Posted by Xajel
This matches the leaked roadmap I posted earlier
I was skeptic about should I go for Z2 or wait a little longer and have the Z3 instead.. but now, Z2 is perfect as it will be aligned with Z4 later in 2015
Man that MSM8994 ( Snappy 810 ) looks sexy !!
20nm
Octacore ( A57 + A53 in 4x4 configuration big.LITTLE )
Adreno 430
H.265 Decode
H.265 Encode ( the only one that can do this, the rest of Snappies can only decode )
Dual Channels LPDDR4-1600
The interesting note is that Qualcomm went back to stock ARM cores for the high-ends rather than using their own custom cores based on ARM designs but according to AnandTech, these might not be 100% clones to ARM designs
Although these are vanilla ARM designs, Qualcomm will be using its own optimized cells and libraries, which may translate into better power/performance compared to a truly off-the-shelf design.
So Qualcomm will put a little of it's sauce also to the mix...
This should make Z4 interesting... 4GB of RAM should be the minimum then in 2015... I hope internal memory will have two options... I guess Sony will already been moved to 32GB internal by then ( hello Sony Z3, Z2 is already getting some negative shouting regarding being a 16GB only high-end ), but a dual options 32GB and 64GB will be awesome... thought I think Sony will stick to the 32GB at the end...
Posted by MNX1024
Well, if it's 64GB internal, that would be an instant buy for me! My Z1 is definitely going to at least hold until 1H of 2015. Nothing much out there that interests me enough to upgrade at the moment. Not so sure 805 will either.
Posted by ascariss
On 2014-04-07 15:14:13, Xajel wrote:
This matches the leaked roadmap I posted earlier
I was skeptic about should I go for Z2 or wait a little longer and have the Z3 instead.. but now, Z2 is perfect as it will be aligned with Z4 later in 2015
Man that MSM8994 ( Snappy 810 ) looks sexy !!
20nm
Octacore ( A57 + A53 in 4x4 configuration big.LITTLE )
Adreno 430
H.265 Decode
H.265 Encode ( the only one that can do this, the rest of Snappies can only decode )
Dual Channels LPDDR4-1600
The interesting note is that Qualcomm went back to stock ARM cores for the high-ends rather than using their own custom cores based on ARM designs but according to AnandTech, these might not be 100% clones to ARM designs
Although these are vanilla ARM designs, Qualcomm will be using its own optimized cells and libraries, which may translate into better power/performance compared to a truly off-the-shelf design.
So Qualcomm will put a little of it's sauce also to the mix...
This should make Z4 interesting... 4GB of RAM should be the minimum then in 2015... I hope internal memory will have two options... I guess Sony will already been moved to 32GB internal by then ( hello Sony Z3, Z2 is already getting some negative shouting regarding being a 16GB only high-end ), but a dual options 32GB and 64GB will be awesome... thought I think Sony will stick to the 32GB at the end...
I feel they went with an ARM design to speed things up rather than add a year or 2 to development for their own designs.
MWC 2015 should be exciting.
Posted by milukugiuniu
Sony will use intel chips in the near future.
Posted by ascariss
How near future?
Posted by motvikt
On 2014-04-07 19:47:09, milukugiuniu wrote:
Sony will use intel chips in the near future.
Then that's the day I'll leave Sony.
Posted by -XYZ
All of you are exceedingly hyperbolic.
First of all, where's the source? Can't just make a claim without any back up. Who says Sony will very using Intel chips in "the near future"? And what do describe as being the "near future"? 6 months? 1 year? 2 years? 5 years?
Oh, and what exactly is the problem with Sony using Intel chips? If Intel can make a 14nm mobile SoC, with better performance per watt than an equivalent Qualcomm SoC, then isn't that a good thing to use?
Posted by Away
On 2014-04-07 21:30:20, motvikt wrote:
On 2014-04-07 19:47:09, milukugiuniu wrote:
Sony will use intel chips in the near future.
Then that's the day I'll leave Sony.
This.
Posted by Vipera ammodytes
^ Why so?
Posted by XperiaCute
Really enthusiast for Sony move for Intel chips, I was eventually impressed by intel adopting high end PowerVR Rouge in latest SoC moorfield with silvermoon architecture. OEMs used to avoid Intel chips because of the lack of integrated LTE modem, However; this no longer the case .
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaCute on 2014-04-08 07:29 ]
Posted by HxH
On 2014-04-07 19:47:09, milukugiuniu wrote:
Sony will use intel chips in the near future.
Can't wait, could be interesting.
New Intel chip is look very good to me, and yes now integreated LTE Modem plus super-duper sensors detection.
Posted by supercoolman
On 2014-04-07 19:47:09, milukugiuniu wrote:
Sony will use intel chips in the near future.
that's at least 1 year away...
Posted by Xajel
On 2014-04-07 19:11:37, ascariss wrote:
I feel they went with an ARM design to speed things up rather than add a year or 2 to development for their own designs.
MWC 2015 should be exciting.
Indeed, I've been talking about that but some guys here didn't believe, even AnandTech said that they didn't expecting any 64bit SoC in 2014... but here we are, the roadmap looks like shifted by 3 - 6 months for Qualcomm...
and the native ARM design is clever also, the design it self is powerful, and Qualcomm might get some more power by doing small tricks here and there to increase the performance and efficiency over original design without taking too much time...
and again, that Snappy 810 will definitely looks more sexy in the 1H15 high-end by Sony
On 2014-04-07 19:47:09, milukugiuniu wrote:
Sony will use intel chips in the near future.
I hope it wont be in high-end, as if it was really... I'll move to HTC
In mobile, I seems to trust ARM more than Intel, and trust Qualcomm more than any other ARM based SoC...
Posted by milukugiuniu
I heard that 1 WP had been canceled.
[ This Message was edited by: milukugiuniu on 2014-04-09 04:08 ]
Posted by Arisato
Hello guys (and maybe gals!)
Reading the rumors thread from a year ago I'm here to join ur discusion and though I don't have any inside info about Sony products but I'll support u spiritualy instead
Now anyone knows whats the reason behind z2 delays? which part has shortage?
and I don't see why Sony should release a WP. It not that popular anyway
Posted by hihihans
I would love a Sony WP phone but I would hesitate buying one as I'm not confident about their after sales service like software updates.
Posted by Away
I strongly doubt Sony is running after sales for wp8. They are going there because Google is becoming more and more closed with Android. Manufacturers are preparing, just in case...
Posted by Wintermute
On 2014-04-09 14:47:08, Away wrote:
I strongly doubt Sony is running after sales for wp8. They are going there because Google is becoming more and more closed with Android. Manufacturers are preparing, just in case...
Not to start a big digression, but not only do I disagree that Google is "closing" Android" off, but I also contend that you've got it backwards. It's GOOGLE who is preparing, just in case--just in case manufacturers (mainly Samsung, of course) try to fork Android and cut users off from Google's ecosystem. Remember, they make their money when people use their services. Hardware manufacturers will always have some OS to use, but if Samsung were to fork Android, without plugging into Google Play Services, providing their own app store, etc., and use it on their next Galaxy S and Note phones...remember, Samsung has about 63% market share among Android manufacturers. That's a HUGE number of users who could be taken away from Google virtually overnight by Samsung.
Posted by miromiromi
i agree with Wintermute. that's why google started apparently requiring OEMs to have the "Powered by Android" text in new smartphones during startup.
i just hope companies will continue resisting google's cloud obsession as it starts making android less reliant on SD cards and more dependent on the cloud.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2014-04-09 12:59:43, Arisato wrote:
Hello guys (and maybe gals!)
Reading the rumors thread from a year ago I'm here to join ur discusion and though I don't have any inside info about Sony products but I'll support u spiritualy instead
Now anyone knows whats the reason behind z2 delays? which part has shortage?
and I don't see why Sony should release a WP. It not that popular anyway
Last I checked some were trying to shift the blame of the delays to Samsung (without any evidence), but have since gone rather quiet after this was revealed.
Posted by goldenface
So, can we expect a Z2 Ultra around about the end of June? Slimmer, faster and lighter?
Will there be the possibility of a led flash this time around?
Posted by CrownedAkuma
I do not remember who talked and argued about new versions of walkman and video app, similar to the What's New style...
But well... Here it comes...
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]A+XperiaBlog+%28Xperia+Blog%29
At least for the Video part...
Posted by itsjustJOH
^Got the update on my XL. Shame I can't use Video Unlimited, not available in my country.
Posted by CrownedAkuma
On 2014-04-10 13:04:20, itsjustJOH wrote:
^Got the update on my XL. Shame I can't use Video Unlimited, not available in my country.
How does it look/feel?
I always liked the sony APPS... especially walkman, so how does this update of the video app look?
Posted by itsjustJOH
Looks nice, can pinch in and out now like on Albums. There's also a preview of the video you last played on top, dunno if it was there before since I don't use it often. Still can't play my .mkv videos though, not sure if its my phone or Movies, so I guess I still won't be using it. Uninstalled Video Unlimited, requires account manager from Sony which is not available in my country. Can't do anything about that.
Posted by ascariss
The apps update on my phone, but video unlimited is not available in poland sadly. But on a brighter note, playstation mobile will finally be available in Poland in late June this year, so yay.
Posted by cu015170
On 2014-04-09 05:07:37, milukugiuniu wrote:
I heard that 1 WP had been canceled.
[ This Message was edited by: milukugiuniu on 2014-04-09 04:08 ]
Its happening.. its a matter of time.
On 2014-04-10 09:05:20, Wintermute wrote:
On 2014-04-09 14:47:08, Away wrote:
I strongly doubt Sony is running after sales for wp8. They are going there because Google is becoming more and more closed with Android. Manufacturers are preparing, just in case...
Not to start a big digression, but not only do I disagree that Google is "closing" Android" off, but I also contend that you've got it backwards. It's GOOGLE who is preparing, just in case--just in case manufacturers (mainly Samsung, of course) try to fork Android and cut users off from Google's ecosystem. Remember, they make their money when people use their services. Hardware manufacturers will always have some OS to use, but if Samsung were to fork Android, without plugging into Google Play Services, providing their own app store, etc., and use it on their next Galaxy S and Note phones...remember, Samsung has about 63% market share among Android manufacturers. That's a HUGE number of users who could be taken away from Google virtually overnight by Samsung.
Of course they are. The more control they have the better for them..
Google is first and foremost and advertising company. 90% + of their revenue stream comes from advertising.. take a look
http://cms.searchenginewatch.[....]google-earnings-wordstream.png
That's why a lot of their services are "free" .. they subside most of their software development with money generated from advertising. Its a very elegant model.
All android is really is a ad distributing platform using their services.
They can't let other companies have control over that.. replacing their services with other ones like Amazon (kindle) and Nokia (X,XL) have done is the last thing they want, but they also know that there are a handful of companies that have the infrastructure to even attempt such a thing.
Here:
http://arstechnica.com/inform[....]d-fork-android-its-unforkable/
http://arstechnica.com/gadget[....]source-by-any-means-necessary/
The OEMs, such as Sony, are getting the short end of the stick.. most of the money from android goes to.. yes, you guessed it.. Google. That's why Samsung are investing into Tizen ...
I am not saying that Microsoft's solution is any better. It will probably be based on the same solution since they made it free.. but there is no other way to compete with G.
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2014-04-10 16:18 ]
Posted by supercoolman
unfortunately, sony doesn't seem to be growing its PS OS for mobile, so sony will have to take it or die.
Posted by itsjustJOH
Were they even developing an OS in the first place?
Posted by HxH
Content is key and Sony only need to figure it out how to distribute their media & entertainment strength into Android platform, but they never made it happen due to very decentralized in upper management.
Posted by vikeviki
I finally took Xperia T2
Posted by Arisato
On 2014-04-10 17:42:21, supercoolman wrote:
unfortunately, sony doesn't seem to be growing its PS OS for mobile, so sony will have to take it or die.
Well that's still a question! I hope they don't forget their vita OS but they're alreader late enough. Also a PS OS isn't necessarily a success unless they do EVERYTHING right. Does anybody know something on this? viveftp
?!
@ vikeviki
That phone looks nice. Enjoy it
[ This Message was edited by: Arisato on 2014-04-11 03:56 ]
Posted by Wintermute
On 2014-04-10 17:17:21, cu015170 wrote:
Of course they are. The more control they have the better for them..
Google is first and foremost and advertising company. 90% + of their revenue stream comes from advertising.. take a look
http://cms.searchenginewatch.[....]google-earnings-wordstream.png
That's why a lot of their services are "free" .. they subside most of their software development with money generated from advertising. Its a very elegant model.
All android is really is a ad distributing platform using their services.
They can't let other companies have control over that.. replacing their services with other ones like Amazon (kindle) and Nokia (X,XL) have done is the last thing they want, but they also know that there are a handful of companies that have the infrastructure to even attempt such a thing.
Here:
http://arstechnica.com/inform[....]d-fork-android-its-unforkable/
http://arstechnica.com/gadget[....]source-by-any-means-necessary/
The OEMs, such as Sony, are getting the short end of the stick.. most of the money from android goes to.. yes, you guessed it.. Google. That's why Samsung are investing into Tizen ...
I am not saying that Microsoft's solution is any better. It will probably be based on the same solution since they made it free.. but there is no other way to compete with G.
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2014-04-10 16:18 ]
Yeah, I'm aware. Why you think it supports your point, I'm really not sure. For starters, Google apps such as Google Now, Gmail, Calendar, the new Google dialer, etc., all plug into Google's proprietary back-end, and this cloud-connectivity is what really gives them their power. I don't know why on earth anyone would think that Google's making these proprietary apps closed-source is in any way equivalent to "closing Android," but it does show you don't really understand the difference between Android and Google. Android is an OS. If you compile barebones AOSP, you've still got a full operating system. It might not be fancy, or full-featured by 2014 standards, but it works, and it's totally open to anyone to use, end of discussion. The cloud services, however, are Google's, not Android's. Hint: if the same apps are available on iOS, then closing that app =/= closing Android. The confusion comes from the fact that these apps are so ingrained in our day-to-day use, and are given to us by the same people who give us Android, but make no mistake: they are not the same thing, and never have been.
So no, they care nothing about "controlling Android," and this is evidenced by the fact that they DON'T control Android. This whole Google Play Services takeover is living proof of the fact that they don't control Android. What they are doing is exactly what I said above: they are securing their revenue streams against a potential "hijack" by a manufacturer who forks Android. Amazon is already doing this. They are taking Google's work (Android) and they are cutting Google totally out of the loop and plugging it into their OWN proprietary back-end. Nothing wrong with that, since Android is open, but it's not what Google wants, since they make their money via advertising. In other words, their recent actions are a defensive move designed to keep manufacturers from just piggy-backing off of Google's work. They don't want to "control" it, they just want people to continue to be able to access their services from any mobile device. I don't blame them one bit, personally.
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2014-04-11 04:07:11, vikeviki wrote:
I finally took Xperia T2
Nice, how's it?
Posted by -XYZ
This whole "closing Of android" business is nonsense.
If you're tied into Google's services, doesn't mean Android is. Amazon have proven that all you need to displace Google's ecosystem while using Android, is an equivalently powerful ecosystem of your own.
Sony has PlayStation, some movies and some music and obviously games too. But their software is often lacklustre to the competition and fails to deliver on most accounts.
I really don't want them to put Vita OS on a phone, cause it is a seriously ugly and shitty price of software that would get destroyed on the market by much more refined, feature rich and altogether more aesthetically pleasing software.
Just continue making, Xperia devices and the margins on the hardware alone, should be more than enough. If they continue to grow smartphone sales.
Posted by CrownedAkuma
On 2014-04-11 13:15:19, -XYZ wrote:
This whole "closing Of android" business is nonsense.
If you're tied into Google's services, doesn't mean Android is. Amazon have proven that all you need to displace Google's ecosystem while using Android, is an equivalently powerful ecosystem of your own.
Sony has PlayStation, some movies and some music and obviously games too. But their software is often lacklustre to the competition and fails to deliver on most accounts.
I really don't want them to put Vita OS on a phone, cause it is a seriously ugly and shitty price of software that would get destroyed on the market by much more refined, feature rich and altogether more aesthetically pleasing software.
Just continue making, Xperia devices and the margins on the hardware alone, should be more than enough. If they continue to grow smartphone sales.
+1
As much as I'm in love with my PSVita (hardware wise it's still stunning), its OS is shitty...! why those bubbles? I hope for them to put out a big update to make it more similar to the PS4 UI and the Xperia Home UI...
God please a phone with the PSVita OS would be slayed by everyone and everything!
Posted by vikeviki
Friends its really better than Z1 and that too half of the price ,except external speakers which is very too bad,rest features are good,display is not close to ultra when you watch it HD videos.....best buy for who loves big screen:)
I am happy about this phone lets enjoy for time being may be Z2 and Z3 are not mine:).untill sony comes with 1Inch sensor...rest all specs look same
Posted by cu015170
Sony are mainly a hardware company, so expecting them to come up with a competitive software platform which can compete with Apple/Microsoft/Google (aka THE software cartel) is rather unrealistic. Nokia tried to take full control over their software needs, so they can get the full profit just like Apple, and we all saw what happened.. they got destroyed by the cartel.. at this point in time its almost impossible to compete with them in that regard.
We will have to wait and see what happens with Tizen, which is what Nokia and Intel started as MeeGo/Maemo, but I have my doubts that it will manage to replace iOS/Andro/WP in any meaningful way.
Sony have one exception here and that is the Play Station platform.. the reason being is that they were in that segment very early, got a huge user base, and the Play Station hardware has always been amazing. Also, the software side was never as important for the consoles as it is for PC/Phone ... but as you can see now MS are trying really hard to change that and make it more about the software and less about the hardware, simply because they know that Sony won't be able to compete, just like they can't compete on hardware.
So if you are expecting a "clean" Sony smartphone which runs homegrown software on their own hardware.. I would stop waiting.
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2014-04-11 18:49 ]
Posted by milukugiuniu
The next generation of compact phone will be Z3C. Expect year-end release.
Posted by Arisato
On 2014-04-11 19:48:21, cu015170 wrote:
Sony are mainly a hardware company, so expecting them to come up with a competitive software platform which can compete with Apple/Microsoft/Google (aka THE software cartel) is rather unrealistic. Nokia tried to take full control over their software needs, so they can get the full profit just like Apple, and we all saw what happened.. they got destroyed by the cartel.. at this point in time its almost impossible to compete with them in that regard.
We will have to wait and see what happens with Tizen, which is what Nokia and Intel started as MeeGo/Maemo, but I have my doubts that it will manage to replace iOS/Andro/WP in any meaningful way.
Sony have one exception here and that is the Play Station platform.. the reason being is that they were in that segment very early, got a huge user base, and the Play Station hardware has always been amazing. Also, the software side was never as important for the consoles as it is for PC/Phone ... but as you can see now MS are trying really hard to change that and make it more about the software and less about the hardware, simply because they know that Sony won't be able to compete, just like they can't compete on hardware.
So if you are expecting a "clean" Sony smartphone which runs homegrown software on their own hardware.. I would stop waiting.
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2014-04-11 18:49 ]
Sorry but I think your point in not valid. It doesn't take a company to be software giant to make an OS platform. Your example of samsungs and Intel making Tizen is a clear example and a contradiction to what u said earlier in ur post. And about Sony I think through the years they've got enough experience to make a decent OS specially now that they're completely involved with android, they even helped google more than anyone else to improve android. Also another example is BB10. RIM wasn't a software company but they did it & same goes for Nokia and Symbian.
And about the vita OS I should remind u most of the complaints are about the UI not the OS itself, they can easily transfer their XPERIA UI there if that's what u like. That OS is pretty fluid and easily handles 3D icons while running heavy games in the background. They even made a special kernel for it from scratch which is optimized to be fast and has little footprint & I think that's really a good achievement for an electronic company. At the end I should say I think having an OS platform is only about money, marketing and management. Most of the software in android and iOS are developed by third parties(%99) and Google and Apple got there only because they were the first ones there, had the vision and enough expertise. Microsoft with their famous windows OS struggling there is another great example that being successful in smartphone OS wars has nothing to do with a company's background and expertise, as unlike Microsoft, Google's expertize wasn't about OS but mostly network software and marketing.
So for Sony I think their only way to survive in the future is to have an ecosystem unless they want to fight with Chinese low cost electronics(not just phones) in the next 10 years, Hell even now Chinese are slaughtering them everywhere. thats obvious & the best way to make a true ecosystem is a unified OS and Sony knows this. Their PS4 and vita running on the same kernel is another proof. So I think they will and are developing their own mobile OS unless theyre stupid which is possible considering their latency. For a Sony Mobile OS I think it only needs to be innovative, developer friendly, customizable enough for personalization, good marketing and bundling it with innovative and superb hardware. Just imagine a true PS Mobile, a NEX smartcamera, a smart Walkman with decent app libraries...oh well.
Sorry for the long post just my opinion though.
Posted by ascariss
On 2014-04-12 04:20:10, milukugiuniu wrote:
The next generation of compact phone will be Z3C. Expect year-end release.
Really? what about this?
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]altair-passes-through-the-fcc/
is this the Z3C? Rumour was the new Z3 would use a different sensor from sony, 1/2.4 vs 1/2.3 yet the compact is using the current 1/2.3 sensor. Or will the Z3 and Z3C not use the same camera parts?
Something is fishy with the xperiablog story, the new Z3 is supposed to use a different design from the current Z line, so wouldn't it make sense for the Z3C also to have the same design direction as the Z3?
Unless the Z2C will come out in june/july for japan, and 6 months later, the Z3C?
Posted by milukugiuniu
On 2014-04-12 09:02:40, ascariss wrote:
On 2014-04-12 04:20:10, milukugiuniu wrote:
The next generation of compact phone will be Z3C. Expect year-end release.
Really? what about this?
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]altair-passes-through-the-fcc/
is this the Z3C? Rumour was the new Z3 would use a different sensor from sony, 1/2.4 vs 1/2.3 yet the compact is using the current 1/2.3 sensor. Or will the Z3 and Z3C not use the same camera parts?
Something is fishy with the xperiablog story, the new Z3 is supposed to use a different design from the current Z line, so wouldn't it make sense for the Z3C also to have the same design direction as the Z3?
Unless the Z2C will come out in june/july for japan, and 6 months later, the Z3C?
Z2C wont be available.
Posted by ascariss
Then if there is no Z2C, then what did xperiablog post?
I am wondering how the new Z3 design will affect the camera placement, and if Sony will attempt to minimize bezels at the top and bottom this time around.
Posted by cu015170
On 2014-04-12 05:30:02, Arisato wrote:
Sorry but I think your point in not valid. It doesn't take a company to be software giant to make an OS platform. Your example of samsungs and Intel making Tizen is a clear example and a contradiction to what u said earlier in ur post. And about Sony I think through the years they've got enough experience to make a decent OS specially now that they're completely involved with android, they even helped google more than anyone else to improve android. Also another example is BB10. RIM wasn't a software company but they did it & same goes for Nokia and Symbian.
With the exception of Symbian, non of the other ones you mentioned have any commercial success. And let's be clear, Nokia didn't create Symbian, they bough Symbian LTD which was in fact a software company that came out of PSION. If anything, Nokia ran Symbian to the ground with their pure incompetence and arrogant behavior. They wanted full control and pushed Ericsson (Sony) and Samsung out of the game.
I am not saying that its impossible for a hardware manufacturer to come up with good software, or the other way around, but it just seems unlikely at this point because the cartel has such a stronghold of the market.
Just look at how hard it is to break into the market even if you do in fact have all the resources and money to do so.. Microsoft have been trying to break the Apple/Google duopoly for years.
How many companies out there do you think have the infrastructure, intellectual capacity, and the money to take the fight to Silicon Valley ? Besides Microsoft and Amazon.. I really can't think of anyone else. Blackberry are out.. I don't think they have what it takes, but still.. they are hanging.
You got
1. Sailfish OS (jolla)
2. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
3. Tizen (Samsung/Intel)
4. Amazon http://www.theverge.com/2014/[....]-announce-a-smartphone-by-june
5. BB10
so will have to wait and see which one of these would actually survive..
Maybe the market is big enough for 4 major players ? I dunno..
Posted by Arisato
^^
Well it seems we share a common point here. I too wouldn't say it's easily possible to popularize a new OS for any company let alone a hardware one like Sony. I'm just saying they can make a OS and it will be helpful for them in the future, even if they can't beat apple or google. And we should notice if a hardware becomes popular, OS would get developer support as well. So its not impossible for Sony to do that.
On 2014-04-12 18:31:26, cu015170 wrote:
How many companies out there do you think have the infrastructure, intellectual capacity, and the money to take the fight to Silicon Valley ? Besides Microsoft and Amazon.. I really can't think of anyone else. Blackberry are out.. I don't think they have what it takes, but still.. they are hanging.
Well I think Sony has a chance too and a big one at that. They can push hardware boundaries. Something that neither of those software companies are able to do. Lets not forget Google and apple are riding on the success of their software platform here & if someday other software platforms become prevalent, the only differentiator would be hardware and content(music games videos), which Sony has both of them.
But I guess we should wait and see. Odd thing is that none of insiders here talked about a possible Sony OS everytime this talk came up or I didn't notice. Guys don't let us down, any good news! would be appreciated
Posted by motvikt
It still amazes me that some people here actually think Sony can push their own OS when a company like Microsoft which is like 100 times more powerful than Sony fails
Posted by Xajel
If I wanted Sony to have it's own OS, I would say use Android.. but make Google services as second option behind truly Sony's own services...
The UI can be simplified by adapting Native Android UI, but also have a lot of functions and features to customise it ( like Nova & Holo Launchers ) and also supports themes to handle those who doesn't want Native UI and also to those who loves to change...
That's after they make their services available worldwide... they can't do it now as there services are available in just few countries...
But I just don't want this, not at this time, Sony have a small software team, working on multiple OS's or strategies will not fit there needs ( and our needs as customers )... they need to launch the phones with the latest OS version and as stable as possible with very few or no major bugs... keep updating with fixing these bugs ( if any ) and adding new interested and useful features that just works...
Posted by -XYZ
Sony doesn't have enough money to make their own competitive OS.
End of discussion.
Posted by >>SAMEH
you guys got over excited.. just because Sony have the fortunate by release xperia Z2 with initial success doesn't mean that they will get everything they need to make huge jump like building a new OS
[ This Message was edited by: >>SAMEH on 2014-04-13 14:18 ]
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2014-04-13 13:20:07, -XYZ wrote:
Sony doesn't have enough money to make their own competitive OS.
End of discussion.
This.