Posted by rency0722
On 2013-10-23 17:44:26, reeflotz wrote:
@ razec
Agree with avoiding the hybrid, even if there was a dedicated video card on board, heat will be the next issue. I had to limit my notebook's i5 clock speed to avoid excessive heat when gaming because the dedicated gpu heats up too. Fan becomes a blower
Well then lets leave the Windows to VAIO and Android/Chrome OS to Xperia Tablet branding.
By the way, have u seen what we're having a feast on Z1's thread? Sony is set to unveil an update for more manual controls in camera with shutter- and aperture-priority controls.
Posted by reeflotz
^
Yeah, I'm hoping when the rumored Z1-s is released by next year, the camera firmware will already have the revised version on launch day.
Posted by nodarsixar
I hope, Xperia Z2 has Xenon flash and small bezel with Xperia Z3, max screen size 5.2 inch, Pen, Max resolution 4K .
and
I say, Xperia Z2's camera pixel is 34.5 milion, and next year flagship 60-100 milion piqsel
video record 60-120fps
8mm thin and not more small
bezel with LG G2 and Xperia ZL
material: aluminum or other metal and not glass
Posted by Shotokan81
^and sony will sell 14 bilions of units, that will sum up to a lot of pixels.
Posted by MNX1024
Seems like someone is having a wet dream while trying to defy the world of physics, .
Posted by razec
nodarsixar's dreamphone will come, on 2036
seriously though, if Quantum processor make it to ARM chips one day, then we'll say goodbye to desktops and laptops for everyday computing
Same goes for for a quantum image sensors
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-10-23 17:56 ]
Posted by amirprog
On 2013-10-23 17:07:12, xdomino996 wrote:
On 2013-10-22 10:01:50, amirprog wrote:
My sensible 2014 announcements prediction for the high end devices:
January CES: Z1 Ultra, Tablet Z1
February MWC: Z2
somewhere between: Z2 mini
July: Z2 Ultra
September IFA: Z3
somewhere after: Z3 mini
I would like:
January CES: Tablet Z1
MWC Z1 Ultra
IFA Z2 and Z2 mini.
One flagship on year.
Z2 and Z2 mini with AQ8084, 2.5ghz 20nm, Adreno 420 and 3gb RAM
[ This Message was edited by: xdomino996 on 2013-10-23 16:09 ]
I think that sony don't seem to agree with you. i have no doubt of Z2 at MWC. i would be surprised of they won't show it then or by then. i think that they are at least as of now not comfortable with releasing a 5" flagship every year, like samsung. maybe because they are not focusing more in the US market so they have to make a BUZZ sooner then every annual year, like every half a year so by that they are on the news more. do i make sense? Z1 Ultra, not a lot will buy it if they keep going for the same dimensions... so i say Z1 Ultra at CES only if they go for smaller dimensions.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-10-23 18:11 ]
Posted by MNX1024
@razec Doubt desktop and laptop will ever go away. Maybe they will be less popular. Whenever there's an increase of power, you will always need a larger container for various reason such as larger size, cooling, and so forth. There will always be a market for higher specs.
Posted by razec
On 2013-10-23 19:13:02, MNX1024 wrote:
@razec Doubt desktop and laptop will ever go away. Maybe they will be less popular. Whenever there's an increase of power, you will always need a larger container for various reason such as larger size, cooling, and so forth. There will always be a market for higher specs.
Of course they won't, that's why I said everyday computing the average consumers won't "play Crysis" or run AutoCAD or mathlab on their computers anyway so the processing capability of a wearable device powered by quantum processing would be sufficient enough IMHO
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-10-23 18:25 ]
Posted by sami92a
Xperia Note
Posted by xdomino996
On 2013-10-23 18:57:51, amirprog wrote:
On 2013-10-23 17:07:12, xdomino996 wrote:
On 2013-10-22 10:01:50, amirprog wrote:
My sensible 2014 announcements prediction for the high end devices:
January CES: Z1 Ultra, Tablet Z1
February MWC: Z2
somewhere between: Z2 mini
July: Z2 Ultra
September IFA: Z3
somewhere after: Z3 mini
I would like:
January CES: Tablet Z1
MWC Z1 Ultra
IFA Z2 and Z2 mini.
One flagship on year.
Z2 and Z2 mini with AQ8084, 2.5ghz 20nm, Adreno 420 and 3gb RAM
[ This Message was edited by: xdomino996 on 2013-10-23 16:09 ]
I think that sony don't seem to agree with you. i have no doubt of Z2 at MWC. i would be surprised of they won't show it then or by then. i think that they are at least as of now not comfortable with releasing a 5" flagship every year, like samsung. maybe because they are not focusing more in the US market so they have to make a BUZZ sooner then every annual year, like every half a year so by that they are on the news more. do i make sense? Z1 Ultra, not a lot will buy it if they keep going for the same dimensions... so i say Z1 Ultra at CES only if they go for smaller dimensions.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-10-23 18:11 ]
But does Sony has time to give AQ8084 to Z2, if her show at the MWC.
[ This Message was edited by: xdomino996 on 2013-10-24 05:38 ]
Posted by amirprog
@domino996
i ask the same question... the new snapdragon should be announced at CES.
Posted by xdomino996
and... Does AQ8084 is in 20nm? It will be a powerful. In 28nm can't give advice
[ This Message was edited by: xdomino996 on 2013-10-24 14:27 ]
Posted by FMW300
When do we find out how many phones were shipped in Q3?
Posted by randomuser
On 2013-10-24 15:39:09, FMW300 wrote:
When do we find out how many phones were shipped in Q3?
31 October.
Posted by DACHA
On 2013-10-24 15:27:19, xdomino996 wrote:
and... Does AQ8084 is in 20nm? It will be a powerful. In 28nm can't give advice
[ This Message was edited by: xdomino996 on 2013-10-24 14:27 ]
APQ8084 is supposed to be 28nm according to early leaks
Posted by Xajel
APQ8084 doesn't have a modem, so it will require another chip to be used in phones...
APQ8074 in the other hand will have modem... but because APQ8084 does have a modem Qualcomm added other things like the more powerfull and newer Adreno 420 which have a little higher performance in addition to DX11 ( no use in Android ) and the full OpenCL 1.2 support... from our perspective, APQ8074 might be the better choice... the only thing that APQ8084 will be better for us is the support of H265 decoding which the APQ8074 lacks...
Any way, we don't know of any Sony will use it in the H1 infact I doubt that... unless they're targeting a mid year release then there will be a chance...
But Random said before few months that Sony is working on having one flagship per year with a mid year launch... so this might be good
Posted by xdomino996
APQ8084 isn't in 20nm? Ohh
Posted by JackR
On 2013-10-24 19:12:28, Xajel wrote:
...APQ8074 in the other hand will have modem...
Hey Xajel, the 0 in the second place means there is no modem. APQ is Application Processor only, and perhaps some secondary components, but when there is a radio, the second digit indicates the protocol. 9 for LTE, 6 for CDMA, 2 for WCDMA, 5 for TDS-CDMA ( i think). 8074 is the AP only version of the 8974.
Jack
Posted by sony_viet
Xperia Z1S?
Posted by rency0722
On 2013-10-25 05:53:09, sony_viet wrote:
Xperia Z1S?
Judging by its size, I think it's the Z1f.
Posted by BenLing
On 2013-10-25 05:53:09, sony_viet wrote:
Xperia Z1S?
This is Xperia Z...
Posted by rency0722
Oh God, my bad.
Thanks Ben. I didn't see it coming.
Posted by huiyi
Z1F confirmation display is IPS! 2014 high-end display will all IPS! !
Posted by razec
On 2013-10-25 14:34:34, huiyi wrote:
Z1F confirmation display is IPS! 2014 high-end display will all IPS! !
Does that also mean international version of the Z1f will also use IPS?
Posted by nodarsixar
is it Xperia Z1's international mini version Xperia Z1S? Or, when is xperia z1 mini event global market?
Posted by BenLing
On 2013-10-25 15:40:00, nodarsixar wrote:
is it Xperia Z1's international mini version Xperia Z1S? Or, when is xperia z1 mini event global market?
Event will be on 12 Nov 2013...
Posted by king-james
Don't expect much, it's only a event for asian market.
Posted by MartenR
^Z Ultra was announced in a similar event.
Posted by maiaramdan
Japan Display Inc. Announces Development of 5.4-inch WQHD TFT LCD Module
- The world’s highest resolution density (543ppi) for smartphone use1 -
Posted by my ninja
^^ source: http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2013/20131024.html
5.4"/2560x1440/1500:1 CR/1mm bezel top and side..
Exynos 6 is shaping up this year, will be ready for the new S5.. whoo boy, we will see. JDI is under sonys wing, so it will be interesting if they use these and abandon TriLuminos..
Posted by MartenR
^ Triluminos on mobile is a software feature along with a panel with slightly wider color gamut and without QD backlight. It's not the same tech used in TVs.
Posted by nodarsixar
Xperia Z2 has 5.4 inch TFT LCD????
I say
Xperia Z2 spec
5.4 inch WQHD screen 543ppi
AQ8084 processor 2.5 ghz
adreno 420
video format: 4K, FHD and HD (H.265)
34.5mp camera, BIONZ camera processor, G lens, led and XENON flash, F2.0, sensor 1/1
3500mah battery
143x73x8.3mm
my dream smartphone :D
Posted by my ninja
On 2013-10-25 22:36:56, MartenR wrote:
^ Triluminos on mobile is a software feature along with a panel with slightly wider color gamut and without QD backlight. It's not the same tech used in TVs.
That appears redundant to xReality..
Posted by vivftp
On 2013-10-25 22:36:56, MartenR wrote:
^ Triluminos on mobile is a software feature along with a panel with slightly wider color gamut and without QD backlight. It's not the same tech used in TVs.
When was this confirmed?
nodarsixar: Why not wish for the phone to scratch your arse too?
There are limits to how thin a phone can be when you start putting in very large sensors into phones.
Anyways, I do look forward to the day when Sony can release a phone with no flaws, minor as they may be. The Z1 is a massive step in the right direction. Very curious to see what they've got planned next.
Posted by huiyi
On 2013-10-25 15:40:00, nodarsixar wrote:
is it Xperia Z1's international mini version Xperia Z1S? Or, when is xperia z1 mini event global market?
Posted by sami92a
On 2013-10-26 01:00:02, huiyi wrote:
On 2013-10-25 15:40:00, nodarsixar wrote:
is it Xperia Z1's international mini version Xperia Z1S? Or, when is xperia z1 mini event global market?
That sounds really strange :S why?
Posted by DiyaGGD
On 2013-10-26 01:00:02, huiyi wrote:
On 2013-10-25 15:40:00, nodarsixar wrote:
is it Xperia Z1's international mini version Xperia Z1S? Or, when is xperia z1 mini event global market?
Yes just as expected it won't be called Z2
2014 is another year with 1080p for phones (but not for tablets )
What about the screen .... 5.2 IPS LCD .....if so...... how good will the IPS be is it enough to beat LG and HTC screens ??
Xperia S "The first smartphone From Sony"
Xperia Z2 "The first Smartphone Made by Sony" Because I believe Z and Z1 was already planned by SE before ......
So Z2 might be the first made by Sony and not published as Sony
Posted by xdomino996
On 2013-10-25 23:01:00, nodarsixar wrote:
Xperia Z2 has 5.4 inch TFT LCD????
I say
Xperia Z2 spec
5.4 inch WQHD screen 543ppi
AQ8084 processor 2.5 ghz
adreno 420
video format: 4K, FHD and HD (H.265)
34.5mp camera, BIONZ camera processor, G lens, led and XENON flash, F2.0, sensor 1/1
3500mah battery
143x73x8.3mm
my dream smartphone
No no no I would like:
-5.2 IPS FHD
-ok APQ8084 2.5 with Adreno 420 in 28nm
-video 4k 60fps and FHD 120fps
-camera 20.7mpx F1.8, sensor 1/2.0
-Battery 3500mah
-Body Z1.
-maybe 147x75x8.5
[ This Message was edited by: xdomino996 on 2013-10-26 06:42 ]
Posted by nodarsixar
No no no no......
I would like
5.4 inch TFT LCD (real colors screen) WQHD 543ppi
Xenon flash
small bezel: 143x73x8.3
ok: 4K 60fps, FHD 120fps( and 8K 30fps :D )
I like LG G2 bezel
Posted by HxH
On 2013-10-25 22:36:56, MartenR wrote:
^ Triluminos on mobile is a software feature along with a panel with slightly wider color gamut and without QD backlight. It's not the same tech used in TVs.
Yes, truth to be told, it's just a slightly tricked of colors calibration.
I know it frankly disappointed but I still keen on Sony for reason of design and built quality.
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2013-10-26 06:58 ]
Posted by xdomino996
WQHD kill Adreno 420
Posted by razec
On 2013-10-26 08:35:27, xdomino996 wrote:
WQHD kill Adreno 420
if you mean gaming then yes,
but I doubt it will choke the GPU for anything other than that
Posted by supercoolman
On 2013-10-26 08:57:50, razec wrote:
On 2013-10-26 08:35:27, xdomino996 wrote:
WQHD kill Adreno 420
if you mean gaming then yes,
but I doubt it will choke the GPU for anything other than that
battery will die first
Posted by nodarsixar
we need big battery, 3500mah or more li-po
Posted by amirprog
some of the comments are not realistic...
realistically, i think that sony will use the full HD 5 inch IPS whitemagic or pixle eyes display from JDI - they are already in mass production.
sony will only use full HD display for highend devices - they will not go backward in resolution.
they will use the name Z2 - (Z>Z1>Z2...) unless an insider can prove otherwise.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-10-26 12:29 ]
Posted by king-james
Of course 1080p, but some guys here dream about a 1440x2560 screen, for what the hell you need this?
You can't see a pixel on a 5" display with 1080p resolution. Even 720p is still pretty sharp!!
The other things is, why you want record videos in 4K when you don't have a big TV with this resolution to enjoy that??? Again 1080p is enough! They just need to fix better quality and more frames. That's it!
Come on, stop dreaming! It's the famous rumor thread not the wishlist thread...
Posted by nodarsixar
I like 5 inch screen on small bezel smartphone
I like Xperia ZL bezel
I like \"white magic\" screen or TFT LCD
I like 1080P screen
I like BIONZ porcessor
I like G lens
I like 20mp
I don't like only led flash
I don,t like 1080p video 30fps
I like 1080 video 60fps
I like 3000 mah battery
I like timescape ui
I don,t like glass body
I like metal body
I like xperia p, z ultra z1, but, they are in the big bezel!
Posted by razec
I like 5 inch screen on small bezel smartphone
I like Xperia ZL bezel
I like "white magic" screen or TFT LCD
I like 1080P screen
I like BIONZ porcessor
I like G lens
I like 20mp
I don't like only led flash
I don,t like 1080p video 30fps
I like 1080 video 60fps
I like 3000 mah battery
I like timescape ui
I don,t like glass body
I like metal body
I like xperia p, z ultra z1, but, they are in the big bezel!
I like Xperia ZL bezel
I like "white magic" screen or TFT LCD
I like 1080P screen
I like BIONZ porcessor
I like G lens
I like 20mp
I don't like only led flash
I don,t like 1080p video 30fps
I like 1080 video 60fps
I like 3000 mah battery
I like timescape ui
I don,t like glass body
I like metal body
I like xperia p, z ultra z1, but, they are in the big bezel!
Guys I got confirmation from my friendly source who provided me the Z1 samples before, he gave me the first ever XR4/5 details about Z2,
- it's code named: Hanabi
- 2048*1536 CRT Screen Quadluminous!!!
- 208Mhz Philips Nexperia
- 64MB SDRAM
- Memory Stick Pro Duo
- ?Megapixel camera, Manual Focus (needs specialized magnifying glass for macro), compatible with MXE-60
- Unknown version of Android, dual boot with Symbian UIQ!!!
- 890maH Ni-MH battery!
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-10-26 13:23 ]
Posted by mzr7
*Grabs Popcorn*
Man this has got interesting really early and 2014 hasn't even begun!