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SONY Xperia Rumors 2013 Edition


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Posted by XperiaGaga

On 2013-07-30 17:48:00, nodarsixar wrote:
homami

1.no bionz chip????

2.front and back glass is dragontrail???

3.tft screen???

4.led flash???

5.no ip58???

6. 5 inch screen?

7. 441ppi?

8. 4k video record?

9. Video record 60p/i ?



1. maybe, about 90% yes

2. sony won't be talking about this much but probably Dragontrail on the front and Gorilla on the back, jusst like the Xperia Z

3. Triluminos of course

4. maybe plasma flash, not so much xenon flash

5. yes, ~90% yes

6. yes, 100% yes

7. why no?
8. maybe... no cause it'd take a lot of memory

9. not so sure, maybe yes, but don't really matter


Posted by sonyland
Any news about size of sensor of the camera ?
[ This Message was edited by: sonyland on 2013-07-30 17:41 ]


Posted by -XYZ

On 2013-07-30 18:40:28, sonyland wrote:
Any news about size of sensor of the camera ?
[ This Message was edited by: sonyland on 2013-07-30 17:41 ]


Probably 1/2.3. Doesn't look like it could be much bigger, unless the sensor module was the thickness of the entire phone, which isn't possible because the screen would get in the way.

Posted by sonyland

On 2013-07-30 19:48:46, -XYZ wrote:

On 2013-07-30 18:40:28, sonyland wrote:
Any news about size of sensor of the camera ?


Probably 1/2.3. Doesn't look like it could be much bigger, unless the sensor module was the thickness of the entire phone, which isn't possible because the screen would get in the way.


Thank you.....so Honami could be called Z super or Z pro
[ This Message was edited by: sonyland on 2013-07-30 19:28 ]


Posted by Ambroos
Sony accidentially included a render of the Honami in the latest Z update



Posted by bambarah
What is that jump from 8 MP to 20 MP ?

Why there is no gradient ? like 8 .. 12 .. 16 .. 20

or even 4 .. 12 .. 20

I hope it is really 20 MP sensor , not interpolated one

Posted by razec
Sony never used interpolation on their sensors since their first megapixel cameraphone S700 and rest assured, even if it's 1/2.3" the quality should be as good as HX50v given that they almost have the same sensor and similar G lens, and the lens on Honami is prime so it should hold some advantage in terms of sharpness.
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-07-31 00:02 ]


Posted by Ricky D

On 2013-07-30 17:49:13, aurelius wrote:
Honami vs S4 vs S4 Octa vs Sony Z Ultra


Benchmarks from Samsung handsets should be taken with a pinch of salt. Apparently Samsung make their handsets overclock when used in benchmarking apps to fool reviewers.

Posted by moogoo
samsung doing something dishonest?!?! neverrrrrrr

Posted by stedus
[ This Message was edited by: stedus on 2013-07-31 05:40 ]
[ This Message was edited by: hihihans on 2013-08-01 02:11 ]


Posted by bipinm
Will the new camera options in Honami be coming to Z/ZL too....via update...

Posted by huiyi
His "I1" version is too old. . The oldest version. . .

Posted by u2jewel

On 2013-07-31 08:02:55, huiyi wrote:
His "I1" version is too old. . The oldest version. . .


Is that referring to the software version, or u see something old hardware wise?
We havn't seen a post from u in a while
[ This Message was edited by: u2jewel on 2013-07-31 07:10 ]


Posted by vivftp

On 2013-07-31 08:02:55, huiyi wrote:
His "I1" version is too old. . The oldest version. . .


I promise to give you a big hug if you confirm some hardware details about Honami

Posted by stedus

On 2013-07-31 08:02:55, huiyi wrote:
His "I1" version is too old. . The oldest version. . .


Do you have any info about the "newer" prototype?
Huiyi-sama......give us more info, please
[ This Message was edited by: stedus on 2013-07-31 07:39 ]


Posted by kurtdean
So ramu told us abt the new prototype of honami

Posted by hellogoodbye
I believe in Ramu, he had most accurate info on everything. I think his info is correct and the prototype we have seen is old. Hope to see different hone on 4th of September. But already leaked phone is damn good too.

Posted by kurtdean

On 2013-07-31 11:19:12, aurelius wrote:
Has anyone NOT believed in Randomuser?

Except for the cam everything has been pretty much spot on.


He's right about the G lens, everything else about the camera we have to wait till September. 1/2.3 sensor is still a rumor and not confirmed
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2013-07-31 10:30 ]


Posted by Ambivalent_

On 2013-07-31 08:02:55, huiyi wrote:
His "I1" version is too old. . The oldest version. . .


Can you please comment on Xenon flash and 1080p @ 60fps video recording? Also, ROM?

Posted by XperiaJunkie
If Iam reading this correct all the leaked photos of the Honami are of early prototypes and may not be the final design of the Honami. However do we expect the final design to that much different from we have seen already and how old are those prototypes likely to be.

Posted by sami92a

On 2013-07-31 12:31:02, XperiaJunkie wrote:
If Iam reading this correct all the leaked photos of the Honami are of early prototypes and may not be the final design of the Honami. However do we expect the final design to that much different from we have seen already and how old are those prototypes likely to be.



IMO if thats not the final design we have seen i donĀ“t think the final design will be so much of a change from that
[ This Message was edited by: sami92a on 2013-07-31 11:57 ]


Posted by jianlin
Bionz...SteadyShot...S Master Mobile ...f2.0..please shown up in final honami..sensor size 2/3 20mp now seem unlikely for 8.x mm thin...
1080p 60fps too...dun care about 4k video..
thinner bezel like z is ok....

from zomg..
Also, I used a Z with Sony's alpha-preview 4.3 build, blazing fast and amazing battery life. Seriously, I watched 30 minutes of HD video and the battery went down just 3% points. If I do that on my ZL the battery drops about 5%. The camera also seems improved again, it loads much, much faster now, almost no delay. I was told there is still a lot to integrate but the speed is indicative of what they think the final build will get. Also, benchmarks are all up by around 10% because 4.3 brings a bunch of software optimisations, graphics benchmarks are up by almost 25%.
[ This Message was edited by: jianlin on 2013-07-31 12:52 ]


Posted by smclion102

On 2013-07-31 08:02:55, huiyi wrote:
His "I1" version is too old. . The oldest version. . .

Well thank you sir. Sony playing around

Posted by Ricky D
I wonder if the raised glass is an indication of floating touch. I seem to remember one floating touch device having a raised screen like that. Is it necessary for the tech? If so will it be this handset?

And to those who questioned it, you can clearly see the magnetic pins in this shot.

Posted by nightwing369
2 new photos of Honami:
..
..
@nightwing: check the previous pages, ppl already posted them =.=
Okay. No worries.

The device looks great but I might skip the Honami and go straight for the PS Vita + PS4
Whatever - good for you. But my post was intended for those interested in Honami.
[ This Message was edited by: nightwing369 on 2013-07-31 14:17 ]

[ This Message was edited by: hihihans on 2013-08-01 08:54 ]


Posted by stedus
@nightwing: check the previous pages, ppl already posted them =.=

The device looks great but I might skip the Honami and go straight for the PS Vita + PS4
[ This Message was edited by: stedus on 2013-07-31 14:13 ]



Posted by Wishmaster89
At least, we can see that the magnetic dock connector is still there
And for those that haven't noticed. Along with new dock for magnetic connector, sony will release charging cable with magnetic connector so that we'll be able to use it with all compatible devices(ex. honami-z ultra). Not like it was till now with docking stations(ex. xperia Z dock not compatible with ZR dock).

Posted by stedus
^This is the cable I hope they can include USB connector using that port as well


Posted by Wishmaster89
^
Charging without opening the flap is good enough for me
USB could be too much to ask for

Posted by Rubenos
Oh, there's Nightwing again... Guys, HIDE!!

Posted by DexterMoser
^



On 2013-07-31 15:26:32, stedus wrote:
^This is the cable I hope they can include USB connector using that port as well



Looks like the SE fastport cable from the old times


We should see some very nice pictures of the final Honami pretty soon.



Edit:
We should prepare for 1000th page celebration
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-07-31 14:57 ]


Posted by stedus
I think Random should come back and celebrate the 1000th page with us as well

Posted by razec
^^ He's closely watching this thread, that's for sure

If leaks would keep coming like storm then we can reach 1000th page by tomorrow I hope it would come with that lens accessory out of box

Posted by reeflotz
Yup we know he's still watching this thread and of course we appreciate all his hard work in maintaining the first page.

Posted by Shotokan81
^^
Like a lens kit ?
OT, but on topic in the end, I have been looking around for a new camera recently.
Olympus Pen e-p5 sensor is 4/3, the sensor is already 1 year old (same as OMD), but it beats many APS-C in the market when it comes to noise at high ISO, although it is smaller. Why is it relevant? Well, it is a Sony sensor. Then I was impressed to see the RX100 1" sensor perf, is very close compared to 4/3 and APS-C.

I did not check the 1/2.3 compact camera, but I am thinking Sony must have judged they can pack enough IQ and low light performance with this sensor size in Honami if this is the size they go with, and they can compete with larger sensors in other phones, either beat them in some areas or get close enough for majority of use cases.

And please Ramu come back, this is the best part!
...otherwise I will also post a pic of my battery!
[ This Message was edited by: Shotokan81 on 2013-07-31 15:39 ]


Posted by hellogoodbye
RAMU come Back! Don't leave us like orphan kids!!!

Posted by smclion102

On 2013-07-31 16:41:57, hellogoodbye wrote:
RAMU come Back! Don't leave us like orphan kids!!!

RAMU will come back chill out. Hes out chilling with his gf

Posted by razec

On 2013-07-31 16:38:52, Shotokan81 wrote:
^^
Like a lens kit ?
OT, but on topic in the end, I have been looking around for a new camera recently.
Olympus Pen e-p5 sensor is 4/3, the sensor is already 1 year old (same as OMD), but it beats many APS-C in the market when it comes to noise at high ISO, although it is smaller. Why is it relevant? Well, it is a Sony sensor. Then I was impressed to see the RX100 1" sensor perf, is very close compared to 4/3 and APS-C.




The sensor on EM5 is indeed a Sony made chip, however Olympus has some pretty advanced processing engine to boot, not to mention their professional lenses have always been top notch. but I must agree with you, Sony brought the EM5 into stardom, otherwise it'll be your typical secondrate MILC camera like the Lumix

Posted by Shotokan81

On 2013-07-31 16:48:26, razec wrote:

On 2013-07-31 16:38:52, Shotokan81 wrote:
^^
Like a lens kit ?
OT, but on topic in the end, I have been looking around for a new camera recently.
Olympus Pen e-p5 sensor is 4/3, the sensor is already 1 year old (same as OMD), but it beats many APS-C in the market when it comes to noise at high ISO, although it is smaller. Why is it relevant? Well, it is a Sony sensor. Then I was impressed to see the RX100 1" sensor perf, is very close compared to 4/3 and APS-C.




The sensor on EM5 is indeed a Sony made chip, however Olympus has some pretty advanced processing engine to boot, not to mention their professional lenses have always been top notch. but I must agree with you, Sony brought the EM5 into stardom, otherwise it'll be your typical secondrate MILC camera like the Lumix



The Lumix G6 has the advantage of being feature packed and wallet friendly...
But checking at SAR, there will be so many announcements rumored in September (possibly IFA, meaning Honami & lens will not be isolated from the imaging anouncements) with A-mount mirorless, dslr-shaped Nex and even Full frame NEX and A-mount

With the new OMD coming in September as well, it will be such a packed month for sony digital imaging division!!!
[ This Message was edited by: Shotokan81 on 2013-07-31 16:01 ]


Posted by Kitchen

On 2013-07-31 16:41:57, hellogoodbye wrote:
RAMU come Back! Don't leave us like orphan kids!!!

Hey, grow some f**king self respect.

Posted by hellogoodbye

On 2013-07-31 17:04:10, Kitchen wrote:

On 2013-07-31 16:41:57, hellogoodbye wrote:
RAMU come Back! Don't leave us like orphan kids!!!

Hey, grow some f**king self respect.


Hey, feel some humor in it lil bitch!

Posted by randomuser
I wil be back around IFA If I do get any new info, it will put up on the first page.



Posted by itsjustJOH
^Yey you back!

Posted by Shotokan81

On 2013-07-31 17:08:23, hellogoodbye wrote:

On 2013-07-31 17:04:10, Kitchen wrote:

On 2013-07-31 16:41:57, hellogoodbye wrote:
RAMU come Back! Don't leave us like orphan kids!!!

Hey, grow some f**king self respect.


Hey, feel some humor in it lil bitch!


Guys please do it in PM

Good to hear from you Ramu!

Posted by stedus
@Random: glad to see you back
you'd better be here before the 1000th page full of posts

Posted by kurtdean

On 2013-07-31 17:13:17, randomuser wrote:
I wil be back around IFA If I do get any new info, it will put up on the first page.




Welcome back dude

Posted by sonyland
glad to see you back ramu

Posted by DexterMoser

On 2013-07-31 17:13:17, randomuser wrote:
I wil be back around IFA If I do get any new info, it will put up on the first page.




Edit:
To add more to this post, I'm looking forward to IFA
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-07-31 17:00 ]


Posted by kurtdean
I hope final prototype will use 2/3 sensor ehhehe

Posted by Lunion
Sony have just uploaded this on to their Facebook page. What phone is it? If any at all.. And why is the front facing camera at the bottom right of the device?




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