Posted by randomuser
On 2014-06-01 10:29:36, Ebato wrote:
On 2014-05-31 08:34:47, randomuser wrote:
Also Z3 remains the only high end offering from Sony left for this year. No other high end devices.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-05-31 07:37 ]
What about that rumored WP8.1 phone in July, does it count?
AFAIK there was no high end WP8 device planned by Sony Mobile. There were some ODM devices that were to run WP8.1 but I have no updates on their progress at this stage.
Posted by nodarsixar
randomuser
Which processor will xperia z3 and the major updates to the camera?
Posted by randomuser
On 2014-06-01 13:10:48, nodarsixar wrote:
randomuser
Which processor will xperia z3 and the major updates to the camera?
No camera update
Z3 S801 2.5ghz
Posted by nodarsixar
On 2014-06-01 13:14:08, randomuser wrote:
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On 2014-06-01 13:10:48, nodarsixar wrote:
randomuser
Which processor will xperia z3 and the major updates to the camera?
</div>
No camera update
Z3 S801 2.5ghz
Why 801 and not 805? Or even when it will be announced? 2015 will be a significant upgrade?
Posted by randomuser
At IFA, as already known
2015 S810
Posted by nodarsixar
On 2014-06-01 13:36:00, randomuser wrote:
At IFA, as already known :P
2015 S810
Well, it is clear there will be no difference between the processors, then it is logical that there would be Xperia Z3 Compact and when will the next version of the Xperia Z Ultra? Xperia Z4 and comes with a compact Xperia Z4?
Posted by kurtdean
@random
Huiyi said it comes with snapdragon 805 and I think he said there will be z3 compact and z3 ultra and doomlord also said the same thing. Correct me if I'm wrong
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2014-06-01 15:34 ]
Posted by motvikt
The problem with snapdragon 805 is that it lacks a cellular modem which makes it more expensive, bigger and draws more power. I still think Sony must use it the next flagship to be competitive though as everyone wants the latest soc available no matter how good or bad it is
Posted by HxH
FYI, SD805 will companion with latest 20nm modem chip, but yes it will require PCB re-design to fit a discrete baseband chip due to lack of cellular integrated unlike SD800/801.
Personal remarks, I strongly agree if Sony decided to stick with SD801 for Z3 (same when they once skipped SD600 in first Z's day). It will help and reduce cost in aspect of software maintenance team and support, anyway it will be another big and bold bet which could affect total sales target as well.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
@randomuser So Z3 camera's optics and sensor are the same? So it wont have support for raw mode? This is actually what I was most excited on. SD 801 is ok for me but what will be the selling point of Z2 then?
Posted by Felimenta97
Z3 will probably be a reversed Arc S.
Arc to Arc S was basically a processor bump. Z3 will be a bump on some things here and there, but most things will stay the same. Tbh, if they aren't going to improve the camera and the processor, they should just release something for Japan and leave the rest for the Z4 already.
Posted by milukugiuniu
On 2014-06-01 10:29:36, Ebato wrote:
On 2014-05-31 08:34:47, randomuser wrote:
Also Z3 remains the only high end offering from Sony left for this year. No other high end devices.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-05-31 07:37 ]
What about that rumored WP8.1 phone in July, does it count?
Cancled, AFAIK.
Posted by randomuser
On 2014-06-01 19:57:53, rss_ndrsn wrote:
@randomuser So Z3 camera's optics and sensor are the same? So it wont have support for raw mode? This is actually what I was most excited on. SD 801 is ok for me but what will be the selling point of Z2 then?
Optics same but newer sensor - 1/2.4". Slightly smaller than Z2 sensor. But still performance should be same.
No raw mode though.
Main selling point for Z3 will be its design and sleekness.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
^why there is no raw mode for the new sensor? The mid-end sensors from Sony have raw mode. That is kinda weird.
Correct me if I am wrong but doesnt raw mode help produce better pics when oversampling is applied? So when a user takes photo using superior-auto, the photos would look better cause of less processing.
Posted by jonfensu
^ Google is working on a new Android camera API, supports Camera RAW
Posted by Ebato
On 2014-06-01 12:44:59, randomuser wrote:
On 2014-06-01 10:29:36, Ebato wrote:
On 2014-05-31 08:34:47, randomuser wrote:
Also Z3 remains the only high end offering from Sony left for this year. No other high end devices.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-05-31 07:37 ]
What about that rumored WP8.1 phone in July, does it count?
AFAIK there was no high end WP8 device planned by Sony Mobile. There were some ODM devices that were to run WP8.1 but I have no updates on their progress at this stage.
Well, that sucks, I was hoping for something in 2014. It seems Sony does not want to risk a penny on android alternatives, while samsung just released its first tizen phone...
Posted by CrownedAkuma
Sony is Teasing a new device
https://twitter.com/sonyxperia/status/473389317751328768/photo/1
"Shh… do you want to know a secret? Stay tuned for the next big thing this season. "
Z2 Ultra?
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2014-06-02 10:25 ]
Posted by motvikt
So maybe we'll see an announcement at mobile Asia expo this year again. That would mean that the new ultra will be announced 12-13 June
Posted by Ranjith
Looks like ULTRA! and looks thinner than Z2
sweet!
Posted by itsjustJOH
That looks really thin.
Posted by amirprog
It is the next ultra cause sony just confirmed it = "the next big thing".
so the leaked metal frame was of the new ultra, not z3... it has the same dimensions of the leaks.
i hope that the new ultra will get the z2's camera and flash.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-06-02 11:00 ]
Posted by itsjustJOH
Hmmmm, ramu said there might never be a Z Ultra successor for this year or ever.
Posted by CrownedAkuma
seeing the pics it just looks like the leaked Profile
it looks like it will have a metal unibody with the semi-frame inserted... this make it looks thinner...
LOL the I/O button will be even smaller...
Posted by MartenR
The 8 inch tablet I guess.
Posted by litoni
On 2014-06-02 11:22:10, CrownedAkuma wrote:
Sony is Teasing a new device
https://twitter.com/sonyxperia/status/473389317751328768/photo/1
"Shh… do you want to know a secret? Stay tuned for the next big thing this season. "
Z2 Ultra?
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2014-06-02 10:25 ]
it is the next gen of z ultra or z3, why? cause it has a camera key, so it cant be a tablet
Posted by XperiaJunkie
Could this mystery device use the SD 805? The Z Ultra was the first device from Sony to use the SD 800 so would probably seem logical providing Qualcomm have the chip ready for use.
Posted by ascariss
I am sure it is just the angle or the style here, but it almost looks like 2 pieces of glass, sandwitching metal in the middle. Personally not sure what I'd prefer, z ultra or 8 inch tablet.
If the device ships with QHD, then the SD805 would make sense.
If its anywhere near 7 inches, then using as a phone will look like this.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsu[....]rtphone_in_korea-news-8673.php
whatever it is in the end, I hope Sony didn't opt to cripple the camera and add no flash or not opt for the 20.7 sensor.
edit, teaser timeline seems to be similar as with previous ZU, if anything is too leak, should be in the next 2-3 weeks.
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]tra-teased-super-slim-phablet/
[ This Message was edited by: ascariss on 2014-06-02 13:32 ]
Posted by AbhiD999
On 2014-06-02 14:16:31, ascariss wrote:
I am sure it is just the angle or the style here, but it almost looks like 2 pieces of glass, sandwitching metal in the middle. Personally not sure what I'd prefer, z ultra or 8 inch tablet.
If the device ships with QHD, then the SD805 would make sense.
If its anywhere near 7 inches, then using as a phone will look like this.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsu[....]rtphone_in_korea-news-8673.php
whatever it is in the end, I hope Sony didn't opt to cripple the camera and add no flash or not opt for the 20.7 sensor.
As per some leaks z2/z3 ultra will have pretty much same size as z ultra but will house a bigger screen!
And as ultra series is meant for 1 year cycle it would be much more logical for Sony to go with the latest S805 in it.
That would mean S805 in z3 too at IFA unless Sony wants to dive away from two flagship/yr strategy.
Posted by XperiaJunkie
Could this be the screen in the the next Z Ultra or what ever that device is? Found it on the JDI website, the only thing that would'nt add up would be a smaller screen @ 6.2 inch.
http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2013/20131024.html
Screen size (diagonal) 6.2-inch (15.8cm)
Number of pixels 1440(x RGB) x 2560 (WQHD)
Resolution density 473ppi
Dimensions 80.18mm(W) x 146.73mm(H) x 1.65mm(D)
Dead-band top1.0mm side1.0mm
NTSC ratio 70%
Contrast ratio 1000:1 (Typ.)
Viewing angle >160 degree（CR>100:1）
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2014-06-02 13:39 ]
Posted by randomuser
I guess that's the iPad mini rival.
7-8" display
SD801
3GB RAM
Posted by ascariss
A smaller screen is not necessarily a bad thing and the difference in size is not that much really
inches
http://www.displaywars.com/6,44-inch-16x9-vs-6,2-inch-16x9
cm
http://www.displaywars.com/16[....]e-16x9-vs-15,8-centimetre-16x9
the screens is not that much smaller, around 3mm shorter around 6mm less width
best bet will be a leak from evleaks.
[ This Message was edited by: ascariss on 2014-06-02 14:03 ]
Posted by goldenface
I'm sort of hoping it will be the Z2 Ultra and even thinner than the current version.
Posted by kurtdean
^ it will be thinner trust me
Posted by amirprog
It will definitely not be thinner.
If you compare this device profile with z ultra (6.5mm) then this device looks to be about 7.5-8mm thin in my eyes.
could be because they want to get z2 camera sensor inside. it would not be possible with a 6.5mm device. look at this comparison between z2 and its camera sensor size: http://youtu.be/NiV2w4iAnog?t=1m59s
i'm not ignoring the possibility of this being marketed as tablet with phone capabilities, but according to this pic i'm betting it will have the 20.7mp sensor with flash.
Posted by nodarsixar
Xperia Z2 Ultra =D510X pegasus?
Posted by kurtdean
On 2014-06-02 16:00:34, amirprog wrote:
It will definitely not be thinner.
If you compare this device profile with z ultra (6.5mm) then this device looks to be about 7.5-8mm thin in my eyes.
could be because they want to get z2 camera sensor inside. it would not be possible with a 6.5mm device. look at this comparison between z2 and its camera sensor size: http://youtu.be/NiV2w4iAnog?t=1m59s
i'm not ignoring the possibility of this being marketed as tablet with phone capabilities, but according to this pic i'm betting it will have the 20.7mp sensor with flash.
Yup I agree with u but if it doesn't have 20.7mp sensor with flash then it will be definitely thinner than Z ultra
Posted by razec
On 2014-06-02 14:56:22, randomuser wrote:
I guess that's the iPad mini rival.
7-8" display
SD801
3GB RAM
I wonder if they would bring the pencil input feature on ZU to that device?
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2014-06-02 15:24 ]
Posted by amirprog
@kurtdean
You missed my point. it won't be thinner then or 6.5mm thin as z ultra, regardless of the camera sensor size. just measure closely z ultra dimensions with this pic dimensions. look at the power button size of each pic compared to each device profile. i just use my eyes. if someone has photoshop skills then it would be easier to measure. i don't.
Posted by Ranjith
I really hope they dont omit the flash! I skipped ZU cause of the very same reason!
Posted by alexander87
On 2014-06-02 16:13:35, nodarsixar wrote:
Xperia Z2 Ultra =D510X pegasus?
Xperia Z2 Ultra =D6969 bigusdickus
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2014-06-02 17:15:47, alexander87 wrote:
On 2014-06-02 16:13:35, nodarsixar wrote:
Xperia Z2 Ultra =D510X pegasus?
Xperia Z2 Ultra =D6969 bigusdickus
Confirmed. Please post this in your blog nodar.
Posted by AbhiD999
That's not a tablet/mini tablet for sure as some people are assuming here!
Why would a tab have a cam key ? It's not only illogical but something that has never happened and most probably wud not happen in future either.
I just hope it's smaller than current ultra and more of flagship phablet competitor rather than some unbaked niche device.
Posted by -XYZ
Interesting development...
Posted by goldenface
The picture also depicts what looks like a pebbled beach. IP rated too?
Also, what happened to the WiFi version of the Z Ultra?
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2014-06-02 17:31 ]
Posted by milukugiuniu
Ive just learned some latest info about Z3 and Z3C. So I got up in this midnight and posted for your guys without any delay：
1 Z3 will be similar to Z2 in terms of HW spec. The differences will be design, bazel and thickness. The carema will get improvement more or less.
2 The surprising device for 2nd is Z3C, which will be anounced by the end of Aug. Z3C is super-beautiful device with super-high screen ratio. The front side bazel will be super-thin and the black grid between the bazel and screen will be super-thin as well. The optical component will be thinner than that of the current ones.
The white device will have white bazel. The screen is 4.6 and 720P. The bazel is plastic-made with unique surface treatment（Im not allowed to tell the details）and the feeling is awesome. It will have new designed dual-speaker. Unfortunately, the CPU remains no change.
I myself will get Z3C for sure.
Posted by ascariss
On 2014-06-02 18:16:02, AbhiD999 wrote:
That's not a tablet/mini tablet for sure as some people are assuming here!
Why would a tab have a cam key ? It's not only illogical but something that has never happened and most probably wud not happen in future either.
I just hope it's smaller than current ultra and more of flagship phablet competitor rather than some unbaked niche device.
I agree, also the timing lines up with the previous ultra.
Posted by alexander87
If I remember correctly the Z Ultra teaser showed it from the side and also having a camera key, well guess what? ^_^
They can intentionally add/remove some stuff, no legal obligation for the revealed device to be the EXACT same as in the teaser.
Posted by AbhiD999
Here we go!
So ultimately Z3 will be a HUGE disappointment in terms of specs!
I just hope Sony names it Z2s or something like that. It just doesn't deserve Z3 moniker
Posted by jonfensu
@Milu Z3C ..... Wo, wo Stop it you!
Posted by motvikt
On 2014-06-02 18:54:58, milukugiuniu wrote:
Ive just learned some latest info about Z3 and Z3C. So I got up in this midnight and posted for your guys without any delay：
1 Z3 will be similar to Z2 in terms of HW spec. The differences will be design, bazel and thickness. The carema will get improvement more or less.
2 The surprising device for 2nd is Z3C, which will be anounced by the end of Aug. Z3C is super-beautiful device with super-high screen ratio. The front side bazel will be super-thin and the black grid between the bazel and screen will be super-thin as well. The optical component will be thinner than that of the current ones.
The white device will have white bazel. The screen is 4.6 and 720P. The bazel is plastic-made with unique surface treatment（Im not allowed to tell the details）and the feeling is awesome. It will have new designed dual-speaker. Unfortunately, the CPU remains no change.
I myself will get Z3C for sure.
If that is true my next phone will be a compact too