Posted by hihihans
That always bothered me. Why sell the best you have and use less quality for your own products.
Money makes the world go around 🎶
Posted by -XYZ
On 2014-05-18 12:21:14, hihihans wrote:
That always bothered me. Why sell the best you have and use less quality for your own products.
Money makes the world go around 🎶
Who actually does this?
Posted by goldenface
I hope Sony doesn't make usb the primary means of charging our phones. I don't find the USB port very reliable over time, I prefer the docking method.
I'm pretty excited about the Z2 ultra. If they can add a flash to the camera, make it smaller all round and keep the same screen it will be fantastic device.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2014-05-18 13:29 ]
Posted by hihihans
Sony with its Carl Zeiss lenses
Posted by -XYZ
On 2014-05-18 14:03:12, hihihans wrote:
Sony with its Carl Zeiss lenses
MicroNokia would have a few things to say about that.
MicroUSB is needed for data transfer. The docking port is great, and if they can give it data transfer functionality, that'd even better. However, they should never get rid of MicroUSB charging. Even if they switch to a magnetic charger/data transfer cable, MicroUSB should always be there.
You have no idea, how many times my phone has been saved, by being able to use any other persons phone charger. The cross compatability of chargers in the android space, and even the handful of blackberries, is indispensable
Posted by Tsepz_GP
I have to agree with XYZ
My Xperia X10 was the 1st phone I had with MicroUSB charging as I came from a Nokia 5800xm, at that time BlackBerrys were gaining huge momentum here, everyone of my friends was getting a BB while I went Android, luckily BB used MicroUSB charging so despite me using a SE and them using BBs I never had to worry about carrying a charger, and I found that the BB 9900 Bold charger charged my X10 faster than the SE charger itself.
MicroUSB has been the best thing to happen to consumers in this industry, well except for iPhone buyers.
Posted by Ricky D
goldenface said primary means of charging not only means of charging.
The dock at the minute is more usable than USB in routine use. We'll see what the next specification USB brings but I agree with goldenface.
Posted by MartenR
Do you know if current Xperias could be charged by micro USB and magnetic charging port at the same time? It would be useful if they put magnetic port, USB and wireless charging in an advanced dock for ultra-fast charging.
Posted by Wintermute
On 2014-05-18 17:36:58, MartenR wrote:
Do you know if current Xperias could be charged by micro USB and magnetic charging port at the same time? It would be useful if they put magnetic port, USB and wireless charging in an advanced dock for ultra-fast charging.
That won't happen. The limit is not the number of ports, but rather how much current the battery can safely accept. Also remember that the faster you charge a battery, the faster it wears out.
Posted by HxH
On 2014-05-17 18:53:17, itsjustJOH wrote:
@HxH
FoV is decreased because of the software stabilization. And you can only appreciate it on video. A 3-axis (2-axis seems not as useful) would greatly help in both stills and video.
give me proper argument when 3-axis OIS hardware generally available to consumer market, or at least when Nokia would allowed other manufacturers to license out this technology. otherwise it's invalid to me.
Posted by argiriano
So rumors about Z3 but not about Z2Compact...
Shame it would be pretty awesome to see 4,5" Z2C with the same casing az Z1C but smaller bazels.
Also I think it will be a real hit over the holiday season when iPhones will be also bigger devices as Android flagships and many people will start to look about smaller ones.
Posted by Detox
zomgbbqftw posted this:
Possible Z3 information. Not even close to 100% though...
5.2" 1080p IPS, new anti-reflective and anti-glare filters borrowed from their TV division.
Significantly smaller bezels.
Same sized battery.
S805 @ 2.5GHz.
4GB RAM.
Waterproof.
Slightly slimmer by around 0.5mm.
Wireless charging in built, but requires the purchase of some kind of charging accessory.
One prototype uses the new USB micro standard which is reversible and holds a higher charge.
Posted by MNX1024
Now I wonder how much of those specs are going to make it over to the launched unit.
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2014-05-19 13:46:16, HxH wrote:
give me proper argument when 3-axis OIS hardware generally available to consumer market, or at least when Nokia would allowed other manufacturers to license out this technology. otherwise it's invalid to me.
Uh, okay?
Posted by -XYZ
I'm going to go ahead and say that the things that won't carry over, is the RAM (I think 3GB is fine) and the neew Micro USB standard (its too new, and not widely available/supported yet).
The rest seems fairly reasonable, and frankly expected. The Z2 has a great display for sure, but its not as bright as competition and his hilariously reflective. Like....it could be used as a mirror. That anti-glare/reflectance filters had better be really good. Anything like the ClearBlack tech that Nokia used once upon a time, would be perfect.
Also, increased contrast would be nice. Also a stable gamma that is 2.2. They had that in pre-production Z2's, but changed it for some reason...
Next thing I want to hear about is the camera and its software. Well, the design as well of course.
Posted by miromiromi
the anti-glare gorilla glass was announced last year but no company is still using it. i wonder where that product is now.
http://news.discovery.com/tec[....]n-disinfects-itself-130705.htm
Posted by itsjustJOH
I wanna steal super powers from birds.
Posted by nodarsixar
https://www.facebook.com/page[....]Georgia/726467130721436?ref=hl
:D :D :D :D
Posted by DexterMoser
^Nodar! I expected a more serious post from a guy like you. You should post some rumors!
(btw you forgot LG
)
On 2014-05-19 17:07:27, itsjustJOH wrote:
I wanna steal super powers from birds.
Posted by Detox
zomgbbqftw part 2:
Got some more info on the screen. Best in class contrast, around 1700:1, and the filter has some new ambient light rejection stuff which allows people to view it in direct sunlight without any issues. It is technology exclusive to Sony and from what I was told they are not licencing it to anyone. It will help save battery life as direct sunlight viewing will no longer require full brightness.
-XYZ, seems like your prayer is heard
.
Posted by -XYZ
BOOM
!
It's all super simple stuff. Look at areas that people or critics thought deficient, and look to improve them.
Sunlight viewing is problematic in all smartphones cause of brightness and the fact that the screen is overlaid with highly reflective glass.
Btw, where us ZOMG posting this? Neogaf? Or elsewhere. Could I get a link to the thread?
[ This Message was edited by: -XYZ on 2014-05-19 19:35 ]
Posted by Detox
Here and there you go!
Posted by cu015170
On 2014-05-18 05:28:44, Shino03 wrote:
Now that Nokia is finally out of the game, can Sony now use Carl zeiss on their smartphones?
They could start a partnership with Zeiss at any point, if Zeiss are down for it, but that doesn't mean that they will be able to use any of the technology co-developed with Nokia, so working with Zeiss doesn't give Sony any sort of guarantee that these new lenses will be better than the old ones.. tho it needs to be said that it can't really get much worse for them at this point so it might be a good idea to outsource those.
Smartphone optics are tricky.
Posted by Shino03
^ I'm just wondering if MS bought all the camer tech licenses of Nokia. Sony should definitely invest on those seeing that MS is surely not going to focus on camera unlike Nokia.
I also hope that Sony would step up their game in mobile photography. I still think they're holding back their potential because of their camera division. They should realize that mobile camera is what the market demands. Actually, it worries me that Nokia is now out since no one else would push Sony to develop new tech in mobile cameras.
[ This Message was edited by: Shino03 on 2014-05-20 09:26 ]
Posted by nodarsixar
Xperia Z3=Snapdragon 810?
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]e-chips-onto-the-table_id56288
Posted by -XYZ
@Nodarsixar
The answer is probably no.
Posted by amirprog
"First Sony Xperia Z3 Rumors: Metal Frame, PVD Coating, Snapdragon 805 and More": http://www.gforgames.com/gadg[....]etal-pvd-snapdragon-805-43418/
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-05-20 14:06 ]
Posted by josephnero
@ noda
Snapdragon 810 wont even come at 1st quarter of 2015
((the 808 and 810 likely won't show up in devices until the first half of 2015))
http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]te-category-67-support-in-2015
Posted by ascariss
On 2014-05-20 17:29:57, josephnero wrote:
@ noda
Snapdragon 810 wont even come at 1st quarter of 2015
((the 808 and 810 likely won't show up in devices until the first half of 2015))
http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]te-category-67-support-in-2015
according to digitimes, the 808 and 810 will be available before year end 2014, so if anything perhaps the Z4 if it shows up at CES 2015, might be sporting the 810.
http://www.gsmarena.com/qualc[....]_production_soon-news-8568.php
Posted by maiaramdan
On 2014-05-19 15:45:51, Detox wrote:
zomgbbqftw posted this:
Possible Z3 information. Not even close to 100% though...
5.2" 1080p IPS, new anti-reflective and anti-glare filters borrowed from their TV division.
Significantly smaller bezels.
Same sized battery.
S805 @ 2.5GHz.
4GB RAM.
Waterproof.
Slightly slimmer by around 0.5mm.
Wireless charging in built, but requires the purchase of some kind of charging accessory.
One prototype uses the new USB micro standard which is reversible and holds a higher charge.
i read both Quotes for zomgbbqftw
this one and the other
honestly too good to be true
also i think SONY will never use the new S808 as they did before with the S600 & S800
they may use the S810 directly in the Z4 after they use the S805 in the Z3
no S808 for SONY
Posted by -XYZ
I'm not convinced 8 cores are really necessary. Just seems to be overkill.
Apple gets by, by using 2 ENORMOUS cores, and a low-ish frequency. Qualcomm uses comparatively TINY little cores, that are clocked at over 2GHz. Are big numbers really that important?
Posted by Xajel
On 2014-05-20 11:35:04, nodarsixar wrote:
Xperia Z3=Snapdragon 810?
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]e-chips-onto-the-table_id56288
Nope, 810 will be in production in late 2014, in devices in early 2015...
Z3 = 805
Z4 = 810
@ascariss
That's for chipset availability, devices will need some time to be ready after
[ This Message was edited by: Xajel on 2014-05-20 19:10 ]
Posted by -XYZ
I really wish Sony would just nice kill their TV division already.
They would be better off investing in semiconductor fabrication, to make their own ARM based chipsets.
I mean eventually they could even start making the secondary chip in the PS4 and maybe even licencing AMD's APU for totally in-house fabrication, reducing costs by a f**kload, and allowing for higher margins.
Side benefit, they get experience in SoC design for use in their own smartphones.
Posted by sami92a
On 2014-05-20 20:39:31, -XYZ wrote:
I really wish Sony would just nice kill their TV division already.
They would be better off investing in semiconductor fabrication, to make their own ARM based chipsets.
I mean eventually they could even start making the secondary chip in the PS4 and maybe even licencing AMD's APU for totally in-house fabrication, reducing costs by a f**kload, and allowing for higher margins.
Side benefit, they get experience in SoC design for use in their own smartphones.
Hell no! I own a Bravia and its the best tv i ever owned so i really wish they´ll continue doing their awesome tvs!
Posted by amirprog
I think that killing their tv division will hurt the brand very much because sony brand first of all is linked to tv historically and subconsciously: tv>sound>playstation>camera>mobile>laptops (that don't exist anymore for that reason also). with all sony's history in tvs and leading the industry for a long time it's a shame that they did not arrive to the point that they manufacture their own panels for mobile devices like lg, samsung, sharp are doing.
Posted by -XYZ
The TV division is killing their finances.
I think they should take the hit on their so-called "brand" and get rid of this gangrenous, cancerous, tumour of a division that is doing nothing but soaking up money and converting all profits into loss.
I'd be really surprised if they could pull of a turnaround, because Samsung, LG and Vizio are all driving prices downwards and doesn't matter how brilliant Sony's TV's are. Average Joe's go into a showroom, see that Samsung and LG's TV's have bright, oversaturated colours, look at the pricetage, see that Sony's is $500 more expensive, and then buy the Samsung.
This is all by the by though....
Posted by amirprog
@-XYZ
It's easier to kill things, harder to rebuild... i agree about prices, they need to try to be more competitive. samsung is also rule the tv industry in affordable tvs with more features... at least sony has also affordable tv's it seems. i read an article in the newspaper about "best budget 50" LED tvs to buy for the upcoming mondial" and i was surprised to see sony on top (with samsung) and also sony was picked for best picture quality. they need more attractive budget tv's on the market, definitely. this seems to be their problem also for mobile devices. xperia z this z that.... high end... xperia e1 and m are pretty weak. moto g and others are a better deal.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-05-20 21:05 ]
Posted by Xajel
Noooo, I'm planning on a new 70" Bravia soon
Any way, your idea might be good, but in real world, it's too costly, Apple did it in a multi-year planning, the design of such chip is a no easy task. from both time and cost sides...
manufacturing business is even harder, semiconductor plants are expensive, too expensive... and specialized mobile parts require special manufacturing plants also, not to mention licensing and the radio part also which even NV struggled with till they bought another company to speed up things... and convincing other manufacturer buying Sony chipset is very hard, NV is still working on this after investing billions of dollar which Sony now can't afford... and NV is much better known and experienced than Sony...
If Sony should make custom SoC, the best way I'm seeing it is to order a custom designed one from Qualcomm or MediaTek or both.. same like how Motorola did with their Moto X SoC...
the SoC might even be very similar to Qualcomm's own SoC but with some different logic or core counts / freq. thus requiring much less effort in the drivers side when new Android version is launched...
TV division while it's now loosing money, there's a hope and might even do some major changes...
Posted by miromiromi
i apologize but i don't know where to post this.
sony apparently is trying to close down xperiaguide.com.
what's with this stupidity? why close one of the blogs that try to promote sony's brand? they say it's about the use of the xperia name but i don't understand what kind of damage sony will be getting by having some blogs use xperia on their domain names. it's simply stupid. it creates bad relationships with fans who try to promote sony products. if this gets blown out of proportion, sony will suffer a PR problem. just imagine this getting reported on gsmarena, phonearena, and other high traffic sites.
sony's stagnating and even falling because of policies like this.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-05-21 02:02 ]
Posted by DexterMoser
^Well that's indeed stupid.
And Xperiablog?
Posted by Xajel
They did it long time ago with XperiaBlog, but after few days they inked and agreement and XB is still breathing ( in 1 and 0's
)
Sony is just protecting them selfs, as with XB, the agreement changed almost nothing to XB policy, it's just a guarantee that nothing will or might happens
Posted by -XYZ
Probably because of leaks. Won't last long.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
I hope Xperia Z3's bezel is similar to Xperia ZL 2 but thinner. Imagine all features of Z2 in a smaller body. One could only dream.
Posted by AbhiD999
Z3, Z3 Compact and Z3 Ultra : The Trio launching at IFA. Source - DoomLoRD
Posted by DexterMoser
^That would be sick! (good)
Posted by hihihans
Compact, normal and ultra in one presentation sounds logic to me. Same hardware, different sizes.
Posted by -XYZ
On 2014-05-22 00:05:25, hihihans wrote:
Compact, normal and ultra in one presentation sounds logic to me. Same hardware, different sizes.
That is actually an extremely good plan
They should do that every year.
Posted by miromiromi
On 2014-05-21 23:13:29, AbhiD999 wrote:
Z3, Z3 Compact and Z3 Ultra : The Trio launching at IFA. Source - DoomLoRD
to be available in the second quarter next year
hopefully things change and sony is able to release their phones to the market faster. z2 prices should fall by then.
Posted by huiyi
z3compact will be a very, very interesting great product! ! ：-O
Posted by litoni
wait.. if z3 comes launching in Q2 of 2015 with S805 or S810?.... then Z4 will be pushed back till Q2 of 2016?
o no sony....
[ This Message was edited by: litoni on 2014-05-22 05:28 ]