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SONY XPERIA Rumors 2014


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Posted by Xajel

On 2014-01-11 15:13:29, ascariss wrote:
@amirprog

I was in the same boat, when I heard sony was making a note competitor, I was excited and was definitely going to buy it, but once it was released, it was too large, had no integrated pen, and it was not wacom. I honestly do not need to use a pencil on a screen, I'd rather use a wacom pen from the device.

I have no idea how the sales of the ZU are right now, but I don't think it made any dents in the phablet market at all.

So maybe, just maybe Sony will realize the mistake and redo their ZU for the next gen?


In my country ZU sales is too hight... most of these peoples already bought it and want to sell it back.. reason ? too big for them.. not a guess... but the reason for why selling it shortly after buying... but few like it but didn't liked the lake of LED flash, they plan to buy Note2/3/Max...

Personally I liked Max more than Ultra even the design and feel of Ultra is one of its kind.. but other factors plays a major rule, the gap is too big for an already big phone. and lack of LED flash light is a killer... not to mention the small battery...

For me, Ultra will be perfect if Sony omitted the thinny profile of the phone, doing only this will allow them to squeeze the gaps around the screen, adding larger battery, LED flash, and a space for built it Wacom stylus !!

They just took the Thin feature too seriously...


Posted by Ricky D
@anybody:

Is Z Ultra 2 likely to be on the shelves before winter 2014 (my next upgrade date)?

i.e. with the supposed luke warm reaction from the market and even the fans in this forum is it likely to be cancelled?
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2014-01-12 07:31 ]


Posted by amirprog
@Xajel
most would choose note 3>1520>max/z ultra. the people who decided to release the z ultra like it is need to be fired imo. the least that they should have done is give it a lower price tag. i hope the next z ultra have better specs then the z2, not only a LED flash, if they are going to announce it in July, and if the specs are missing then give it a lower price tag.
@Ricky D
if a company don't have a new phablet to offer every year then they better close their business now.
@jonfensu
assuming D6503 is the 1H flagship, improvements over z1:
5.2" FHD LTPS IPS LCD+triluminos (maybe sony is hinting whitemagic? = "sirius" is the brightest star)
the newer s800
3GB ram
32GB as standard
same camera (i hope with better processing, low light shooting and more stabilization)
dual LED, 4K ready
3500mAh
same z1 dimensions with narrower bezel
exposed mini usb port (like the core has)
i hope gloves mode and no shatter film
4.4 kitkat
new software features
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-12 12:07 ]


Posted by -XYZ
I'd personally prefer they go down to 4.7 inch FHD, and slim down the bezels enough to make it a Moto X kind of size.
5.2 inch, I suppose is better for a device of the Z1's size, but I still think that's a little too large for a mainstream flagship.

Posted by ascariss

On 2014-01-12 04:31:01, jonfensu wrote:
Hey! Lets start the rumors

What could be the specs of D6503 and D5303 (SoC, Camera, Features etc?

And I also have a little question for insiders...
Will Sony release a D5502 phone ? I mean the Z1-C without LTE (?)


Doubtful the Z1 compact would ship without LTE, wouldn't make sense, unless a 3G model would be cheaper but I doubt it, most consumers prefer to have LTE if it is available in their area.

As for the specs for the other phones, well, compact is D5503, so D6503 could be this 5.2" device slated for MWC, so probably new qualcoom 8974-AB cpu, camera, I feel the same sensor as the Z1 and features? who knows, probably IP58 again. What worries me is once this 5.2 inch phone hits MWC, what will be left for IFA? Will sony pull a samsung and introduce their yearly flagship at the start of the year along with HTC and samsung and then a Note phablet in september to compete against the Note?

D5303 is probably some mid-range model? I would feel replacing the xperia C or SP? Unless teh Z1c is replacing the SP?

Posted by Detox
@Ricky D, zomgbbqftw also wrote this:


First S805 device to release in May/June according to Qualcomm. My money is on the GS5 and the Z Ultra successor.





Posted by ascariss
Hopefully the ZU successor will be more functional and practical. Did Zomg mention any specs of the new ZU?

Posted by -XYZ
Aside from the possibility of running the Snapdragon 805, no.

I think its fair to assume that the rest will be predictable. 6+inch FHD (Maybe WQXGA) IPS display with TriLuminos tech and X-reality Mobile. 8-13 MPx camera (May include LED flash), 3000+mAh battery, 2+GB of LPDDR3 RAM. Hopefully it comes pre-loaded with 4.4; anything less would be an absolute disgrace. IP58 water and dust-proofing.

In other words, the usual.

Posted by amirprog
@XYZ
your spec is too depressing. sony would go out of business.

my next z ultra reaslitic improvements prediction or should have spec if they want to succeed with this device (some copy paste from my 1H flagship prediction):
(JDI 5.9" FHD LTPS IPS LCD/JDI 6.2" 2K LTPS IPS LCD with narrow bezel)+triluminos+whitemagic+pixeleyes.
s805
3GB ram
32GB as standard
same camera as 1H flagship
dual LED, 4K ready
3500mAh
a bit smaller dimensions
exposed mini usb port (like the core has)
should have gloves mode and no shatter film
at least 4.4 kitkat
new software features like up to 4 different windows of ANY program open at the same time - sony is criticized for not taking advantage of the big beautiful display.
announcement: special sony event in June (as in 2013).
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-12 15:00 ]


Posted by Ricky D
Am I the only one who likes the size of the Z Ultra? I think it makes a statement.

Posted by maiaramdan

On 2014-01-12 15:30:37, Ricky D wrote:
Am I the only one who likes the size of the Z Ultra? I think it makes a statement.



I think yes Ricky D
I really love this device, and everything inside it but as the Z1 the bezel are just huge, yes I know to be handable and this stuff, but really they are huge

Posted by itsjustJOH

On 2014-01-12 15:30:37, Ricky D wrote:
Am I the only one who likes the size of the Z Ultra? I think it makes a statement.



It makes a BIG statement, though.

Posted by -XYZ
@Amir

The specs I suggested, represent a minimum. They're more than likely going to be better, but not by a whole lot.
Besides, I think the spec-wars have dwindled a little these days. Nowadays its all about Unique Selling Points. Performance has increased to a level, where we may start seeing diminishing returns.

Also, a WQXGA display, on anything smaller than 6-inches, is a waste of battery. In a world where battery technology appears to have stagnated, its a waste of time.

Posted by amirprog
@-XYZ
i understand what you are saying, but all the spec i listed exist or on the market. both display panels i listed are on japan display website, you can go there and see. the spec i listed suits 2H 2014 phablet device very nicely. not more, not less. i also listed a software feature.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-12 14:59 ]


Posted by jonfensu
@ascariss
The Z1-C is the successor of ZR (C550x) and D530x would be the successor of SP. I am somewhat interested about D530x, because in Antutu bench, it gets 30000 points. Would be nice something like this:
-4.6" IPS Display, HD resolution
-S600 (APQ8064AB)
-2GB of RAM and 16GB of Int. Memory, MicroSD Slot
-13 MPX camera and Exmor RS sensor , LED Flash
-2300mAh battery
-Android 4.3
-(No Waterproof)
-Cheaper than ZR

EDIT: I have found another score of D5303 in Antutu and It got 19500 points......

About Z1-C without LTE... I would buy it ,Look , even Z1 has a C6902 variant
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2014-01-12 15:29 ]


Posted by goldenface

On 2014-01-12 15:30:37, Ricky D wrote:
Am I the only one who likes the size of the Z Ultra? I think it makes a statement.



I had a good play with one in my local Three Store about an hour ago and I couldn't see a problem with the size of the phone at all. I was absolutely blown away with the screen quality though. I'm wondering how the screen could possibly be improved on any successor because screens can't get much better than that.

Posted by pattiobear

On 2014-01-12 15:30:37, Ricky D wrote:
Am I the only one who likes the size of the Z Ultra? I think it makes a statement.



I love the Z Ultra's size. I have huge hands, and from what I could tell from playing with it at the Sony store for a few minutes, it's quite comfortable for me.

Posted by vikeviki
Guys Xperia ZU/successor will be bigger for so many people,any news on Z2.I been waiting for years,what should I do now ,should i wait for few months or go with any other phones,please provide ur valuable IP

Posted by Wintermute

On 2014-01-12 15:30:37, Ricky D wrote:
Am I the only one who likes the size of the Z Ultra? I think it makes a statement.



Nope, I love it. I actually hope that for the successor, they keep the overall size the same and increase the screen size a hair.

Posted by vivftp

On 2014-01-12 15:30:37, Ricky D wrote:
Am I the only one who likes the size of the Z Ultra? I think it makes a statement.



I've had my Z ultra for nearly 2 months and I'm loving it. It's not 100% functional for me one handed, but I make do with it. It should be far better once I get a case.

My hope for the successor is the following:

- same camera as the 2014 flagship
- larger battery - 3500-4000 mAH. I can go 2-3 days without charging because I am a mostly light user, but whenever I do heavy usage with full brightness, the battery level does drain pretty quickly. LTE also is murder on battery life.
- better speakers... still a disappointment when I want to listen to something with friends and we can barely hear it in a fairly loud room
-wireless charging... wasn't there a rumor that Sony would be using wireless charging in 2H 2014?




Posted by motvikt
They need to make the ultra smaller in the next version. Sony made a gamble when they decided to have such a big screen but it failed and the ultra only has a niche market. Sad but true. 6 inch is what I'm hoping for

Posted by milukugiuniu
ZU's size is fine for me because I use SBH-52 to make phone calls. I suggest the people use SBH-52 who think it's too big to handle.

I didnt buy ZU untill SBH-52 was launched. IMO, it's a bit akward to hold ZU to make a phone call.

Posted by Wintermute
I'd be incredibly disappointed if the next ZU were smaller. If they made the body size a little smaller and kept the same screen size (just reducing bezels) that'd be fine (although I'd still prefer they expand the screen size and keep the body size the same), but if the screen is smaller...I don't know if I'd buy it. That huge display is just too nice to give up. And with phones getting bigger (don't know if it's still current, but the rumor was that the Galaxy S5 was going to have a 5.25" display), I don't think I'd agree that Sony's "gamble" failed. It's not like they staked their entire mobile division on this one phone. The first Note didn't sell that well either. But let's not kid ourselves--regardless of some complaints on forums, the trend is still for phones to get bigger. I don't hear anybody I know (except maybe my dad) complain about phones being too big.

Posted by Ricky D
I too like the 6.4" screen and the body size is something I could deal with and even grow to love. I just hope the next one is as slim as (or as near enough) 6.5mm.

In terms of holding a handset that size to my face for a phone call, who makes phones calls nowadays anyway? my voice call counter is at 1h2m on my 9 months old Z and half of that I used a headset with in-line mic.

My concern is that it might flex and break n my pocket when I sit. I guess I'll be putting on the table everywhere I go.

....just realised I've already convinced myself to buy Z Ultra.


Does anybody have any idea exactly how much better S805 is than S800? I'm talking about benchmark percentage increases, core architecture, GPU core architecture etc. I have a feeling the S805 is nothing groundbreaking, just a the same again but a bit faster. Certainly not like the steps between X10 and Arc or S and Z (which were at 1 year increments also).

Posted by Wintermute

On 2014-01-13 06:48:03, Ricky D wrote:
I too like the 6.4" screen and the body size is something I could deal with and even grow to love. I just hope the next one is as slim as (or as near enough) 6.5mm.

In terms of holding a handset that size to my face for a phone call, who makes phones calls nowadays anyway? my voice call counter is at 1h2m on my 9 months old Z and half of that I used a headset with in-line mic.

My concern is that it might flex and break n my pocket when I sit. I guess I'll be putting on the table everywhere I go.

....just realised I've already convinced myself to buy Z Ultra.


Does anybody have any idea exactly how much better S805 is than S800? I'm talking about benchmark percentage increases, core architecture, GPU core architecture etc. I have a feeling the S805 is nothing groundbreaking, just a the same again but a bit faster. Certainly not like the steps between X10 and Arc or S and Z (which were at 1 year increments also).



I use a headset to make calls with my ZU, and I've found that I prefer this, even compared to using a regular size phone against my ear.

About the S805, the CPU should be basically the same. Qualcomm says the CPU is more efficient and it now goes to 2.5 GHz, but that's about it. The Adreno 420 is supposed to be significantly more powerful: about 40% faster clock-for-clock, though I'm not sure if power consumption is the same or not. Peak memory bandwidth doubles, though, to 25.6 GB/s. The S805 supports more than 4 GB of RAM, and also features hardware h.265 decode, so battery life should be better when watching certain types of video. Source: http://anandtech.com/show/753[....]rface-d3d11class-graphics-more

Pretty nice SoC, although in light of the CPU performance of Apple's A7 and some of Intel's upcoming Atoms, I'm disappointed that Qualcomm hasn't done more to upgrade their CPU performance. I hope that Sony will keep their minds open and consider using the Denver version of Tegra K1 for the ZU successor. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much, but I think Nvidia may have finally nailed it with this one.
[ This Message was edited by: Wintermute on 2014-01-13 06:45 ]


Posted by amirprog
about the z ultra size, maybe i wouldn't care about its height if they packed the same camera with flash as in the z1 and bigger battery.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2014-01-13 08:31 ]



Posted by CrownedAkuma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]=player_embedded&v=h1uKVeM8ZKs
This is an Honk Knog commercial for new candies! except for the hilarious sexual theme, is that a purple xperia Z1 she is holding at the beginning?

NEW ADVERTISMENT FROM SONY

with the BE MOVED theme and union between artist and engineer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]38u0U0&feature=player_embedded
SKEPTIKS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]A8xHPM&feature=player_embedded




maaan! I love the first AD!
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2014-01-13 09:56 ]


Posted by ascariss
So does Be Moved replace the Make.Believe theme? or is that still on?

Posted by reeflotz
"We are Engineers, But we are also artists" I like that statement very much , defines Sony very well.

Posted by Gitaroo

On 2014-01-13 07:45:18, Wintermute wrote:

On 2014-01-13 06:48:03, Ricky D wrote:
I too like the 6.4" screen and the body size is something I could deal with and even grow to love. I just hope the next one is as slim as (or as near enough) 6.5mm.

In terms of holding a handset that size to my face for a phone call, who makes phones calls nowadays anyway? my voice call counter is at 1h2m on my 9 months old Z and half of that I used a headset with in-line mic.

My concern is that it might flex and break n my pocket when I sit. I guess I'll be putting on the table everywhere I go.

....just realised I've already convinced myself to buy Z Ultra.


Does anybody have any idea exactly how much better S805 is than S800? I'm talking about benchmark percentage increases, core architecture, GPU core architecture etc. I have a feeling the S805 is nothing groundbreaking, just a the same again but a bit faster. Certainly not like the steps between X10 and Arc or S and Z (which were at 1 year increments also).



I use a headset to make calls with my ZU, and I've found that I prefer this, even compared to using a regular size phone against my ear.

About the S805, the CPU should be basically the same. Qualcomm says the CPU is more efficient and it now goes to 2.5 GHz, but that's about it. The Adreno 420 is supposed to be significantly more powerful: about 40% faster clock-for-clock, though I'm not sure if power consumption is the same or not. Peak memory bandwidth doubles, though, to 25.6 GB/s. The S805 supports more than 4 GB of RAM, and also features hardware h.265 decode, so battery life should be better when watching certain types of video. Source: http://anandtech.com/show/753[....]rface-d3d11class-graphics-more

Pretty nice SoC, although in light of the CPU performance of Apple's A7 and some of Intel's upcoming Atoms, I'm disappointed that Qualcomm hasn't done more to upgrade their CPU performance. I hope that Sony will keep their minds open and consider using the Denver version of Tegra K1 for the ZU successor. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much, but I think Nvidia may have finally nailed it with this one.
[ This Message was edited by: Wintermute on 2014-01-13 06:45 ]



pretty useless even if they can clock it up to 3GHz when there is constant down clock whenever it gets hot. Problems with snapdragon for a while. Thats why mediatek look promising because they manage to solve that at least according to them anyway. I think someone told me nVidia charge too much for their tegra so its never really popular among the OEM, I guess thats why we barely see much of Tegra 4. And they never seems to be as good as nVidia has claim either.

Posted by Felimenta97
@Gitaroo

The Snapdragon processors downclock as a safety measure, not just downclock on its own. When it reaches a certain temperature (I think it is 50 or 55 Celsius), it downclock as not to cause damage to it. I know that devices that run at 1.5 GHz, go to 810 MHz. Other stock speeds, I don't know...

Posted by Gitaroo
thats the problem that exist on snapdragon more than others, the performance is not very consistence. Mediatek claim that they might not have the best benchmark score but they manage to keep the performance steady. If theres anything Qualcomm should do, this should be the first issue they look into.

Posted by MartenR
Is there any UI overhaul on the horizon?

Posted by itsjustJOH

On 2014-01-13 16:24:58, MartenR wrote:
Is there any UI overhaul on the horizon?


I'd really want a facelift, the UI although praised for being close to Vanilla is getting kinda boring to look at. Or it's the wallpaper that makes it look like so.

Anyway, MartenR is that from Questionable Content?

Posted by Xajel

On 2014-01-13 15:21:01, Gitaroo wrote:

pretty useless even if they can clock it up to 3GHz when there is constant down clock whenever it gets hot. Problems with snapdragon for a while. Thats why mediatek look promising because they manage to solve that at least according to them anyway. I think someone told me nVidia charge too much for their tegra so its never really popular among the OEM, I guess thats why we barely see much of Tegra 4. And they never seems to be as good as nVidia has claim either.


Actually, what makes Tegra 4 rare is coz of it's high power consumption While NVIDIA did something smart by having that companion core, but in most cases that core is only running while the phone is in standby... while idle the SoC will switch to the 4 A15 Cores... and while These cores can scale good from low to high depending on the task, A15 by it self even in the lowest state consume too much for a mobile SoC.. even if only one core is enabled...

ARM know this and that's why they started with the idea of LITTLE.big they designed A15 to be high-performance ( that's why it has Out-Of-Order arch. ), and this kind of performance comes with high power demand even in it's lowest state... basically A15 can't scale well in the low side of power it's not efficient at these low power, so ARM designed A7 to fill that gap in the low side...

This is the exact reason why you didn't saw any A15 quad only SoC in the wild, Dual A15, Quad LITTLE.big or Octa LITTLE.big...
And just remember Samsung first pathetic take in the OctaCore in the S4 ( i9500 ), the switching between both A15 side and A7 wasn't perfect, and early firmwares was horrible in battery life as the driver sometimes will not switch back to A7 making the chip A15 quad and eating the battery life in no time, not to mention the overheating which was another dark side of that faulty driver which Samsung shipped in retail product !!

Posted by MartenR
OT
Don't you think LG's use of girls for promoting their products is a little excessive. Numerous times I've seen people talking about the girls rather than their products in comment section.
I just feel bad when I see this kind of advertisment is actually very successful.

Posted by supercoolman
but LG make Nexus too?

Posted by Gitaroo

On 2014-01-13 16:56:16, Xajel wrote:

On 2014-01-13 15:21:01, Gitaroo wrote:

pretty useless even if they can clock it up to 3GHz when there is constant down clock whenever it gets hot. Problems with snapdragon for a while. Thats why mediatek look promising because they manage to solve that at least according to them anyway. I think someone told me nVidia charge too much for their tegra so its never really popular among the OEM, I guess thats why we barely see much of Tegra 4. And they never seems to be as good as nVidia has claim either.


Actually, what makes Tegra 4 rare is coz of it's high power consumption While NVIDIA did something smart by having that companion core, but in most cases that core is only running while the phone is in standby... while idle the SoC will switch to the 4 A15 Cores... and while These cores can scale good from low to high depending on the task, A15 by it self even in the lowest state consume too much for a mobile SoC.. even if only one core is enabled...

ARM know this and that's why they started with the idea of LITTLE.big they designed A15 to be high-performance ( that's why it has Out-Of-Order arch. ), and this kind of performance comes with high power demand even in it's lowest state... basically A15 can't scale well in the low side of power it's not efficient at these low power, so ARM designed A7 to fill that gap in the low side...

This is the exact reason why you didn't saw any A15 quad only SoC in the wild, Dual A15, Quad LITTLE.big or Octa LITTLE.big...
And just remember Samsung first pathetic take in the OctaCore in the S4 ( i9500 ), the switching between both A15 side and A7 wasn't perfect, and early firmwares was horrible in battery life as the driver sometimes will not switch back to A7 making the chip A15 quad and eating the battery life in no time, not to mention the overheating which was another dark side of that faulty driver which Samsung shipped in retail product !!



Thought nVidia said the companion core is use to handle stuffs like music and video playback, any demanding task will use the main processor. I mean Sony did the same with Vita design, all the music and video playback are done by the media engine 2.

Posted by Xajel
^^^

Yes, There's no problem with that, but the problem is with normal usage, when we use apps, SoC will scale the clock speed depending on demand... but even with very low demand from regular apps that does not require a full of A15 power the A15 won't be able to scale it... it's like running a Core i3 @1GHz and compare it to Atom @2GHz and both for just doing simple things that the Atom @2GHz is just more than enough... Core i3 @1GHz will still consume a lot of power compared to Atom @2GHz... that's why Intel didn't make Core i3 for mobile even when running at 500MHz.. they needed a different Architecture for such usage...

The companion core isn't enough for things which sits between Music/Video and other high performance things it's weaker than these needs so the SoC will switch to the A15 by that time...

If A15 was good at scaling then NVIDIA won't need a companion core at all, they can just run one of these A15 cores at lower clock like 500MHz and it will be enough... but A15 @500MHz is not as efficient as A7 @500MHz..

If NV wants something to fix it, they need a better companion core or cores actually as newdays even some simple tasks like browsing the net are multi threaded and imagine how good Android is in multi-tasking then you will know you need more than just one companion core for it...

The reason for NV to not go for multi core A7 and put just one core is because their GPU needs too much die space, and adding 4 A7 cores will make the chip very large and not economic also ( more expensive for an already expensive chip )...
it's like how AMD Fusion APU's ( even the newest one Kaveri ) isn't available yet in 8 cores because the iGPU is too big to add more general purpose cores...

basically Tegra's GPU is not small die friendly and it's not designed from ground to be a mobile GPU core, compared to Mali, Adreno or PowerVR...

To have an idea, This is Tegra K1 die shot
http://media.bestofmicro.com/J/6/416706/original/tegra-die.jpg

Here's Tegra 4 die shot
http://cdn.androidpolice.com/[....]nexusae0_Tegra-4i_die_shot.png

And here's Apple A6 ( note that these are modified ARM dual cores )
http://cdn.cultofmac.com/wp-c[....]s/2013/04/apple_a6_dieshot.jpg

And Here's Apple A7 ( Again, modified dual ARM cores, but note that additional GPU Core )
http://cdn1.appleinsider.com/13.09.27-A7_Transistor.jpg

And finaly, this is Exinos5 Octa core ( Note, while there's no mark of the GPU area, but just compare the ARM cores to other areas, GPU should be in the right or top-left side of the SoC )
http://kizumi.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/hc0rbtc.jpg

compare all these.. the CPU side to GPU side.. and see how much GPU performance you get compared to the die area...
http://kizumi.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/hc0rbtc.jpg


Posted by king-james
Better Z1 now available at T-Mobile US for only $528,- ~ €386,-

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]able_on_tmobile_-news-7551.php

Posted by karim128
@Xajel
It is still unclear why nVidia used the companion core instead of big.Little, but that is definitely not because of die size: Cortex-A15 is more than four times as big as an A7 ( http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]architecture-power-at-isscc-13 ), in other words, they can put 4 Cortex-A7 cores instead of the companion A15, and end up with a smaller chip. The reason why they chose the companion core instead may be because they just reused the Tegra 4 CPU with a newer process and using big.LITTLE would have taken more time to implement.

Posted by my ninja
https://twitter.com/SaSAndroid/status/422727647831916544

evleaks confirmed the specs leaked..

http://www.androidsas.com/201[....]ius-is-xperia-z2-reliable.html

Mostly the same of what was already known..

If we could only get HiRes Audio + 128/256GB storage and not this queer 3GB of ram (2 or 4, 3 is just weird, and stopgapish..) Id be happy... But this K1 is looking nice from the bench, im sure the denver version will be even better... Qualcomm needs to get off their bums asap, the 805 will be popular but behind the times no doubt... wb.LTE-A support is just a module away now...

@karim, not entirely.. they worked on Denver instead.
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2014-01-13 22:17 ]


Posted by Wintermute
What is High-Res audio? And my word: 256 GB storage? I know NAND is dropping in price, but it's not that cheap yet. That phone would be ludicrously expensive, plus I'm not honestly sure what I would even do with all that storage. I'd take 128, as long as it wasn't too overpriced, but to be honest, with cloud storage getting so much better and easier these days, I've kind of stopped caring that much about a lot of local storage. Thanks to Google Play Music, Drive, Netflix, etc., I've still got 56 GB free on my Z Ultra. Although I guess now that I think about it, not everybody has unlimited data, so I can sort of see your point.

Posted by jonfensu
Sony 'Sirius' is the Xperia Z2 (C770x), reliable source confirmed it

Xperia Z2, aka 'Sirius' leaked. Possible MWC debut


Well, this time you don't have to take this information as a pinch of salt because this information comes out from a very reliable source, so we should get ready for the Sony Xperia Z2 at the MWC 2014


Is it reliable?
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2014-01-13 23:53 ]


Posted by DACHA
Good news! The Z1 replacement will be the first Sony global phone. It was about time! One to rule them all

Posted by vivftp

On 2014-01-14 02:44:27, DACHA wrote:
Good news! The Z1 replacement will be the first Sony global phone. It was about time! One to rule them all


lol, I think we've been hearing about this "global phone" since the rumors of the Z were circulating. Hope it eventually comes true.

BTW, here's some info by zomg:


Now I know why the Z1s is so cheap on T-Mobile!

Xperia "Sirius"/Z2(?) is due out in late June in the US, will go head to head with GS5 on T-Mobile, VZW and Sprint. Sony and AT&T are still bitching at each other for some reason.

Spec rundown, take it with much salt for now:

5.2" 1080p/1440p IPS
4GB RAM
S805 @ 2.5GHz
32GB
MicroSD
20MP camera
~3500mAh battery

Hoping to get confirmation on these soon, and that it will be the only flagship from them for 2014.


Interesting info. He also hinted that a future phone might have a 1/2" camera sensor rather than 1/2.3" so I wonder if that will make it into Z2. 4GB of RAM is certainly nice. I do wonder if they'll have wireless charging tech in it as that was a rumored feature Sony was to use this year. Now late June is the timeframe zomg gave for Z2 at least in the USA. I wonder if that holds true for the global release too because if that is accurate, then I have to wonder if the Z2 and Z Ultra successor wil launch together.

Posted by maloqs
lol xperia Z2 at MWC is impossible...
also gsmarena always give wrong rumours
worst possible specs for Xperia z2(to prevent false hope happens ) :
-5 inch FHD 1080p display
-snapdragon 805
-2gb ram
-32gb
-improved camera with no OIS,120fps and 60fps recording, front camera still the same....
-3200mah battery
-heavier, no wireless charging
-bezels... zzz
-waterproof, still with hell a lot of flaps

If this is true....
typical biased comments happen:Disappointing...Samsung is better, Sony is stupid, No more Sony phones ...at least it is better than z1....
(a lot of negative emotion happens)
[ This Message was edited by: maloqs on 2014-01-14 03:32 ]


Posted by McKinley
The stupid bezel comment is so tiresome.
Phones by Nokia are far worse.

Posted by supercoolman

On 2014-01-14 04:48:28, McKinley wrote:
The stupid bezel comment is so tiresome.
Phones by Nokia are far worse.


some people just love humps more than bezel?

Posted by itsjustJOH
I don't feel it. I think it's still pretty early for a flagship. And if zomg is right, the only flagship for 2014.


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