera, an option to enable both speakers for ringtones and notifications. anything else will be a surprise.
Posted by argiriano
On 2014-07-01 23:34:12, stook wrote:
Z3c should be xa 4.7" and same size as Z1c but thinner and front is not black on coloured versions
I will get more info end of this month
That would be great, but I think it`s almost impossible to fit 4.7" screen in 64mm wide body with IP rating... it may be 4.55" screen as of Xperia T. But if Sony manage to do this it will be one hell of the device. Definitely my next device! Can`t wait for more news...
Posted by Zuckabaecka
Anybody noticed that the big power button and other buttons are missing on the leaks.
So they are maybe integrated flat on the side or on the back (like LG G2/3)?
[ This Message was edited by: Zuckabaecka on 2014-07-02 08:57 ]
Posted by JohnnyNr.5
@Zuckabaecka
Those leaked pics were just showing the front panel of each device and not the fully assembled device.
Posted by Hilmawan
On 2014-07-02 08:45:12, Felimenta97 wrote:
About the Galaxy S5 Mini and the USB thingy, in this aspect, Samsung always has the lead. They were the first to have an uncovered headphone jack (Galaxy S4 Active), and after almost 6 months later, Sony with the Z1. Now, (maybe) the same with with the Galaxy S5 Mini. Sony might release the Z3 with an uncovered USB port.
[ This Message was edited by: Felimenta97 on 2014-07-02 07:46 ]
Samsung is not the first when it comes waterproof headphone jack and usb port its been a while in japan for example some kyocera phones has been using waterproof headphone jack and USB port even before Galaxy S4 Active and Sony smartband also using waterproof usb port.
For me i prefer waterproof port + flaps because it will make the phone looks seamlessly and prevent some dust collecting inside the port.
But i hope Sony would improve magnetic connector by adding more pins for data syncing.
Posted by JohnnyNr.5
doomlord via twitter:
"SneakPeak of Z3 mini/compact: D580x
4.5" scrn, S801 2.5 GHz, Adreno 330, 2GB RAM, 20.7 MP rear cam, 2.1 MP front cam"
https://twitter.com/DooMLoRD_XDA/status/484256965837611009
So "just" 2GB RAM and not 3GB. Hope it doesn't have a negative effect on future updates (like known from Sammy)
Posted by Felimenta97
On 2014-07-02 12:25:02, Hilmawan wrote:
On 2014-07-02 08:45:12, Felimenta97 wrote:
About the Galaxy S5 Mini and the USB thingy, in this aspect, Samsung always has the lead. They were the first to have an uncovered headphone jack (Galaxy S4 Active), and after almost 6 months later, Sony with the Z1. Now, (maybe) the same with with the Galaxy S5 Mini. Sony might release the Z3 with an uncovered USB port.
[ This Message was edited by: Felimenta97 on 2014-07-02 07:46 ]
Samsung is not the first when it comes waterproof headphone jack and usb port its been a while in japan for example some kyocera phones has been using waterproof headphone jack and USB port even before Galaxy S4 Active and Sony smartband also using waterproof usb port.
For me i prefer waterproof port + flaps because it will make the phone looks seamlessly and prevent some dust collecting inside the port.
But i hope Sony would improve magnetic connector by adding more pins for data syncing.
My post was kinda badly written. I meant to say they were the first to introduce in a mainstream (that isn't sold only in one place) phone, not the technology itself. My bad. But, still.
Posted by DexterMoser
On 2014-07-02 15:54:02, JohnnyNr.5 wrote:
doomlord via twitter:
"SneakPeak of Z3 mini/compact: D580x
4.5" scrn, S801 2.5 GHz, Adreno 330, 2GB RAM, 20.7 MP rear cam, 2.1 MP front cam"
https://twitter.com/DooMLoRD_XDA/status/484256965837611009
So "just" 2GB RAM and not 3GB. Hope it doesn't have a negative effect on future updates (like known from Sammy)
I expected a little bigger upgrade...
Posted by ZappyDen
On 2014-07-03 02:52:16, DexterMoser wrote:
On 2014-07-02 15:54:02, JohnnyNr.5 wrote:
doomlord via twitter:
"SneakPeak of Z3 mini/compact: D580x
4.5" scrn, S801 2.5 GHz, Adreno 330, 2GB RAM, 20.7 MP rear cam, 2.1 MP front cam"
https://twitter.com/DooMLoRD_XDA/status/484256965837611009
So "just" 2GB RAM and not 3GB. Hope it doesn't have a negative effect on future updates (like known from Sammy)
I expected a little bigger upgrade...
After all its better than Samsung'or Lg's or HTC's crap mini versions
Atleast sony puts Flagship specs on Mini as compared to Samsung crap etc...etc.etc
Not only specs
But also camera
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Posted by nodarsixar
this photo is a concept :D Xperia M2
Posted by huiyi
Z3 C Confirmation is 3G RAM 1080P 4.6“
Not what they say 720P 2G RAM 4.5! !
Posted by Wishmaster89
Now that would be true high end compact device!
Anything about Z3?
Posted by maloqs
JDI websites shows 4.7" inch display,logically how would it matches with the Z3C rumours?
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2014-07-03 12:09:53, huiyi wrote:
Z3 C Confirmation is 3G RAM 1080P 4.6“
Not what they say 720P 2G RAM 4.5! !
I trust huiyi more than anyone.
Posted by DexterMoser
On 2014-07-03 12:55:34, maloqs wrote:
JDI websites shows 4.7" inch display,logically how would it matches with the Z3C rumours?
There are various possible reasons for that.
4.6" is maybe without on screen buttons or the z3c display isn't from JDI or one of the sources is wrong. Decide yourself.
I trust huiyi, too. But only because IF he's wrong that would mean the Z3 Compact is dead on arrival...
Posted by DyaRenz
On 2014-07-03 12:09:53, huiyi wrote:
Z3 C Confirmation is 3G RAM 1080P 4.6“
Not what they say 720P 2G RAM 4.5! !
That hints to a 2K Display for Z3
unlike latest rumors that hinted at a 1080p
Posted by JohnnyNr.5
3GB RAM and 1080p display sounds nice, but you forget the main selling point of the Z Compact, its compact size! I don't believe that Sony will jump from 4,3" straight to 4,6" and make the device bigger. Keeping the size of Z1C, but fitting in a slightly bigger display sounds reasonable.
[ This Message was edited by: JohnnyNr.5 on 2014-07-03 13:46 ]
Posted by king-james
^
Why bigger? You can put a 4,6" display in the compact. There is a lot space...
Posted by amirprog
@JohnnyNr.5
A slightly bigger compact will not hurt sales at all like a bigger iphone won't hurt sales at all, plus, size is a relative thing and there is no true competitor for the compact. their true problem in increasing sales is non existing marketing, worldwide availability and carriers support.
@DexterMoser
i'm sure one of the sources is wrong. most likely 4.7"...
Posted by XperiaJunkie
On 2014-07-03 14:22:24, DyaRenz wrote:
On 2014-07-03 12:09:53, huiyi wrote:
Z3 C Confirmation is 3G RAM 1080P 4.6“
Not what they say 720P 2G RAM 4.5! !
That hints to a 2K Display for Z3
unlike latest rumors that hinted at a 1080p
http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2014/20140327.html
Posted by HxH
Adreno 330 is perfectly match with 1080p overall experience & performance, 2K will have too load on it hardware which would suffer in long run.
Posted by XperiaJunkie
Personally I'm not a fan of 2K screens on small devices due to battery performance being affected. I tested the LG G3 in my store on full brightness with only a 1080p video on loop without any other apps running in the backrgound and the battery was down to 4% in just over 4 hours and 32 minutes. A Z2 however with the same 1080p video on loop lasted just shy of 7 and half hours again on full brightness with no other apps running in the background.
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2014-07-03 15:14 ]