Posted by vikeviki
Posted by DexterMoser
^^^^ Ahahahaa
Posted by amirprog
Let's have a poll. i think we can sum up the questionable or rather nonsense info by 4 possible options:
1. s805 flagship announced at MWC even though qualcomm said s805 devices will be available from May.
2. s800 flagship announced at MWC even though a trusted user from neo-gaf claims that he confirmed with his source that it will be the only flagship from sony in 2014.
3. s800 flagship announced at MWC and sony keep their flagship every half a year announcements.
4. sony not announcing any flagship at MWC.
which option do you choose to be real?
i'll go with 1, but option 4 also seem real.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-16 11:52 ]
Posted by vikeviki
As a matter of fact ,Sony surprisingly announce T2 and E1 for 2014,so this confirms they are upgrading the 2013 models i,e. E->E1 competition to nokia 520/galaxy duos and T2 for its Samsung phablet...
if we go with this idea,surely Sony is going to announce Z1 sucessor,however they might include s800 processor not s805....
may be we can see 805 chipset in may as Z2
Posted by DexterMoser
My vote/guess is for S800AB device at MWC.
Posted by maloqs
3 device for mwc
D6503,D2303 and SGP521
Indeed D6503 and SGP521 share same chipset,but is D6503 really flagship?maybe not...I would say a high end device.I choose option 4
Also I notice D2303 have similar antutu marks with xperia T2 ultra?
[ This Message was edited by: maloqs on 2014-01-16 13:09 ]
Posted by XperiaJunkie
Do we have any idea what the screen resolution of the next Xperia tablet is and is it likely to keep the 10.1" screen size ?
Posted by itsjustJOH
^Thanks to Sony's no-leak policy, we have NOTHING.
Posted by XperiaCute
that what happen when no leak is exist , people start to troll nodarsixar , nightwing ..
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Posted by amirprog
@maloqs
you know what? i go with you. option 4. seems the most real. there will be high end device at MWC but not the flagship. this goes well with the flagship being the only one for 2014 as "confirmed" by the user from neo-fag and also goes well with sony's statment of "z1 will remain the flagship into 2014" and also goes well with s805 not ready yet.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-16 13:48 ]
Posted by Xajel
@amirprog, @maloqs
I really liked this high-end + flagship theory... it has a lot of Sony fan friendliness...
But really, It might be the correct answer for these conflict reports from multi trusty sources...
so
in WMC we might have a high-end device with that AB pinned 800 and maybe FullHD 5.0/5.2" thought I think it might be 5.0... we might have other high-ends in 2H also...
later in mid-year we will have the flagship.. which will be the only flagship for 2014...
Hopefully with 805 and Adreno 420.. maybe 5.2" with 1440p.. along with other goodies...
Posted by amirprog
@Xajel
Agreed. this is what i said in other words. it makes the most sense... plus, they just released the z1s in the us.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-16 14:32 ]
Posted by alexander87
So Z Ultra Wi-Fi is a shoe-in for MWC?
Posted by supercoolman
it feels like nodarsixar and nightwing are duplicating on different accounts.
Sony didn't really announce any flagship on CES. Sony will either have to skip MWC or have an independent event for 1H flagship, so the question is whether Sony is going for 1 or 2 flagships per year. timing of SoC will come after that
Posted by Xajel
^^^
If Sony want to be successful in their penetration in the smartphone, they should really care about how many flagships and when also...
Imagine that they announced their flagship now in WMC with 800... it will probably released in March ( last month of 1Q14 )... after only 2 months from March, you will start seeing 805 based smartphones, making the 800 flagship isn't ready a flagship...
Then, they will release their second flagship based on 805.. which will make the first one old and obsolete !! not really obsolete but releasing a successor after only 2-3 months from the other will really kill the first.. REALLY !! we're already talking about killing the first flagship in a 6 months cycle like what we already have now Z and Z1.. Z1 basically killed the "flagyshipness" of Z since launch !!
But, when having a WMC high-end with AB pinned 800 as a high-end phone, not a flagship.. then releasing the flagship in Mid-year with 805 to match and compete against other top makers ( Samsung S5, iPhone 6, HTC One or Two or whatever )...
So that WMC announced 800AB based one is still a high-end, not like Z which was released as a flagship then after half year downgraded to be a high-end...
I prefer this plan, WMC for a high-end ( upgrade to Z/Z1, be it Z2 or Z1 Pro or even the international version of Z1s as they tend to have some specific markets with different spec'ed devices ) and then in mid year they'll have the true flagship...
But what makes a phone a high-end from being a flagship ?
1- Naming: If you name it similar to an already exist phone then it will be a high-end.. as it will be like a small upgrade...
2- Spec.: not too much spec. changes from the previews... slight upgrades for sure to justify releasing a new one..
3- Design: A high-end might have the same design language as other high-ends or previews flagship.. but a flagship should distinguish it self by a new design to standoff...
4- Features: New features, adding as much features as they can in new flagship maybe even a different UI.. high-ends tends to be just an upgrade with slight modifications in both hardware and software...
5- Software: Flagships has more priority over all other phones, high-ends or others and the price premium should guarantee even longer software support that other phones.. not to mention faster also.. Flagships tends to have the first and fastest software updates from all other devices the company have.. see how Samsung/HTC upgrade their flagships first then other phones, even previews flagships have more attentions and longer support...
If Sony really want to standoff.. then they need to be serious... from the spec. and software side.. and faster updates Sony with latest Android version is a must.. see how quick now Samsung, HTC, Moto & LG are with their updates !! Note 3 is getting 4.4 already and S4 will follow in a month !!
Posted by unknownC151A
On 2014-01-16 18:21:50, Xajel wrote:
^^^
If Sony want to be successful in their penetration in the smartphone, they should really care about how many flagships and when also...
Imagine that they announced their flagship now in WMC with 800... it will probably released in March ( last month of 1Q14 )... after only 2 months from March, you will start seeing 805 based smartphones, making the 800 flagship isn't ready a flagship...
Then, they will release their second flagship based on 805.. which will make the first one old and obsolete !! not really obsolete but releasing a successor after only 2-3 months from the other will really kill the first.. REALLY !! we're already talking about killing the first flagship in a 6 months cycle like what we already have now Z and Z1.. Z1 basically killed the "flagyshipness" of Z since launch !!
But, when having a WMC high-end with AB pinned 800 as a high-end phone, not a flagship.. then releasing the flagship in Mid-year with 805 to match and compete against other top makers ( Samsung S5, iPhone 6, HTC One or Two or whatever )...
So that WMC announced 800AB based one is still a high-end, not like Z which was released as a flagship then after half year downgraded to be a high-end...
I prefer this plan, WMC for a high-end ( upgrade to Z/Z1, be it Z2 or Z1 Pro or even the international version of Z1s as they tend to have some specific markets with different spec'ed devices ) and then in mid year they'll have the true flagship...
But what makes a phone a high-end from being a flagship ?
1- Naming: If you name it similar to an already exist phone then it will be a high-end.. as it will be like a small upgrade...
2- Spec.: not too much spec. changes from the previews... slight upgrades for sure to justify releasing a new one..
3- Design: A high-end might have the same design language as other high-ends or previews flagship.. but a flagship should distinguish it self by a new design to standoff...
4- Features: New features, adding as much features as they can in new flagship maybe even a different UI.. high-ends tends to be just an upgrade with slight modifications in both hardware and software...
5- Software: Flagships has more priority over all other phones, high-ends or others and the price premium should guarantee even longer software support that other phones.. not to mention faster also.. Flagships tends to have the first and fastest software updates from all other devices the company have.. see how Samsung/HTC upgrade their flagships first then other phones, even previews flagships have more attentions and longer support...
If Sony really want to standoff.. then they need to be serious... from the spec. and software side.. and faster updates Sony with latest Android version is a must.. see how quick now Samsung, HTC, Moto & LG are with their updates !! Note 3 is getting 4.4 already and S4 will follow in a month !!
Like in the 2013 thread, I mentioned plenty of times that consumers do not care about whether it's a 800 or 805 running the phone. They care on the outer image. That's why in advertisements, they only mention "quad core CPU" not SD805 CPU.. And I can gurantee you consumers are not bothered by software updates too. haha
[ This Message was edited by: unknownC151A on 2014-01-16 18:42 ]
Posted by HxH
I think that H1 2014 flagship smartphones will only have SD800AB / AC depend on their sales target and budget.
SD805 will come H2 2014 for devices like successor of Z Ultra and Z1 also up for next Samsung Note and LG G-Flagship.
According to Qualcomm's claim SD805 will have mass shipment around mid-year isn't it or I just misread the news?
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Anyway for Sony, I think they may skipped SD800AB / AC for SD805 in latter half as they mention in new year blog that Z1 will continue as their flagship device which I assume that one flagship per year and upgrade may expect in IFA?
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New SD805 may not have modem integrated again (I only see 8084 chip listed), there could be two chips solutions. one for cpu and one for discrete modem.
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2014-01-16 18:13 ]
Posted by my ninja
Id love to pass on the 800/805 altogether.. force Qual to get their shit straight. The only thing these chips have right now is their LTE integration. Id love some Exynos 6 or K1 (Denver)... true flagships (not just company but industry) this year will ship with 4GB of RAM.. and i can guarantee that samsung will ship with LPDDR4 for the S5. sony is at a disadvantage in terms of samsungs vertical integration, but what can they do.. so on paper 4 > 3.. IRL may not be such a difference but you guys are more than most, aware of industry perceptions... (bezels, and cheap plastic.. not having much to do in the way of a good phone but still an easy target for the chorus of reviews harmonizing the same meaningless points as if they have discovered a cure for cancer)
Posted by Detox
On 2014-01-16 12:38:59, amirprog wrote:
4. sony not announcing any flagship at MWC.
I'd go for option 4 as well...
@itsjustJOH and vikeviki: last page =
Posted by xell
On 2014-01-16 22:30:08, Detox wrote:
On 2014-01-16 12:38:59, amirprog wrote:
4. sony not announcing any flagship at MWC.
I'd go for option 4 as well...
Would be a pity for me, being my first attendance to MWC as press and all that...
Posted by Detox
On 2014-01-16 22:43:54, xell wrote:
On 2014-01-16 22:30:08, Detox wrote:
On 2014-01-16 12:38:59, amirprog wrote:
4. sony not announcing any flagship at MWC.
I'd go for option 4 as well...
Would be a pity for me, being my first attendance to MWC as press and all that...
Where have you been? I've missed you during the annual CES chat
! Regarding MWC, that's somehow or other enviable 
. Who are you going with? lumpi2k?
Posted by xell
On my own, Friday till Wednesday.
Had to work from 6am to 10pm on the 7th, so I couldn't attend.
But let's stay ontopic here and head over to the Chat thread. 
Posted by motvikt
Im guessing a flagship with the improved s800AB soc and 2k screen for MWC and a phablet (6 inch this time) with 805 for IFA.
Posted by Wintermute
On 2014-01-16 20:59:25, my ninja wrote:
Id love to pass on the 800/805 altogether.. force Qual to get their shit straight. The only thing these chips have right now is their LTE integration. Id love some Exynos 6 or K1 (Denver)... true flagships (not just company but industry) this year will ship with 4GB of RAM.. and i can guarantee that samsung will ship with LPDDR4 for the S5. sony is at a disadvantage in terms of samsungs vertical integration, but what can they do.. so on paper 4 > 3.. IRL may not be such a difference but you guys are more than most, aware of industry perceptions... (bezels, and cheap plastic.. not having much to do in the way of a good phone but still an easy target for the chorus of reviews harmonizing the same meaningless points as if they have discovered a cure for cancer)
I agree, if SD805 does not have an integrated modem, then in my opinion there's no reason not to go for Denver K1 in Z2/Z2 Ultra. However, I can't believe you just said that Qualcomm needs to get their shit straight and then suggested Exynos 6. Qualcomm needs a new CPU, but the rest of the SoC is pretty solid. Exynos, on the other hand, is under-powered, runs too hot, and has a screwed-up big.LITTLE implementation. Samsung really screwed the pooch last year with Exynos, and they've got their work cut out for them this year if they want to catch up.
Posted by my ninja
^^ i did, lol. Samsung needs to get their shit straight too. but they are playing a slightly different game... my assumption is that the Exy6 will be an A57.53 b.L implementation (64bit ARMv8A).. the Exy5 (10 and 20) wasnt all that bad if you understood what it was... technically and functionally for the S4, im of the mind that it was a better CPU than the S800 (but it was rushed and broken, the 10 more so than the 20 which never dropped for a samsung device).. but as a SoC not so much, too many drawbacks (still would have been the SoC i would have gotten for that device though, had they not shortchanged the storage capacity).. the main strengths for Q being the LTE integration (flawless) and the battery usage for mobile (second to none) which to be fair are pillars that cannot be fuct with in this industry, which is why they are market leaders. however i like shiny new CPUs that do more regardless of how long the battery lasts.. I am in the niche.. thats fine. still with the 805 Q has either left the window open for another company.. right now K1.Denver is a stronger chip than the 805 but still lacks the LTE (a shot in the foot so to speak, let alone the battery usage) and IF Sammy drops the Exy6 as an A57.53 it will be paired with memory that Q's arch cannot handle (LPDDR4 @ 4GB 3200Mb/s per pin) the expectation however is that they will have a dual variant release with both chipsets.. the overclockers will have a field day.. or Q is asserting their leadership and dictating the direction/speed of the industry.. that in this business usually lasts for one cycle (6 mos). so like i said if nvidia or sammy catch up (allowing sammy to get out from under using Q SoC) it doesnt bode well for their continued dominance. even then though, sammy cannot fab chips at the level Q can supply.. it creates an interesting situation this year. Q clearly dropped the ball and apple caught them out with the A7.. and sammy is skipping a whole node to reinforce their business model. so 2014 is not a usual year where everyone is on the same page.. its an opportunity, im glad to see there are a lot of players calling the big blind... MWC and the private ancillary events will be fun. Sony will be using either a 800 or 805 so heres hoping that it isnt too far off the pace.
on apersonal note, i like what ive read about denver which is dual core better/stronger use of the die area available as opposed to just throwing more cores in.. 2H14/1H15 we will find out who made the better IPC.W decisions..
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2014-01-17 06:31 ]
Posted by HxH
Qualcomm not only leading in mobile cpu space but leading in mobile modem technology as well. The fastest LTE-Advanced modem (cat6 = 300Mbps) will make it debut with SD805 and this modem I believe most likely find it way to 2014 Apple's top shelves product line-up.
End game of argument, why manufacturers need to buy a separated part from two suppliers.
FYI, Nvidia also has their Icera modem team but I don't have any idea about it.
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It would fun to see if Samsung will get their shit together this time and not mess up like their Exynos 5 family.
For me, most likely yes when look at their new information about new Exynos 5620. It's still ARMv7 but this time HMP is included and also rumor same chip will make it debut in LTE market as well not Qualcomm as usual. It make me wonder that who is behind in LTE modem supplier for them.
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Here we go again, Exynos 5410/20 is better than SD800, bullshit I will not waste my time for you again. too much bullshit we all know it didn't happen in reality. only your drawing board of wishlist.
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2014-01-17 06:21 ]
Posted by my ninja
cat 6 LTEA... is futureproofing which is glorious.. however i would be more interested if they got cat 4 to a lower power rating.
nvidia is marching to their own drummer, they need to convince more than themselves that their chipset is worth it.. shield is cute, but no one cares (sadly)
the 5420 i feel is a better chip than the one on the S800.. just an opinion. it never released for a reason and the S800 did and sold millions upon millions so the proof is in the pudding, like you said. but there are other things to consider... the commercial failure of the Exy5 did nothing to stop samsung making another chip or SoC, or the lessons learned which should considered. they still use sony CMOS while R&D and manufacturing their own ISOCELL.. our previous discussion devolved based on a mutual misunderstanding.. 2014 is a different year, and for all i know the past could be prologue to this year.. i hope not, because i want something more than faster LTE which no one on the planet provides.. but because it doesnt benefit me now doesnt mean it shouldnt be added at all.. because one day it will be useful. but if i had a choice between CAT6 and 64bit... it would be for 4GB of faster more efficient ram as opposed to 3.
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2014-01-17 06:44 ]
Posted by Away
On 2014-01-17 00:32:11, motvikt wrote:
Im guessing a flagship with the improved s800AB soc and 2k screen for MWC and a phablet (6 inch this time) with 805 for IFA.
This.
But I think Sony shouldn't abandon 6.4". What they should do is have a successor to that, but also have a device with a 5.8" screen or so. If they don't go for two devices, and they want to actually shift units, then 6" would be best.
Posted by randomuser
AUO 6" 2560x1440 WQHD panel. 500 PPI LTPS AHVA panel
http://www.auo.com/?sn=21&lang=zh-TW&c=2&n=1568
Posted by Ricky D
6.4" is a good size and is ahead of the curve.
In my opinion it's the 7" size which is neither here nor there, I cannot see how such a size has lasted so long in the market place. It should always have been slightly larger at 8" and/or slightly smaller with 'phone' type thin bezels at 6-6.5" (like Z Ultra).
I think Sony hoped Z Ultra could take on the Note and the 7" market at the same time, and it should have been able to. only Sony didn't gamble on a big marketing campaign and so it went relatively unnoticed.
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2014-01-17 13:41 ]
Posted by Jubei1
On 2014-01-16 20:59:25, my ninja wrote:
Id love to pass on the 800/805 altogether.. force Qual to get their shit straight. The only thing these chips have right now is their LTE integration. Id love some Exynos 6 or K1 (Denver)... true flagships (not just company but industry) this year will ship with 4GB of RAM.. and i can guarantee that samsung will ship with LPDDR4 for the S5. sony is at a disadvantage in terms of samsungs vertical integration, but what can they do.. so on paper 4 > 3.. IRL may not be such a difference but you guys are more than most, aware of industry perceptions... (bezels, and cheap plastic.. not having much to do in the way of a good phone but still an easy target for the chorus of reviews harmonizing the same meaningless points as if they have discovered a cure for cancer)
Guarantee? Thats a bold statement considering Samsung has not even announced mass production of LPDDR4 yet
Remember that before every Samsung event, there is hype and rumours about super specs only to be letdown by small upgrades
Cortex A57 wont be available until 2nd half of this year according to ARM. Its highly unlikely Exynos 6 will be based on that. Maybe Samsung will suprise everyone with a custom CPU core but considering they barely managed to deliver a functioning big.Little setup, i dont have much faith
Most likely Exynos 6 is based on R3 version of Cortex A15 and A7 with fully functioning big.Little and an upgraded Mali GPU. Its a decent upgrade but not leaps and bounds better than Qualcomms offerings. I would be more surprised if Samsung managed to use their own chips for all Galaxy S5s this year rather than being forced to rely on Qualcomm as usual
Sony phones with Snapdragon 800AB will be competitive against other Android OEMs. And 2nd half with Snapdragon 805 is still competitive on phones. Tegra K1 with Denver will imo be a tablet chip outside of the odd chinese phone
Posted by estiiii
sony xperia z1 compact
Posted by Xajel
BTW, After WMC in 24-27 Feb. is there's any event out there ?
of course beside IFA which is too far in 5-10 Sept.
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2014-01-17 15:15:06, estiiii wrote:
sony xperia z1 compact
Hey newbie, we have dedicated threads for smartphones including the Z1 compact, might want to post it there.
Posted by my ninja
On 2014-01-17 13:13:50, Jubei1 wrote:
Hmm.. your logic is sound. The new r3p3 A15 with a better b.L implementation, I cant even argue with that. Which wouldnt yield a gap at all b.w 805. the only thing is samsung openly wanting to get to 64bit asap so I wonder what form that will take.
the bit depth and node fab size are needling me though.. we will see. your level of pragmatism is quite convincing.
and as far as the memory, im going to stick with the guarantee. Samsung announced mass production of 3Gb LPDDR3 in july and it found its way in the Note 3 in late august. So theres precedent esp if the device drops in april or may.
Sony isnt in this game so to speak, so they are beholden to Q and their decisions, which for their part are for all the right reasons.. it has pushed them back to success in the mobile arena.
Posted by Gitaroo
On 2014-01-17 13:10:53, Ricky D wrote:
6.4" is a good size and is ahead of the curve.
In my opinion it's the 7" size which is neither here nor there, I cannot see how such a size has lasted so long in the market place. It should always have been slightly larger at 8" and/or slightly smaller with 'phone' type thin bezels at 6-6.5" (like Z Ultra).
I think Sony hoped Z Ultra could take on the Note and the 7" market at the same time, and it should have been able to. only Sony didn't gamble on a big marketing campaign and so it went relatively unnoticed.
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2014-01-17 13:41 ]
more like they are just testing the water and see the market reaching throwing in the biggest panels they can get in decent supply. I think they might scale down to 6" or 6.2" for the next phablet or get rid of the bezel and the retarded pencil touch screen that no one would use a pencil the detroy the screen in real life.
Posted by supercoolman
it takes at least a year to certify a LTE modem chip and this doesn't includes sampling duration. it's impossible for anyone who hasn't put its LTE modem chip in production for more than a year to get their LTE modem into a phone. no carrier will take it without certification.
Posted by mobisekim
Sony Xperia Canopus
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]-what-it-may-look-like_id51527
Posted by XperiaCute
is this back shell of Xperia Z2 (Sirius) / Xperia ZU Wifi ??!
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http://www.digi-wo.com/thread-12861-1-1.html
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaCute on 2014-01-17 16:27 ]
Posted by ascariss
pictures does not load, and it tells me I have to log in to see the photo on the forum...perhaps reup it here or host it somewhere?
Posted by randomuser
The person who leaked the above also claims -
23 MP Camera and a 5.3 inch display.
Posted by supercoolman
leak also said the Z2 in the picture is for Japan with none glass back (maybe a similar cover as the previous Z1 leaks on a table?).
Posted by SS_SL
here it is
[ This Message was edited by: SS_SL on 2014-01-17 17:48 ]
Posted by amirprog
here everyone can see the "leaked pic": http://www.gforgames.com/gadg[....]-xperia-z2-sirius-leaks-40064/
most people can't see digi-wo images it seems, including me. china government rules? i can't even register to that forum.
none glass is much less frigile but doesn't look as cool, but all in all, good decision. it said to be carbon fibre, i'm not a big fan of that mat, i'd prefer aluminum mat like the iphone has, but i'm sure sony will make it look premium anyway. i still hope for other metal though. the pic show only single LED, would be better if they put dual LED. let's see. also, strange display size, 5.3"? strange, if true. if it's indeed the Z2 then no way this is the only flagship in 2014. would be nice if someone can make a concept according to that pic back dimensions.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-17 17:56 ]
Posted by ascariss
Please no carbon fibre, it screws with wireless signals, especially wifi, just ask any vaio pro13 owner, it does not bode well for reception. I'd also prefer a metal and not glass since glass can pick up too many fingerprints and can break where as a nice mat metal is stronger and leaves less fingerprints.
Posted by amirprog
i SO SO SO want to see sony picking the back and front design and materials and colors of the walkman NW-ZX1 and implementing it for the Z series. the design is stunning imo! look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4pLrHvg3xc a thing of beauty. they must.
aluminum sides and rubbery leather back. better grip, hard to scratch, no smudges, looks $$$. either that or all aluminum.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-17 18:18 ]
Posted by DACHA
Xperia Z2 is not(Sirius), at least that is what I was told. It is another slightly upgrades Z1 just like Z1s for T-Mobile.
Posted by Wintermute
On 2014-01-17 18:58:55, ascariss wrote:
Please no carbon fibre, it screws with wireless signals, especially wifi, just ask any vaio pro13 owner, it does not bode well for reception. I'd also prefer a metal and not glass since glass can pick up too many fingerprints and can break where as a nice mat metal is stronger and leaves less fingerprints.
No, no, no! That's backwards. Carbon fiber is (mostly) an electrical insulator. It DOES NOT conduct electricity, but metal does. It is metal that interferes with cell signals. The carbon fiber phone will have much better signal, all else being equal.
I really hope Sony does not downgrade to aluminum or any metal. Poorer reception, doesn't look as good IMO, kills the ultra-premium vibe of the phones. Also, aluminum scratches much easier than the glass Sony uses.
Posted by amirprog
@Wintermute
does iphone 5s and htc one users suffer from bad reception? i didn't read such complains... but if aluminum makes the antena spend more power for reception then that is indeed kind of sucks. is it true?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-17 18:52 ]
Posted by Wintermute
On 2014-01-17 19:51:03, amirprog wrote:
@Wintermute
does iphone 5s and htc one users suffer from bad reception? i didn't read such complains... but if aluminum makes the antena spend more power for reception then that is indeed kind of sucks. is it true?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-17 18:52 ]
Well, I didn't say that aluminum always gave bad reception, just that, all else being equal, a metal phone will have worse reception. I really don't know anything about wireless engineering, but I am assuming that there are some tricks used to improve reception in metal devices. Bear in mind that the iPhone 5S has glass "windows" at the top and bottom of the phone. If they stuck the wireless radios under them, then that would mostly clear the actual antenna from the metal body (glass is RF transparent). Also bear in mind that the entire front half of almost every phone is one big glass panel, so radio frequencies can go through the front of the phone with no problem.
So, all-in-all, it's not a huge deal, but personally, I am not a fan of metal in smartphones, and the reception issue, while minor, is just one more thing that sets me against it.
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