Posted by racingdriver
Any info on thickness? Tablet Z is 6.9 mm. Z Ultra is 6.5 mm... I guess it will be around Z Ultra. Am I right?
Posted by vivftp
I wonder if they'll continue with a 1080p display or if they'll bump up the resolution. While I'd say 1080p is quite sufficient for a tablet that size, there is always a market that demands the best specs. Also curious on what battery life should be like if it's going even thinner.
Posted by Felimenta97
On 2014-02-02 02:22:48, vivftp wrote:
I wonder if they'll continue with a 1080p display or if they'll bump up the resolution. While I'd say 1080p is quite sufficient for a tablet that size, there is always a market that demands the best specs. Also curious on what battery life should be like if it's going even thinner.
Considering they increase the screen resolution (I guess iPad 4 or Nexus 10 resolution) and use a S800, which is supposely more power efficient than the S4 Pro, and keep the 6000 mAh, I'd say the battery life is going to be quite good...
I've been having some an awesome battery life with mine, some days are amazing.
Once I got 8h20 of screen on (minimum brightness, we don't need more), and a total of 14h20 of battery life. WiFi on during 95% of the time.
Few days ago, I got 1d16h40 of battery, 8h04 of screen, WiFi on during 1/3 of time. PM me if you want proof
Posted by vivftp
I'm curious if or when we might see some truly innovative, breakout features from Sony for their mobile devices. I mean things like waterproofing and quality cameras are great and all, but they're not really unique.
Now of course Sony did have things like IR blasters and floating touch tech on their phones before anyone else (globally that is) so that's definitely something. I'm just curious to see if they'll have more unique stuff to show anytime soon. What that stuff is, I have absolutely no idea. They seem to love trying to push for world records for how thin their devices are and whatnot, so of course those are achievements worth noting. I'd just like to see some truly unique features that the masses can definitively look at and say, "holy crap, I need that Sony device!"
Let's hope we see some of that this year! Kaz emphasized he wanted to bring the "wow" factor to their product lineups. Hope we see some "wow" in mobile too
Posted by Xajel
On 2014-02-01 20:05:00, Felimenta97 wrote:
On 2014-02-01 19:57:17, racingdriver wrote:
"Castor" 10.1" tablet will be waterproof, below 450g weight. (XR5)
[ This Message was edited by: racingdriver on 2014-02-01 18:59 ]
Any info on thickness? Tablet Z is 6.9 mm. Z Ultra is 6.5 mm... I guess it will be around Z Ultra. Am I right?
EDIT: Regarding the Windows vs Android thing, my opinion is that a tablet can't and probably will never be able to replace a laptop. Tablet, IMO, isn't meant to replace a notebook, or Ultrabook or whatever, they are complementary devices. Even if you have a Windows tablet, you would still need another device, IMO...
That's why the perfect combo is a Smartphone (4-5 inches), a Tablet (7-10 inches) and a notebook (15-17 inches) and/or desktop...
[ This Message was edited by: Felimenta97 on 2014-02-01 19:09 ]
Thickness : Peoples will not want a crazy thin tablet that sacrifice some key features just to be thin, Tablet Z while it was ( and still ) gorgeous and sexy.. it lack two things.. no LED flash and the battery was small... I believed that adding 1-1.5mm will solve these issues not to mention it will be still thin ( 7.9-8.4mm )...
In another hand, I still believe that Tablets should be higher spec.ed than smartphones, duo to the larger size and natural of work and usage on them, at least in the side of RAM, storage and SoC.. but mainly RAM and storage...
About Windows vs. Android ( not again )... for the time being, I believe Tablets is for Android, except speciality Tablets like size 10-13" can be used with Windows ( not Windows RT ), these are like business oriented devices... but I hope we will see Dual OS with these sizes...
but convertibles can be had with dual OS also...
The best Dual OS I prefer is not dual boot, but two devices in one, the Windows part will run on normal x86 CPU ( Intel or AMD ), and the Android part will run on ARM based SoC like Snapdragon... and includes a switch that can be used to switch between them in the fly, no need to turnoff then boot into another OS, let the active OS go to standby and wake the new one... with newer CPU's the standby times are very good... but the user still has the option to turn off the OS he doesn't want completely...
And please Sony, Add an MHL input in your Tablets and Laptops so we can connect smartphones to it... or prepare the tablets and laptops to be able to receive and view Miracast screen mirroring... so we can use the tablets, laptops & TVs to view the content from where every the source is... streaming the TV show from the TV to the tablet is good if we want to be in move while seeing it...
Posted by Felimenta97
I agree with the flash on the Z Ultra. After all, it's a phone in the end. But, why on a tablet? Except for sending some random stuff, I barely use my tablet's camera. I think they need to improve the software from the XTZ camera, and add a better front facing one.
Posted by itsjustJOH
I really want to see a cheap tablet from Sony. 7-8" 1080p IPS display (Triluminos, if it won't cost too much), MediaTek's True Octa-Core, 2 GB RAM, 2.2 MP front cam and no rear cam, 16/32 GB variants (no card slot), 4000 mAh battery, splash proof or nano coating, WiFi and LTE versions. No other bullsh*t, just a plain cheap tablet. I know they can't price it the same as the Nexus 7, but at least just $50 pricier. Tablets really should not cost too much, otherwise just buy a laptop which would be much more productive.
Posted by -XYZ
Before you try doing anything fancy with the flash, Sony needs to sort out its ridiculously heavy handed image processing. Doesn't matter if you have LED, Xenon, or even plasma for a flash, if the phone can't take images without applying such ridiculous noise suppression that all detail in images is lost.
Posted by CrownedAkuma
I found this in the SonyMobile page for the T2 Ultra...
were alla this useful function already present on the ZUltra? I do not remember the possibility to slide up to open the Notification tray... seems really useful
Posted by Xajel
While we're all sleeping when there's no rumours...
I was wondering, when will Sony adopt the new USB standard ( Type-C ) ? early or later
According to most sites, devices with the new standard plug will start to appear late 2014.. this making Sirius and might even the flagship after it will not make it with this new standard...
but will Sony have any device in 2014 that will support it or they will skip 2014 and start every thing in 2015...
For those who might not know, USB Type-C is a new standard for next Gen. USB, it's not USB 3.0 or 3.1 it's a new adapter ( plug or socket ) and cables... It will have the same dimension as the current Micro-B ( the one used in most smartphones ).. and most importantly it will be flip-less, means we won't have to worry about orientation when plugging the cable ( same as Apple's Lightening Port ), the standard is based on USB 3.1 specifications but sadly the new plug/adapter won't be compatible as the changes to the design mechanically and electrically will not make it possible to make a complete compatibility... the spec. is meant to be finished in mid 2014 including industry reviews which is planned to be in first quarter of 2014... devices are expected to start in late 2014 after few months of finalising the standard
It's not clear for now on the compatibility with existing Micro-B plugs, is the new standard electrically compatible or not, if it compatible then a simple cheap passive adapter will be enough to convert from Micro-B to Type-C...
The new standard is designed for being used in thin and ultra thin devices including smartphones, tablets & ultra thin laptops, support SuperSpeed and higher power delivery with small socket ( not like USB 3 cables which are bigger duo to higher pin count )... the power delivery will be scalable depending on the device requirement of power...
Posted by XperiaCute
Xperia Smartphone has almost no bezel !!
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Posted by itsjustJOH
Yey, no buttons.
Posted by ascariss
Hmm maybe ZU successor? Unless it is the Z2 then wonder how the waterproofing and dustproofing was achieved with just a thin bezel.
Or this is fake.
Posted by my ninja
i guess the complaint wasnt so stupid after all!
Posted by CrownedAkuma
LOL at the endless Bezel war
now what will the enemy complain about? Camera I think...
it seems real... the reflection on the front seems from real glass.
in the first photo, right of the phone there seems to be TWO black shadow, which could be from the volume rocker... or simply the background...
Also we cannot see if it is thin or thick and the upper and bottom Bezels... they could something like 5-6cm long
I still like the Z1 style... I'd like to have lateral Bezels thin... but upper and down I WANT bezels of at least 1/1,5 cm... I need theme to play or hang it in landscape mode for film or photo!!!
EDIT:
It also has an old wallpaper, not one of those new leaked from the sirius... but IMHO it seemsm to be using the 4.4.1 update leaked from sirius, wich have no gray bar where there are the button on the screen... at least from what can be seen in the second pic...
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2014-02-03 15:44 ]
Posted by amirprog
@the photos
I say it's real, it seems sony took the bezel criticism very seriously. i don't have opinion about thin bezel because i never owned a G2, but G2 owners don't seem to complain about the thin bezel. but is that "canopus"? D6603? waterproof or not? is it possible to make a waterproof phone with that bezel with the current wp construction?
EDIT: i'm sure we will see this device at MWC and it will be without waterproof.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-02-03 16:40 ]
Posted by -XYZ
I really gotta ask....why are the pictures so blurry?
Its not like people are using the pin-hole cameras that used to be prevalent in mobile phones. Nowadays we've got cameras that rival point-and-shoots. Certainly, smartphone cameras produce excellent macro shots, due to their relatively tiny focal lengths, so why is that pic so blurred?
Posted by amirprog
@-XYZ
obviously the blurriness is on purpose, by sony or not. a game of leaks.
Posted by CrownedAkuma
On 2014-02-03 17:41:51, amirprog wrote:
@-XYZ
obviously the blurriness is on purpose, by sony or not. a game of leaks.
Exactly... it can also be to defend against Sony if these leaks was not palnned!
Small bezels has its high and low... I know direcly two LG G2 users which lateral bezels broke (like if there are small cuts)... and its clearly beacause of thin dimensions + cheap materials...
Posted by goldenface
Those pictures are fake IMO. Blurry pics are always very suspect.
Posted by smclion102
FAKE I feel that thin
Posted by Luca-S
The camera focused the reflection on glass surface.
Probably not fake.
Posted by amirprog
@Luca-S
you can also notice the Chinese fonts if you look closely - this makes the photos to be more authentic imo, since digi-wo is chinese site, i guess that person is from china. also in the past some real leaks already came from there, like xperia z1 and z1 compact leaked photos.
Posted by motvikt
I say fake too. I don't believe in blurry images any more
Posted by Luca-S
Exactly @amirprog.
I think this is the ZL sucessor.
If yes,i'll sell my Z1 immediately and buy this
Posted by xdomino996
Is Sony planning to change the design in 2014?
Posted by Ricky D
If we all shout fake and it's actually a real planned leak, perhaps Sony will release a clearer leak to be taken more seriously and aid in hype building.
Posted by hihihans
FAKE!!
Something like that?
Posted by goldenface
@Ricky_D Indeed
Posted by DexterMoser
IT'S FAKE SONY YOU HEAR ME
I hate blurry pics, too.
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2014-02-03 22:33 ]
Posted by maloqs
Fake!It's T2 ultra!
Posted by itsjustJOH
^That would be the T2 Ultra if you removed everything and just take the display panel.
Posted by Ranjith
damn.im in the market for an upgrade but looks like i have to wait till these leaks are confirmed!
Posted by nikola1970
http://www.skinomi.com/sonyxperiaz1s1.html
Hmm...
Posted by DrKnute
Source
Posted by rrm111
It's a concept render
http://www.thenerdmag.com/sony-xperia-z2-avatar/
[ This Message was edited by: rrm111 on 2014-02-04 15:11 ]
Posted by itsjustJOH
I bet it's their way to make their store popular.
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2014-02-04 17:09 ]
Posted by DrKnute
Yeah, it's definitely going to get their site some extra traffic today
Posted by jonfensu
Thats not the T2U ....
The homescreen has a line of 4 apps. T2/ZU has 6[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2014-02-04 16:56 ]
Posted by vikeviki
Date mentions
ate available: 5/15/2014,so MAY 2014....
Posted by amirprog
@vikeviki
Yeah, and i'm a chimpanzee.
Posted by DACHA
On 2014-02-04 18:36:13, vikeviki wrote:
Date mentions
ate available: 5/15/2014,so MAY 2014....
That date might be real. There will be no high end phones at MWC at the end of the month. New tablet(s) and 2 or 3 mid level devices. That is about it!
Posted by vikeviki
^
dacha bro ,so you saying z2 is just refresh or a midrange phone
Amiprog,did any dog bite your ass?
Posted by amirprog
@DACHA
Can you please tell us what level of XR is that? this would be a surprise. if sony going to announce a flagship refresh only around may then they won't have enough time frame to announce a new flagship at IFA. you know... sony.
@vikeviki
no, but that date is still a wishlist because it comes from a site that claims a concept phone to be Z2.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-02-04 19:04 ]
Posted by DACHA
I was told that there will be no flagship phones at MWC only mid range devices and tablet(s). Since this is from a very good source I would say it is XR4 to XR5.
The Z1 successor is supposed to be released late July early August in the US and usually the US releases are a month or two behind the rest of the world. The Z2 or whatever we cant to call it is going to be the first global Sony phone. With that in mind the release will most likely be phased.
Posted by vikeviki
so sad and i am a begging to get a Sony smartphone not able too,so the guys from XDA are using testing phone,so no release of that phone in MWC.....screwed
@Dacha i have one question,what/when/How will Sony be competitive to S5/IP6...........if they dont release
Posted by amirprog
@DACHA
Thanks for the info. it's nice to know that my next phone is going to be announced earlier then IFA.
well, actually that or the z ultra successor.
if that's the case then i think it would be wise for sony to annouce the next z ultra at IFA to go head to head with the note. but does that mean they are going to bump the spec the s805 and 2k display to be competitive with s5?
@vikeviki
good point...
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-02-04 19:15 ]
Posted by Xajel
@DACHA
If that's true, then we might actually have it with Snapdragon 805...
Posted by xdomino996
Maybe Sirius is only variant Z1?
Posted by smclion102
@DACHA
Is Sirius coming to MWC ??and when is Sony planning to sell Sirius?