Posted by Gitaroo
could still be from their old supply chain, the xperia V had a 4.3" 720p screen didnt it lol But if I remember correctly the V had good screen.
Posted by Felimenta97
Thanks for all the answers, guys
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2014-01-09 16:05:22, Gitaroo wrote:
could still be from their old supply chain, the xperia V had a 4.3" 720p screen didnt it lol But if I remember correctly the V had good screen.
Hmmm, they probably used a new supply chain for that. zomg did mention that Sony was trying to get rid of the old supply chain via the Z1, which was 400,000 panels if I remember, which I guess was a good plan.
Posted by nikola1970
On 2014-01-09 16:05:22, Gitaroo wrote:
could still be from their old supply chain, the xperia V had a 4.3" 720p screen didnt it lol But if I remember correctly the V had good screen.
Xperia V screen isn't IPS.
Posted by -XYZ
On 2014-01-09 16:27:21, nikola1970 wrote:
On 2014-01-09 16:05:22, Gitaroo wrote:
could still be from their old supply chain, the xperia V had a 4.3" 720p screen didnt it lol But if I remember correctly the V had good screen.
Xperia V screen isn't IPS.
Yep, I checked one out not to long ago. Terrible viewing angles and it was a rather washed out screen, even from head-on.
Posted by Ricky D
T'was one of the 3 screens in the lottery for the Xperia TX that was pretty amazing.
It is still the best Sony smartphone screen I've seen first hand. Beats my Xperia Z, marginally beats my Tablet Z and is better than all my experience with other Sonys.
My wife still uses my old TX. I still look on with longing in my eyes. If it had upto date internals I'd not mind going back to that arched back design. The current omnibalance design language is nice and has benefits but isn't as sleek as the arc designs.
Posted by nikola1970
On 2014-01-09 17:56:42, -XYZ wrote:
On 2014-01-09 16:27:21, nikola1970 wrote:
On 2014-01-09 16:05:22, Gitaroo wrote:
could still be from their old supply chain, the xperia V had a 4.3" 720p screen didnt it lol But if I remember correctly the V had good screen.
Xperia V screen isn't IPS.
Yep, I checked one out not to long ago. Terrible viewing angles and it was a rather washed out screen, even from head-on.
Hmm, my girlfriend has Xperia V and display is very good, contrast is great and viewing angels are far better then on my Z1! Don't know how you experienced that?
[ This Message was edited by: nikola1970 on 2014-01-09 17:50 ]
Posted by -XYZ
Display variations. All OEM's have it, but Sony's vary from 1500:1 to 500:1 contrast. Its pretty poor.
Hopefully that's changed, now with the Z1compact.
Posted by Gitaroo
On 2014-01-09 18:26:37, Ricky D wrote:
T'was one of the 3 screens in the lottery for the Xperia TX that was pretty amazing.
It is still the best Sony smartphone screen I've seen first hand. Beats my Xperia Z, marginally beats my Tablet Z and is better than all my experience with other Sonys.
My wife still uses my old TX. I still look on with longing in my eyes. If it had upto date internals I'd not mind going back to that arched back design. The current omnibalance design language is nice and has benefits but isn't as sleek as the arc designs.
arch design is definitely my favorite design from them, though it was from errison Scandinavian designers, omni balance is the first real sony designed phones. Can't wait to see the sense of quartz design for 2014.
Posted by amirprog
So since the Z1s turned out to be just a minor refresh of the Z1 and not the new half a year flagship, isn't the upcoming flagship for MWC supposed be called Z2 and have a new design, etc.? will they call it Z1 x (x=something) after naming 3 devices with "Z1" = Z1, Z1s and Z1 Compact? hard for me to believe as both the name and design get old and it's a new flagship and a new year. on the other hand, there is a sense in naming Z2 every new year (next IFA), but all this naming decisions don't make sense sometimes, so everything is possible i guess.
Posted by Away
On 2014-01-08 17:28:06, DACHA wrote:
I agree with you but as far as I have heard Sony will use a 1080p display on all the devices in H1 2014. This might change in H2 2014.
Excluding the tablet, right?
Posted by DACHA
If Sony releases the 2014 flagship before May it will not come with a 805 SoC.
Qualcomm: first device with the new Snapdragon 805 chipset to arrive in May
Posted by jonfensu
On 2014-01-09 14:18:00, itsjustJOH wrote:
^Looks like Sony has finally exhausted their old supply chain.
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2014-01-09 13:31 ]
That would confirm what milu said sometime ago
Yes, IPS will be the major screen type for Sony 2014 devices.
Posted by Away
http://m.techradar.com/news/p[....]o-launch-windows-phone-1214067
Interesting...
Exploring options while they develop their own OS I suppose. Rumoured to have a high end Firefox phone too. And Ubuntu. Sounds fun.
Posted by mobisekim
Wi-Fi Only Sony Xperia Z Ultra
http://www.gforgames.com/gadg[....]ony-xperia-ultra-tablet-39966/
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/ea[....]on_id=775959&fcc_id=PY7TS-0010
[ This Message was edited by: mobisekim on 2014-01-10 14:42 ]
Posted by Detox
The firm aims to ship more than 80 million handsets in fiscal 2015, tapping demand from emerging economies as well as the U.S. and China, according to Hirai.
http://asia.nikkei.com/Busine[....]-China-in-smartphone-offensive
Posted by vivftp
The Verge seems to think Sony is doing well to return to their glory days:
http://www.theverge.com/2014/[....]ediscovers-swagger-at-ces-2014
Can't wait to see what they have to reveal at MWC! I trust it'll stomp on what others show
Posted by itsjustJOH
Was CES sponsored by Sony this year? I see a lot of people in the videos from the trade show wearing ID passes with lanyards with SONY written on it.
Anyway, I sense a lot of phones will be announced in MWC. If Siruis won't be shown there, then I guess it's all low-end and mid-range phones, which I am more excited about since those are what I can only afford.
Posted by cu015170
On 2014-01-10 10:47:00, Away wrote:
http://m.techradar.com/news/p[....]o-launch-windows-phone-1214067
Interesting...
Exploring options while they develop their own OS I suppose. Rumoured to have a high end Firefox phone too. And Ubuntu. Sounds fun.
Makes sense.. connects directly to their Vaio line
Posted by Gitaroo
it make things more exciting with no more leaks I guess, but sucks for this topic lol
Posted by itsjustJOH
^And some even thought that the thread would explode after CES announcement, unless they meant 3 pages of explosion.
Posted by jonfensu
On 2014-01-10 20:28:35, itsjustJOH wrote:
^And some even thought that the thread would explode after CES announcement, unless they meant 3 pages of explosion.
The forum will explode with the MWC , I tihnk so
Posted by ascariss
On 2014-01-10 15:40:24, mobisekim wrote:
Wi-Fi Only Sony Xperia Z Ultra
http://www.gforgames.com/gadg[....]ony-xperia-ultra-tablet-39966/
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/ea[....]on_id=775959&fcc_id=PY7TS-0010
[ This Message was edited by: mobisekim on 2014-01-10 14:42 ]
Not sure it will sell that well, would prefer a larger 8 inch tablet.
Posted by Gitaroo
wifi only so its sold as a tablet or what? Can it make phone call?
Posted by ascariss
Yup, it will be like the wifi only tab z, no phone calls, unless you count skype.
Posted by Gitaroo
oh that is really weird, that place it in a really awkward position with the pricing because with the other specs its still very high end, better than nexus 7 so it might be 300+ USD but its can't do phone call so it can't go higher than 600 kind of pricing compare to the 650USD GPE ZU. If they price it at 400, it seems too much for a sub 7" tablet even with premium built quality and materials,not many people want to pay 400 for a small tablet since the existence of nexus 7. Even many Apple fans complains about the new retina mini. If they price is at 300 or 350 is might be more reasonable but it will make the ZU looks bad as all the specs are almost identical but cost twice as much.... Not many would be willing to pay 300-350 as long as the Nexus 7 exist either.
Posted by ascariss
If you ask me, it is dead on arrival, with cheaper tablets out there which basically do the same thing and are bigger and not an awkward size. Battery is also smaller than the LG tab 8.3 (4600 mAh) and nexus 7 (3950 mAh), with both devices sporting slightly higher res screens 1200 x 1920, minor difference though. The ZU only has a 3050 mAh batter, smaller screen sure but not sure much smaller than the Nexus 7 which has a larger battery.
Only thing the ZU has over the other 2 is the CPU, IP58, and super thin, otherwise since it is skinned, it will not receive updates as fast as the nexus 7, unless the wifi only ZU comes as a GPE edition?
Anything over 249 US, will kill this device.
Posted by alexander87
Sony can't go at a loss on it, so the price IMO won't be that low.
Afterall it is a premium device as far as build quality is concerned (materials), element proofing and powerful hardware.
Was kinda waiting on it...glad to see it's close to announcement.
Posted by cu015170
So... a Vaio branded WP device by the end of the year ? What do you think ?
Posted by Gitaroo
On 2014-01-10 22:36:55, alexander87 wrote:
Sony can't go at a loss on it, so the price IMO won't be that low.
Afterall it is a premium device as far as build quality is concerned (materials), element proofing and powerful hardware.
Was kinda waiting on it...glad to see it's close to announcement.
Yeah craftmanship is probably the selling point, screen might get a thumbs up for triluminos color, sure a 16:10 is the best screen aspect ratio for tablet but for watching video its a great deal. 300 is probably the max I would pay for, but then I look at the ZU which is basically the same thing but also a phone the 650 price tag on the ZU just looks silly. Pricing it at 300 also means a very small mark up, not sure if its even worth the time or investment, at 350 or 400, the gap would be too big from the competitors most people won't even give it a chacne. I think they might as well put all the resources on Tablet Z2 and go big. Though this could be a way to clear out their old parts supply from the ZU I guess, selling it for cheap, the ZU probably under perform for its ridiculas size.
Posted by Away
"I have a 4.3" (or above) phone, the Z ultra without the ability to make calls is it's perfect companion!" Said no one ever.
Stupid decision.
Though I have heard the battery will be bigger and it will use slightly different materials.
Posted by Gitaroo
my only problem with it is that no android media players has hardware support for 10bit MKV.
Posted by reeflotz
Not even PC's have hardware support for 10bit, only software, at least the s800 is powerful enough to handle it through software right? Although that easily drains the battery. Still it's perfect for that triluminous screen
I wish hardware manufacturers supported 10bit. I guess they're too busy making hardware for 4k. But then again 10bit isn't that much mainstream compared to the regular 8bit
[ This Message was edited by: reeflotz on 2014-01-11 06:14 ]
Posted by supercoolman
10-bit provides better compression thus smaller file size if used properly.
Posted by -XYZ
On 2014-01-11 01:22:59, Away wrote:
"I have a 4.3" (or above) phone, the Z ultra without the ability to make calls is it's perfect companion!" Said no one ever.
Stupid decision.
Isn't that just a ~7-inch tablet? What exactly is "Stupid" about that...?
Posted by ascariss
But it's not a 7 inch tablet, it's a phablet at 6.44 inches. As I posted before, it is situated in a weird place, since all the other 7 or 8 inch tablets have much larger batteries. Sony is just trying to save money on making a new 7 inch tablet and reusing the ZU.
Posted by Detox
Yep, comes with a bigger battery (no precise information yet), a soft touch plastic back and apparently it will retail for £299, €399, $399. I thought in 2014 Sony mount a tablet offensive, we'll see... I'm still hoping for a proper 7 to 8" tablet. Sony Xperia Tablet Z(1) Compact
?[ This Message was edited by: Detox on 2014-01-11 12:05 ]
Posted by ascariss
ouch, 400 bucks, or even worse, 400 euros for this? thats almost 1700zl here in poland lol.
at this price point, I feel i'd rather get an older tab z 16gb, or new nexus 7 with 3G, even the apple ipad mini with 4G is cheaper. Dell Venue 8 Pro is also cheaper and runs full windows.
Nice try sony, but no.
Posted by amirprog
@ascariss
"nice try sony, but no." can be said also on z ultra. i hope they are going in the way of the galaxy note line in terms of spec for z1 ultra - no compromise on spec, and not less important, shorten the phone dimensions a bit. i would consider buying it.
Posted by ascariss
@amirprog
I was in the same boat, when I heard sony was making a note competitor, I was excited and was definitely going to buy it, but once it was released, it was too large, had no integrated pen, and it was not wacom. I honestly do not need to use a pencil on a screen, I'd rather use a wacom pen from the device.
I have no idea how the sales of the ZU are right now, but I don't think it made any dents in the phablet market at all.
So maybe, just maybe Sony will realize the mistake and redo their ZU for the next gen?
Posted by Gitaroo
On 2014-01-11 07:09:01, reeflotz wrote:
Not even PC's have hardware support for 10bit, only software, at least the s800 is powerful enough to handle it through software right? Although that easily drains the battery. Still it's perfect for that triluminous screen
I wish hardware manufacturers supported 10bit. I guess they're too busy making hardware for 4k. But then again 10bit isn't that much mainstream compared to the regular 8bit
[ This Message was edited by: reeflotz on 2014-01-11 06:14 ]
unfortunely S800 is a tad weak for 10bit even, all the video I tested plays ok but sound constant getting cut off and then go out of sync.
Posted by -XYZ
Need a dedicated 10-bit Audio chip I would imagine.
Something from Sony's own High-resolution Audio line maybe?
Posted by jonfensu
Sony WP smartphone to come in 2014 under the Vaio brand
OT
Razec... Where are you? The OP is outdated
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2014-01-11 18:10 ]
Posted by ascariss
On 2014-01-11 19:09:05, jonfensu wrote:
Sony WP smartphone to come in 2014 under the Vaio brand
OT
Razec... Where are you? The OP is outdated
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2014-01-11 18:10 ]
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]-phone-devices-says-digitimes/
"reports that Sony will use ODM Compal Communications to launch at least one to two models "
Wonder if this will mean no IP58 certification, large sensor camera and higher end build quality. Vaio brand does make sense but not sure where will be positioned, high or mid end.
Posted by motvikt
They will probably just take one of the xperias and make a WP-phone out of it. The next WP update will bring on-sceen buttons so phone makers can reuse their designs
Posted by CrownedAkuma
Here's a video wich shows the LIFELOG APP at works on a Z1S and the LED on the Smartband
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa2Kx5HCzdA
it seems good
, maybe a bit samsungish but with Sony Style
Here's a video comparison with the LG Lifeband and his companion app
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNNeHjB84TI
It seems waaaaaaaay more uncomfortable, big and hard, not soft... surely it has a screen, but on that side Sony already has the Smartwatch2... the sony seems way better and practical for its usage!
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2014-01-11 20:27 ]
Posted by reeflotz
@Gitaroo
oh, I guess it's not yet enough then, I remember someone posted they were able to play 10 bit mkv just fine on an s800, but maybe it's a 720p one not 1080p.
On 2014-01-11 17:07:42, -XYZ wrote:
Need a dedicated 10-bit Audio chip I would imagine.
Something from Sony's own High-resolution Audio line maybe?
Need a dedicated 10-bit Audio chip I would imagine.
Something from Sony's own High-resolution Audio line maybe?
10 bit refers to the color depth of the video. Audio is not related to it. Most likely there isn't enough processing power left to keep the audio in sync, 10 bit video is very heavy to decode in software.
and.. apologies for the offtopic mods.
Posted by jonfensu
Hey! Lets start the rumors
What could be the specs of D6503 and D5303 (SoC, Camera, Features etc?
And I also have a little question for insiders...
Will Sony release a D5502 phone ? I mean the Z1-C without LTE (?)
Posted by supercoolman
On 2014-01-12 03:17:56, reeflotz wrote:
@Gitaroo
oh, I guess it's not yet enough then, I remember someone posted they were able to play 10 bit mkv just fine on an s800, but maybe it's a 720p one not 1080p.
On 2014-01-11 17:07:42, -XYZ wrote:
Need a dedicated 10-bit Audio chip I would imagine.
Something from Sony's own High-resolution Audio line maybe?
Need a dedicated 10-bit Audio chip I would imagine.
Something from Sony's own High-resolution Audio line maybe?
10 bit refers to the color depth of the video. Audio is not related to it. Most likely there isn't enough processing power left to keep the audio in sync, 10 bit video is very heavy to decode in software.
and.. apologies for the offtopic mods.
there are many encoding parameters/mode for 10-bit. player could support one thing in 10-bit, but not others. same goes for 8-bit, but most of the 8-bit issues were resolved in the past few years of development
Posted by Gitaroo
I tested another player archos or something, play perfectly for the first minute when it looks like the s800 gets too hot and started downclocking and thing gets really chopping. Sign.... maybe mediatek octo core can handle it, supposedly its performance is much more consistence. I believe theres already hardware decoding for 10bit mkv with LAV on pc.