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Posted by -XYZ
C/D/E stand the year in which a phone is released.

C was 2013
D is 2014
E will most likely be 2015


Posted by RandomCarpet
Guys, don't want to create false rumors here, but devices with QHD screens might be coming to the Sony's lineup of Android devices really soon.

Just saw that in the latest version of the Xperia keyboard app that is redistributed via Google Play (released on 17th of June), they have added an icon graphic file created specifically for the QHD screen resolution.

This could mean nothing, but what's the point of doing it, if it's for nothing?
This might very well be a 7" or 10" tablet that they are going to introduce and not a phone of course

As some of you know, in my opinion QHD is worthless even for a 7" screen, but Sony, Samsung, LG, etc don't share my opinion
[ This Message was edited by: RandomCarpet on 2014-06-19 13:25 ]


Posted by XperiaJunkie
^ with the possibilty of a smaller Xperia tablet hitting the rumor mill JDI do have a 8.9-inch 2560 × 1600 WQXGA with 339ppi LTPS display at their disposal if Sony are planning to release such a device wonder what the chances it could have this display?

Posted by Away
Can anyone in the know comment on the above speculation?

Posted by Ricky D
Are there any rumors of a future waterproof Sony flagship with removable battery, like the Xperia V, Xperia ZR, Go, Active were?

If Samsung can do it with the S5, shouldn't that Sony give something to think about and bring it back or are they continuing the phone is broken after two years because of an old battery?


How else will they make you buy a new handset?

Hardware progress is slowing down, camera developments have stood still or gone backwards since android came along, design is getting pretty samey from EVER manufacturer due to the inflexibility of designing a large touch screen that's still pocketable.

For the first time in a long time I've not really felt the need to go upgrade for over a year and I might not until Q1 2015 depending on what comes 2H year.
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2014-06-19 15:18 ]


Posted by drsoran2
So basically you are saying that when Sony had waterproof phones with a removable battery they had them because it was useful for them and helped them to differentiate from others. Now they aren't doing it anymore because they don't need it and became greedier and people will buy their phones anyway and don't care?


But why is Samsung doing it? Because they are nicer?! Or did they realize that this could be a deciding factor in terms of longevity and increase their sales?

If this would be the case, wouldn't it make sense for Sony to reintroduce the removable battery and thus also strengthen their sales and be on par with Samsung?

I tend to use my phones for quite a while, longer than two years and I'm already worried about the battery life in 1-2 years. I won't change the battery myself because of the waterproofing, I'll need an expert for this.

If Samsung wouldn't be Samsung and I wouldn't hate their "design", the low RAM on the S5, the missing wireless charging and thus wear and tear and shortened phone life because of the USB cover and everything else they stand for, I would consider the phone just because it has a removable battery and Sony doesn't!

I'm happy with the Z1, especially since the 120fps and 4k mod. I don't wanna and I don't see the point of upgrading, if not for the battery life in the future... See, that's were they might catch me and that's why they are doing it and I hate that!

When my warranty draws to its close and my battery is weak, I may have to use it to get a new battery replaced for free and get at least another two years out of the phone.



Posted by ZappyDen

On 2014-06-19 12:41:03, Tsepz_GP wrote:

On 2014-06-19 11:59:22, Velexas wrote:
Amazon is marketing their Fire Phone's display as the "brightest ever". This is false, the brightest smartphone "ever" is the Xperia P. 590 nits vs 935 nits on the Xperia P.

A curious fact: the Xperia P was released in 2012.


False.

The brightest smartphone display is the Nokia 701, at 1000 nits, released in 2011:
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]of-sunlight-visibility_id21660
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2014-06-19 11:43 ]



False False and yeah False
Xperia P is the brightest and Beats 701


Source-Test Factory
http://www-static.se-mc.com/b[....]ghtest-screen-Xperia-p-eng.pdf
[ This Message was edited by: ZappyDen on 2014-06-19 20:56 ]


Posted by Velexas

On 2014-06-19 21:55:24, ZappyDen wrote:

On 2014-06-19 12:41:03, Tsepz_GP wrote:

On 2014-06-19 11:59:22, Velexas wrote:
Amazon is marketing their Fire Phone's display as the "brightest ever". This is false, the brightest smartphone "ever" is the Xperia P. 590 nits vs 935 nits on the Xperia P.

A curious fact: the Xperia P was released in 2012.


False.

The brightest smartphone display is the Nokia 701, at 1000 nits, released in 2011:
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]of-sunlight-visibility_id21660
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2014-06-19 11:43 ]



False False and yeah False
Xperia P is the brightest and Beats 701


Source-Test Factory
http://www-static.se-mc.com/b[....]ghtest-screen-Xperia-p-eng.pdf
[ This Message was edited by: ZappyDen on 2014-06-19 20:56 ]



Thank you

All this makes me wonder: when is that reported 5" full HD JDI WRGB screen launched on a Xperia? The Xperia P deserves a worthy successor!

Posted by miromiromi
more proof:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_p-review-767p2.php

Display test 50% brightness 100% brightness
Black, cd/m2 White, cd/m2 Contrast ratio Black, cd/m2 White, cd/m2 Contrast ratio
HTC Sensation XE 0.23 172 761 0.64 484 752
Nokia 701 0.64 619 964 1.12 1022 905
LG Prada 3.0 0.19 184 993 0.81 835 1031
Sony Xperia P 0.37 340 919 1.36 1050 775

Posted by Ricky D
@drsoran2

I was half joking. It is useful to them for a number of reasons, the forced expiry of a device's usefulness is a small part of it.

The rest is design reasons. To have a removable cover takes more space for clips, rubber sealing, somewhere that the user can get a fingernail under it etc. This doesn't fit the current design philosophies which only need a 0.2mm thick double sided sticky piece to seal the handset and the rest of the space can be for things like a bigger battery or a slimmer profile.

Another design reason is that batteries that are removable require more internal hardware in the way of sprung contacts, battery housing and something to separate it from the rest of the electronics so they aren't all exposed. A fixed battery and sealed case needs none of this and so can be thinner or have extra space for say a dedicated DSP chip or image processing chip.

It's not ALL about greed, that's just a happy side effect.
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2014-06-20 13:54 ]


Posted by nodarsixar
z3? .................





Posted by Tizzo
^no that's just a concept! http://www.androidjs.org/sony-xperia-z3-concept-teaser/

Posted by itsjustJOH


Posted by RandomCarpet

On 2014-06-19 21:29:35, drsoran2 wrote:
So basically you are saying that when Sony had waterproof phones with a removable battery they had them because it was useful for them and helped them to differentiate from others. Now they aren't doing it anymore because they don't need it and became greedier and people will buy their phones anyway and don't care?


But why is Samsung doing it? Because they are nicer?! Or did they realize that this could be a deciding factor in terms of longevity and increase their sales?

If this would be the case, wouldn't it make sense for Sony to reintroduce the removable battery and thus also strengthen their sales and be on par with Samsung?

I tend to use my phones for quite a while, longer than two years and I'm already worried about the battery life in 1-2 years. I won't change the battery myself because of the waterproofing, I'll need an expert for this.

If Samsung wouldn't be Samsung and I wouldn't hate their "design", the low RAM on the S5, the missing wireless charging and thus wear and tear and shortened phone life because of the USB cover and everything else they stand for, I would consider the phone just because it has a removable battery and Sony doesn't!

I'm happy with the Z1, especially since the 120fps and 4k mod. I don't wanna and I don't see the point of upgrading, if not for the battery life in the future... See, that's were they might catch me and that's why they are doing it and I hate that!

When my warranty draws to its close and my battery is weak, I may have to use it to get a new battery replaced for free and get at least another two years out of the phone.


I still have my Xperia X10 mini (with built-in battery), which I bought in July 2010. I have been using it with my secondary SIM card (as a second phone) for some time now and its battery is still going strong. It's hard to tell what percentage of the original capacity is still available, but the phone needs recharging once each 4-5 days - I use it only for some calls and very few text messages.

Samsung does not make phones with built-in batteries for two reasons:
1. Replaceable batteries and the devices using them are a tiny bit cheaper to produce.
2. When a built-in battery catches fire, the probability for damage to other components of the device is statistically a bit higher than when a replaceable battery catches fire. As you might have heard there were (isolated) reports of Galaxy S, S2 and S3 devices catching fire and even exploding, due to problems with their batteries.

Posted by drsoran2
The story of your x10 mini battery is actually quite encouraging for me. But I think it also depends on how you use your phone. If you use it often, you need to charge it more often too and thus the wear is higher.

I'm just not used to built in batteries, starting with my first cell phone in 2001 (Ericsson T65) up to the Galaxy S2 which I had before the XZ (was exchanged for Z1 because of lifting back cover), all of them had removable batteries.

Posted by XperiaJunkie
I know this isn't a rumour but it would be interesting to know how Sony, being a major partner are being advertised around the world during this year's FIFA World Cup. For example here in England they are advertising different Xperia Smartphone models (Mainly Z2 and Z1 Compact with a Smartband) during every advertising brake plus back in the TV studios there are two Xperia Z2 tablets (one black one white) blatantly on show. Are any other countries see the same level of advertising?
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2014-06-23 18:26 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP
They've been advertising the Z2 with Smartband mainly, now and then Z1 Compact, no other Sony phone, I've still seen more Galaxy S5 ads, it's like Nike vs Adidas, Adidas is the official sponsor, but Nike cash in quite a lot to by finding loopholes e.g. Not mentioning the WC. They also advertise some Sony 4K TV, but Samsung are pushing the Curved 4K TV and LG have some other 4K TV and both advertise during the ads in half time.

Posted by -XYZ
Fairly standard procedure when it comes to Advertising.
LG and Samsung just have more money, and as such they can dump more money into promoting hardware.
Lower margins on their TV's are covered up by smartphone sales, and they can effectively price Sony out of the market, even if objective quality isn't up to scratch.

This has been going on for ages, and is why the Bravia division are going to be/have been/should be spun off, as a subsidiary.

Posted by nodarsixar
Xperia Z2 Ultra?

http://www.digi-wo.com/thread-18862-1-1.html

Posted by -XYZ

On 2014-06-23 20:30:58, nodarsixar wrote:
Xperia Z2 Ultra?

http://www.digi-wo.com/thread-18862-1-1.html



Bro.....do you even try?

That looks like a bog standard Z-ultra to me. I mean its running the Xperia Jelly Bean Launcher for goodness' sake.

Posted by Ricky D
The picture is a stock Z Ultra but the detail describes what one would expect from a Z2 Ultra.

Nothing spctacular, nothing new.

Posted by rency0722
I think Sony would be bringing now the High Resolution Audio on the front of the next Xperia flagship, beside the Digital Noise Cancelation tech. With this, it will be a merely one step away of having S Master HX amp with DSEE tech.

A revamp with the front facing camera will also be introduced hopefully. Same 20.7 MP with better ISP and the introduction of OSS (Optical Steadyshot) will be also on the forefront (wished Sony would build a mobile phone camera with their amazing Balanced OSS from Handycams).

Posted by itsjustJOH
Oh, we can all just wish.

Posted by milukugiuniu
Just to make it clear that there won't be ZU successor, at least, in the near future.

Instead, there will be a small-sized tablet.


Posted by ascariss

On 2014-06-24 15:16:36, milukugiuniu wrote:
Just to make it clear that there won't be ZU successor, at least, in the near future.

Instead, there will be a small-sized tablet.



Any idea when this will debut or be unveiled? IFA? or later on?

Posted by saps

On 2014-06-24 15:16:36, milukugiuniu wrote:
Just to make it clear that there won't be ZU successor, at least, in the near future.

Instead, there will be a small-sized tablet.



Finally worth to make a comment. . .
I will buy it.
[ This Message was edited by: saps on 2014-06-25 01:26 ]



Posted by Gitaroo
it was also rumored that the mini tablet also take phone call irc.

Posted by XperiaJunkie
New Sony D5833 model spotted on Indonesian Postel site.

likely to be a mid-range device, hopefully a succesor to the SP its model number for the 4G european version was C5303

http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]esian-postel-site/#more-26336.

would love a spec sheet like this -
4.8" 720p Triluminos IPS display @ 306 PPI
SD 600 CPU @ 1.8GHZ with Adreno 320
1.5 GB of RAM
16GB memory with SD card support
13MP Exmor RS rear camera
2.2MP Exmor RS front camera
Android 4.4 KitKat
2800 MAH battery

Would be great if the signature illumation strip stays and they keep the dimentions smaller than the M2. Would be a great rival to the S5 Mini and the HTC One mini 2.
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2014-06-25 11:14 ]


Posted by amirprog
@XperiaJunkie
New mid range devices are generally not recommended because you can buy last year's flagships for half their price. for example, right now g2 and nexus 5 are really good offers for mid range prices. nexus 5 costs here the same as m2 and for g2 you pay just a little bit more and get a flagship of last year. until next year z1 compact will have a mid range price. tough competition for mid range devices.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-06-25 11:19 ]


Posted by itsjustJOH
Sony doesn't use 1.5 GB RAM, and everything below the flagships only have 1 GB RAM.

Posted by rency0722
Wsih Sony just once use the 20.7 MP sensor on a midrange.

Posted by HxH
Android L Preview is make me drooling right now
I hope Sony can do something amazing with this release
As they are few last company that still use standard UI design since 2.x day

And YES Android L is 64 bit!!


[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2014-06-25 17:50 ]


Posted by josephnero
@HxH
Yeah.im interested in battery saving and ART.also hope this routine allows faster updates.Can't wait to see Sony's 5.0 skin

Posted by itsjustJOH
Damn late for the stream, now they're talking about nerdy things I don't understand while the audience claps sarcastically. Gonna sleep now and wait for the details tomorrow.

Posted by Felimenta97
If Sony really want to remove that "Sony doesn't update their devices a lot" tag they have, they should update the first Z line to the L Release (Xperia Z, ZR, ZL and Tablet Z).

IMO, in terms of how you interact with your device (not the features themselves, but the interaction UI/user) L Release crushes every single UI out there into tiny little pieces (including Sony's).

Posted by josephnero
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]ceiving-certifications_id57528

Z3 certifications


What does capturing Raw sensor data mean here?
Advanced camera capabilities — A new camera API gives you new capabilities for image capture and processing. On supported devices, your app can capture uncompressed YUV capture at full 8 megapixel resolution at 30 FPS. The API also lets you capture raw sensor data and control parameters such as exposure time, ISO sensitivity, and frame duration, on a per-frame basis.

From google developer blog
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2014-06-25 22:22 ]


Posted by vivftp
Well it looks like Sony is getting further into bed with Google since it was announced that the 2015 Bravia TV lineup will feature Google TV. Sony seemed very prominently featured too since they're using Sony TVs to demo everything, and Sony was the one they mentioned first out of all the partners. I wonder if we'll be seeing more and more crossover products between the two companies.

Anyways, anyone want to guess what's going on with Sonys SmartWatches? There was no mention of Sony being a partner for Android Wear, and now we have Samsung, LG and Moto making their announcements and not a peep related to Sony. I have no doubt that Sony are making a smartwatch for this year, but anyone have any idea what features it might have, or know when it'll be announced? Going to guess IFA along with the Z3. Also, over on NeoGAF one of the users mentioned that Google had said there would be more smartwatches with round displays using Android Wear. Since we know Samsung and LG aren't doing that (at least for now), anyone want to venture a guess as to whether Sony may be doing it?

Now back to phones, just gotta voice my sadness once again at there being no Z Ultra successor Can't wait to see what the Z3 is all about, but probably going to wait for the Z4 before giving up my Ultra.

And finally, Sony hurry the frack up and build a PlayStation phone already! That is all

Posted by Felimenta97
Sony said, when Android Wear was announced that, for now, they will stick to the whatever-OS-the-SmartWatch 2-is-using which, IMO, is a shame, since Android Wear has a huge potential, against whatever-OS-the-SmartWatch-2-is-using.

I liked how they are one of the ones using Google TV. Hopefully, that Android Silver is true: Hardware from various companies, including Sony, with Nexus-like software. I simply loved what I saw today(yesterday?) and it has put Sony into the ground. That, plus the fact I'm most likely getting a DSLR until the end of the year, is a good thing for me to not mainly worry about camera.

Posted by vivftp
I'm going to guess the next smartwatch will have health/lifestyle related features built into it, like the core used in the Smartband.

I'm hoping Sony go all out and show their design prowess here though, since it'll obviously be compared to all of these other smart watches, and especially the iWatch since it'll probably be announced about the same time.

Posted by Ebato

On 2014-06-26 06:36:06, vivftp wrote:
Well it looks like Sony is getting further into bed with Google since it was announced that the 2015 Bravia TV lineup will feature Google TV.


I have 2014 W950B and it has android running on it already (going to support options brings up a standard android screen). I had 2013 W850A and it was all different. So it's already there, baked in. No wonder, LG has WebOS, and Samsung is heavily invested into SmartHub (will use Android sooner or later, or maybe Tizen). Sony had no choice but to go with android since their own offering in 2013 models and prior sucks. Not the best move because it will fail again, but hey, it's better than nothing. Trying to move away from lagdroid as far as possible, I guess my next TV will be samsung, too bad all their high-end 1080p models this year are curved

Posted by nodarsixar
Xperia Z3

5.2 inchi 2K screen
Snapdragon 805 , 3GB RAM
20.7MP camera'
Hi-Res Audio

http://mag.udn.com/mag/digita[....]UB_ID=6041&f_ART_ID=521431

Posted by -XYZ
Where do you get this from?

Posted by josephnero
http://www.androidpolice.com/[....]hotographers-everywhere-cheer/

as i mentioned before.
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2014-06-26 22:28 ]


Posted by sami92a
Talking about Updates... Sony has as the first OEM begun to Update to 4.4.4 ! Z1 Compact is the first one http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]ied-for-xperia-z1-and-z-ultra/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2796304
[ This Message was edited by: sami92a on 2014-06-27 00:48 ]


Posted by jonfensu
Could be D5833 the ZL2 Global version? I mean, It looks like a better phone han Z1C If we look the Model Number (D5503) but lower, of course ,than Z2 (D650x)

Posted by milukugiuniu
To clarify once again, Z3 will use 801 and 1080P screen.

Posted by itsjustJOH

On 2014-06-26 23:26:17, josephnero wrote:
http://www.androidpolice.com/[....]hotographers-everywhere-cheer/

as i mentioned before.
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2014-06-26 22:28 ]



Now OEMs should really improve their software (looking at you Sony), otherwise camera mods will make them look sh*t.

Posted by josephnero
@itsjustJOH
Yeah.i hope manufacturers don't block access to DNG capture so atleast we can use others camera apps

Posted by DexterMoser

On 2014-06-26 23:26:17, josephnero wrote:
http://www.androidpolice.com/[....]hotographers-everywhere-cheer/

as i mentioned before.
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2014-06-26 22:28 ]


That's great!

Posted by ascariss
the DNG support is welcome and I hope Sony implements it in the L update to the Z1, long shot but here is hoping.

What is the actual timeframe for the L update? September? October? Assuming the Z3 arrives at IFA, so early september and goes on sale mid to late september, what are the chances it will ship with the L update? or will Sony pull a z1 and release the Z3 with 4.4.4 and then update it to L a month or 2 later?


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