Posted by unknownC151A
On 2014-01-18 16:17:56, king-james wrote:
@Unknown
Oh really? And Sony not? Sony Z > ZL > Z1 > Z1s = 4 models + some region untits in a year! Didn't list the lower Z's. Why not 1 device per year? Others can, Sony still not. Cause they are too slow to put better HW into it devices...
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[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2014-01-18 15:19 ]
Wtf your response is very poor. What's the difference between Galaxy S4 and S4 Active?? You do the Z1 and Z1s are the same phone? Wipe your Samsung fanboy ass out of the forum. Seriously, if you want to debate, I will highly encourage you to put in more effort in researching. It's simply Z>Z1. Don't fabricate stories to make yourself sound credible. I can brutally tell you. It's not working.
Posted by alexander87
come on man, ignore that dude's replies
he's as irrelevant as it gets
Posted by vikeviki
why does king(queen)-james becomes rhetoric day by day........guys he lost his mind after buying z or may be I recall note2 or 3...ne ways its his opinion but he has to try in Samsung forums..
coming to the point we have one monthleft and we need to ask RANDOM user aka RAMU...why are u silents on leak bro...puts some momentum to this forum........
Posted by alexander87
what happened to razec tho? O_O
Posted by amirprog
@Xajel
interesting. let's hope for a 64 bit device at IFA.
Xperia Z1 Compact retail packaging spied: http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]ompact-retail-packaging-spied/
that yellow is HOT! "for the brave and unpredictable"
and i'm a black phone guy, hehe. that pink is clearly for girls. nice present for a girl. 
"bold with a hint of sweetness" they should make a red one as well.[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-19 21:19 ]
Posted by maiaramdan
On 2014-01-19 22:14:59, amirprog wrote:
@Xajel
interesting. let's hope for a 64 bit device at IFA.
Xperia Z1 Compact retail packaging spied: http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]ompact-retail-packaging-spied/
that yellow is HOT! "for the brave and unpredictable"
and i'm a black phone guy, hehe. that pink is clearly for girls. nice present for a girl. "bold with a hint of sweetness" they should make a red one as well.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-19 21:19 ]
Guys I know the the 64 is the future, but it is not the tomorrow future, may be the next year or so, then from my view it will be better until the 64 right time come that they focus on electric consumption more for example and so on
For me it will be better to give a while for the major program companies so they can make a 64 versions from there programs and games so when the 64 appears it will be useable than to make it and then wait, now from my view and my knowledge a lot of major program making companies start doing and testing a final versions of there 64 version
Posted by Ricky D
On 2014-01-19 23:21:29, maiaramdan wrote:
Guys I know the the 64 is the future, but it is not the tomorrow future [...]
Are we expecting something tomorrow??
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2014-01-19 22:39 ]
Posted by hihihans
I expect tomorrow to be better, I always do
Posted by maiaramdan
On 2014-01-19 23:38:30, Ricky D wrote:
On 2014-01-19 23:21:29, maiaramdan wrote:
Guys I know the the 64 is the future, but it is not the tomorrow future [...]
Are we expecting something tomorrow??
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2014-01-19 22:39 ]
No, not tomorrow, honestly not this year even if Qualcomm did the 64 Sony won't use it before 2015 even I got a rumors, just a rumors and from not that trustworthy sources, that Sony also testing the 64 bit A7 with the ios, honestly I didn't believe so, but I always write any info I got, so if this info have any thing right is that Sony is trying hard in all the OSs now, they have the Android, anf they will build Windows, and already solid they will have at least one Mozilla and they are trying the Ubuntu and now IOS!!!
We will see what will happen, again I am not sure from this info, when I was sure that the Z1s is not the Z1mini I tell it with confidence, but this not yet
Posted by Felimenta97
@maia
I guess they both were kidding with you regarding the Tomorrow thing haha
Anyway. Sony and iOS 7? Wait, WAT? I'm REALLY skeptical about that (even you isn't sure), but if it turns out true, the market will be something REALLY interesting...
Posted by supercoolman
On 2014-01-19 23:38:30, Ricky D wrote:
On 2014-01-19 23:21:29, maiaramdan wrote:
Guys I know the the 64 is the future, but it is not the tomorrow future [...]
Are we expecting something tomorrow??
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2014-01-19 22:39 ]
tomorrow will never come because it will become today and yesterday
On 2014-01-20 00:44:08, Felimenta97 wrote:
@maia
I guess they both were kidding with you regarding the Tomorrow thing haha
Anyway. Sony and iOS 7? Wait, WAT? I'm REALLY skeptical about that (even you isn't sure), but if it turns out true, the market will be something REALLY interesting...
you know... nokia started making windows phones and what happened to nokia now
[ This Message was edited by: supercoolman on 2014-01-19 23:53 ]
Posted by Felimenta97
@supercoolman
I didn't said it would be necessarly good, just interesting
Sony and Apple are in my top 3 favorite tech companies, along with Google. It would be really interesting to what will come up if they make a iOS device.
I just think most Apple fanboys will start to say a lot of BS (which, in terms, is actually true) because iOS is Apple exclusive and bla bla bla...
About Nokia, well, they were using a dying OS. They just made the wrong choice to move to another slowly dying OS.
I can't see why you'd compare Sony and Nokia, because Sony isn't ditching Android or anything. They said that is their focus. But why not try other OSes? If it sells a lot, good for them. If not, they lose some money, but still have a big portion of their lineup using something that is getting money for them.
Posted by supercoolman
we know someone was sent to nokia. anyone know if someone was sent to sony?
Posted by maiaramdan
On 2014-01-20 00:44:08, Felimenta97 wrote:
@maia
I guess they both were kidding with you regarding the Tomorrow thing haha
Anyway. Sony and iOS 7? Wait, WAT? I'm REALLY skeptical about that (even you isn't sure), but if it turns out true, the market will be something REALLY interesting...
By the way this guy told me that the Sony vaio phone will be 2 actually, one of them is an office phone aka had qwert take it with salt also because I didn't see it anywhere
Posted by -XYZ
Sony running iOS is impossible. Apple like their money, and they don't want to dilute their brand by giving it away to other OEM's.
Posted by maiaramdan
On 2014-01-20 02:46:33, -XYZ wrote:
Sony running iOS is impossible. Apple like their money, and they don't want to dilute their brand by giving it away to other OEM's.
By the way I said from the beginning that I don't believe much in this rumor, but I heard it and I am saying it now both this and the windows qwerty keyboard
Posted by Wintermute
I'd hate to see Sony's hardware wasted on iOS, anyway.
Posted by Xajel
On 2014-01-19 23:21:29, maiaramdan wrote:
Guys I know the the 64 is the future, but it is not the tomorrow future, may be the next year or so, then from my view it will be better until the 64 right time come that they focus on electric consumption more for example and so on
For me it will be better to give a while for the major program companies so they can make a 64 versions from there programs and games so when the 64 appears it will be useable than to make it and then wait, now from my view and my knowledge a lot of major program making companies start doing and testing a final versions of there 64 version
I partly agree with you, 64bit is the future, now or later, and it's better to have a seamless and trouble-less transition between 32bit and 64bit...
But the part I don't agree with is for developers.. developers won't create or port any app to 64bit if there's no 64bit devices... why ? because they won't spend money developing something that won't be used at all... they will do what they will get paid for doing.. 32bit !!
The main problem regarding 64bit is that applications compiled for 64bit won't run on 32bit devices ( and OS )... so if there's no 64bit devices out there.. how will people use 64bit apps ? so when 64bit devices are spread and the ADK for 64bit version is out there.. then we might see some companies doing 64bit.. in fact most will do... but most of these will just test 64bit to see what's the benefit of it and this is another reason... a lot of apps actually will not benefit from 64bit and some might have a slight benefit... so if they develop a 64bit only app then it won't run on any 32bit device which are the majority... and if the benefit is not that great in 64bit.. they won't see any solid reason for why going for two apps paths ( 32bit and 64bit ) while they can do it better with only one (32bit) and saving the 64bit efforts for polishing and perfecting the 32bit app !!
Posted by Xajel
Sony iOS ?? that's interesting... but my guess is that Sony is testing the phone/OS as every other company.. they're testing it coz they want to compete with it.. Apple do the same.. I'm sure they have plenty of Android flagships in their labs to see and dig.. and I believe Sony has not just Apple, but Samsung, HTC, Moto, Huawei, Blackberry, ASUS, Nokia, bla bla bla, and Samsung does also.. every manufacturer will take a look at it's competitor products to see them closely...
Sony knows they can't use iOS so why bothering testing it... Apple won't give them this like how Apple control their own desktop OS and no other company can license it... but if Apple did make it.. it will be a major move by Apple as this move will be a truly change of Apple's business model.. personally I feel that Sony might be the closest to Apple when counting design and quality.. but Sony is open more than Apple.. but not in every side too Sony changed in the previews years specially SE days.. they're moving away from property things toward standards ( like microUSB, Miracast, CTIA Audio jacks, ANT+ ) I know they're slow adopting these standards, like BT4 LE for example.. but they like to be unique also.. they supported ANT+ long time ago while no body was supporting it ( and most still not yet )... but now most major makers already had BT4 LE from last year and they just started to have it ( SW2 still depend on regular BT making the connected smartphone drains a lot of battery for this ).. for wireless charging.. Sony tends to not loving paying license.. that's why I think they want their own standard or an open one.. except when the current open standards doesn't satisfy their needs...
Posted by BenLing
Xperia D6503 Screenshots
[ This Message was edited by: BenLing on 2014-01-20 11:03 ]
Posted by Xajel
^^^ finally the new UI
Thought it's just a minor update to the UI, and I still hate that rectangular background in the app drawer... I like it empty with no bg...
Posted by BenLing
On 2014-01-20 11:07:47, Xajel wrote:
^^^ finally the new UI
Thought it's just a minor update to the UI, and I still hate that rectangular background in the app drawer... I like it empty with no bg...
Maybe they will make a fully new UI for Android 4.4 KitKat
Posted by sami92a
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]chipset-to-launch-with-kitkat/
Qualcomm MSM8974AB chipset with 2.3GHz quad-core processor and Adreno 330 graphics.
5-inch 1080p display ,
3GB RAM,
20.7MP rear camera
2.1MP front camera.
If the only difference between Z1 and Sirius is that the latter has 1 GB Ram more it won´t be worth getting it...
Sony has to have something else then this... I bet they´ll name it Z1+ too just to confuse people[ This Message was edited by: sami92a on 2014-01-20 10:55 ]
Posted by Xajel
@BenLing, I hope so !!
@sami92a,
We know that there's will be a slight upgrade to Z1, better SoC and more RAM ( and maybe 32GB Internal ) are good upgrades... As far as what we have now from leaked info.. Sirius isn't the 2014 flagship
Posted by randomuser
Who said Sirius is not flagship?
Posted by motvikt
Its 5.2, xperiablog updated their article
Posted by amirprog
nobody mentioned it but the background graphics is exactly like ps4 UI background with minor change in effects, which is cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkRIUxGFsSU[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-20 12:00 ]
Posted by CrownedAkuma
Well I'm still passing on Z1 for:
-Screen (I want an IPS)
-Bezel (just a minor thing, they do not bother me too much)
-16 GB memory (i would love at least 32GB)
So as long as they improve the screen quality (which I have high hopes seeing the T2 Ultra and the Z1 Compact, and for the fact that it will be a 5.2" and not a 5.0") and the narrow a bit the bezel (would love the SAME dimensions of the Z1 with a 5.2" screen) for me it's an instant buy :3
Also hoping for them to retain the IP55/58 with the Jack uncovered and the magnetic charge. also hoping in a better flash (not necessarily Xenon, I'd prefer dual led)...
On 2014-01-20 12:58:08, amirprog wrote:
nobody mentioned it but the background graphics is exactly like ps4 UI background with minor change in effects, which is cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkRIUxGFsSU
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-20 12:00 ]
You are right... would love to see them unify their UI between Bravia, Vaio, Xperia, PS4, Cybershots... it would give a bigger sense of cohesion of the Sony branches
BTW referring to the slightly updated UI...
- Has they ditched the coloured Icons (different for themes)?? I hope NOT! I loved them
- Would love to see the new Lock Screen Images for each theme
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2014-01-20 12:03 ]
Posted by Xajel
On 2014-01-20 12:39:15, randomuser wrote:
Who said Sirius is not flagship?
AFAIK it's another high-end.. I think zomg mentioned that neither Sirius or Canopus are the flagship while both are high-ends.. but @evleaks mentioned that Sirius is the flagship...
I believe that Sony is preparing another flagship with 805...
This is if the multi high-ends + one flagship is going to be this year... but if there's more than one flagship.. then I believe @evleaks is correct mentioning Sirius as a flagship.. as there's another one coming later with 805...
Posted by DexterMoser
Do we know anything about the battery from this leaks?
The other specs sound good imho, it just a refresh or whatever so it's ok.
@CrownedAkuma:
Totally agree with you.
Im gonna get it, too!
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2014-01-20 12:39 ]
Posted by Away
Desperately waiting for tablet news...
Posted by randomuser
From my info, there is no higher end device than Sirius for at least first 7-8 months of 2014.
Posted by tk007
then tell us specs of sirius
Posted by Xajel
On 2014-01-20 13:53:18, randomuser wrote:
From my info, there is no higher end device than Sirius for at least first 7-8 months of 2014.
Interesting...
So Sony won't have 805 from the beginning ?
We have two main high-ends.. Sirius and Canopus.. Sirius is almost the most known one and is meant to be released in Feb./March
Canopus in another hand is meant to be released later this year... we know Sony's habit of having September/October release for the second one...
Posted by Detox
On 2014-01-20 13:25:13, Away wrote:
Desperately waiting for tablet news...
Me too. I just hope, that they don't rely too much on the Xperia Z Ultra WiFi...
On 2014-01-20 13:53:18, randomuser wrote:
From my info, there is no higher end device than Sirius for at least first 7-8 months of 2014.
This isn't the only card Sony has up their sleeve. So, they have decided to wait probably until IFA again?
[ This Message was edited by: Detox on 2014-01-20 13:31 ]
Posted by randomuser
Canopus is not a Global device but a device for AU KDDI Japan.
Maybe Sony wants to wait for 64 bit Qualcomm and launch Z1 like device or maybe launch S805 with new camera at IFA, but personally haven't heard anything related to that theory as yet.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-01-20 13:23 ]
Posted by Xajel
Or maybe, Sony still didn't finalized their plan which depends now more on Qualcomm roadmap...
a high-end 64bit from Qualcomm might be late 2014 or 1H15 from my expectations and reading around the net...
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2014-01-20 13:53:18, randomuser wrote:
From my info, there is no higher end device than Sirius for at least first 7-8 months of 2014.
S5 is rumored to have S805, heck even HTC M8 is now rumored to have one. I can't believe Sony won't release a S805 to rival them especially that Sony is now a top tier Qualcomm customer, unless Qualcomm or any other SoC manufacturer has something much better for H2.
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2014-01-20 13:34 ]
Posted by maloqs
Hmm....The specs seems unimpressive.
Posted by Away
The tegra k1 looks super exciting, would love to see that ina 1H tablet. (Denver is 10x more exciting, but I can't wait that long).
DooMLoRD said this about the upcoming high end device:
something tell me that sony will make up for the slightly different hardware with better feature set
[ This Message was edited by: Away on 2014-01-20 14:52 ]
Posted by DACHA
I agree with Ramu that there is no high end device for another 7 to 8 months. Like I said a few days ago Sirius is just an upgraded Z1 but it is supposed to be the first Sony phone which will release globally in all markets.
Sony is releasing one true flagship a year which will be sightly upgraded after 6 months.
By the way my source told me that Sirius is what Z1 was supposed to be( better display,camera and so on).
[ This Message was edited by: DACHA on 2014-01-20 14:38 ]
Posted by itsjustJOH
^So the next TRUE flagship, not an update, is not until 7 months?
Posted by DACHA
^^ Yes, September announcement and release.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Sounds like Sony can be written off as a major competitor, at least in the high end this year.
On 2014-01-20 15:34:05, DACHA wrote:
I agree with Ramu that there is no high end device for another 7 to 8 months. Like I said a few days ago Sirius is just an upgraded Z1 but it is supposed to be the first Sony phone which will release globally in all markets.
Sony is releasing one true flagship a year which will be sightly upgraded after 6 months.
By the way my source told me that Sirius is what Z1 was supposed to be( better display,camera and so on).
[ This Message was edited by: DACHA on 2014-01-20 14:38 ]
Ahh jeez, it's this same cycle every year though, guess they'll be back in the game in late 2014/early 2015 then.
Posted by itsjustJOH
Hmmm, then I think MWC would be enough for a "refresh" announcement. I still am waiting for Sony to go for a big solo event like Samsung and Apple.
Edit 1:
On 2014-01-20 15:34:05, DACHA wrote:
By the way my source told me that Sirius is what Z1 was supposed to be( better display,camera and so on).
The software you mean?
Edit 2:
DoomLord commented on the XperiaBlog post about Sirius:
something tells me that sony will make up for the slightly different hardware with better feature set (software wise)
Dunno if he was hinting, though.
Edit 3:
Another comment from him
:
they dont need to... they already have added a bunch of new things...
you will see soon
you will see soon
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2014-01-20 16:10 ]
Posted by DACHA
Yes, mainly software. The Z1 was rushed to market to put Sony ahead of the competition event though the software wasn't fully optimized.
Posted by DexterMoser
From xda:
Originally Posted by MouseX View Post
4k or 60 fps in camera? Crossed my fingers.
iRimas:
4K video Recording.
And Doomlord:
well after seeing all the features i am not sure what to say now
...
in a few hrs (may be sooner) you will get more details
Damn, that looks very promising!
Posted by ardian
that aint a flagship
Posted by DexterMoser
On 2014-01-20 17:44:12, ardian wrote:
that aint a flagship
I think nobody ever claimed that.
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2014-01-20 16:49 ]
Posted by itsjustJOH
Darn, still 16 GB. Why can't they put at least 32 GB?
DoomLord:
I have a feeling that in another 30-40 mins the device will be "unofficially announced"
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2014-01-20 16:56 ]