Posted by FMW300
I wonder if Sony will release any more GPE phones. Only Z ultra so far. We need more. I think this will enable them to sell more handsets.
Posted by DexterMoser
^Android Silver!
On 2014-06-03 17:38:58, Tsepz_GP wrote:
On 2014-06-03 17:22:47, MartenR wrote:
OT It's funny how S4 is outselling S5 in UK and how grey color of One sell better than Z2.
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/mobile_tracker/
The funniest is how the iPhone 5C is no.2 yet is still called a failure.
From an economic standpoint it isn't a failure. But from any other standpoint it is..
Posted by cu015170
On 2014-06-03 20:02:14, moogoo wrote:
it's frustrating as a sony fan to read all this tech news from big sites about intel's "paper thin" prototype tablet when the Z2 tablet is thinner by a whole millimeter, yet it's not even mentioned in the articles.
The US blogosphere is Apple/Google land with the occasional Microsoft showing here and there.. don't expect them to care about Sony.. if google made the Z2 tablet it will be all over the news, but since they didn't.. it doesn't matter. The ipad is the only tablet that matters in the US, at least for now.
As far as the Intel machine... its way more impressive than any of the mentioned tablets since it runs full fledged X86 Windows. Its a CORE chip @ 14nm , cool stuff. It almost makes me think that Sony sold the Vaio business a bit too early.. just imagine what they could do with tech like that.
Posted by Gitaroo
On 2014-06-04 02:44:33, cu015170 wrote:
On 2014-06-03 20:02:14, moogoo wrote:
it's frustrating as a sony fan to read all this tech news from big sites about intel's "paper thin" prototype tablet when the Z2 tablet is thinner by a whole millimeter, yet it's not even mentioned in the articles.
The US blogosphere is Apple/Google land with the occasional Microsoft showing here and there.. don't expect them to care about Sony.. if google made the Z2 tablet it will be all over the news, but since they didn't.. it doesn't matter. The ipad is the only tablet that matters in the US, at least for now.
As far as the Intel machine... its way more impressive than any of the mentioned tablets since it runs full fledged X86 Windows. Its a CORE chip @ 14nm , cool stuff. It almost makes me think that Sony sold the Vaio business a bit too early.. just imagine what they could do with tech like that.
its sad to see them selling the VIAO, especially after they release something like the tap 11, saw it at the store, was blown away by how thin that thing is and light it is, its has poor battery and no wacom pen is a bit of a let down, but like many Sony device, their 2 or 3rd tries usually improve significantly. But it doesn't matter anymore, even if they come up with something revolutionary or mind blowing, their PC line up are not going anywhere with the kind of marketing effort they putting in and there is really no reason to even be in windows pc market consider the tiny profit margin. People buy mac book for the apple brand, 9/10 of the pc buyers just walk out of the store with whatever cheapest pc they can find in the store, not many people pay for quality or design. This is very much the same with their TV.
Posted by king-james
Sony need a Z Ultra successor to compete with the competitors like the note 4 for example. Of course 6.5" was a bad and wrong decision, but 6" with smaller bezels would look way different...
I wouldn't give up the ultra series already... It's a mistake!
In my opinion they need a new Ultra more than another/next Z2 successor which isn't really a successor in my eyes...
Z3 comes to early if the rumors are true and I don't see what sense it make with same cpu again...
Z Ultra to Z2 Ultra makes much more sense! There are so many things you can fix now.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2014-06-04 11:59 ]
Posted by HxH
Z Ultra family apart from 6.4' statement thin design, it must have key standout features like Galaxy Note has S-Pen to draw customer's attention, it's actually work even though customer may not use digital pen that much.
Yes, maybe something to supports in enterprise level, but Sony need to figure that out.
.................................
New 7' Japan Display Full HD RGBW maximum 1000 nits
http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2014/20140603.html
If Sony to announce small size tablet, this should be great candidate.
Posted by Ranjith
Z2 compact and Ultra would be really great! Even i dont think the Ultra should be killed.
Posted by nodarsixar
I think sony should hold the realease of z3..... they are releasing flagship too fast....z3 should launch at starting of 2015 or end of 2014.... and it should have snapdragon 810, better and bigger camera,new design....
Posted by Ranjith
^^ 2015 would be idle. The Z2 is up there,better than or as good as the other flagships,no immediate upgrade is necessary to cover up the short comings like its predecessor. Unless other makers are going for an upgrade soon i dont think SONY needs to rush. They can release the Compact and Ultra in that time.
Posted by goldenface
Z2 Ultra would be a fantastic device if improved on it's strengths. Same size, put in a flash and lessen the bezels.
The thing is Sony has suffered from having a broad range of electronics products and not having the marketing bucks to support them, but it's Xperia devices are great but they also need some more marketing spend.
Samsung, for instance has one of the largest marketing budgets in the world (insane!).
http://www.businessinsider.co[....]msung-marketing-budget-2013-6.
No wonder it's as big as it is.
Posted by supercoolman
everyone seems to forget that Sony's new flagship every 6 months pipeline is mainly for japanese market? rest of the world just benefits from this. price drop, faster upgrades...etc
Posted by Gitaroo
Z ultra was all about great media play back experience on the go, but seriously lacking in camera department (on par with most tablets I guess). It's "use anything as a stylus" tech is a hard sell to anyone honestly. Even in the promo video, they show people putting a piece of paper on the screen to trace on the device. Who the hell is going to bring a piece of paper with them just for silly function like that the whole time. And they don't even have any decent software to back the hand writing solution to begin with. Need at least a quick note writing app when you can start scribbling on the screen instantly and have function to convert to proper text doc later. Overall using my Z ultra as a mini tablet is the best though, especially when it has a good landscape mode, and can fit 6 apps in a row, wish I can do that on phones. I think if they want to do another z ultra like flagship, they need to get rid of the silly touch screen tech, which is one of the reason why it got thick bezel to begin with, even just having a generic stylus would be more useful than anything. Improve speakers too and camera and especially mic/recording. I can imagine a lot of journalist can use it. They can go QHD and start introducing multi screen/ true multi task functions. Small apps was a great idea maybe 2 years ago, Sony need to step up their games and get more serious with their software, adding software features is much cheaper than hardware.
Posted by Wintermute
I get that the Z Ultra was a sales disappointment, but that was in 2013. In 2014, smartphone sizes are moving up all the time. The Galaxy S5 is 5.1," the Z2 and LG G2 are 5.2," and now with the G3, they're creeping up to 5.5." The Z Ultra is looking smaller with every passing month, and even though they may need to scrap it and rethink their approach, having a 4.3" smartphone, a 5.2" smartphone, and then a 10.1" tablet is leaving a pretty big hole in your lineup, in my opinion. There's a lot of demand between 5.2" and 10.1." I'm not necessarily set on any one size, but it seems to me like you need something there. Personally, if they reveal something like a 7" version of the Z2 tablet with telephony, I'll be all over it.
Posted by josephnero
http://www.androidpolice.com/[....]-coming-verizon-sometime-year/
Posted by MartenR
Is anything known about Z3's desgn apart from it's going to be different?
Posted by goldenface
I agree with Wintermute. Screen sizes are getting larger. However, the difference between a 6.5" and 5.5" screen is huge compared to a 5.5" and 4.5". Anything over 5.5" is massive in the pocket and the bezels need to be minimal over this size.
4.0", 5.5", 6.5", 8" and 10" devices are what I'd like to see.
I think, anything 6.0+" should be marketed primarily as a 'tab with phone function', rather than a smartphone. A lot of people are very easily put off by idea that something so large is meant to be lifted to the ear and spoken into (accessories not counting).
Posted by nodarsixar
Z3 compact rumour: Screen 4.6\" 720p, SD801, 3GB, slimmer bezels than Z3
https://twitter.com/DooMLoRD_XDA/status/473860046669893634
more rumours: 7-8'' Xperia tablet to replace Z Ultra line
https://twitter.com/DooMLoRD_XDA/status/473861121435115520
Posted by -XYZ
You're like a whole page late there....
Posted by Gitaroo
I guessing that the Z3 line still got water proof right?
Posted by nodarsixar
news H2
Pegasus= mini tablet
Leo = Z3
Aries = Z3f
It is not my fault, the three Japanese Site information
Posted by Gitaroo
can't wait for Kratos.
Posted by -XYZ
On 2014-06-05 04:29:30, Gitaroo wrote:
can't wait for Kratos.
God of War IV has no relevance to phones....
Posted by motvikt
On 2014-06-05 04:29:30, Gitaroo wrote:
can't wait for Kratos.
Posted by nodarsixar
What do you know Xperia Z2a's about?
Posted by bambarah
On 2014-06-05 01:54:31, nodarsixar wrote:
news H2
Pegasus= mini tablet
Leo = Z3
Aries = Z3f
It is not my fault, the three Japanese Site information
does that mean Z3 would be announced in August ? And Z3f in April 2015 ?
Posted by nodarsixar
On 2014-06-05 16:22:04, bambarah wrote:
<div class="pquote">
On 2014-06-05 01:54:31, nodarsixar wrote:
news H2
Pegasus= mini tablet
Leo = Z3
Aries = Z3f
It is not my fault, the three Japanese Site information
</div>
does that mean Z3 would be announced in August ? And Z3f in April 2015 ?
Z3 IFA's conference, and I do not know when it will be Z3f, Z3-with or CES conference in January
Posted by DexterMoser
On 2014-06-04 13:21:54, HxH wrote:
[...]
New 7' Japan Display Full HD RGBW maximum 1000 nits
[...]
I think I already asked the question, but has there been any RGBW / WhiteMagic Display in a mobile device since the Xperia P??
I would love to see them, nothing helps more against bright sunlight than a brighter display (I always put a matte screen protector on my phones so the glossy screen doesn't matter).
Posted by Detox
@DexterMoser: Nope, it remains the only one to have used it.
Posted by Wintermute
Has there been any word on whether Sony plans to use any of the JDI OLED displays in any Xperia devices?
Posted by amirprog
It seems that almost no manufacturer care about oled panels and none of them care about whitemagic, at least for the near future, probably because of higher costs and low manufacturing yield and on top of that the market is shifting to qhd. that jdi panel is "only" fhd. sony's future high end phones after the z3 wave of devices are certainly going to carry qhd ips...
Posted by josephnero
@DexterMoser
Some japanese phones used them
here is a FHD one for example
http://www.datacider.com/58349.php
There one is also using Sony 20.7 MP Exmor RS sensor i mistakingly deleted the link to that
http://www.datacider.com/58437.php
here it is
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2014-06-06 22:22 ]
Posted by rss_ndrsn
I hope Z3 has that White Magic Display. Imagine that screen with Sony new anti-glare glass, it would surely make people forget about 2K screen. Also, Sony should bundle the phone with the noise-cancelling headset to even attract consumers.
Posted by randomuser
There is no anti glare or sunlight visible screen tech on Z3 AFAIK. Just a similar quality display as Z2.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
^Lol. I dont know what to say. how Sony is gonna compete with the rest??
Posted by randomuser
They will compete in 2015 with Z4
Posted by Wintermute
Come on 2015, hurry up and get here already!!!
Posted by Felimenta97
On 2014-06-07 07:11:12, randomuser wrote:
They will compete in 2015 with Z4
Aaaand we've been hearing that since 2011 with how the XS will "compete and beat the sh*t out the other companies's devices...
Posted by DexterMoser
On 2014-06-06 19:30:15, Detox wrote:
@DexterMoser: Nope, it remains the only one to have used it.
Kind of sad, would love to seem a White Magic Display in a flagship smartphone nowadays.
On 2014-06-06 22:39:08, josephnero wrote:
@DexterMoser
Some japanese phones used them
here is a FHD one for example
http://www.datacider.com/58349.php
There one is also using Sony 20.7 MP Exmor RS sensor i mistakingly deleted the link to that
http://www.datacider.com/58437.php
here it is
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2014-06-06 22:22 ]
I'm no racist, BUT YOU DAMN JAPANESE PEOPLE! WTF?!
5" FHD, WhiteMagic 1000 candela, 3200mAh, Fingerprint scanner, IPX5/8 AND the 20.7 MP Exmor RS 1/2.3" sensor.
Some english press release:
http://www.fujitsu.com/global[....]ess-releases/2014/0526-01.html
I did not know that other manufacturers could now buy the 20,7 MP sensor, I thought it was exclusive to Sony. Interesting!!
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2014-06-07 13:45 ]
Posted by randomuser
And no doubt those phones will significantly outperform Xperia Z2 image quality wise
Posted by josephnero
@DexterMoser
I'm no japanese bro.lol
murica
btw just joking i know you re not addresseing me
3200mah and whitemagic/damn that thing will last more than 10 hours of screen on time
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2014-06-07 15:04 ]
Posted by king-james
On 2014-06-07 14:07:36, Felimenta97 wrote:
On 2014-06-07 07:11:12, randomuser wrote:
They will compete in 2015 with Z4
Aaaand we've been hearing that since 2011 with how the XS will "compete and beat the sh*t out the other companies's devices...
Indeed Feli97! They just talking bullshit! Sony never can compete with competitors...
After 3 days I have given my Z2 back again. Display still behind competion, too dark, not nice colours, still no gorilla glass!!!... Camera just average, 8MP mode good, upper shit. Build Quality in the frames very bad hard plastic and gaps open. Doesnt feel like really premium device. The only thing what I liked was the new headset and its sound.
Had so many devices and I could and did easy compare it. I can say Sony is No.1 in UI design and all, but they need add new functions. It's too naked! Sony should stop release every half year a not true flaggshipp. They must really change things, not only small updates. They are too similar... Z/ZL > Z1 > Z2 > Z3 with same CPU????? HOLYSHIT
My devices last couple months: Z Ultra, G Flex, G2, Note 3, Moto G and some others... I prefer them all instead Z2.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2014-06-07 15:33 ]
Posted by AbhiD999
On 2014-06-07 16:29:40, king-james wrote:
On 2014-06-07 14:07:36, Felimenta97 wrote:
On 2014-06-07 07:11:12, randomuser wrote:
They will compete in 2015 with Z4
Aaaand we've been hearing that since 2011 with how the XS will "compete and beat the sh*t out the other companies's devices...
Indeed Feli97! They just talking bullshit! Sony never can compete with competitors...
After 3 days I have given my Z2 back again. Display still behind competion, too dark, not nice colours, still no gorilla glass!!!... Camera just average, 8MP mode good, upper shit. Build Quality in the frames very bad hard plastic and gaps open. Doesnt feel like really premium device. The only thing what I liked was the new headset and its sound.
Had so many devices and I could and did easy compare it. I can say Sony is No.1 in UI design and all, but they need add new functions. It's too naked! Sony should stop release every half year a not true flaggshipp. They must really change things, not only small updates. They are too similar... Z/ZL > Z1 > Z2 > Z3 with same CPU????? HOLYSHIT
My devices last couple months: Z Ultra, G Flex, G2, Note 3, Moto G and some others... I prefer them all instead Z2.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2014-06-07 15:33 ]
Huh! LOOK who iz Ranting
Maybe Never owned a Sony XPERIA in Entire life!
Posted by randomuser
^
He has owned almost every Xperia flagship released.
Posted by AbhiD999
On 2014-06-07 16:38:45, randomuser wrote:
^
He has owned almost every Xperia flagship released.
Quite obvious as HE likes the built quality of $am$hit and Lg and hates Sony's!
IRONY
Posted by Tizzo
Anyone know if Sony has any announcements planned for mobile Asia expo next week?
Last year they announced the Xperia z ultra and the smart watch 2 at this event.
Posted by ascariss
Would be pretty hilarious if the picture quality from the fujitsu was better than the Z2, would finally show that Sony is too lazy to release good camera firmware.
Posted by -XYZ
Yeah, I'm intend to wait for actual information, rather than running away with nothing more than rumours at this point.
Complaining about SoC's? Blame Qualcomm. Like I said, Apple caught them with their pants down. SD805 doesn't have a dedicated baseband built into the chipset. That is NOT good for battery performance. Its probably best to wait till SD810 comes out.
Even then, I'm not particularly enthralled by its stupid octa-core BIG.little setup. Apple f**ked Qualcomm so hard, that they haven't even had the chance to create their own ARM v8 based 64-bit chips, instead using Cortex A5x cores instead. Ridiculous.
Display? 490-510 nits is not exactly dim is it? Well whatever, I guess this is a sujective issue. I have no problem reading my Z1 compact's display in direct sunlight with auto-brightness on (and the bar pushed all the way to minimum). I guess there is a variation in the displays each individuals get.
I mean, why else would Anandtech's iPhone 5s have a considerably worse calibrated display than their iPhone 5c. Well whatever.
And build quality...well.
There are no arguments here. Aside from Apple and HTC, Sony's build quality is untouched.
King-James...you talk about plastic, but isn't the Z2 Aluminium uni-body with two glass panels? Where's the plastic?
Unless you got a Chinese Z2, which is uni-body polycarbonate.
Anyway.
We tend to take too much stock in rumours. Aside from the high possibility that the Z3 will have a SD801 (which IMO, is good, until MSM8994 hits the market), we have no idea about what the device will look or feel like.
As for the camera sensor. Sony probably have a newly designed, higher performance CMOS for their next set of flagship phones.
Posted by josephnero
Flame,dear flame
@XYZ
According to phone arena my galaxy S4 has 245nits so 475 of Z2 is a blessing for me.
offtopic according to gsmarena G3s screen has very poor contrast around 700 .Resolution alone isn't everything atleast for me hope sony comes out with an awesome 1080 display
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2014-06-07 17:18 ]
Posted by vikeviki
I agree with king James,sony dont want to screw all there other business entity,,,so just be calm abhi,what he says is real truth.
I too had lot of hopes,saving all your money and just be a nice monkey,if u know value of money...
I guess Sony are inn transition mode,lets wait for 1 or 2 years,may be we get a potent new device worth for our pocket
Note: I like king James because he says the fuc*8 truth.
[ This Message was edited by: vikeviki on 2014-06-07 19:25 ]
Posted by -XYZ
He's also incredibly hyperbolic.
Just like a lot of you here, it would seem.